A $3 Million Kickstarter got us this? Elegoo OrangeStorm Giga
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2024
- Well it was fun while it lasted but after multiple 3D Prints, odd construction choices and some unnecessary fails I've finally fallen out of love with the soon to be released Elegoo OrangeStorm Giga. While I was initially over the moon to get this behemoth of a machine, after using it more it began to show design flaws and issues.
With it being born from a $3.3 Million Kickstarter (that only wanted $100K initially) this machine boasted some promising build designs however other corners were cut and it has greatly impacted the final product. I say final product because I have no faith that Elegoo will correct ANY of the flaw myself or other early testers have found before shipping this machine out to the backers and buyers.
Enjoy this overview video while I explain all the flaws I've discovered while using the Orangestorm Giga!
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#3dprinting #3dprinter #fail - Zábava
I'm so glad for the 3D legends like yourself that keep it real about newer products. It stinks the companies don't send the test printers during the campaigns, but it makes sense because they wouldn't get as many backers with honest reviews or have to address things before the massive rollout 😅
actually a Lot of the KS DO Give out early prototypes take feedback and then sometimes make changes. Half of Uncle Jessie CZcams's are early Test Prototypes like this so they have no excuse. This Printer was sent out to CZcamsrs to test before it went out months ago, Elegoo has No excuse.
I like Frank but I wouldn’t put him in the elite category. Maker’s Muse, CNC Kitchen, Made with Layers, Teaching Tech are all S rank. I’d put Frank at B rank. Solid skills, entertaining videos, mostly basic projects and finishing these days. I’m not criticizing, I watch his videos as soon as they drop…he’s definitely earned his 1M subs but he’s still got some leveling up to do 😁
Fantastic video and fully feel the frustration with this and other machines that 100% need to be tested more before being sent out to people. That said… I do have a handful of Giga mods I’m testing out in a video tomorrow that will hopefully address a few of the issues you mentioned 🤞
:D cant wait to see this... tho yeah frank is like why do we need to mod a printer to get it to work well. I kinda agree. I have the max 4, and it was not really useful out of the box.
The mod it really needs is a chube hotend so you can actually use the massive size
@@knowkontrolmusic let’s be fair though, this is how elegoo rolls and as soon as the current model gets kinda dialled in, they release a new version with newer components and walk away from supporting the older machine. In elegoos world, the public are their beta testers. They always have been.
Sad to hear about Frank had divorce and he had and is living with his mom now
@@proaudiorestore8926 :( yeah the community tends to come to the rescue
These types of videos always get the least views but require the most knowledge/experience. Thank you, genuinely, for being a real one.
You should print small objects massive to put in that room so you look like ant man in that room 😂
Yes! I would donate filament to that cause!
@franklybuilt you should also print an AntMan suit to go with it!
Deadpool 3 Antman helmet complete with skull
@@JaXxX410 that wuld be made in ohio❣bestregards
Basically, its a glorified OG Ender 5 Plus with stationary bed:
-Expensive
-Bed leveling problem
-Bed flatness problem
-and other things
….that was. Painfully accurate
@@FranklyBuilt ...and the really sad part is, how old the E5 basically is. Not that familiar with Cruelities lineup but I'm struggling to see a major difference to replicator designs/clones from 10+ years ago. Is there something I'm missing or did they just need to come up with a design old enough to seem new to the market? ^^
(We've removed a rod, two pulleys and a closed loop belt from the design and replaced it with couplers on the Y stepper, yeah!)
This is so accurate... I love my E5+ to bits, but I love it bc I know it's an old printer that needs tinkering to work right.
But man doing all that work on a $2500 printer... nah that's not the way to go
I agree.
When the printer works as expected, and you want to upgrade. That's fine. (And fun).
But if you spend 2.5k and you are expected to upgrade just to make it work as expected, that's a problem.
Upgrades should be fun, not mandatory.
They really should have caught that in testing
just like my 9 yo printer, it worked as expected out of the box from a Chinese factory. granted it was just a box of parts but i expected crap and got crap.
i had to print a broken fan shroud. I been upgrading it here and there to keep up with new hardware. its still kicking. its even running on klipper which wasn't a thing 9 years ago.
If i bought a $14k mark forge onyx and got crap i would be furious. those printers are built well and print like you expect every time. i think the print settings are controlled by the company so end users cant mess it up and complain.
Can we acknowledge how well spoken frank is, trying 3d printing content myself, you sure make it look easy 😂. Great video Frank
Can I make it worse by saying this was all shot and filmed on an afternoon? I was busy and didn’t have time to script lol 😂
@@FranklyBuilt MAN 😭😭
It's so impressive that someone running such a small and brand new channel can talk in front of a camera
13:26 Franks arms are JACKED lol
Can't decide whether this video is more about 3D printing or muscle flexing ... the posing is unreal 😂
Looks like a synthol advertisement. My projection I just got 14 pounds off out of overweight
"I'm not standing on the print bed, I'm standing on the edge. Get out of my DMs". Frank has the best quotes.
Dog is in the video 10/10
Love the hollow knight grub
cargo shorts ….
ohio dog himselph at that.. mrs tusjak the program teacher stole my dog and is kis
You just described how I feel about my Neptune 4 Max, I pre-ordered that sucker the minute it went live I was so excited for a large format printer with klipper. I want to love that thing so much but it's been 1 step forward and 2 steps back with no cameo from MC Skat kat. Every time I feel like I'm ready to run with that thing it kicks me in the balls again. I've since added a K1 and a P1S to my garden and it makes me mad at Elegoo because those 2 machines just work. I know the K1 had it's problems at launch but they cleared up relatively quick, the N4 Max seems like it's inventing new problems weekly. It has taught me the valuable lesson to never be an early adopter with a 3D printer. I feel bad for everyone pre-ordering that new AnyCubic color printer, trust me just wait a couple months folks, the industry at large has proven they don't invest in proper testing.
there were already reviews and leaks about the Kobra 3 multicolor having problems and there still no reviewers publishing full testing content about it
Thank you for your candor!👏🏼👏🏼 💯 I was going to get this but id rather just wait for a newer version.
Chinese printer companies rush products to market as a general rule to combat rampant industrial espionage. If you wait long enough to refine your product, your competitor will beat you to market. Being first is more important to them than anything else. This is where Bamboo Labs is a bigger disruptor than the credit they get for it. Delivering a pretty refined consumer product is way different than the “kit printer” mentality of so many of the incumbents. Also, 3D printer communities have become unbelievably toxic places in general.
Nah bambu lab is what made 3d printer space so toxic. Attracted so many shitheads that think they are superior for not knowing how 3d printer works.
Glad to see you still going!
Frank, THANK YOU for that major heads-up.
Love your giga videos, it's how I found your channel. Would love to see more to see if you can get this printer working well.
Existing or established companies should be banned from Kickstarter, regardless of industry.
Then it will be 95% scam
It's already 95% scams
@@ellingtonlinford8663 guess you are right, last time I checked has been half a decade ago.
Absolutely. Modern companies would rather take the profit their company makes with no risk, they're putting the risk of product failures on their customers and that's not acceptable.
@@Kx0195 But at least they put their brand at risk, when they act badly on kickstarter and won't scam you completely like many others there.
good video no b.s. thanks. that nozzle blowout is gnarly. I feel like a genius for buying my a1 mini for 250 after looking at all these large format issues
Tech companies (Chinese ones especially) are famous for using early buyers as "beta testers who pay". They then iterate thier designs but not "officially" so the models don't have version numbers.
thanks for posting another great vid frank
I'm loving the new attitude that tools should already work and not need to be modified in order to work properly. Hey, if you're the type who like to build printers... go build printers and be happy with the hobby how you want to participate in it.
Couldn’t agree more. Just because we can mod it doesn’t mean we should need to. Sounds like a load of issues that @Elegoo should have resolved before it left the warehouse.
At least you have it. I ordered it and hopefully get it soon.
Don’t hold your breathe lol
Expect it two to three months later than you expected it.
Elegoo shipped the “Early Bird” round of printers (the April group) on the last day of April and said to expect 45-60 days for them to arrive in the local warehouses which would ship them to the backers.
I’m in the “May” group and I’m guessing I won’t see mine till the end of July.
Elagoo lost any credibility for me when they Kickstarted this. So happy I got a bambu instead. Now all bambu need to do is give us a P1P XL and life will be even better 😂
Excellent review. I wasn’t a backer, because I didn’t really want to be a beta tester. There is value in both being and not being a beta tester. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just engineer one large heated bed.
Probably because of heat bleed when using one bed for a smaller job. I'd bet most users won't be print SO big as to need all 4 beds at once, for the majority of jobs. If you're only heating bed 1 but have a steel plate extending to the other 3 cold beds its going to bleed heat out the adjoining side like mad and you'll loose adhesion on those edges.
@@clintstlaurent4263never thought about that but it is true, even though I think the real reasons were costs and time to deliver
Thanks for the info and I do hope Elegoo will fix it
A this point Kickstarter is basically a market research. Producers know whatever the device has a chance on the market before actually spending lots of money on the development. It will get worse for sure :)
Ivan Miranda made a huge scale 3D printer and his worked great. It had a sheet of aluminium as the base plate and used four silicone heating mats attached underneath for base plate heating.
3:20 And this is why they do these Kickstarters. No better testers than the public.
Thanks for the honest review. I've noticed that most of the early testers are no longer posting videos of their challenges. It would have been nice if the testers could have gotten their machines before the kickstarter began. I was hesitant to pull the trigger, but I did and now I wish I had skipped this. If there was a way to cancel and get my money back I'd probably do it.
I did and feel the exact same way, I’m actually going to start trying to find a way to get a refund
If you find a way, please share how you do it. I've been looking for a way also.
Talk to elegoo I saw them working on refund with some backers
I've sent a message to Elegoo. Let's see what happens. I'm glad Frank pointed out the fact that all four beads heat up even when only one is needed. If Prusa can do it why can't Elegoo? @@filipefarias3076
I personally would’ve liked a printer like that to be the size of one of those print plates but the height of the giga storm, just to print one of those giant retractable swords. Or make a printer half the size and call it a Half Giga. Would be much easier to get out of room and you wouldn’t have to to take it apart to get it through the door
I was really interested in this printer, almost backed it, but I live in an apartment so I figured it would eat up too much space. Holy crap.. bullet dodged. Thanks for this video
I love how the spool of filament looks so tiny on the top of the printer.
I wonder if an enclosure would help with some issues. If so, those’ll be some big panels! Plus, you can place the spool holder on top of the top panel.
Thank you for the review on it. I wanted to get one, but I wasn't too sure about it because it was new to the scene. im glad I waited. Thank you for the honesty on it.
Great video Frank. I saw a video recently someone did where they were talking to the Elgoo developer and they plan on making an entire Storm line and they do have plans to make a smaller model of the Giga. I'm guessing one about half the size. It would make more sense to me anyway. Anyway I expected more from Elgoo. They had been doing so good as a manufacturer and then they make this huge failure. Let's hope they fix the Giga and make better models in the Storm line that they may have planned.
Too late. Mine arrives next month. Now we need to pray the community can fix all this...
I love the willingness of the community to create their own solutions to things but you are 100% right, we shouldn't have to fix obvious problems in expensive machines. We're not back in the day with new homemade printers. These are new, commodity, printers working with established technology. They should just work out of the box, end of story.
"We are testing this printer."
As soon as I saw this kick-started with the discounted rate, I knew this was a test to see what they could do with large scale.
They're a big enough company to take a risk like that without a Kickstarter. It was guinea pig testing paid by the consumer...
True
Hey I only just found out you were in the air force, thank you for your service
I dont think the feed to the extruder would be to bigger thing to get right Sure the consumer shouldn't have to do this but the build volume is amazing wow wow wow
Make a Baymax xD
But yeah, the two things that griped me was the number of plates and they maybe could had a bar going on the top in the center to hold the rolls?
That's huge!!!
BIG PRINTERS .. I built a 400x400x400mm printer .. one quickly realizes that Big Parts cost 10X more in material than they are worth. I rarely use this printer.
×2 playback speed is sweet for tight time. Good looking Deutsch Sheppard
The heat saturation issue and bed leveling is a known thing across their line at least the neptune 4 and beyond. You gotta heat soak that bed for everything you want to do. Get that down and makes it easier.
Bought to be a fire vid!
The only printer brands that have worked well and keep working well over the 7 years ive been 3d printing is Prusa and Bambu lab. Owned over 11 different printers at this point all were just awful besides my MK2s and my bambu x1c. The prusa has had some minor issues since its very old at this point but nothing bad and the X1c has been near flawless besides a weird AMS issue that was fixed by unplugging the AMS power and plugging it back in and a nozzle clog.
They seem to be going down the same path as Creality, put something out and then have the community design the fixes. This is why I gave up on Creality, the Prusa XL had a lot of the same problems, but Prusa fixed most of them - lots where done in software.
I think everyone has some form of that blanket in the window. a grey plush blanket, probably from Walmart. hahaha. Love you videos as always Frank!
Great review Frank, as always. An established company should NOT be allowed to use kickstarter, that is an abuse of the platform for sure. Can you imagine if Maytag did that with their next gen washing machine? I was very intrigued by this printer when I first heard about it, but so glad I passed. I will never do another pre-order or kickstarter again for a printer. It is too frustrating to be a beta tester for all the engineering fails and litany of bad decisions. These companies know we are starved for machines that just work, but they keep giving us unfinished products with inherent design flaws. We as consumers need to ditch the fan boy attitudes and be smarter with our hard-earned dollars. Stop supporting kickstarters by established companies is step one.
Love the video frank
I agree with you.
But, I’m happy paying a bit for a base kit printer.
I’ve built a couple large printers. Many people have.
I backed this just so I can make it better. It’s fun it my hobby. I back a lot of projects and it’s a waste of money in a way. But there is always new ideas in the products that I didn’t consider before. So it doesn’t feel wasteful. It’s just fun.
I could be eating $300 dinners every night and cramping out that money with nothing but a belt collection to show for it.
I’m happy being a backer. I’ve never regretted any project in the many years I’ve been doing this. I don’t regret this one and never will.
There is an interesting reason the Chinese are on kickstarter more and more. Talk to them and make a friend. You’ll find it highly interesting and very widespread.
A single print plate would be nice. I agree that the USB/screen plugs needs moved as well as the spool mount and sensor
finally, an honest review of elegoo
The bed not being a one piece sheet ... I kind of like this. Now that bigger printers become more common, large sheets are affordable - still not cheap though. A special extra large sheet for this printer would be extremely expensive and it sucks to replace that large of a sheet if you crashed the nozzle in one corner.
But when I saw the first announcement of this printer it already was clear to me there are a lot of things that need to be improved. The inductive bed sensor is an issue that is know for years, not having a proper filament guide or spool mount (are there still printers being sold with the spool holder at the rear ???) .
Hey Frank,
i had a question for you. if you dont mind would you be able to make a katana for Inosuke? It's been a long time since your last swords for demon slayer characters.I really enjoyed those.
I'm working on my first prop and struggling to find the correct files to print Inosuke's katana. I also don't know how to craft a sheath and am trying to figure that out by watching CZcams tutorials. I was hoping you could make one since your tutorials are some of the best out there. Keep up the fantastic work!
Excellent looking printer except for all the little quirks that should have been resolved. The control panel should have been wireless in my opinion. Thanks for the great review. Keep it coming.
Thanks for your feedback :) i have the printer as well and I may have been luckier than others. I got one head crash after replacing my filament and the latest firmware seems to have fixed the problem. Since then, I printed a huge mascot (visible in the fb group), the head was 12 kg of filament and it took a week to print. Then if it works, it works.
I also agree with you with the cable management and other little things, or just the power switch being in the back. My powerful ups doesn't support the bed/nozzle heat up and goes in error. But at the end, it's a printer I really like. But it's not the typical printer and probably not for beginners.
For me, its real downside is the flow which is limited to around 30mm3/s... with the 1mm nozzle, you have to print quite slowly.... i hope for some upgrade to have a higher flow to take benefit of the speed it could provide.
we need a 10kg roll for that one
The only print bed suitable would be one giant one and using load cell bed levelling. No manual adjusting. They could offer smaller plates, but designed for smaller pieces that won't span across multiple plates. The filament mounting should be at the front top and use a reverse bowden for guiding.
Hey! I have the Ender-3 V3, and I feed the spool in from the bottom. I see that you fed it from the top, possibly adjust the runout sensor and feed the filament from the bottom!
It doesn’t work. The sensor is wearing out
They’re still fulfilling kickstarter backers orders till Aug, so it’s going to be quite some time before anyone will be able to buy one.
I’m hoping with the additional time and the higher cost, the printer will be a better product.
I backed the Jupiter and they did the same thing. We payed to test it and then all the promises they made they told us tough luck. It was not modular and all the upgrades that were promised were ignored. They released the Jupiter SE and now ignore all the backer. Good times
I would use a bluetti as a UPS just need to buy the one that can handle the total wattage needed.
I chose the august delivery pledge with the hope that the dumbest of issues will have been resolved by then. fingers crossed.
I agree with you about the CF/KS. Established companies shouldn't do CF-ing but there is no stopping them. It has become a nu-store, where all the risk is on us and large companies don't even have to actually deliver a quality product, and many don't. Some large companies run 3-5 CF a year.
The board game industry is even worse than tech there.
I think the free R&D is the biggest point which you pointed out. For the company its free, the community has to pay the price here. And that is sad..
I have an electronics background to some degree and was excited about the giga. However seeing the same things bothered me too. The biggest red flag for me was the 4 build plates thrown together. I knew that would cause problems. I understand making a full sized single plate would be costly but if you want this size of a printer, you would want and pay for that. Its like when it came time to discuss the build plate they ran out of time and money and just said "Just put 4 plates together..." Not good. The amount of difference in the print you showed was straight up ugly. That in itself would be the one thing that would stop me from buying this. Then again I never buy the first run of anything - I always wait till its been used and reviewed so thanks for the review and your thoughts.
Very accurate points and definitely correct it should be caught in internal testing not using customers as unpaid testers.
Great review but the highlight was the announcement of your life-size Danny DeVito 😂
elegoo's FDM track record is spotty at best
Honestly instead of going straight into reviews i can understand having a 3rd party testing and a kind of review on my mark kind of thing
Honestly for a printer pf that size you should start making car body kit or molds for car body kit! If you can build an enclosure that can heat up to use ABS or ASA dude go for it! I wish there was a 3D printer specially made for body kit!
boy they are slaughtering you on the facebook. I appreciate that you are not just being a fan boy. Now I'm worried for when it arrives.
It’s just that one guy who can’t wrap his head around the points im making. Unless you mean another group?
@@FranklyBuilt yeah the one you posted this vid in :/ i guess all points of view are invalid on the internet
I have regrets, and I have yet to get my printer!
You should make a Kickstarter to get a curtain.
I appreciate the critique but I really don't see any deal breakers. Things like updating the firmware, leveling, and changing the spool angle are super easy.
Since I haven't seen anyone mention this in the comments yet. Elegoo has listed it on their website, with the price now set at 9,999 USD. Now they indicate this price is not final, but I think it is fair to say that it will be somewhere near that price (why else would they publically list it at that otherwise). As well elegoo themselves mentioned that production was a mess on this machine and they seem to have lost money on the kickstarter units. It really seems like their design team built something and put it into production without really knowing the issues with scaling up a printer to these sizes.
The $9999 pricing is something lots of Chinese websites do when they have products listed that aren't yet for sale. Don't read anything into it.
atleast you can do print in place stuff. ive had my pulse xe for 7 years now and still havnt had a successful print in place go right 100%. also it would take about 6 hours to print that vase on my printer at 1/10 the size. AND I PAID $1500. i know things in the 3d printer space have gotten a bit cheaper but from your results id be happy and its way bigger so yeah not a bad deal for what you paid imo. now it could just be my skill level with my issues with my printer, but ive sent it back for them to "fix" did everything i could possibly do to get good prints but noting seems to ever work. i never should have gone with a clone, but i cant bring myself to get a new printer because the tech is still not there imo. i want it to just work, I'm not gona spend thousands on something i have to tinker and do R&D with every single time, they should be paying all of us for that not the other way around. hoping the mimaki tech becomes more common place and cheaper in the coming years, thats what i envisioned when i first heard of 3d printing but starting at $50k nope. maybe if i was actually good and could produce and make money but i suck lol.
I am an elegoo fan, have used their resin printers (mars 2/saturn 2) and Neptune 3 max and even have a phecda but they do always seem to make the wrong cost saving decisions. Things like what you are now pointing out show exactly the issues. Maybe the testers failed to point out these things though.
Next try. Please an Ironman Video:(
As Neptune’s first core xy printer I think they should’ve made something more manageable first. Something the size of the 3 pro or max would’ve been perfect and then make this giant thing. A smaller printer would make them competitive with the other companies.
Damn was gonna get this to make large light box logos, guess Inwont be now with plate level issues between plates
Seems like a single piece glass bed would be fire
They will make changes, the testing is you.
A lot of companies do the same thing, early adopters are the testers. That's one of the reasons you got it cheaper then others.
Why didn't they include a perfectly flat sheet thats the size of all four beds, with the set screw holes? You remove plates, place the large plate on, use set screws to flatten each bed to the plate, remove plate, and attach beds. I thought of that in like 20 seconds when watching this video. Kinda weird that Elegoo didn't.
Elegoo, are you all hiring?
You need a Produkt to sell before considering buying it. Big and many issues but a good platform.
I like how you delved into this with great detail. Since you are comparing you probably just could have said. Do you think this is what Bambu labs would have done? Because if they do a giant printer it probably will not be like this. I think it will be very hard to make a Huge machine that gets adopted by a lot of people. Unless it makes a Large print twice as fast as a Prusa makes a small print there is no point for MOST people in getting one. Heck, I saw a tuber, his first printer is an x1c and he says the only thing he does not like about it, IT IS TOO SLOW.... this is the future! What do you think?
This thing is a magnification of everything that was wrong with the Max.
Hiya Frank love your vids
You can build car body panels with this thing! I could make a front splitter in one go!
I backed the giga and this video is honestly giving me anxiety, but appreciate the honest feedback on your part
What slicer do you use for the elegoo neptune 4 pro?
Great comments. I actually predicted this when I saw it on Kickstarter. You cannot scale up, without redesign. I am yet to see a large printer made correctly!
Bambulabs had confirmed a large printer in the works. However instead of scaling up they opted for improved performance by adding something new to it. It might be that redesign of the system for scale up, like you state, is also what they are doing. Can't wait when it's ready btw.. But I think it won't be cheap unfortunately.
Still waiting for voron phoenix... Looks like the only large printer that works out of the box is rat rig 500.
Still waiting for voron phoenix... Looks like the only large printer that works out of the box is rat rig 500.
Scedadle sceduche Scalalalalakuhaggaa 5:26
I’m glad I left that. And I’m so glad you spelled it out for me hahaha
Maybe there's some improvements that can be made in the coming weeks that will improve performance :)
Its crazy how its been 2 years since Bambulab dropped and these companies still dont get that Bambulabs biggest innovation (even over the software defined stepper drivers, or AMS or poop chute) is goos UX.
All of these companies rush so much to technically on paper have a decent printer but then the reality is that the user experience is awful and shows no one used the printer and revised before releasing.
What color filament do you use the most and what type of filament
Grey sunlu