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- Small compact portable Gas Heater. Not to be used indoors or in a tent. Where can you use it ? I have no idea. I have owned this heater for years and not used it.
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It's a gas cannister not bottle & a valve not regulator. Useless video review you don't talk about how long it lasts you have very little knowledge of it & actually say you don't see the point in them 🤷
I Don't know how long they last but I agree with you I am not an expert and don't know the difference. However if it didn't leak gas in an unsafe way when in off position the gas bottle canister , aerosol can would probably last a lot longer. Please feel free to leave lots of comments. Cheers from old George. Ps pinned your comment so everyone can read it.
In the UK bottle and regulator are the accepted terms.
@@upturnedkangaroo no they are two different items I am in the UK & have many years experience using both 👍
take 5 minutes out Ade jeez!
Bought one of these for around £23 for my spare bedroom 8ft x 6ft which I use as an office. I ran it on full for 1 hour the starting temperature was 8.7c, then turned it down to a third power for another 3 hours. The office reached 17.4c. I had the window closed and the blind drawn to keep the heat in. I had a CO2 detector in the room and it did not go off so using one of these with butane in a closed environment is safe. The handle did not get hot or even warn, and the lower part of the fire, where the gas cylinder goes, did not get warm either so I would say they are safe to use on carpet as I did. During 4 hours I used 60% of one gas canister which totals around £0.70p. I am really pleased with the functionality & ease of use, sturdiness, heat output and cost. Also I found the fire to be well built so if you look after it it should last a long time. Hope this helps.
Butane is very safe indoors. Chefs and Caterers use butane hot plates all the time for offsite affairs. The directions state to turn it to ignition after removing cannister to release the propane that was in the tubes when you turned it off. Always remove cannister after use. It has a safety feature that shuts it off in case of a leak. Always have a carbon monoxide detector nearby as with anything thing that burns, even your kitchen gas range. Always provide a little ventilation. Unlike propane, butane doesn't aggravate respiratory problems. I bought mine for emergency use if the power goes out because my gas furnace has an electric blower. If you take refuge in a small room during a power failure in freezing weather, it can be a life saver. The cautions they list is to prevent lawsuits. I would not run while sleeping.
Thanks for your comments. The heater in this video has no safety devices at all. The labelling states for outdoor use only. There may be safer more modern units available but this one doesnt meet any UK safety standards. So it went into the bin. Cheers from old George
Hi Diane. Forgot to mention. There are 3 different gas canisters fit these units.. Propane, Butane and a Propane and Butane mix for cold weather. When you turn on the gas and forget to light it the gas will still keep coming out as no safety button. Also no gas cut off if flame goes out. No tilt, knock over cut out. This heater In video does not have a tilting head for cooking on where as modern heaters are sold with this function. I have copied your comment to the Gas Safety Board and hopefully they will respond to you directly. Cheers from old George
I've got one had it for a few years now, use it to heat bathroom up while I shower, the can lasts about 6ish hours, and yes it does pump out a lot of heat, now I've been reading the comments on here and I think that the ones people are having problems with must have been faulty, like I said I use mine indoors every winter.
thanks mate couldn't figure it out and was afraid of the explosion
Thank you for this, just got mine out of the shed and couldn’t remember how to light it
My mother is obsessed with the coming Ice age & is buying all the family heating appliances with dozens of gas bottles each, we all just smile, nod & thank her, you never know!.
Hi Mark. I have a cupboard with around 15 small gas cartridges (canisters) of different fittings. Used them camping (bushcraft) and woodland Volunteer meetings etc. I can refill them as well. So never throw them away. I think it's an age thing. Candles, torches lanterns and ways of lighting fires, 2 x petrol Generators is also in my collection. I come from a family background of not having a lot of money so everything was fixed and nuffin much thrown away. If I am offered stuff free I always accept it and regret it later. Cheers from us old uns George and Jane.
I got one of these for emergencies.
They fulfil that function well, and its worth noting that there is HUGE variability in the quality of the different brands. Mine came with a tiny area where the ceramic didnt seem to be burning properly so I automatically worry about carbon monoxide.
I think they are great emergency heaters for draughty or well ventilated areas.
I think they ARE generally a carbon monoxide risk
I dont think you should ever leave them unattended or sleep with one running
But for the price point, if you are careful, and you need something for the shed or for power cuts, It fills the spot for a very cheap price.
This being said, there are some smaller, simpler, and slightly more expensive options that I would actually trust more.
The Mr Campy stove variants come with a built in heater, and there are some lixada heater stoves that are great.
It is what it is really. This is super cheap and actually quite efficient, but that comes at the cost of safety and reliability..
Thanks for the review.
I was looking at this stove and found your video. This stove now sells for 3-5x as much, comes with a grill for cooking on it when in the horizontal position, uses butane bottles or propane with a hose, and the marketing says it can be used in a well ventilated area but people say the manual still says not to use it indoors. Funny how stuff stays the same and changes at the same time.
I think they have to say to not use indoors to cover themselves from people using one in a small space without ventilation. Most houses will have vents in the rooms nowadays.. But I would only use it with a carbon monoxide monitor in the room as a precaution.
I know the value of a CBM because it woke me up once when I fell asleep on a couch in a room with a fire lit in the fireplace..
I smelled nothing when I woke and felt fine so they obviously go off well in advance of the danger levels. It was an old house and had no vent in the room..
I TG for that alarm every time I hear on the news of people found dead in their sleep from carbon monoxide.. That probably would have been me one of them that night but for that CBM alarm going off..
Very handy for winter hunting stand or fishing 👌🏻👍🏻
Just dont let gas can to froze 😉
Liquid gas will pour into system and all hell breaks loose 😄
Yes I've got one of these for the campervan ... and I thought how usless it is lol
Great demo. The new versions these days are easier to use AND you can cook on them! A bonus for campers.
Never an open flame indoors, cars, RV's or tents. But here we are, still alive. Just be smart and have some fresh air venting and it will be fine.
I have two of these heaters. I stopped using it and the spare one because it sets off the carbon monoxide sensor. They are dangerous to use in a house.
It's only dangerous if you are a moron.
@@jamesh1597531 Get a CO sensor and repeat it again only if you can run that inside without setting the sensor off. It says "do not use inside", on it, for a reason.
Rubbish to these cannisters use butane the same as a calor gss bottles. They are all safe to use inisde with the correct ventilation
@@adeharris4457 Get a CO detector and it will tell you otherwise after 5 minutes of use. I tend to go with that!!
They smell real bad
Ok the ring pull bypasses the jet to flood the burner with gas so it lights easier! stupid design really but it works.
On my unit the ring slid a metal plate across the back airflow to the burner. And not designed for tilting upright. However my suggestion is can you do a link to your video showing the operation. And I will link it in my description. My unit was a very early one. Cheers from old George
Hi there I have a question please. I bought this portable heater and
after two days it stop working. I slightly tilt one side and the gas is
not coming from the heater now. It has a safety feature I think. Does
anyone know to fix this problem ?
I am sorry I am unable to help. But I have been told that the newer models have tilt safety device. Normally it's a metal ball which rolls and blocks the gas. If it is. It would normally reset when gas canister is removed and gentle shaking of the heater. But mine was an older version. So I dont know. Hope you sort it out. Cheers from old George
The reason they tell you not to use the heater indoors, is because the makers dont want to be sued if some numpty leaves it running when they go to bed and end up poisoning themselves. I use mine indoors every winter to warm up the bedroom/bathroom....have never experienced any issues
As far as ventilation is concerned, open a window wide enough to get smoke out of the space maybe use something like a sheer net curtain to block out winds but allow passage of air and for your own safety use carbon monoxide alarms
Possible turn this heater horizontally and use for cooking food and heating water?
This heater only tilts. The latest version does. It's gone for scrap. Horrid and dangerous.
Nice video bud , will you be doing any more walking videos enjoy those too 🙂👍
Drop me an Email if you want to the email address as on the end of my videos and I will respond with more details etc.. Cheers from George
Yes plenty of walks. Maybe start weds. Cheers from George
One of these burnt a van out , I’m was given one . I can see why now .
Lol the point of the them is to provide heat. 🔥
If the leaking gas doesn't get ya🤣
How long does the gas last? I think this is class need it for when I want to sit outside I'll buy it off you
Sorry I dont know how long the gas lasts. The gas cartridges come in several grams of gas content. Depends how much they cost and where you buy them from. Look on ebay there is plenty of these heaters for sale. They may have gas consumption in advert listing. Cheers from old George
It uses 10g per 10 mins on minimum heat (which is really hot and enouh for example hunting stand).
1 can - 227g lasts approx 3.5 hours on minimum heat.
Just be cautious. If outside is under minus 0 degrees celsius, can sweats when discharging and can be frozed inside (part in can where liquid gas spreads to vapor gas) and you will have real panic as I do.
I was on hunting stand -3 celsius otuside, pitch black night. Heater was ON and on minimum. Forzed after 15mins and liquid gas poured in.
All hell breaks loose!
Burned my hands, wooden stand (cabin), my backpack, chair...panic!
Broke that door and throw everything on the ground in flame from the cabin!
It produces nice heat, bought it because it is very quiet but only keep it near exit or place where you can throw it if liquid pours in.
My practice from that situation is that I use it for approx 10-15 mins low power than turn off and like that 2 - 3 times, than I pull can out, wipe moisture off, slightly warm with both hands and heat with warm breath that nozzle part.
With that "recipe" I have no further issues anymore.
It is the quietest and low scent heater for that money on the market.
What about calor gas heaters.?
No idea. I am only reading what's printed on it and advised by camping clubs regarding use in tents....Also on box and operating instructions is says not for indoor use. If you know the answer then please let me know and I will do another video with an update. Many thanks from old George. 👍🤔
No different to when you cook with gas in the kitchen there fine to use, just open the window a little
The difference is if the gas blows out on a home gas cooker it turns gas off. No safety cut outs on these units. Theres no safety at all. Gas heaters for the home indoor use have carbon monoxide sensors in them as well oxygen sensors. Tilt sensors and others. Well the latest approved ones in the UK do. I am not an expert so my advice is do your own research it's better than my comments. 🤠👍🇬🇧
@@MakeDoAndMend1 the older gas cookers don't have the safety cut out your talking about, and don't forget them old back boilers with a gas fire at the front..... well we all survived them 🤣 like I said open a window or 2 and it will be fine, there's more toxic air in London 🤣🤣
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I would also add that you power the heater with small 220 gram gas containers. Even in small rooms you will not do harm to yourself even if the gas leaked, I speak from experience. Also long before emptying the gas canister, you will smell unburned gas. So yeah, small ventilation and you will be pretty good. I just purchased a gas heater like that, only difference it has a grill for cooking and rotating heater part. Till now I used a portable gas cooking stove (Alpen camping) and I am very pleased with it. Just don't leave things like that unsupervised for long and everything will be fine.
Hi Matty James. Personally I would not advise you to post this reply due to liability if someone is harmed as manufacturers guidelines printed on heater states not for indoor use. Thanks for watching. Cheers from old George
People are saying "always provide a little ventilation", but what does that mean in real terms?
I have a wee camping stove that runs off of one of these small gas cylinders...bought it after all the prolonged snow we had in 2010. I always remember feeling gutted that you had to be in a "ventilated area", or outside. Does that mean a window cracked open 1" or a window open 6"???
I even rang the fire safety organisation, and they couldn't tell me!
I just can't seem to find a way of having any emergency heating, should there be a long power outage. I had a 30 min one during Storm Arwin last week, but there are folks not that far from me, that have been without power for 8 days now! I'm disabled with chronic illneesses/pain, and have no family to help, so it does worry me, particularly as I feel the cold VERY badly.
Any advice would be welcome.
Like many other people I cannot give advice regarding this issue. Back in time before. Double Glazing, Loft Insulation, Cavity Wall insulation, Central Heating etc. Houses were well ventilated due to drafts from badly fitted doors and windows. Even air bricks in the walls. People simply was used to wearing thick clothes and only having a bath once a week. Ventilation is a self inflicted modern problem. We also have higher safety standards regard fumes, gas and wellbeing. Both Jane and I when young had outside toilets. I fully understand your situation but finding a solution is not simple. For health and safety reason. I dont think you will get a definitive answer due to liability issues. Best wishes from old George
@@MakeDoAndMend1 Hi George..thanks for your reply. I'm 57, we also had an outside toilet, and no bathroom, when I was kid. Having a bath was in a tin bath, in front of the fire, that mum filled up with buckets of hot water from the copper, in the kitchen. Ventilation, as you so rightly say....was EVERYWHERE!! 😅 We couldn't afford extra blankets for the winter, so used coats instead. I got dad's British Railway winter coat....which was soooo heavy, I could barely breath! Lol Ice inside the windows when you hot up in the morning. I think we were a lot tougher, years ago! Lol
Anyway....I have literally JUST come across an article on Google news stream.....where they send you news every day, and it's always very obvious that Google are spying on everything you look up! Guess what! .....they've just sent me an article on this exact heater, plus other similar heaters!!! The modern equivalent is supposed to have a low oxygen cut off, and a fall-over cut off, so a bit more updated than yours. Bloomin' expensive though, at £173.20!!! Without the wee gas canisters! Still can't work out what exactly counts as "ventilation"....ie. how far to open windows, and if you need an air flow through the room, or just one window open. I've only had a quick read, so will read again, but I thought I'd send you this link, esp regarding the uk's recent storm. You are only one of two uk video posters that I came across, when trying to research this stuff....it's all from America, and of course, most American houses are 3-4 times as big as ours, so their rooms would be huge compared to ours!
I'm not very techy, but hopefully, I can send you the link here:
www.bobvila.com/articles/best-non-electric-heater/
They also recommend getting a carbon monoxide detector for which ever room you use it in.
Best wishes....Jan, in Scotland 🙂
UPDATE: have spent ages now, researching the one that is recommended on this list, but technically it's still not suitable for indoors, and goes through a £21 canister of propane is 3 hours on full, plus the reviews are still mixed. There are loads of cheaper, generic heaters, that look just like yours, but when you go through the reviews, they sound really dodgy! Some have burst into flames! Some have set off people's carbon monoxide detectors too.
So....I honestly think, I will stick with pre-preparing flasks of boiling water, for hot drinks and hot water bottles. I have the wee camping stove in the shed, for use in the kitchen with the window cracked open, and I have several pillar candles. I do also have some throw-away hand warmers and feet warmers.
PS. I am registered with Scottish & Southern Electric, as being "vulnerable" due to being so ill. If you are over a certain age, or have medical problems or disabilities that make you more vulnerable, you can register as that with your energy provider, and also the national provider of energy for your area. I rang them the other day and asked advice about surviving a long power outage. She said that it is possible that they may put you up in a hotel (which wouldn't be very good for me, as I'm too ill) OR they might provide a generator.
I hope this info might be useful to people.
it just means that your not using up all the oxygen in the room or filling the room with poisonous gas. Ventilation just means the right balance. It depends on the size of the unit in proportion to the size of the enclosure, and the type of fuel.
maybe get a diesel heater, they run off 12 v, stick a solar panel, charge controller and deep cycle battery in ur garden, and diesel heater in ur home, you will not only have heat and can get diesel fairly easily from most places, but also electricity to charge your phone when need be, worst comes to worst atleast youll be warm
@@Mortthemoose something I remember from my childhood in the 80's living with my grandparents, the top kitchen window was always opened for ventilation when cooking, in the winter a piece of cheesecloth was velcro'd over the window to allow ventilation but block out most of the winds lol and a few times they used those little bistro type camp cookers that used the A4 pattern butane cans, they used 9v battery powered carbon monoxide alarms in the power cuts to be safer.
You need to remove the knob again because you should be able to get the Grill make a dark red glow, and your one is not going low enough, When on low the gas can should last 5 to 5 and a half hours, So if yours is not doing that then you need to do it again.
This was an old model that doesnt tilt . So it cannot be used to grill. I put it in a rubbish skip many months ago. Horrid bit of kit. Cheers from old George
Ps The gas cans currently available can have differing amounts of gas in them . Depends on price and where you get them from so burn time per gas can , can be so variable. Cheers from old George in the UK
I'm using one right now inside a cabin left the window kind of open in the winter lol my security company is cheap asf
If you can use a gas bottle & fire in your house, then why can't you use this? 🤔
I think I have answered this question in the comments. But it's the Manufacture you should ask the question. I am not an expert in anyway or form regarding my videos. Always seek professional advice. Before you take any videos on CZcams to be correct. Cheers from old George in the UK
I thought they were ment to be used in a greenhouse in winter
Does it give off much heat
Sorry unable to tell you as I was so disappointed in the product and threw it in the rubbish bin. Gas leaks and no safety devices etc. George
How long does a can of gas last ?
Theres more than one make of gas canisters. The contents and gas type and amount of gas vary on price of can. I have never run the heater long enough to answer the question. I buy the cheapo gas bottles mainly to refill the expensive compact camping gas canisters. Plenty of videos on CZcams how to do this. Cheers from old George
Circa 3 hours medium low
Do you live in Canada? I know some country require different warning on their products. Canada has much stricter safety laws. It may also be likely they put it on all their heaters no matter what country because they're shipping all over the world and want to play it safe. It can be costly to have products recalled by a government because of labeling problems.
International products are always labeled according to the strictest regulations. This is the same reason some cellphones like Samsung's Galaxy line don't have true call blocking. It isn't allowed in some authoritarian country's.
We are in the UK
You don't roast food over it, you put a frying pan on it and cook in that.
I don't know how as my heater doesn't hinge flat.
3:55 😘
They're just covering their 4sses against insurance claims I think. I'd be happy with this in a lightly ventilated shed or campervan with a gas and carbon monoxide detector placed correctly. the gas canisters are small so the chances of falling asleep and not waking up before it runs done would be very slim. People have ran gas buddy heaters for years without issues. I think if you understand the risks and use with a sensible understanding and apply some caution then all should be well. Ignorance is what creates these warning labels. My two cents anyway 🤪👍 cheers for showing us. Oh, it seems to be burning very clean, also providing us with a good indication that it's rather safe 🙂
I used to work for a company in the UK who made gas fires. I worked in the Research and Development dept. QA testing. Good luck.
@@MakeDoAndMend1 Would you advise again'st using one in a ventilated van with appropriate detectors and applying some common sense George. I do value your thoughts. I have an eberspacher in my van but unfortunately it stops on occasions because it's rather hard on the battery, this would be used as an emergency back up.
@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN I too have one of these that I bought as emergency back up for my van as my waebasco heater also sometimes knocks itself off. I've not used it in the van yet although I do have a carbon monoxide detector. I do use it in the awning and it is great at keeping me nice and toasty. Just recently bought one of those stove top heaters to put on top of the gas ring as another back up. Maybe a solution for you if you have a gas hob in your van.
@@elizabethfrance Thanks for your comment 👍 I purchased one of these little heaters after I commented here and I must say that I'm very happy with it. I've used this heater several times now and it's been great at keeping me very warm. I think like all heat sources attention, caution and the right detectors are a must, After that then simply just enjoy the heat they provide 👍
Those little stove top heaters work good to in an energy 🙂
@@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN Yes, I wouldn't leave it unattended or sleep with it on. It is really great for the awning on a cold evening.
Aslong as theres some ventilation it wont matter mate
Would not use it in a shed chance of CARBON MONOXIDE fumes
Please buy a Gimbal!
Cannot afford it. Not on my priority list. Pensioners pension doesnt go far these days.
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I got two first one properly smashed in the post still trying to send it back.......Anyway I think they are pants for want of a better word. They start of fine and then turn themselves down to almost nothing And as you say what the ....... is the point if you con not use it indoors..........Thanks.