What is the Future of Analog Horror?

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  • Analog horror is a genre I have become fond of over the years. I’ve watched it evolve from just one or two short webseries’, to a full fledged subgenre in the span of only a few years. In those years though, its popularity may have been its detriment. Many new analog horror videos follow many tropes introduced by the medium that many have grown tired of. It’s made me ask the question, is there a future for analog horror? Will the subgenre burn out? Or will it continue to evolve and adapt with people’s interests. This is what I am seeking to answer today.
    Huge thank you to Alex Kister for featuring in this video! / mandelacatalogue
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Komentáře • 409

  • @Daggz
    @Daggz  Před 2 lety +622

    So it has come to my attention that gomotion has basically made the exact same video as me today and I just wanna make it clear, that was NOT intentional. I and gomo have very different views about this genre of horror and if you want a heavily different one, go show her some love and give her video a watch :)
    Also 9:24 was a complete mistake I accidentally renamed a file for another file I have no idea how that happened I'm so annoyed that did lmao

    • @Trebolt
      @Trebolt Před 2 lety +9

      love the video but what's up with the silence from 12:44 to 12:54?

    • @gomotion
      @gomotion Před 2 lety +74

      holy fucking shit dude LMFAO

    • @ZukoPrince
      @ZukoPrince Před 2 lety +13

      Your video is actually constructive and less obnoxious, so it’s a win in my book.

    • @user-mn5zg4bi8h
      @user-mn5zg4bi8h Před 2 lety +11

      Ok just a suggestion that you should go watch the other Alex's series the Monument Mythos. Season 3 is starting up as of right now.

    • @mushmush4980
      @mushmush4980 Před 2 lety

      this video is one of the best ones yet

  • @MagDrag123
    @MagDrag123 Před 2 lety +1045

    Modern analogue horror be like:
    "There's something on Mars"
    *144p footage

    • @Joseph_Lambert
      @Joseph_Lambert Před 2 lety +98

      then the obligatory edgelord text and scary monster

    • @eliesh3833
      @eliesh3833 Před 2 lety +47

      Yeah, that's unfortunately the majority of Monument Mythos. As much as I like that series, even I think the visuals could be done better.

    • @Ganbre14
      @Ganbre14 Před 2 lety +43

      Also Analog horror:puts Black and white filtered face in a dark place with weird music yet we still get scared lol

    • @whatdadogdoin634
      @whatdadogdoin634 Před rokem +21

      I wanna see Analog horror where it's just so clear and high quality videos but at the same time gets censored like they don't want you to see it, just want a new take on the genre

    • @mihailnikolovski
      @mihailnikolovski Před rokem +7

      @@whatdadogdoin634 you are a fucking genius but that would be a bitch and a half to do.

  • @Future_Doggo
    @Future_Doggo Před 2 lety +1016

    Honestly, this is just a problem with modern horror in general. Most animators, game devs, directors, etc just chase already existing trends instead of making new ways to scare your audience.

    • @chris_the_heartbeat_lover.1994
      @chris_the_heartbeat_lover.1994 Před 2 lety +8

      I don't think there are more ways to create the scare factor in horror whatsoever

    • @nichtdeutsch
      @nichtdeutsch Před 2 lety +84

      @@chris_the_heartbeat_lover.1994 That's generally with anything in media. There's nothing to make but derivative content. However, love and effort will make a piece stand. At least to the creator they will.

    • @MineasTheKid
      @MineasTheKid Před 2 lety +8

      Just recently there was a showcase of like 4 games all using a sci-fi horror theme at summer gamefest.. They may not have all intended to follow that trend, but it's interesting how it happens

    • @Wendingus
      @Wendingus Před 2 lety +27

      It truly is a cycle of "someone makes something unique and unsettling" followed by it being run into the ground because everybody wants to try their hand at it and quality control goes out the window. "lost episode" creepypastas, SCP, two-sentence horror stories, the list goes on...

    • @juanrodriguez9971
      @juanrodriguez9971 Před 2 lety +18

      The problem is that innovation is hard, trends will always exist but surprises will rarely reappear.

  • @ECCOstation
    @ECCOstation Před 2 lety +269

    Alex's final thoughts, about pleasing audiences too much and refocusing on creating ideas personal to him...its such an obvious answer that rarely anyone ever sees. Whenever we share something with a mass community, I feel like there's a background pressure we put onto ourselves, thinking that the community needs approve of our art for it to be valid or quality.
    But at the end of the day, we should be creating art to express our thoughts and ideas, things that are unique to us as individuals. Art can be a medium for so many things, but unless we are putting ourselves into it in some way, it will ring hollow as time goes on.

  • @mikehawk4204
    @mikehawk4204 Před 2 lety +377

    I actually started wanting to make my own Analog Horror Series.
    Since I didn't have the talent for making audio or visuals.
    I decided to start doing the story and then I would think about it
    Long Story short
    I ended up making a novel.
    I'm still making it though, just that now with more creative freedom

    • @mikehawk4204
      @mikehawk4204 Před 2 lety +11

      @@ExtraTerrestrial69dudes I think one thing I learned while writting my novel
      Was also pacing
      I mostly only have 4 episodes and currently working on the 5ft
      The pacing of those are pretty good in the context, but If I keep that pacing it'll become too fast.
      So I finally decided to slow it down, since it's going to be a book.
      I can make it more longer, take my time o writte and have more things being explored.
      Doing this, actually helped me to make original concepts

    • @darinoooooooooooo1312
      @darinoooooooooooo1312 Před 2 lety +3

      OooOooOoOoHhh when will u release it? I wanna give it a try!

    • @mikehawk4204
      @mikehawk4204 Před 2 lety +8

      @@darinoooooooooooo1312 I'm currently writting it.
      But I could start like
      Publishing episodes in Wattpad
      If I do that, I'll send the link here

    • @victorvillarreal1335
      @victorvillarreal1335 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ExtraTerrestrial69dudes this pacing would work best with short stories, since the main point of short stories is to put you near the climax, so youre basically already in the action, no need go introduce characters

    • @growingsage
      @growingsage Před 2 lety +2

      I also want to make an analog horror, and I have a basic plot, but I don't know where to put the setting.

  • @mtdl3x
    @mtdl3x Před 2 lety +146

    The issue of "analog horror face" trope and the preconception that the genre has died and reached a creative roadblock greatly reminds me of a similar trend that has happened with Vaporwave in 2015-16. That oversaturation to me is just the same momentary phase where there's about to be a massive breakthrough that makes us realize that there's still a lot more to do with this concept.

    • @growingsage
      @growingsage Před 2 lety +8

      Ugh don't get me started on vaporwave. I over the genre and good songs are still out there, but people saw it trend and decided vaporwave was just "this song" but sped up slowed down" where it was more than that. Like most songs that used samples, vaporwave artists tried to make something new, but once it got "big", people wanted to just shit out a song at 1.25 speed or .25 speed and say "its vaporwave" with no effort.

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 Před 2 lety +476

    I just got back from watching The Mandela Catalogue Volume 3, and let me say this,
    While analog horror may seem over saturated and stale now, I believe there's still a chance for it to pull itself back up from the dirt and stand tall in the spotlight once again.

    • @kitty3257
      @kitty3257 Před 2 lety +61

      I absolutely agree - vol 333 was such a breath of fresh air from the classic tropes of analogue horror and was genuinely so impressive from a technical standpoint. Initially AH was an amazing way for creators to create content with a small budget, but now, seeing where Alex is taking the genre, it is clearly a form of horror that is very versatile and genuinely scary.

    • @chrispy5249
      @chrispy5249 Před 2 lety +27

      For that to happen, Analog Horror requires fear to come from the premise itself rather than the analog VHS filters. Local58 was scary due to the premise of the moon being a killer entity and aliens hijacking TV station, Mandela Catalogue was scary due to a world where copies of yourself and your beloved ones drive people to end themselves, not because of the VHS filter, and that's what most analog horror startups fail to notice.

    • @nonameman7114
      @nonameman7114 Před 2 lety +7

      @@chrispy5249 agreed well said, while VHS is apart of the genre’s foundation it feels like newcomers use it as a crutch instead of a narrative form like it should be. There’s also just many forms of analog besides VHS tapes, wish creators would step out of that comfort zone and try something different.

    • @marseillejoh
      @marseillejoh Před 2 lety +1

      Nah the shit was boring. There are too much moments where nothing happens at all. I couldn't even finish this episode. It drags on for too long.

    • @whatdadogdoin634
      @whatdadogdoin634 Před rokem +4

      @@nonameman7114 Analog horror should explore different genres like found footage on a phone, or an uncanny news broadcast when you think nothing is wrong until you realize it doesn't feel right

  • @xenom2.0
    @xenom2.0 Před 2 lety +46

    Monument mythos is my favourite anolog horror as it focuses more on mystery than spooky

    • @NovaBasalt
      @NovaBasalt Před 2 lety +11

      monument mythos is wonderfully paced, always expanding the world with more questions while giving us just enough answers to feel productive. it never feels repetitive and is so creative and detailed

    • @yayowuu
      @yayowuu Před 2 lety +2

      hell yes its honestly amazing. never ever thought that buildings, monuments and sculptures can be so terrifying

  • @sashae2848
    @sashae2848 Před 2 lety +218

    Since revisiting The Mandela Catalogue, I've been thinking about Alex Kister as a creator. Alex is pretty young, and I think TMC his first time tackling an ongoing project like this (please correct me if I'm wrong!). So it's incredibly impressive that he's managed to have such a massive impact on the genre. That being said, I feel like when people judge his early work on TMC, they need to keep that in mind, yk? Which is not to say that TMC is above criticism bc it very much is not, but watching the whole series through, you can tell how much of a learning experience the creation of this series has been for him. I don't think people sticking in ~spooky~ faces into their project without thinking about why Alex used them the way he did in TMC is really Alex's fault. Making online horror content is the same as creating literally anything else--you need missteps in order to improve. It just kind of sucks that the early work of someone who was learning and gaining experience in the field as he went along is used to judge him and the genre as a whole. I don't see it happening anytime soon, but I hope that one day, people can look back at some of the tropes and missteps of the genre with a little more kindness/nuance.

    • @ChristopherSadlowski
      @ChristopherSadlowski Před 2 lety +18

      @Epic he is. I think people need to keep that top of mind when interacting with his work. He's a literal kid, but he's got enough talent to make a big mark on an artistic medium. Unless one is INCREDIBLY lucky, their first shot at a movie or series isn't going to be perfect or even good necessarily. We learn and grow as we age, and our skills get better the more we practice and create. The OP is right that no creative work is above criticism, but for a 19 year old working on one of his first big projects, The Mandela Catalog is pretty damn good. There's a lot to unpack, the storytelling is subtle, and has just enough open threads to keep you guessing what's going on. I think people demand to be scared by something big and flashy which, unless you have a huge budget, is practically impossible for a kid making CZcams videos to pull off. Alex is making due with what he has, like any artist out there is doing every day.

  • @i_drewproductions
    @i_drewproductions Před 2 lety +153

    I actually still like it.
    I'll continue to support the Mandela
    Catalogue and the Walten files.
    It's just the cycle of trends treating everything as a trend and not something that can be enjoyed for months or years on end.

    • @futureblues720
      @futureblues720 Před 2 lety +28

      Exactly. It's silly that some people think 'the entire genre is dead' when the reality is just that AH is popular and has been around a few years.

  • @JFPlayeRsDream
    @JFPlayeRsDream Před 2 lety +31

    _Analog Horror Didn't Just Die | It Was Milked to Death_

  • @EbenFell
    @EbenFell Před 2 lety +44

    Look, it may be kinda oversaturated but I just love that the quality of the recent series like Mandela catalogue and The walten files being so high is basically confirming that when I’m old, I’ll be looking at old CZcams series instead of billion dollar studios when wanting to watch classic horror cause they’re THAT much better

  • @theftking
    @theftking Před 2 lety +1333

    I think on one hand, analog horror series are more popular than _ever_ - _The Mandela Catalogue_ has fangames and stuff, far beyond what Marblehornets ever had. That said, because of its popularity, more and more people started making analog horror series, and not all of them were really high quality. The genre was oversaturated.

    • @i_drewproductions
      @i_drewproductions Před 2 lety +75

      King, I also find fault in many habits made by modern internet trend and cringe culture. That being a mix of "overrated = bad", and the fact that if it trended, it can't be enjoyed outside of its trend frame. Like everything popular is a passing fad, everything has an expiration date, but that's not true, pepole can enjoy these sereis even if it's not as popular, and the internet needs to learn that instead of trying to shut everything down.

    • @Ranixo286
      @Ranixo286 Před 2 lety +53

      Yeah, Mandela, Gemini, and Walten work because they're made with genuine love and care and have some thought that goes into it. Just because it's popular doesn't make it inherently bad, but it does draw cash/clout grabbing copycats.

    • @DmitriDmitri
      @DmitriDmitri Před 2 lety +7

      Well-explained. This sums up my main issues with the current state of analog horror.

    • @SiffrinISAT
      @SiffrinISAT Před 2 lety +4

      Adding to that the fact that some people don't feel scared about it and instantly assume no-one MUST be scared of it because they aren't, it ends up being a "cringe video, not actually scary" critic, despite some of us actually being creeped out by the (good and ones with effort put into them) videos of it.

    • @lemur1129
      @lemur1129 Před 2 lety

      "Far beyond what marbel hornets ever had" Dude, there's way more Slenderman games that have far more popularity then the analog genre itself.
      The reason you don't see any marbel hornets games is because marbel hornets is based off of Slenderman, which already has games.

  • @SiffrinISAT
    @SiffrinISAT Před 2 lety +74

    The distorted faces might not seem scary for some, but for me they're honestly *terrifying* because they trigger my paranoia pretty bad. It's a horror that triggers something IN my mind, compared to a horror that I just find scary because of the concept itself.

  • @TheMilitantHorse
    @TheMilitantHorse Před rokem +6

    I think one of the strongest successors for Analog Horror comes from Mister Manticore, the creator of the Monument Mythos. His stuff is very psychological and kinda surreal in terms of horror.

    • @kiplingwasafurry1108
      @kiplingwasafurry1108 Před rokem +3

      What I love about MM is he creates horror through alternate history. Sure it has scary monsters and such, but a big chunk of the events happen because of Rockefeller, Dean, and the ADA.

  • @standardhuman8675
    @standardhuman8675 Před 2 lety +188

    as much as analog horror is getting stale, im not gonna stop watching it. just because my bread gets a little stale doesn't mean im not gonna eat it! a lot of these series' have heart, and the creators deserve respect for what they do. that said, im getting a little tired of the stretched faces.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 Před 2 lety +1

      4k videos feeling stale

    • @growingsage
      @growingsage Před 2 lety +3

      While i agree, I still think the warped faces have a place in analog horror, but what matters is the execution. some people treat them like an easy way out similar to jumpscares. Some horror series just put them in arbitrarily without the *why* they're there. FBAF VHS put them in to show how sinister Afton truly was under that mask of normalcy. Walten Files used them to show how badly someone was killed or to show which person occupied which robot. Even Mandela Catalogue, with its missteps, was using it to show that Alternates could fuck up in their replication. So they have a place if you use them as a way of symbolism, but if you just throw them around for shits and giggles, then it's just boring.

    • @standardhuman8675
      @standardhuman8675 Před 2 lety +1

      yeah, walten files can keep messing with faces, as a treat ;)

  • @ArekusaSan
    @ArekusaSan Před 2 lety +27

    One thing about analog horror that kinda irks me - along with the repetition - is that some of the subjects don’t need the analog format. Like, the analog is supposed to make it creepier or something? Basically it’s slapped on without thought, when it could’ve been done just fine without a VHS filter. I think it’d be cool to see an expansion on the breadth of ways people interacted with analog media back in the day when it was commonplace (like AV clubs). Integrating history with unfiction would make for a fun addition to a well-written story, though it might take a lot of research to pull off.

  • @melasn9836
    @melasn9836 Před 2 lety +24

    OMG, you're so right about KG/Land of Mushrooms/the Polish series whose name I can't spell being a predecessor to analog horror in its format! It's one of my favorites, and I'm mad I never saw the connection till you pointed them out!

    • @aldrinspade
      @aldrinspade Před rokem +2

      Yeah, it's obviously meant to be an old TV show. It just didn't catch on back then.

  • @minecraftsteve2504
    @minecraftsteve2504 Před 2 lety +47

    I would honestly love to sit down and talk to Alex Kister about his work, and all around have a friendly conversation with him.
    His work has been interesting, even episode 1 was very interesting, even if it fed into tropes.
    I feel like the analog horror fans need to reach the same understanding as many other fans
    Derivative doesn't equal bad, it's about the execution.
    Demon Slayer is a prime example of this. It's tropey and generic, but its tropes are executed so well that it's enjoyable and fresh
    But people still seem to constantly think, "oh if it's not original, it's no good"
    Not that being original is bad, i just don't want people to think that being unroriginal is terrible, as it depends on execution and delivery
    In a sense, a unique execution can make something unoriginal, more original in a weird sense.

  • @fiend-ish1090
    @fiend-ish1090 Před 2 lety +40

    i definately don't watch a lot of analog horror, but i can say that its not as bad some people think. i don't like how some elements are so overused (honestly usually by series not worth watching lol) but series that focus on story and content rather than just the aesthetic will always be worth it to me. the walten files is one of my favourites bc of this, the story of not only the restaurant but of sophie and felix kranken and what happened to all of the spirits in the animatronics is amazing. same with petscop, its not only a beautiful series that absolutely nails its ps2 aesthetic (to a scary degree lol) but its a perfectly put together story of trauma and healing that is also an engaging mystery to analyze. i think its worth it as long as people continue to have a passion for creating and not just following the trend

  • @phoneheaded
    @phoneheaded Před 2 lety +22

    As someone who's been following args/analogue horror stories since the days of Human Pet, My Dad's Tapes, and Alan Tutorial, I hope people continue to innovate the genre. Quality content still exists, but is harder to find now because of the accessibility of the medium. A large part of this oversaturation is derived from people finding their niche and developing their story telling abilities. It's not so much that analogue horror has declined, but that it's experiencing growth.

  • @milesbosau
    @milesbosau Před 2 lety +18

    i feel like you’ve gotten to a point where i watch your videos not just cuz you’re my friend, but because they’re good asf

  • @Crazygamergal
    @Crazygamergal Před 2 lety +11

    If you want great analog horror I’d recommend the omega mart commercials! No jump scares. No melting faces. Just really weird and off products that make you go “huh? What’s a glorbox?” It’s bundle of fun!

  • @alang.bandala8863
    @alang.bandala8863 Před rokem +2

    The Smile Tapes is so similar to Mandela Catalog that at first I confused them, same with Gemini Home Entertainment and Local58, let alone badwatter2009 and gunslinguer2009 with GMod's ARGs.

  • @jordanboyd5587
    @jordanboyd5587 Před 2 lety +112

    The Walten Files was the first horror series I've seen in a long time that genuinely unnerved me first time watching. A bit of bias, but I don't think any other analog horror channels (besides Battington and Gemini Home Entertainment) have ever came close to re-living that fear as TWF did.

    • @growingsage
      @growingsage Před 2 lety +6

      I watched FNAF VHS as my first analogies horror and it gave me chills. It was good to finally hear the reason behind his murder spree. And to know it was just because he wanted revenge on his son and kids like him for accidentally killing his youngest really got me. No it doesn't excuse his murder, but to hear it from Afton himself and find out how much of a sociopath he was. How he was just like "oh yeah I killed those kids" and he treats it like it's a regular thing like how he wakes up and goes for coffee.
      Walten Files was my second and it really cemented my love for the genre. I think I'm just a sucker for family dramas and haunted pizza places, but seeing the Walten Family just fall apart amd sophie trying to piece together her memories keeps me interested.

    • @yumibebestgirl9719
      @yumibebestgirl9719 Před rokem

      In my opinion, no offense to walls cause he's a great artist, but the "scary" faces honestly look really retarded when I look at them now, yet at the same time the choice of colors just makes me feel uneasy
      But not flaming because its one of the only series that does AH decently, so I'll just call it the "Max and Ruby 0004" of the genre, it has imagery that will always stick with me. But I won't deny it's flaws where they exist.

    • @Angelica-is3en
      @Angelica-is3en Před rokem +5

      same. I felt chilled to my bones watching TWF. i can't even describe the feeling, I felt unsettled in my own body. amazing combination of both found footage and animation, you can tell that it's well thought-out and it's executed very well. the lore is a lot easier to decipher than other analog horror series but I don't even mind because I love seeing it all come together. I might be a bit biased just like you haha

    • @ElPolloLoco7689
      @ElPolloLoco7689 Před rokem +5

      The Walten Files still terrify me today. the voice acting and the overall execution is so good

    • @awesomesmileyguy
      @awesomesmileyguy Před rokem +3

      I love how REAL the Walten Files gets to be. Very little is censored, it doesn't feel like it theory-baits or lore-baits anyone, the voice acting is great while the animation and art always feel off-key in the right way. Also, it's super refreshing to have the 'William Afton' of the series be a deeply misguided man consumed by guilt, but also by fear of facing the consequences of his actions. Not some kill-happy dude who has magic technology that allows him to turn his victims into marketable animatronics. I can't remember if there's merch of it or not, and I won't go looking for it, but it doesn't feel like a cheap attempt to get popular.

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 Před 2 lety +32

    There are some actually good analog horror channels that are fairly recent, but don't get enough attention nor views.
    Here are some of my recommendations:
    -TRYRED WITNESS ARCHIVES
    -RICHLAND
    -Midwest Angelica
    -PocketPainter

  • @rogercheetoofficial
    @rogercheetoofficial Před 2 lety +13

    honestly, seeing how people paint their own artistic style onto the format makes looking into new creators in the genre worthwhile sometimes

  • @Deform-2024
    @Deform-2024 Před 2 lety +67

    All horror becomes oversaturated with popularity. Personally I never cared for the spoopy faces and jumpscares of Mandela Catalog and FNAF VHS. Gemini home entertainment remains the best example of this group in my opinion. However, there really isn't anything interesting going on outside of the analog space. Horror period has been lacking nowadays.

    • @LasagaMan
      @LasagaMan Před 2 lety +3

      There's Also Monument Mythos, but you could argue it's not really able to be put into the same space as Gemini and the others

    • @kiplingwasafurry1108
      @kiplingwasafurry1108 Před rokem +1

      @@LasagaMan yes I love Monument Mythos

  • @minecraftsteve2504
    @minecraftsteve2504 Před 2 lety +10

    Love how this video was uploaded around the time of Mandela Catalogue v3, which definitely kicked analog horror back into style again with how creative it was

  • @bradykim8438
    @bradykim8438 Před 2 lety +9

    “I am.. a McMep-URRRRRRR”
    -Mike Buckerzerg

  • @carlcarlington7317
    @carlcarlington7317 Před 2 lety +25

    My biggest issue with most analog horror anymore is that it’s all build up with little to no payoff. Each series being a new mystery box where the answer to “what’s inside the box?” Is always “that’s the question MWAHAHA!” Or more likely “I didn’t think it through that much.” This type of story telling has worked in the past but only out of novelty, as a surprise that comes from stories usually not working that way. when you have an entire genre that’s nothing but that trick over and over again not only does it lose it’s novelty it becomes emotionally exhausting. Your timeline turns into a mob of randos harassing you with their own mystery box which will inevitably all be empty. You know it’s going to be empty you’ve seen this trick before but everyone keeps reusing it like they’re fucking Chris angel.

    • @2pisces
      @2pisces Před 2 lety

      i actually think the opposite, i feel like analog horror hardly has any tension anymore and the payoffs are weak and overused, its not shocking anymore and doesnt leave anything to your imagination either if done poorly

    • @HavocMusic1759
      @HavocMusic1759 Před 2 lety

      Thank you, now imma make a ah explaining *What is the box?*

  • @sleepyhead_toby
    @sleepyhead_toby Před 2 lety +14

    Honestly, I really love analog horror. Many of them have very unique and interesting story.
    However, much of their presentation is the same. Morphed faces, loud glitchy noises/alarms, glitchy scenes etc.
    I feel if we expanded more on these ideas and add in more unique imagery, sound effect and such it would not feel so repetitive.
    There are plenty more way to scare people then scary faces and loud noises. Just the atmosphere of a video can really freak people out, like slow but eerie music and mildly off-putting images. Even if nothing truly happens, it still leaves people pretty creeped out. And from that initial scare, you can really expand upon that to get much more scary and disturbing.

  • @DaxmathecoolNobodie
    @DaxmathecoolNobodie Před 2 lety +8

    I think the establishing shots in Mandela catalog v.3333 are my favorite. So striking and unsettling. I really hope we get to see a person or something interact with those environments in the future. Honestly v.3333 is my fave overall. Horror without having to rely on O ----- O face

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 Před 2 lety +18

    Just a quick side note about your FNAF VHS segment, while Squimpus may have started the trend, they weren't the ones who created the genre.
    That honor goes to Junior0437, who started it all the way back on December 28th, 2016.
    That's right, FNAF VHS has been a thing since late 2016.

  • @watcherknight8760
    @watcherknight8760 Před 2 lety +8

    As the genre stagnates, the creators of most of, if not pretty much all the mentioned series creators have done something or stated they're planning to do something that changes the format of their videos. You mentioned Alex's post and Local58's new video, but Wretched Hands and Shifting Tendons are also departures from Gemini Home Entertainment's standard format, and I'm pretty sure Martin Walls has said he's planning on taking the Walten Files in a new direction.

  • @valletas
    @valletas Před 2 lety +11

    I HATE how every analog horror video theres that guy
    You know the one
    "Thats how you do real horror WITHOUT JUMPSCARES"
    Ignoring the fact that 99% of analog horror also uses jumpscares...

  • @jessi55290
    @jessi55290 Před 2 lety +8

    The most unique analog horror to me is NEPHTHYS MEDIA. It feel it's very underrated for how interesting the story unfolds through the series into something much larger than it seemed early on.

  • @D4RKRHINO
    @D4RKRHINO Před rokem +3

    One of the most underrated things I’ve seen is Malediction Chapter 1 (while it isn’t exactly a game, it gives off a nice illusion of it) it’s a choose your own adventure type CZcams video where the choices you make affect what happens. It has multiple endings and it’s amazing. It’s both horrifying and hilarious. I would love to see a video covering this… I think it genuinely deserves more attention.

  • @freddyandfoxy7526
    @freddyandfoxy7526 Před 2 lety +68

    I like analogue horror alot. They generally creep me out and I don't care about the style of analogue. I understand why some analogue horror creators when they watch their own videos they cringe and I get why some analogue horror creators get burnt out and quit. Like the person who made a lesser known analogue horror series called Evertide media. He didn't want to do it anymore probably because he got burnt out. I still like analogue horror and they always scare me or give me the chills.

    • @freddyandfoxy7526
      @freddyandfoxy7526 Před 2 lety +5

      And there's probably still some smaller analogue horror channels that still could be up and coming. A CZcamsr called Pagan Valley recently made a video about a analogue horror series called Key Archives

    • @Namefag23
      @Namefag23 Před 2 lety

      They suck. Watch something better and creepier

  • @jogagliardi
    @jogagliardi Před 2 lety +13

    I'm a film student who is h e a v i l y inspired by analog horror. I mean my stuff hasn't been noticed which is fine, but it's definitely derivative of genre conventions. I draw so much of my inspirations as a creator from analog horror works so as a learning creator who is seeing how the genre is quickly becoming stale, my opinion is that the next big analog horror "hit" will have to draw from the language of conventional narrative works. One of the best and worst things about the genre is that it's easy to produce. Anyone with minimal experience can throw together a poorly made analog work but only the best actively take advantage of the medium as the message. Being cryptic is easy, telling a cryptic story is hard, telling a cryptic story that is motivated by the visual medium is even harder. So I think that an evolution of the genre looks like original analog period-inspired programming that resembles something like a narrative television show or news content: media that actually resembles a genuine production with cohesive construction in both story and context. Local58 set the bar for competence in the genre I think, and the unfortunate aspect of the genre's growing staleness is that nobody has attempted to transform local58's premise, they've only attempted to do it "better". And in that time, Local58 transformed itself and left other analog works even further behind.

  • @Lucatrocity
    @Lucatrocity Před 2 lety +5

    Insane coincidence this video went up at the same time as Gomotion’s Analog Horror critique video lmao

  • @someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779

    I feel like this is a problem with horror in general lately, we have too many projects just imitating whatever's popular instead of actually trying to do something new and different with it

  • @nprnilk
    @nprnilk Před 2 lety +11

    Maybe Analog Horror greatness came when it was just a small community.

  • @WingsofMelody
    @WingsofMelody Před 2 lety +5

    imo, you were spot on with how you explained the development of analog horror from point to point. you have a really good grasp on how it bounced around different internet spaces.
    i was never one to look these series out, and nexpo's local58 video introduced me to the genre. i was obsessed with its unique form of storytelling and the uncomfortable familiarity of analog mediums. and then in 2020, i discovered scrimpus' vhs tapes, which reignited my interest in fnaf due to its coverage of the more dark and down to earth parts of the story. then walten files and gemini and finally mandela. and you are so right, that's what did it. but i love how alex and the other creators are using this period of staleness to creatively challenge themselves and the enjoyers of the genre

  • @coolepicperson4150
    @coolepicperson4150 Před 2 lety +13

    If you want an example of where I think it can go in the future , “They Lie Above” is super human, avoids all of these tropes, uses new interesting techniques

    • @enigmaj1494
      @enigmaj1494 Před 2 lety

      A lot of people subtly poke fun at the creator of it because he made the Smile Tapes and that gets pointed at for the heavy use of tropes, but I like both series. I definitely am more scared of They Lie Above for it’s simplicity and not relying on visuals (except for creepy censored aliens and unaging men) but I admire the body horror-contagion ideas of ST.

  • @bigblue344
    @bigblue344 Před 2 lety +17

    Yeah I can say that analog horror was fun at first but then quickly outgrew it's welcome mostly from people that don't understand how to make it work, like "why are you recording this to begin with other then to have that VHS look" and written by people who thought glitches in video games are spooky.

  • @ToyFreddyGaming1987
    @ToyFreddyGaming1987 Před 2 lety +10

    My favorite analog horror series is definitely Mario 64 Classified, also known as Greenio's tapes. Yeah I know it falls more into haunted video game stuff & it's kinda crusty early on, but it gets really good later on.

  • @lmrls1187
    @lmrls1187 Před 2 lety +7

    Just a little tip, But if you want to take more square screenshots of Discord, you can magnify the text size in the settings.

    • @Daggz
      @Daggz  Před 2 lety +1

      Ohh alright, thanks I'll know that for future reference!! :)

  • @canomahad
    @canomahad Před 2 lety +17

    Bro you're so underrated
    and yes; i believe that ah(analog horror) has gotten stale and always has a sense of dejavu due to most creative ideas already being done, or oversaturated in such a short time that you burn out of it.
    I appreciate this opinion and its very refreshing to see

  • @corbel8_
    @corbel8_ Před rokem +2

    THE WAY YOU SAY KRAINA GRZYBÓW IS SO HILARIOUS

  • @ohheyitswolfie
    @ohheyitswolfie Před 2 lety +7

    This is the first video of yours I've watched since I subbed from the DBD stream you did with Theft King and, I gotta say, this is a pretty good video! Audio was a little low but, other than that, I enjoyed and watched till the end! Hope the rest of your videos are as good a quality as this!

  • @cherie..cherry
    @cherie..cherry Před 2 lety +17

    For me, the reason I can get behind AH anymore is it seems every one relies on jumps cares. Like almost every one I see has cheap “scary pictures” or just plain disturbing sounds or images and that’s the extent it goes to to being scary. And my preference is for actual world building or psychological horror. Not “Oh my face is scary and there was a spooky sound”. It feels like an insult to what made Indie and AH scary in the first place.

    • @Namefag23
      @Namefag23 Před 2 lety

      You should watch tribetwelve theh

    • @ronaldmcdonald4105
      @ronaldmcdonald4105 Před 2 lety

      Mandela catalouge is a perfect example of not having jumpscares while having amazing lore and being scary as shit

    • @Namefag23
      @Namefag23 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ronaldmcdonald4105 except it does

    • @ronaldmcdonald4105
      @ronaldmcdonald4105 Před 2 lety

      @@Namefag23 it doesnt i dont remember a single jump scare

    • @Namefag23
      @Namefag23 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ronaldmcdonald4105 watch recordings arg then

  • @gladyouredead5073
    @gladyouredead5073 Před 2 lety +6

    I have to say i love how you pronounce "Kraina Grzybów"

  • @FBD_WalterClements71
    @FBD_WalterClements71 Před 2 lety +5

    I really do look forward to seeing what the future holds for mandela and especially local 58. makes me wonder what digital horror can be capable of

  • @CarmenBeckett
    @CarmenBeckett Před 2 lety +9

    NEW DAGGZ VIDEO YEEEEEEES

  • @EggmanlandResident
    @EggmanlandResident Před 2 lety +3

    It seems like one of the main issues with analog horror is how people see it as a genre instead of a medium. In that way, it's similar to animation. For a long time, animation was seen as just something for kids, that it wasn't able to expand and tell deeper stories that kids and adults could enjoy. Then you look at the east, and how Japan has created anime ranging from very kid friendly to brutal adult animations. In that way, it's similar to video games as well. And going off of the video game perspective, just look at the EXE games. Most people were falling into the trap that "because X did it, so must I."
    These are mediums that can be pushed and pulled in many different ways, and are reliant on the creators trying to...for lack of a better phrase, be creative. All it takes is a little perspective and thinking outside the box to prevent that staleness.

  • @averagejoe5145
    @averagejoe5145 Před rokem +1

    We're now starting to see a new type of analog horror that you mentioned in passing in your video: haunted video games. The most prominent example I can think of right now is Andy's Apple Farm & its companion game Bunny Knight. Some might count the "Amanda the Adventurer" as analog horror too.

  • @doubletyphoon66
    @doubletyphoon66 Před 2 lety +3

    At the end of your video theirs a glitch sound (clearly added for effect) but the timing was insane because as soon as it happened my app crashed

  • @backwardsbandit8094
    @backwardsbandit8094 Před 2 lety +2

    I truly and wholeheartedly believe that no matter what happens, found footage horror will never die so long as passionate creative people keep it alive. It has been an absolute treat to see this genre take on many turns and I truly believe that there is so much more fruit to bear from this genre. Yes it's hard to come up with something original on the spot, that remains true for all genres, but found footage horror will always have something to produce now that video footage is a technological development in human history. Never give up hope on your creative endeavors!

  • @LUCKYNUMB3R_7
    @LUCKYNUMB3R_7 Před 2 lety

    Really proud and surprised to see CH/SS finally get some recognition, really good series and I'd suggest watching it.

  • @Betapvnk
    @Betapvnk Před 2 lety +6

    Well Clear Lakes 44 was the first from what I remember, it later morphed into ECKVA

    • @pineapplepenguin1759
      @pineapplepenguin1759 Před 2 lety +1

      I dont think saying "It Morphed into CH/SS" is the right term, because that makes it sound like they're connected.

    • @Betapvnk
      @Betapvnk Před 2 lety +1

      @@pineapplepenguin1759 my bad, I meant ECKVA

    • @Betapvnk
      @Betapvnk Před 2 lety

      It’s been so long I get my ARG shit mixed up

  • @derekdistler5153
    @derekdistler5153 Před 2 lety +7

    Wow 2 analog horror videos in one day?!?!
    Another one was by gomotion

  • @papapalps3513
    @papapalps3513 Před 2 lety +20

    The only two that have ever legitimately gotten me scared or disturbed was FNAF VHS and The Mandela Catalogue, others always just feel like retreads of what those two did and it gets boring for me. It's gotten to a point when a new series comes out I just poke fun at how bland and unoriginal it is

  • @milesbosau
    @milesbosau Před 2 lety +4

    9:22 in no world is this not the jerma sus face before the analog horror face

  • @Solinaru
    @Solinaru Před 2 lety +12

    It's kinda funny to read the comments on how people felt AH has gotten stale and yet it's been one of the few things I keep looking forward to finding and sharing.
    Maybe it's a generational thing? I know personally I love AH like Gemini and Local58 since I only had access to "stolen cable" in the 90's. I saw so many things at night when every other channel would just go into news or reruns.
    AH hits that spot of always being afraid that the next thing on screen was going to affect you in ways that you couldn't share with anyone else.

    • @Solinaru
      @Solinaru Před 2 lety

      Side note 1: AH and "Game I found" need a name like "legacy media horror" or "forbidden data". So many "game I found" series and games feature the same horror that make AH work as the media is found usually without the original author intent to be found. As such it feels like there is forbidden knowledge that is unearthed in these games the same way that the same fear comes out from AH.

  • @monikahmm
    @monikahmm Před 2 lety +5

    thank you for talking about kraina grzybów. polish series deserve more recognition in online horror

  • @tylergamestar1233
    @tylergamestar1233 Před 2 lety +6

    Pretty funny this came out on the same day as the Mandela catalog vol. 333

  • @JuliaElizabethGraves
    @JuliaElizabethGraves Před rokem

    I must admit I didn’t even recognize what you were talking about from your pronounciation of Kraina Grzybów hahaha (as a polish person i used to watch it a lot growing up)

  • @ImmaLittlePip
    @ImmaLittlePip Před rokem +2

    I honestly do think digital horror is the next step for the CZcams horror genre to go
    1. Most of the series out tackle stuff most of the audiences can relate to (Nostalgia is a good key to horror it's why Creepypastas that were about old video games or cartoons were so popular) let's face it most people who watch analog horror didn't grow up with VHS or a pre internet world
    2. It's honestly less restrictive than analog horror and it's techniques are different then flim grain disrupting the screen for the 100th time
    3. Honestly its still new so there's a ton of potential and it's niche so it hasn't been milked by lazy kids content creators

    • @AverageUsernames
      @AverageUsernames Před rokem +2

      It been here long time ago, it's just you didn't knew the term before it got created.

  • @RambunctiousReptilian
    @RambunctiousReptilian Před 2 lety +13

    You know one possible way I thought of to avoid the genre of AH getting ‘stale’. Make more Analog series based off of existing properties. Series like The Gotham Tapes and The Suitmation Trials are excellent examples, taking series like Godzilla Batman and throwing them into a new genre of horror. Imagine something like an SCP or hell, an Evangelion analog series.

    • @KeeeKeeedemon
      @KeeeKeeedemon Před 2 lety +2

      I think a really cool Analog Horror premise could be done with 1984, Only in this case INSOC is trying to keep a lethal secret under wraps.

  • @globaleas6568
    @globaleas6568 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video!

  • @rappingbeaniedog347
    @rappingbeaniedog347 Před 2 lety +2

    I know mandela is considered to have overplayed the genre, which doesn't help with it's burst into popularity, but it does play with my occasional existential dread with dopplegangers and has a really neat story to go with it. I think Alex definitely deserves the popularity he gets. I am of course a tad biased because it's the first Analog Horror I actually cared about enough to stick with. Primarily from the story and the reason behind the spooky faces n glitched audio, not to mention the vhs aspect does make sense in context.

  • @mimzidonl436
    @mimzidonl436 Před 2 lety

    Home playing in the background is brilliant, idk I just love that song.

  • @gost7821
    @gost7821 Před 2 lety +6

    The issue I have is how many horror games/videos that feel like all gimmick and almost no actual substance.
    I don’t know if I’ll ever enjoy any kind of “found videogame”-type horror like I enjoyed petscop, because unlike petscop it feels like most others depend wayyy too much on “glitches” and cheap, uncharacteristic jumpscares that break immersion, rather than having anything new or interesting to show. Petscop wasn’t perfect, but it played itself straight and didn’t rely on glitches, jumpscares, or just following trends.

  • @iCheZee
    @iCheZee Před rokem

    I think ElectricFanatic deserved a mention. Solid EAS channel and the Awakening video was one of the last times I've been truly disturbed and shaken by a CZcams video.

  • @kitty3257
    @kitty3257 Před 2 lety +19

    I first got into analogue horror through the Walten Files which, in my opinion, deserves much more fame than it currently has (although it is on a hiatus of course). It's sad to see that people are playing out the techniques that the Walten Files used incredibly well (distorted faces, slow pacing, etc), because I know from personal experience that that kind of horror can be incredibly effective. I hope that after the fourth part comes out, people will praise it without claiming that it is 'just another basic analogue horror'

  • @raestarzz
    @raestarzz Před 2 lety +7

    I've been a fan of analog horror since Local 58 became a thing. Obviously, L58 was great. But it terms of more recent series, heres my two cents.
    FNAF VHS (squrimpus mcgrimpus) - Love it. Have always loved the story behind FNAF, but never thought the horror aspect hit quite right. This was perfect. Gave me trouble sleeping. The designs and imagery were spine chilling, and I love the addition to the pre-established story.
    The walten files - I've heard a lot of negativity around this series, but I've always loved it. The story, the characters, the scares, everything was well thought out, and well executed (for the most part.) Personally, the most scary to me wasn't even canon, that being the mysterious house. So scary and wonderful.
    Mandela catalogue - Hit or miss. I personally enjoyed the first one with its religious horror themes, but a lot of the scares in future videos didnt hit for me. I do think the story has a lot of potential, and the scares that hit, really hit.
    The smile tapes - I didn't like this series. It seemed all over the place, and while i think the first bits were a little unsettling, they got old quick. I understand the popularity behind it, but personally, it's not my taste, nor the best series to come out of recent analog horror.

  • @lyxandrast0ttr0n1x8
    @lyxandrast0ttr0n1x8 Před 2 lety +1

    Someone should make a video essay about Analog Horror that turns out to be an Analog Horror video....although I guess that would be Digital Horror?

  • @wakspacific6928
    @wakspacific6928 Před 2 lety +5

    Check out Southern Hospitality by Squeeks D Corgeh of Polardread and Decimate of Chuck E Cheese’s rebooted. Underrated

  • @Yuti640
    @Yuti640 Před 2 lety

    This fond footage trope is pretty cool

  • @beeman9229
    @beeman9229 Před 2 lety +4

    Nobody:
    The funny lizard dude: BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  • @brainworms
    @brainworms Před rokem

    You should definitely do a video on Monument Mythos

  • @neutro1538
    @neutro1538 Před 2 lety +1

    this needs more views

  • @zyroberk
    @zyroberk Před 2 lety +6

    The analog horror burnout for me started with the Mandela Catalogue. It looks silly af.

    • @ronaldmcdonald4105
      @ronaldmcdonald4105 Před 2 lety

      really mandela catalogue was the opposite its scary without jumpscares and amazing world building

  • @pineapplepenguin1759
    @pineapplepenguin1759 Před 2 lety +9

    8:33 Honestly I always thought these were stupid since fnaf vhs started doing it. Some ridiculous funny image of a girl edited to give her a masssive megamind jimmy neutron 5-head shows up in the top right corner, i and everyone's like "omg wtf is that it's so scary!!!" and I legit just dont get it. I always just see face edits like that as funny. And dont get me started on mandela catalouge and the smile tapes litteraly using the fucking jerma sus face and unironically expecting you to be scared by it

  • @D1stop1an
    @D1stop1an Před 2 lety +8

    I'm tired of analog aspect of AH, can't it take place in like the early 2000s at least, I know people were still using those types of cameras up until then

  • @LeoGaming55
    @LeoGaming55 Před 2 lety +8

    Great Video! Though I just have one request. Could you make the audio a *tad* bit louder? I’m currently playing the video at max volume and it isn’t all too loud

    • @xielianobsessor
      @xielianobsessor Před 2 lety +3

      that might just be a you problem bud, cause the audio seems fine for me 🤷 what device are you watching it on? cause i’m on my phone and it sounds fine?

    • @LeoGaming55
      @LeoGaming55 Před 2 lety +1

      @@xielianobsessor I’m on phone too. Keep in mind that I’m not using earbuds/headphones

    • @H3ll0D34rFri3nds
      @H3ll0D34rFri3nds Před 2 lety +1

      it may just be your phone cause the audio is fine for me

  • @SomeRandomCyclops
    @SomeRandomCyclops Před 2 lety +4

    Funni VHS effect go H̭̗̬̖̙̗̻͖̝̪͔̠̘̫̤͔͐̐̂̚͠Ę̶̵̶̢̨͕͉͈̻̘͉̟͇͈͎̥̻̂̏ͮ̽̍͆̋̌̏̉̽ͨ̂̑ͩ́͘͟͢͝͝͠L̡̲̣̪̗̖̳̤͕̺͍̪̟̻͓͒̈͛͋́̓̋̄ͭ͘͟͞͞͝͏̶͟P̴̸̢̛̛̛̮̻̫̠̗̬̳̠̩̫̼̗̪͚̾̄̇̕͟͢͞͡ͅ

    • @bigblue344
      @bigblue344 Před 2 lety

      It feels more like a haunted fun house then trying to capture genuine horror.

  • @thomashall6733
    @thomashall6733 Před 2 lety +2

    I feel like the popularity of The Backrooms by Kane Pixels is proof that Analog Horror still has staying power

  • @professornova1236
    @professornova1236 Před 2 lety +11

    Woke: Analog horror is the professionally done resurgence of the Void meme

  • @Mr.StopMotion
    @Mr.StopMotion Před 2 lety

    As I make analog horror I enjoyed this vid keep up the good work man!👍

  • @Lokstar47
    @Lokstar47 Před 2 lety

    I love your pronunciation of Kraina Grzybów, it's hillarious.

    • @Daggz
      @Daggz  Před 2 lety +1

      Polish is definitely not my first language... Or my second, or like... My 25th... 😅

    • @Lokstar47
      @Lokstar47 Před 2 lety

      @@Daggz Oh believe me, it's my first and I sometimes wonder how I am able to wield that.

  • @TFD.aep2
    @TFD.aep2 Před 2 lety +1

    How could you not cover the literal best analog horror series out there, monument mythos? I bet that would cure any fatigue from the genre

  • @Hanchalk_
    @Hanchalk_ Před 2 lety +6

    This is a huge improvement from your last video :D
    You’re coming into your own style and its enhanced every part of the content.
    Probably got fucked up grammar cos I’m tired lol

  • @levacity3001
    @levacity3001 Před rokem +2

    Although I don't find most series in the genre scary, the only 4 that were actually scary and well executed were
    Local 58 (just really like the concept)
    The Walten Files (just incredibly deep and well executed)
    Petscop (the best one, tbh)
    Gemini Home Entertainment (the later episodes, mostly)

  • @Monamiinx
    @Monamiinx Před 2 lety +4

    It was a unique concept, but nobody is bring new ideas to the table. Its always the same structure of "loud sound stretchy faces vhs"

  • @kiplingwasafurry1108
    @kiplingwasafurry1108 Před rokem

    I’ve been getting more into the genre with series like the Kane Pixels Backrooms, which is another excellent series, but my favorite one ever is the Monument Mythos. It’s just super unique and it crosses into the alternate history genre, another genre that has been oversaturated by tropes in the mainstream. MM uses its alt history setting to make the viewer feel like they’re in a much darker world than our own, like everything’s backwards. There are monsters and other beings in there, but a lot of the tragic events are brought about by people like Dean and Rockefeller.

  • @mrcanaryyellow
    @mrcanaryyellow Před rokem +1

    It became less of a genre to explore neat ideas and more of an aesthetic, which is the case with most community led subjects. Someone here mentioned a simlar level of stagnation with Vaporwave.
    An aesthetic is often a comfortable pair of slippers that people can slide into, and those who enjoy it wish for it keep that same imagery and overall feeling whenever they consider returning.

  • @290coolkid
    @290coolkid Před 2 lety +2

    EAS Scenarios are my favorite type of analog horror, and channels hosting them are starting to grow thanks to recognition by larger youtubers such as Mutahar

  • @iCheZee
    @iCheZee Před rokem

    I think ElectricFanatic deserved a mention. Solid EAS channel and the Zombie Apocalypse video was one of the last times I've been truly disturbed and shaken by a CZcams video.