It's a non canon Edge of The Empire (Star Wars DnD) campaign that they made into a TV show, because they thought their characters were cool and thought their jokes were funny. That's why the motivations are nonsense; they are player motivations, not character motivations. And by the end of the story, the players essentially just wanted to do the cassic trope of "seduce the dragon" or in this case the sith, then play as "murder hoboes" injected with their own political ideologies with the dragon/sith as their NPC pet. That's it. How it got greenlit and a budget of 180 million dollars is a job for the lawyers, which I hope Disney doesn't drag their heels over.
From what I understand, Disney buys these shows internally. So while the total budget might reach so high as 180 million dollars, most of that money is going back into the corporation and not actual production. It also doesn't help that the writers/showrunners are not planning out their stories ahead of time, leading to lots of reshoots and last minute CGI that barely gets rendered before thrust onto a dying streaming service. Also, Food for Thought. Let's say the entire budge went into production, 180 million dollars divided by 8 episodes gets you about 20 million dollars per episode. Godzilla Minus One was made for around 12-15 million dollars. A full length feature film with CGI and practical effects, and a meaningful script about a disgraced warrior earning back his honor while battling The nightmare Kaiju. Let that sink in.
You are not alone. It is so bad I feel almost traumatized now. Sometimes I think of all the talented artists who are unemployed and barely surviving. Not only in writing but also in sets, props, fx...
Osha turns evil because she saw Qmir's dong, Mae doesn't kill Sol after 16 years dedicated to revenge because... we needed the plot to have Osha kill him at the end. 180 million to make (that we know of atm) 50 million of that was in pre-production.
They did the same thing to Obi Wan on The Reva Show… when Reva asked Obi “where were you when he was killing my friends” and Obi says nothing 😳. Sol same way… The Guys in these shows are so clueless when it comes to arguing there points.
Writers: Of course the mother was going to let Osha go, after all she assembled her entire coven with weapons drawn at them and lectured them saying the Jedi were a cold institution that was no place for a child. Only good vibes here that can not be seen as threatening whatsoever.
It's like Asoka all over again! U watch one time, to understand, u watch two times, u think WTF, u watch three times & u find many............ mistakes!
Besides a few cool visuals, and a few characters that I kinda liked, the show has been total and utter nonsense. I really wanted it to be good, and I really tried to be as open minded as possible. But the finale made it clear: They had absolutely no idea what they were doing or where they were going. The show doesn't just contradict canon and itself, it is completely illogical.
I’m confused with your comment the show had a very clear plot the most confusing part is how the presented it the Jedi went to a planet they possibly did a good thing stoping the witches but definitely did it a horrible way the main story is about how the lies of that event have consequences (the sister stuff is definitely harder to justify especially in text)
@@nathanielsaunders9815 hmm I respectfully disagree, but I guess I can kinda see what you mean. It was all handled so clumsily, and nobody acted rationally - I guess that's the best way to put it.
My whole thing is…what was the reason?! 😂 I’m not going to pretend to be a SW expert, but I know what I know and have had enough experience w the IP, good and bad, to know that this is not an SW story. I’m not convinced of Osha and Mae’s apparent relevance in the world of SW. Them dragging Yoda into really blew me. Like, what are you saying about wise old Yoda?! Why is the goal to pick apart everything RIGHT with SW? Sure he’s not perfect but he ain’t bad enough to push this cover story!
How'd they let this ish get out man where was quality assurance where were the script doctors. Where was the guy that could say "yo this ish dont make any sense!!!"
i started hysterically laughing toward the end of the last episode when i realized that this was all we where getting for a first season. i literally could not be more apathetic towards disney star wars after watching this deformed fetus of a show.
No you just went into this show wanting to not like it because it didn’t have a white male lead , this show brought in many cool things of Star Wars back into canon and even gave us really dope live action stuff that we have only ever read in comics or seen in animated form and you guys just want to cry at the fact that there were woman in Star Wars smh y’all aren’t real fans your just haters
The more you watch, the stronger you will become (assuming you survive). Not trying to paraphrase Friedrich Nietzsche here, but I hear what you're saying.
I do have to disagree with you on one point, the twins were never in danger. Sol just makes that assumption because the witches were different than Jedi. Nothing he witnesses or hears the girls say implies a true threat when you think about it. He was legit just in their business. That’s the part that’s so frustrating to watch in this show. They just say “I feel like they’re in danger!” But never show solid examples of him coming to the conclusion. Mind you this is LONG before witch mommy turning into black smoke.
Acolyte only broke the weak minded. The real ones been knew Disney was at war with us and definitely Lucas's stuff. A lot of ya'll kept having faith that Disney just had bad writing. Acolyte shows that they purposely want to destroy the Lucas part of the lore and kick out the true fans for the casuals and normies. I might watch a second season of Andor and 4th season of Mando to try to give a chance for the season 3 dud, but other than that Disney Star Wars dead to me after being a huge Star Wars fan. They do not care about the old fans at all. They just care that they have control of the property and can do whatever they want with it. They've been sent that message, it just wasn't clear as fact until now.
and to think that she wants to do a story during the knights of the old Republic era... ma'am, you've done enough damage. Kindly take a steaming pile of shit on a different franchise please. No need to beat a dead horse.
Only haters. Everyone else will just call him based Blackman. These identity weirdos today would call Malcolm X white because he loathed "foxy white liberals" lol.
I'm honestly, honestly, recommending any Power Rangers season that came out between 1998 and 2009 for better story, characters and fight scenes than this show. Seriously telling you to watch Power Rangers instead of this garbage show.
Three things that are good in this show: - Sol - Lightsaber duels (and for ONCE in Disney canon, someone DOESN'T survive being stabbed by the lightsaber) - That Darth cameo. You know the one. Yes, it's cheap. Yes, it's a season 2 begging. Yes, it's still exciting to me.
How bout that Amandla Stenberg? Your "representation" had the emotional range of a brick. Picking an actor just because shes black hurts black actors that are actually talented. Get your check box while punishing those who are talented and ambitious. The women that played Mother Anasaya was a goofy feminist. "Yas, yas!" but at least she was a decent actor. Seeing OSHA and Mae I'm the same scenes so much in Episode 8 REALLY showed how little talent Amandla Stenberg has. Freaking killed me.
😂 it’s bad but it’s kinda so bad it’s funny. But like cringe funny. The power of one the power of two the power of many plot points not making any sense
Very bad writing. Nothing makes sense whatsover. It is also disturbing that the people who made this show want you to sympathize with the Sith and see the Jedi as villains and religious zealots.
You're not alone Kaida. This show has broken all of us
This was some dollar store sci-fi channel shit with the star wars license
True and that is insulting as hell to Star Wars and its fans.
It's a non canon Edge of The Empire (Star Wars DnD) campaign that they made into a TV show, because they thought their characters were cool and thought their jokes were funny. That's why the motivations are nonsense; they are player motivations, not character motivations. And by the end of the story, the players essentially just wanted to do the cassic trope of "seduce the dragon" or in this case the sith, then play as "murder hoboes" injected with their own political ideologies with the dragon/sith as their NPC pet. That's it. How it got greenlit and a budget of 180 million dollars is a job for the lawyers, which I hope Disney doesn't drag their heels over.
From what I understand, Disney buys these shows internally. So while the total budget might reach so high as 180 million dollars, most of that money is going back into the corporation and not actual production.
It also doesn't help that the writers/showrunners are not planning out their stories ahead of time, leading to lots of reshoots and last minute CGI that barely gets rendered before thrust onto a dying streaming service.
Also, Food for Thought. Let's say the entire budge went into production, 180 million dollars divided by 8 episodes gets you about 20 million dollars per episode.
Godzilla Minus One was made for around 12-15 million dollars. A full length feature film with CGI and practical effects, and a meaningful script about a disgraced warrior earning back his honor while battling The nightmare Kaiju.
Let that sink in.
I'm convinced Disney is evil
8:09 thats not Darth Plagueis that is Abe from the Oddworld games
I understood that reference
You are not alone. It is so bad I feel almost traumatized now. Sometimes I think of all the talented artists who are unemployed and barely surviving. Not only in writing but also in sets, props, fx...
The video explaining shit and trying to answer questions would take longer than the actual time the show in its entirety gives us.
not at all. y'all just close off your brains and hate for the sake of hating. no logic or media literacy
Osha turns evil because she saw Qmir's dong, Mae doesn't kill Sol after 16 years dedicated to revenge because... we needed the plot to have Osha kill him at the end.
180 million to make (that we know of atm) 50 million of that was in pre-production.
You made use of two virtues in your analysis that the series itself was embarrassingly lacking; clarity and logic. Huzzah!,
They did the same thing to Obi Wan on The Reva Show… when Reva asked Obi “where were you when he was killing my friends” and Obi says nothing 😳. Sol same way… The Guys in these shows are so clueless when it comes to arguing there points.
why did you have to remind me that existed. CURSE YOU RANDOM INTERNET DWELLER
Writers: Of course the mother was going to let Osha go, after all she assembled her entire coven with weapons drawn at them and lectured them saying the Jedi were a cold institution that was no place for a child. Only good vibes here that can not be seen as threatening whatsoever.
Star Wars has been dead ever since George Lucas sold the rights to Disney. 1977-2012 RIP
Oh, for the love of god, please accept you're the reason for getting us into this mess in the first place, numbnut.
It's like Asoka all over again! U watch one time, to understand, u watch two times, u think WTF, u watch three times & u find many............ mistakes!
imagine letting a show that's actually all right with an easy to follow narrative "bReAk YoU"
180 Million Dollar wattpad fanfiction.
The Acolyte was part of the reason behind cutting Andor down to just 2 seasons. Why Disney why?
Besides a few cool visuals, and a few characters that I kinda liked, the show has been total and utter nonsense. I really wanted it to be good, and I really tried to be as open minded as possible. But the finale made it clear: They had absolutely no idea what they were doing or where they were going. The show doesn't just contradict canon and itself, it is completely illogical.
I’m confused with your comment the show had a very clear plot the most confusing part is how the presented it the Jedi went to a planet they possibly did a good thing stoping the witches but definitely did it a horrible way the main story is about how the lies of that event have consequences (the sister stuff is definitely harder to justify especially in text)
@@nathanielsaunders9815 hmm I respectfully disagree, but I guess I can kinda see what you mean. It was all handled so clumsily, and nobody acted rationally - I guess that's the best way to put it.
So tired of idiots saying it changed cannon. No. It. Didn't. Saying it changed cannon proves your low IQ. They change anything about anyones cannon
This is why I stopped watching it, I reached the lesbian witches episode and said I'm out... glad my sanity is intact and I didn't miss anything...
Same. Broke me as well!
I don't even want to pirate it to see what the fuss is about, that's how bad I know this all is
My whole thing is…what was the reason?! 😂
I’m not going to pretend to be a SW expert, but I know what I know and have had enough experience w the IP, good and bad, to know that this is not an SW story. I’m not convinced of Osha and Mae’s apparent relevance in the world of SW.
Them dragging Yoda into really blew me. Like, what are you saying about wise old Yoda?! Why is the goal to pick apart everything RIGHT with SW? Sure he’s not perfect but he ain’t bad enough to push this cover story!
If I didn’t work I probably wouldn’t have watch this it was my work show
This series is way over this guy's head.
Emotional Damage.
Idk how that ship makes sense either, truly a avatar kora moment 😂
I honestly don’t understand why people are trying to defend it.
Lmao 😂😂😂 how did you actually sit through it... damn.
Rip Disney star wars
How'd they let this ish get out man where was quality assurance where were the script doctors. Where was the guy that could say "yo this ish dont make any sense!!!"
That asteroid field scene was crazy how the hell did they survive that
i started hysterically laughing toward the end of the last episode when i realized that this was all we where getting for a first season. i literally could not be more apathetic towards disney star wars after watching this deformed fetus of a show.
had me DYING insta SUB
😔
Agree 100%
We wanted a star wars show, but we got a "base on the director's lesbian life" instead. That's why it makes no sense.
Facts!!!!
A lot of sensible people in these comments
No you just went into this show wanting to not like it because it didn’t have a white male lead , this show brought in many cool things of Star Wars back into canon and even gave us really dope live action stuff that we have only ever read in comics or seen in animated form and you guys just want to cry at the fact that there were woman in Star Wars smh y’all aren’t real fans your just haters
it's so bad it makes the book of boba fett look good
The more you watch, the stronger you will become (assuming you survive). Not trying to paraphrase Friedrich Nietzsche here, but I hear what you're saying.
I do have to disagree with you on one point, the twins were never in danger. Sol just makes that assumption because the witches were different than Jedi. Nothing he witnesses or hears the girls say implies a true threat when you think about it. He was legit just in their business. That’s the part that’s so frustrating to watch in this show. They just say “I feel like they’re in danger!” But never show solid examples of him coming to the conclusion. Mind you this is LONG before witch mommy turning into black smoke.
Acolyte only broke the weak minded. The real ones been knew Disney was at war with us and definitely Lucas's stuff. A lot of ya'll kept having faith that Disney just had bad writing. Acolyte shows that they purposely want to destroy the Lucas part of the lore and kick out the true fans for the casuals and normies. I might watch a second season of Andor and 4th season of Mando to try to give a chance for the season 3 dud, but other than that Disney Star Wars dead to me after being a huge Star Wars fan.
They do not care about the old fans at all. They just care that they have control of the property and can do whatever they want with it. They've been sent that message, it just wasn't clear as fact until now.
I Agree.
It crazy how angry y'all are while being so deluded. 😂
The Acolyte is better than this guy is telling you. The show was not hard to follow.
and to think that she wants to do a story during the knights of the old Republic era... ma'am, you've done enough damage. Kindly take a steaming pile of shit on a different franchise please. No need to beat a dead horse.
chill bro they gon say u white or sum
Only haters. Everyone else will just call him based Blackman. These identity weirdos today would call Malcolm X white because he loathed "foxy white liberals" lol.
I'm honestly, honestly, recommending any Power Rangers season that came out between 1998 and 2009 for better story, characters and fight scenes than this show. Seriously telling you to watch Power Rangers instead of this garbage show.
Three things that are good in this show:
- Sol
- Lightsaber duels (and for ONCE in Disney canon, someone DOESN'T survive being stabbed by the lightsaber)
- That Darth cameo. You know the one. Yes, it's cheap. Yes, it's a season 2 begging. Yes, it's still exciting to me.
How bout that Amandla Stenberg? Your "representation" had the emotional range of a brick. Picking an actor just because shes black hurts black actors that are actually talented. Get your check box while punishing those who are talented and ambitious.
The women that played Mother Anasaya was a goofy feminist. "Yas, yas!" but at least she was a decent actor. Seeing OSHA and Mae I'm the same scenes so much in Episode 8 REALLY showed how little talent Amandla Stenberg has. Freaking killed me.
I wonder if the only thing keeping you going is the edge you get for 300 views and comments from incels who lack media literacy 😭
😂 it’s bad but it’s kinda so bad it’s funny. But like cringe funny. The power of one the power of two the power of many plot points not making any sense
Very bad writing. Nothing makes sense whatsover.
It is also disturbing that the people who made this show want you to sympathize with the Sith and see the Jedi as villains and religious zealots.
I am old "ship' was it that, I hear it said alot?