What a Medieval Duel Really Looked Like

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    The magnificent age of knights, bards, and sprawling kingdoms. We focus today on the bloody, messy reality of judicial duels or trials by combat. Among its most renowned practitioners were Jean de Carrouges and Jacques Le Gris of “The Last Duel” fame.
    Today, the knights Guy of Steenvoorde and Herman the Iron square off in a savage duel...only one will leave with their manhood intact.
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    SOURCES
    “The Centerfold: Guy of Steenvoorde versus Iron Herman.” Medieval Warfare, vol. 7, no. 5, Karwansaray BV, 2017, pp. 29-31, www.jstor.org/stable/48578120.
    Bruges, Galbert of. The Murder of Charles the Good. Translated by James B Ross, Medieval Academy of America, 1982, Archive.org, archive.org/details/murderofc....
    Janin, Hunt. Medieval Justice: Cases and Laws in France, England and Germany, 500-1500. McFarland, 2009.

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    • @shanef6069
      @shanef6069 Před 2 lety +1

      Invicta

    • @kernsr1859
      @kernsr1859 Před 2 lety +1

      Historia civilis the goat simply for his voice

    • @wahyuadyn6302
      @wahyuadyn6302 Před 2 lety +3

      Please add english subtitles

    • @1337wafflezz
      @1337wafflezz Před 2 lety

      aaaaaand that’s why you wear a codpiece

    • @dgaudet7343
      @dgaudet7343 Před 2 lety

      please find a job this is just shit you are makeing

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    @remainprofane7732 Před 2 lety +13292

    There’s hitting rock bottom, then there’s going from “vindicated by God” to “balls ripped off” in the span of a minute

    • @arthuryeh7353
      @arthuryeh7353 Před 2 lety +139

      fallen london

    • @Ottocide
      @Ottocide Před 2 lety +212

      Oh this hit my funny bone a little too hard. Bravo sir!

    • @Ryuga-2015
      @Ryuga-2015 Před 2 lety +197

      @@Ottocide I read your comment too fast, and I thought you said “this shit my funny bone.”

    • @Ottocide
      @Ottocide Před 2 lety +62

      @@Ryuga-2015 that arguably would have been funnier

    • @aquariandawn4750
      @aquariandawn4750 Před 2 lety +12

      He should have stayed quiet...

  • @dwighthayes4738
    @dwighthayes4738 Před 2 lety +12353

    It's ironic to me that lately this is something that's crossed my mind often. I recently had an accident that sent a 3 inch blade through my wrist. It cut to the bone, severing my radial artery, muscle tissue and a major tendon. I've been hurt before but this time it required 4 hours of surgery. My recovery has been great. However it has made me ponder the gruesome levels of injury and handicaps that would result from such injuries considering the lack of medical advancement in the medieval era.

    • @logansaxby7224
      @logansaxby7224 Před 2 lety +889

      Glad you're ok.

    • @dwighthayes4738
      @dwighthayes4738 Před 2 lety +689

      @@logansaxby7224 I'm coming along nicely. Thank you. I appreciate that.

    • @elliotgregory3356
      @elliotgregory3356 Před 2 lety +838

      Chances are the wounded winners died of infection or bloodloss. Get well soon

    • @wattyler9806
      @wattyler9806 Před 2 lety +631

      There are some instances of first rate medical attention in the middle ages. But loads of wounded must have died from infection. One outstanding case of success was when Henry the future King Henry the v was fighting in Wales he was shot in the face with an arrow his surgeon made a device to extract the arrow head out of metal. And close the wound without any infection. A truly remarkable story I recommend looking it up on CZcams. I think there is a video about it.

    • @elliotgregory3356
      @elliotgregory3356 Před 2 lety +75

      @@wattyler9806 Really? That's worth a look. Thank you.

  • @aniquinstark4347
    @aniquinstark4347 Před 2 lety +1092

    In high school I got really into longsword dueling (blunt polymer training swords of course) with a couple friends based on medieval texts by Fiore dei Liberi. It was pretty eye opening to see that no matter how much we studied and trained, every match was still over in less than a minute, usually less than 30 seconds. You get a tiny fraction of a second to decide whether to block, parry, or dodge an attack and immediately have to execute your plan or get whacked. It's really no wonder those people were trained from early childhood because a 4 foot long sword is an exceptionally effective weapon with a steep learning curve.

    • @anotherhistoryenthusiast5874
      @anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 Před 2 lety +21

      If you spar with others on the same level you won't develope.

    • @korosuke1788
      @korosuke1788 Před rokem +148

      It only lasted 30 seconds because you yielded. If you had actually tried to murder each other you'd have found, to your horror, that human beings are extremely hard to incapacitate or kill. I have seen people trying to kill each other with fists and the resulting show is shocking. The most disconcerting part is that you can see someone covered in blood and bruises make a full recovery after a month. We are the sons and daughters of men who fought for survival for millenia. We are all much, much stronger than what you imagine.

    • @tacklefatkids1195
      @tacklefatkids1195 Před rokem +13

      @@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 massive cap that's the ONLY way you develop

    • @anotherhistoryenthusiast5874
      @anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 Před rokem +4

      @@tacklefatkids1195 So you are saying that you develop by learning from those who does not know better than you?

    • @tacklefatkids1195
      @tacklefatkids1195 Před rokem +12

      @@anotherhistoryenthusiast5874 I thought you meant fighting those less skilled than you. My apologies

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    @jamesvopni2458 Před 2 lety +1471

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  • @ProgrammedForDamage
    @ProgrammedForDamage Před 2 lety +499

    The King, with Timothée Chalamet, really made me think of the brutality of medieval combat. They exhausted themselves early and then the fight ended with both armoured figures going to ground, writhing in the mud and trying to choke the life out of the other.

    • @FiikusMaximus
      @FiikusMaximus Před 2 lety +70

      One thing where the film diverged from reality (understandably so) is that they chose slender Timothy Chalamet for Henry V. He was big.
      In a duel, you'd be seeing two ironclad giants clash upon each other. Medieval knights were like thoroughbread horses. They were raised to be killing machines on the battlefield. It must've been quite a sight back in the day.

    • @wandarah
      @wandarah Před rokem +19

      @@FiikusMaximus He was of a pretty average build at the time. He got real big in his middle to later ages.

    • @jacksteel1539
      @jacksteel1539 Před rokem +29

      @@FiikusMaximus They were pretty normal men just quite athletic and strong compared to your average person today, a lot of people were slender and not everyone was built big

    • @korosuke1788
      @korosuke1788 Před rokem +17

      @@FiikusMaximus Yeah, this. Imagine rugby players with swords. Also, imagine them being brutes convinced that God favours the strong and also being of noble birth. Not exactly the kind of man you'd like to have near you when drinking.

    • @marcoroberts9462
      @marcoroberts9462 Před rokem +4

      @@korosuke1788 yes but there was also a semi permanent food shortage due so men really did not grow especially tall at the time

  • @TheHIOJK
    @TheHIOJK Před 2 lety +481

    "The Last Duel" was an awesome movie that I think portrayed the brutality of a medieval duel rather well

    • @partydean17
      @partydean17 Před 2 lety +14

      Interesting that they reference the same winning attack in that movie. A weird coincidence or they added that in as they felt it captured the banal violence to what was being played up as a righteous duel.

    • @David_Fellner
      @David_Fellner Před 2 lety +31

      @@partydean17 This probably wasn't the only time a knight was downed in that way. Their armor had very few weaknesses, and that was one of 'em.

    • @sensur1
      @sensur1 Před 2 lety +72

      My gripe with The Last duel is that once again, medieval europe is depicted as drab, colorless and dirty when the complete opposite was the fact.

    • @partydean17
      @partydean17 Před 2 lety +4

      @@David_Fellner is it for horse riding purposes that a codpiece or what we consider a cup would not be viable. Boxers don't wear any armour but this is one thing you for sure protect

    • @David_Fellner
      @David_Fellner Před 2 lety +4

      @@partydean17 I don't really know. I'm no expert on the subject, but my guess would be that any kind of solid protection down there would hamper movement to the point where you were safer without any. I hadn't even considered their effects on riding horses, but now that your mention it it would make sense if armored codpieces were less common among mounted soldiers.

  • @thatcherthomas5113
    @thatcherthomas5113 Před 2 lety +4331

    At the start of the duel I really wasn’t too shocked. But then when Herman summoned that last bit of strength to RIP GUY’S BALLS OFF, I was shocked. The fact that everyone thought Guy had won just for him to be defeated by a guy who was thought to be dead is amazing. It gives me such Game of Thrones vibes, especially the Mountain vs the Red Viper. Wish there was a movie based on this, not just the duel but also the murder of Charles. All around outstanding video

    • @davokelly7876
      @davokelly7876 Před 2 lety +91

      Thats what came to mind for me even though its a work of fiction/fantasy... viper should have let his spear do the talking and kept his distance. We all know what happened from taunting and looking for a confession 💪🦵👐 🤯

    • @NjamNjam0
      @NjamNjam0 Před 2 lety +163

      Dang that's what I was thinking too. Having your skull shattered with the use of hands is the only thing that can be compared to the duel that was talked about in this video. George Martin himself alledgedly said that "No matter what I write, history is always worse."

    • @lasko24
      @lasko24 Před 2 lety +40

      You can go from winning a fight to losing very quick I'm sure its happened in boxing many times where one guy is beating the hell out of the other only to have the one getting beat get lucky enough to land a solid punch and KOing the guy who was winning.

    • @jonathanlee5314
      @jonathanlee5314 Před 2 lety +26

      @@NjamNjam0 Have read some history, can confirm. Particularly once you get beyond the Crimean and Civil Wars and warfare became industrialized and mechanized, yeah, big time.

    • @mistertea4487
      @mistertea4487 Před 2 lety +3

      I laughed when he said he threw him. Had an image of a sort of shoulder throw but the guys balls detached mid swing

  • @TimZoet
    @TimZoet Před 2 lety +996

    I felt the duel in The King was very realistic. There wasn't any spectacle or amazing stunts pulled, it was just an awkward fight. A fight between two young men, struggling and slow. It was dull and tense at the same time. I love that scene

    • @asimian8500
      @asimian8500 Před 2 lety +24

      Getting your testicles crushed doesn't make it "dull". I would say it was an incredible come back and probably one of the most exciting battles that many of the knights who attended had ever seen. The fight was pretty much one sided until Guy started taunting instead of finishing off Herman. Any other warrior would have skewered Herman with the lance and gotten it over with. There was no way that Herman would have evaded a lance thrust to the body were Guy more serious.

    • @ludwigstenberg1050
      @ludwigstenberg1050 Před 2 lety +145

      @@asimian8500 He isn't referring to the fight between Guy and Herman but the one in a movie named 'The King'.

    • @marcocortes9968
      @marcocortes9968 Před 2 lety +27

      Dude, I literally saw that movie and for some reason the fight scenes just captived my mind. It really has made curious on how fights were like back then. The fights scenes seemed so realistic. It is one of my dreams to see someone make The story of King David, but with that level of detail in the battles that he took place in.

    • @velorn8927
      @velorn8927 Před rokem

      Typical hollywood bullshit

    • @timdavy93
      @timdavy93 Před rokem +3

      Matt Damon isn't a young man anymore lol

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  • @TrashPanda5150
    @TrashPanda5150 Před 2 lety +40

    This is like when I'm reading a good book and these are the images my mind conjures from the wonderful and brutal descriptions. Draws me into the narrative as if I am an active participant. Well done, History Dose!

  • @snowman4313
    @snowman4313 Před 2 lety +2556

    Holy cow that was brutal, no wonder why that age was considered one of the darkest times of humanity

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. Před 2 lety +370

      The early modern period (16th-17th centuries) was not much better. In fact it got generally worse in many of the issues we associate with the 'darkness' of the middle ages, like the poor hygiene, believe in magic and especially the witch hunts. Paradoxically one of the main signs of progress - printing and increased literacy contributed to it. Kinda like today, when the internet does wonders for the spread of information and ideas but it also includes misinformation and misguided ideas.

    • @ManiacMayhem7256
      @ManiacMayhem7256 Před 2 lety +145

      This was after the dark ages (410-1091). Also ancient times were no less brutal lol

    • @wojak6351
      @wojak6351 Před 2 lety +45

      Actually only the early middle ages are refered to as the dark ages 500-900 the rest of medieval was not a dark age 900-1400

    • @ViktoriousDead
      @ViktoriousDead Před 2 lety +135

      @@ManiacMayhem7256 there’s no such thing as “the dark ages”

    • @ManiacMayhem7256
      @ManiacMayhem7256 Před 2 lety +10

      @@ViktoriousDead not true. They did exist, just they weren't a thousand years. I recommend you read Bryan Ward Perkins and watch the fire of learning video

  • @vanlooney2012
    @vanlooney2012 Před 2 lety +61

    Herman really used the “5 on 2” technique

    • @TonyBMW
      @TonyBMW Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ooohhh 😂

    • @lornmalvo2541
      @lornmalvo2541 Před 6 dny

      OMG I'M FUCKING DEAD! Thanks for giving me a really good laugh!

  • @arnaudmarechal760
    @arnaudmarechal760 Před rokem +35

    I studied medieval law in Belgium and I am glad to see the trials by ordeal and a small yet very interesting part of Belgian history being depicted in a concise and truthful manner. Great video!

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    @joshwine4081 Před rokem +1

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  • @thegreatgadsby4233
    @thegreatgadsby4233 Před 2 lety +368

    The art and storytelling in this is absolutely excellent

  • @bradstev14
    @bradstev14 Před 2 lety +941

    As a PhD in medieval literature, I'd recommend reading some of the romance material that contain duels. Sir Gareth of Orkney in Le Morte Darthur is especially interesting in this regard, as is the tale of Sir Balin and SIr Balan. They are equal parts brutal as poetically beautiful, and steeped in the traditions and beliefs that underpin the motivations of those whom engage in duels.

    • @asimian8500
      @asimian8500 Před 2 lety +16

      Read Hans Talhoffer's "Medieval Combat" a treatise on dueling. It can be found online. What makes this 15th Century book amazing are the pictures which show duels between armored/unarmored using weapons, clubs, and shield. It also includes combat between men and women. Men were handicapped by being placed in a pit as the video stated. Talhoffer could be hired to train for duels. Evidently he had a great track record and was highly sought after. Talhoffer was even a judge at one point. The Germanic tradition of dueling did not end with the Middle Ages, as it continued into the 19th Century, using foils/epees and flintlock pistols.

    • @Mgalacticable
      @Mgalacticable Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you, sir.

    • @anderrall1925
      @anderrall1925 Před 2 lety +1

      Middle easterners and turks were better duelists in general compared to europeans

    • @bradstev14
      @bradstev14 Před 2 lety +49

      @@anderrall1925 Kind of an empty statement, i'm afraid. The Middle East is a vast area of many cultures that has seen repeated rapid shifts in cultural practices and traditions, especially during the era in question; Europe too is subject to this. In fact, this statement seems strongly reminiscent of notions born of the occidental fascination with the orient that Edward Said broke down in his excellent book 'Orientalism', which I recommend.
      So firstly, laying down any kind of a statement of fact as 'generally' true, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You will see very little of this in academic writing, and only then in very specific circumstances with parameters under much greater control.
      Secondly, direct comparisons are pretty useless, especially for the establishment of statements of general rule. This is exacerbated further by the fact that both the Middle East and Europe are made up of scores of cultural communities, that rapidly transform, and not necessarily in tandem. Whose combat traditions should we take as representative of their entire geopolitical local? Which dualists should we accept as representative as an average for their group against which the standard should be measured? Making comparisons between the two in generalities such as this is pretty much nonsense.
      There's also the individualist aspect of this afare to consider. one dualist may be better than another, but their homeland only has so much of a say in that; in that one culture may prioritize ritualistic combat ability higher than another. Much of it would come down to their familiarity with both their own styles and equipment and each others, individual experience, location, weather, diet, rest, etc.
      This is just some of the issues with this statement. That being said, don't take this as a rebuke, but rather as constructive criticism. I'm sure there's plenty of vivid accounts of duels between Europeans and Middle Easterners and such that will liven your research.

    • @anderrall1925
      @anderrall1925 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bradstev14 if that is not the truth regardless of what, them why did turks and arabs wearing smaller Shields and light armor such as leather or a thin mail and many withouth armor as seen in some egyptian fatimid troops and such and be and won astounding victories mora often than not against knights clad in mail, plate pieces in some areas and padding underneath which confers massive advanatage in combat?? Id call a fairly big difference in swordfighting skill counting for those wins

  • @wangdangler5273
    @wangdangler5273 Před 2 lety +8

    I slammed that sub button within the first 30 seconds, this was more than just a historical video. This was art of the highest degree. The commentary was as divine as the beliefs of the knights themselves. Just fantastic!

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    @br7dd Před rokem +1

    such amazingly high quality videos. it’s been months since i watched this and i still think back to it. great work to everyone involved.

  • @VoicesofthePast
    @VoicesofthePast Před 2 lety +91

    Great stuff

  • @andreascovano7742
    @andreascovano7742 Před 2 lety +593

    I just watched the last duel and I believe that they went with the wrong interpretation based on american source material .
    So I spent some time reading some primary and secondary sources in French (all from before the 20th century to avoid biased bullcrap like Jager) and came to the conclusion he didn't do it, which seems to be the consensus among sources that talk about the case.
    Basically, the most likely scenario is that the woman was indeed raped, but not by Le Gris.
    She told her husband when he came back home from Scotland and he used that to shit on Le Gris that he had been hating for a few years due to envying him for various political reasons.
    It must be noted that Carrouges was an extremely violent man who had apparently beaten his first wife to death. And his second wife, Marguerite, wasn't an old stronk woman like in the movie but actually a meek and very young woman.
    So basically Carrouges forced her to frame Le Gris and despite Le Gris being found innocent in several trials, he managed to obtain a duel by whining directly to the King's parliament.
    While on the ground and about to be finished by Carrouges, Le Gris swore his innocence (instead of confessing like people usually did before execution) with God as his witness.
    Several sources mention that some years later, a man sentenced to death for another crime confessed before his execution to be the one who had actually raped Marguerite de Carrouges.
    It's also mentioned that after her husband's death, she spent the rest of her life in a convent instead of remarrying (despite being still young) to attone for the fact she had framed an innocent.
    Source: That 1858 French history work on the topic on judiciary duels in France, that uses all the contemporary sources that treated the topic (Froissart, Jean Le Coq, Juvénal des Ursins, Chronique de St-Denis)
    If you can read French (page 128 to page 148):
    www.google.fr/books/edition/Le_Combat_judiciaire_en_Normandie/H1hiAAAAcAAJ?hl=fr&gbpv=1&dq=%22Jacques+le+Gris%22&printsec=frontcover

    • @RedwihteGame
      @RedwihteGame Před 2 lety +26

      Interesting, thank you for sharing!

    • @rmmm6725
      @rmmm6725 Před 2 lety +34

      You mean Hollywood got it wrong!?!? Say it ain’t so

    • @mattilatvala4164
      @mattilatvala4164 Před 2 lety +14

      And it was on foot, not jousting. And no fantasy LOTR helmets.

    • @rmmm6725
      @rmmm6725 Před 2 lety +11

      @@mattilatvala4164 no they started jousting. One guy got the other off his horse and then taunted him. The guy that fell was able to stab the horse and got the upper hand. He pounded him into the ground and tried to get the guy to confess but he never did.

    • @SuccessforLifester
      @SuccessforLifester Před 2 lety

      I watched the film too. Thanks for sharing.

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  • @GodsThirdEye
    @GodsThirdEye Před 2 lety +314

    there's a movie called "The last duel" by Ridley Scott based on a true story. The duel itself is the most realistic I've seen in a movie.

    • @augustin5611
      @augustin5611 Před 2 lety +9

      A really good movie.

    • @yeastofthoughtsmind9623
      @yeastofthoughtsmind9623 Před 2 lety +21

      Interesting. Ridley Scott's directorial debut was a movie called 'The Duellists', which was based on a true story in which two men dueled each other to a draw 17 times over the course of two decades.
      That movie and "The Deluge" have the most realistic swordplay I've seen in film. Both are quite good movies too. I had no idea Scott had directed another film about duels though, so ill have to give 'The Last Duel' a watch.

    • @wolfensniper4012
      @wolfensniper4012 Před 2 lety +9

      @@yeastofthoughtsmind9623 I think people should realize that they should not bring up films that involved 17-19th century smallswords while Comparing them with Medieval duels with longsword and armour because it's purely meaningless. And people who interested in medieval combat could learn absolutely zero from smallsword duels because They're completely different combat systems with no inheritance.

    • @swingthatthing
      @swingthatthing Před 2 lety

      @@yeastofthoughtsmind9623 damn I might check those out can't remember if I've seen them

    • @KingOfWinter
      @KingOfWinter Před 2 lety +1

      bloodclotbroccoli Def watch “the duelist” if you haven’t seen it it is a really good story. I was looking the true story up for days after I watched that movie lol

  • @sovietred7371
    @sovietred7371 Před 2 lety +57

    I was going to say "show him mercy" but then I was quickly reminded how the other does not care for mercy as he literally broke the man's balls in his hands... It truely is a world where the merciful get killed

  • @Malhaheifnrifbwkmq
    @Malhaheifnrifbwkmq Před 2 lety +1

    Never thought I could find these type of subjects interesting. But you make me so invested in them! Great job.

  • @michaelwright3332
    @michaelwright3332 Před rokem +7

    At The age of 40 I would know longer consider myself an athlete. When I was younger and throughout my college years I practice a lot a full contact martial arts. Western boxing, kickboxing, Grappling, Judo etc…. The coffee shop I worked out during my college years was owned by a gentleman who was very large practitioner of H.E.M.A. ( Historical European Martial Arts). My friend, later became a full-fledged MMA fighter and owns a gym teaching people fitness and different forms, it myself agreed to try it out. We put on leather armor and metal helmets, and proceeded to have the worst beatings I have EVER RECEIVED. I was left so black and blue all over that I could not even take a shower or a bath because the water hitting my skin was excruciating. My friend who owns the gym also agrees that out of all the forms he’s ever tried and perfected, that was the most brutal. No words can describe what it feels like to have your “Bell Rung” by a “rap shot “. Pretty much get hit in the head with a wooden dowel while wearing a metal helmet. It knocks you senseless in a way that you were unable to think or react for at least 30 seconds to a minute. I only did it three times but it was the most BRUTAL training I have ever experienced.

    • @aczeartk7032
      @aczeartk7032 Před rokem

      I really want to try my luck at that medieval mma festival, it looks exhilarating!

  • @Whoisthiskid1
    @Whoisthiskid1 Před 2 lety +244

    The duel scene in The King did a great job at portraying how gruesome and tiring it would be to fight in armor

    • @forsaken.cowboy
      @forsaken.cowboy Před 2 lety +12

      That movie is brilliant

    • @GiskardRevenlov
      @GiskardRevenlov Před 2 lety +23

      @@forsaken.cowboy eh, lotta issues armor and technique wise, as well as historical accuracy and army size/location

    • @tridonstrident6785
      @tridonstrident6785 Před 2 lety +15

      Plate armor wasn't tiring to the users, who would train since the age of 7 to properly use it. Didn't restrict mobility at all, either.

    • @GiskardRevenlov
      @GiskardRevenlov Před 2 lety +26

      @@tridonstrident6785 it did and it does, I've worn plenty of plate armor and sparred in it. While it's nowhere near as restrictive as most people think, it's not without it's limitations. Anyone is going to tire faster with 80 LBS of metal attached to them, especially while you're getting bashed left and right.

    • @tridonstrident6785
      @tridonstrident6785 Před 2 lety +13

      @@GiskardRevenlov I did exaggerate a bit - I mostly just meant that plate armor isn't nearly as tiring as people make it out to be (people can do cartwheels in it, after all). Also, I thought plate armor only weighed 30-60 pounds on average?

  • @kevinstachovak8842
    @kevinstachovak8842 Před rokem +75

    Actually, throwing one's weapon aside to engage an enemy in mano a mano happened and still happens more than one would expect. We aren't too terribly dissimilar to chest-beating gorillas, after all

    • @cardboardbox191
      @cardboardbox191 Před rokem

      Maybe but in this case it might have been the most effective way to kill the enemy rather than chest beating.

    • @Ucho469
      @Ucho469 Před rokem +2

      I guess at some point a 30 pound sword becomes unbereable and usrless after all the adrenaline rush and the feeling of burning lungs while you gasp for air to keep the most valuable pthing you have: your life, while trying to keep it un

    • @jungoder1085
      @jungoder1085 Před rokem +6

      @@Ucho469 bro 30lbs long swords were usually around 1.5kg about 3.5lbs arming swords about 1kg or 2.2lbs 30lbs like man full plate was like 40-60lbs

    • @DylanJo123
      @DylanJo123 Před rokem +2

      @@Ucho469 im going to assume that was a typo and u meant to say 3 pound sword

    • @catocall7323
      @catocall7323 Před 9 měsíci

      They were armored which is why it got to grappling, if they had not been armored it would be most likely someone would have suffered a decisive sword wound rather quick.

  • @jaybadhorse5096
    @jaybadhorse5096 Před 2 lety

    Among the top 3 history channels on CZcams. Every aspect is just fantastic. Thank you sir

  • @harrisonjara9210
    @harrisonjara9210 Před 2 lety +94

    Just found this channel. The art and narration is beyond any other channel I've seen. Great job guys keep up the great work

    • @azadog1233
      @azadog1233 Před 2 lety +1

      ill just like this comment, sums up my thoughts exactly

  • @Venbjerg1
    @Venbjerg1 Před 2 lety +69

    I don’t understand why you only have 100k subs ! You deserve much more.

  • @ReysaAdam
    @ReysaAdam Před 2 lety +3

    Another channel worth subscribing! the artstyle and presentation in the video is soo unique and cool, loved it! great work guys

  • @vection2249
    @vection2249 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! Thanks for putting this together. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @trevorslinkard31
    @trevorslinkard31 Před 2 lety +99

    Every KCD OG knows that every medieval duel starts with “Look! Henry has come to see us!”

    • @djinnxx7050
      @djinnxx7050 Před 2 lety +20

      And ends with "I'm starting to feel a little hungry.".

    • @kindacruise
      @kindacruise Před 2 lety +8

      God be with you henry!

    • @naughtiusmaximus5057
      @naughtiusmaximus5057 Před 2 lety +2

      Sadly despite me being Bailiff of Privyslavitz and son of Lord Radjowitz, people still greet me with "Good God look at the state of you! Did you lose your new clothes?"

    • @sugoi9680
      @sugoi9680 Před rokem +1

      @@naughtiusmaximus5057 I am also annoyed more people don't refer to me as bailiff. I got thrown out of the rathaus one time can you believe it ?!?!

  • @sum_andres31
    @sum_andres31 Před 2 lety +42

    Narration and imagery was so immersing, this is really impressive

  • @TheGoldenboyo
    @TheGoldenboyo Před rokem +6

    I remember being on a tour of York recently and we passed a large stone monument where the tour guide casually said “this is where the public disemboweling punishments took place before the criminals were hanged and quartered and their heads placed on spikes over the city gate.” Was almost impossible to grasp that this literally took place in such a quaint and pleasant English city and all sanctioned by the government. Crazy.

  • @alexisblackheart565
    @alexisblackheart565 Před 2 lety +3

    Just subscribed, was looking for a good history channel and your guys is just incredible!

  • @Leondegrance2
    @Leondegrance2 Před 2 lety +19

    Note to self: disable arms of opponent to not get balls ripped off at end of fight. Thanks video.

  • @edmundkempersdartboard173
    @edmundkempersdartboard173 Před 2 lety +92

    I love movie sword fights. All these graceful parries and blocks until one person lands a clean thrust and the loser dies instantly when the reality wasn't much different from a random street fight today. How we have managed to romanticize the brutality of it is pretty gross actually.

    • @XBLGR
      @XBLGR Před 2 lety +27

      An armed street fight with 0 rules or limitations that nobody is allowed to stop under any circumstances is a horrifying idea, dude got his balls ripped off, that's some Live leak shit

    • @theparadigmshift74
      @theparadigmshift74 Před 2 lety +5

      Have you seen the King on netflix? One of my favorites they did a great job with the realistic combat

    • @XBLGR
      @XBLGR Před 2 lety +9

      ​@@theparadigmshift74
      yes absolutely brilliant film, the duel between Henry and Percy was almost claustrophobic.
      just two dudes, exhaustedly panting while they overheat in their plate armour as they desperately fumble over each other struggling to get a foothold and do any from of damage, even resorting to simply getting on top of the other and beating them into submission while crushing them with their weight.
      and the kill itself was so....unceremonial, no last words, no declaration from the victor, no cheers from the spectating armies, just a knife sliding under chainmail followed by a pained grunt and the sound of a person choking on their own blood.
      and no celebration after, just Henry catching his breath as he stumbles onto his feet clutching a blood stained dagger in front of a sombre audience.
      *chef's kiss*

  • @scormz624
    @scormz624 Před 2 lety

    This is personally one of my favorite channels. Love the content

  • @brazmann9571
    @brazmann9571 Před rokem +3

    New to this channel. Love the narration and artwork used in your videos, and the grisly details that gives a peak of what life was like back then.

  • @scholasticschool3187
    @scholasticschool3187 Před 2 lety +152

    The term "Dark Ages" was first used by Francesco Petrarch, a 14th century Italian humanist. Then, the term was inflated during the 18th to 19th century Europe. But modern historians rejected that the 5th to 15th was "Dark." Only the Fall of Rome is referred as the Dark Ages and not the following centuries.
    Here some books about the "Medieval Ages" that were written by professional historians: How the West Won, Medieval Machine, Medieval Technology and Social Change, Medieval Religion and Technology, Feudal Society volume 1and 2, Life in a Medieval Village, Life in a Medieval City, Life in a Medieval Castle, Women in The Medieval Ages, God and Reason in the Medieval Ages, God's Philosophers; and Cathedral, Forge, and Waterwheel.

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 Před 2 lety +13

      Ive never heard anyone say the middle ages/medieval period was 'dark'.
      The European Dark Age has always been the period between the end of the Western Roman empire and the start of the medieval period - normally defined by the (re) introduction of central government, mostly in the form of monarchies, throughout the continent.

    • @scholasticschool3187
      @scholasticschool3187 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Debbiebabe69 The narrator, maybe, did not mention the term "Dark Ages" in the video. However, the animations that were depicted in the video portrayed dark.

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 Před 2 lety +1

      @Sunbro lol I have never known anyone refer to the dark ages as spanning right up to the Renaissance...
      Its always been considered from the fall of the WRE until the establishment of the monarchy in most of Western Europe... which was the mid 800s in both England and France.

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 Před 2 lety

      @Sunbro UK

    • @Debbiebabe69
      @Debbiebabe69 Před 2 lety

      @Sunbro Ahh makes sense then... the monarchistic ages of both our countries started around the same time (mid 850s), but here apart from the Civil War era, the monarchy was generally held in high esteem.
      The term 'dark ages' however is generally used to highlight an era when there was NO central government, while most Western European countries had established governments in the medieval period (however much they were liked or not).

  • @anthony2384
    @anthony2384 Před 2 lety +58

    Just what I needed to know! Keep up the great work man, see you in half a year 🙋🏻‍♂️.

  • @northpointaxe6167
    @northpointaxe6167 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This sounds a lot like my high school cross country running team once our team and the other school's teams moved into the woods along the trail of the race... blood, pain and true carnage beyond the eyes of the coaches and judges... good times.

  • @davecummings7477
    @davecummings7477 Před rokem +21

    Ridley Scott's film "The Last Duel" was an incredible depiction of what a medieval duel looked like. One of his best films.

  • @Jcoch_27
    @Jcoch_27 Před 2 lety +15

    Guy: *Forgets to wear a cup*
    Herman: So you've chosen death

  • @EvilgnomeTV
    @EvilgnomeTV Před 2 lety +69

    Ah, the "good old days".
    Perhaps we'd be more grateful and generous if more of us knew history.

    • @lupression4457
      @lupression4457 Před 2 lety +1

      Undiagnosed anger ...was the result. We must always be better. Video was disgusting. Both men should have been swiftly executed cleanly.

    • @pancakecosmos6080
      @pancakecosmos6080 Před 2 lety

      @@lupression4457 fr Herman just raped another man how the hell does the church justify that?

    • @zackmac5917
      @zackmac5917 Před 2 lety +4

      100% yes.

    • @roberine7241
      @roberine7241 Před 2 lety +2

      @@lupression4457 unfortunately they lived in a time where justice worked like this if there were not enough witnesses. he explained that in the video.

  • @lastword8783
    @lastword8783 Před rokem +4

    Dont think guy wanted to win after having his balls ripped off even if he could. Dude just wanted to log off the life server after that.

  • @Larsgman
    @Larsgman Před 2 lety

    You have a really great voice, and the words chosen are nothing short of chef’s kiss.
    I am not familiar with this channel but this video alone made me a subscriber.
    The narration coupled with the images really makes the imagination run wild.
    So thankful I wasn’t born in that age or lived in that era.

  • @legavindarylive
    @legavindarylive Před 2 lety +14

    I hope to see history dose over 1M subs soon. These videos are so high quality and enjoyable.

  • @kris4247
    @kris4247 Před 2 lety +12

    The epitome of quality this channel never cease to educate and amaze

  • @EliasPoint
    @EliasPoint Před rokem +1

    This was a great video. It’s crazy how we were like this not too long ago

  • @This-jy6wn
    @This-jy6wn Před rokem +3

    The artwork is insane

  • @nicholasanderson5952
    @nicholasanderson5952 Před 2 lety +7

    Oh my god this is some big budget production looking stuff, really good work!

  • @Nateda_
    @Nateda_ Před 2 lety +4

    Wow, just wow. This video was well made, the sound effects were top tier. Subbed

  • @aced4fun
    @aced4fun Před rokem

    The vibe of this video is incredible and ultimately immersive
    Well done!

  • @ryanreviews8566
    @ryanreviews8566 Před rokem

    the audio mix in this is amazing!

  • @mellie2003
    @mellie2003 Před 2 lety +19

    So in fact, ever since then, nothing really changed. It was a bit more visceral overall, but the amount of cruelty stayed the same.

  • @user-os2yp6ph2z
    @user-os2yp6ph2z Před 2 lety +9

    Extraordinary work, as always

  • @bigbrownhouse6999
    @bigbrownhouse6999 Před rokem

    This narration is beautifully written. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time haha

  • @stokeyellich6072
    @stokeyellich6072 Před 2 lety

    I have been interested in this topic for a long time Thank you!

  • @andreasosterberg8833
    @andreasosterberg8833 Před 2 lety +21

    captivating voice, masterfully art made for the video representing everything being said, good pace and very well chosen music for the video.
    I don't know, might have missed something that made the video great but my point is that the video is great, first one I've seen of this channel. But I am going to check some more and I am now a new subscriber :)

  • @everssonnascimento4601
    @everssonnascimento4601 Před 2 lety +15

    Damn, that was so perfectly edited

  • @-Jansen155
    @-Jansen155 Před 4 měsíci

    Woah, what a coincidence that I'm going through all your vids in order, and the Medieval duel episode happens to come up on the day I started playing Dark Souls 3 again for the first time in forever. It makes total sense that fights would come down to punching matches, with both sides so heavily armored. Very very brutal.

  • @javicoca
    @javicoca Před 2 lety

    superb narration. Thank you, and congrats!

  • @TheFatbutterpancake
    @TheFatbutterpancake Před 2 lety +7

    Man, the art work here is incredible

  • @simonl7868
    @simonl7868 Před 2 lety +6

    These illustrations are fantastic!

  • @hankhill5409
    @hankhill5409 Před rokem

    The video editing skills are on a whole other level

  • @johnster02
    @johnster02 Před 2 lety +2

    “the king” movie has great fight scenes that depict this well

  • @steamedbeans6979
    @steamedbeans6979 Před 2 lety +4

    Truly amazing video! Well done.

  • @jessejojojohnson
    @jessejojojohnson Před 2 lety +52

    Spectacular narration. What makes the medieval period so fascinating were its extremes of contradictions. That, and where there be dragons. 😋

  • @I_punch_pandas
    @I_punch_pandas Před rokem

    Great commentary. Really enjoyed

  • @brettjones8567
    @brettjones8567 Před 2 lety

    New viewer (you can thank mr rogan) and i gotta say this video was excellent. Look forward to watching more from you. Excellent work

  • @TheDonaldDuckProject
    @TheDonaldDuckProject Před 2 lety +11

    Love the artwork!!

  • @kalewintermute28
    @kalewintermute28 Před 2 lety +3

    Narration and visuals were done really well.

  • @BLUEKOMMEH
    @BLUEKOMMEH Před rokem

    Another incredible video!

  • @cowboyglizzy1883
    @cowboyglizzy1883 Před rokem

    Amazing video. Very entertaining and educational.

  • @lsporter88
    @lsporter88 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow, that's rough. Great video.

  • @IOL-ox5tn
    @IOL-ox5tn Před 2 lety +16

    These videos are really interesting, immersive and entertaining, never stop creating

    • @danevertt3210
      @danevertt3210 Před 2 lety

      You are no longer fresh

    • @IOL-ox5tn
      @IOL-ox5tn Před 2 lety

      @@danevertt3210 what do you mean?

    • @danevertt3210
      @danevertt3210 Před 2 lety

      @@IOL-ox5tn you still can’t be a fresh Burrito my friend…..I’m sure you’ve been sitting out

    • @IOL-ox5tn
      @IOL-ox5tn Před 2 lety

      @@danevertt3210 I'm not your average weak burrito, trust me

    • @danevertt3210
      @danevertt3210 Před 2 lety

      @@IOL-ox5tn dude that’s impressive

  • @lukestefan3856
    @lukestefan3856 Před rokem

    Your narration skills are incredible!

  • @joeyu498
    @joeyu498 Před rokem

    the audio quality is so good omg

  • @caseycarney7025
    @caseycarney7025 Před 2 lety +3

    This was awesome. You are very good at telling the story

  • @appleciderhorror12
    @appleciderhorror12 Před 2 lety +13

    You won't recant? - No - Then let God be your judge! - What does that mean? - Please hold on to this blazing bar or steel. - Aargh! - See, you can't do it! Guilty!

    • @AndrewTheMandrew531
      @AndrewTheMandrew531 Před 2 lety +2

      The Inquisition was founded to curb this tide of “trial by ordeal” which is what you described.

  • @gozzaldi1486
    @gozzaldi1486 Před rokem

    Hey I first saw your Henry Every video a while ago; now I am subbed! Your channel is fantastic! Thank you

  • @arnenian3093
    @arnenian3093 Před rokem

    Great video man

  • @09amaze
    @09amaze Před 2 lety +3

    Amazing I love the art is superb, can't wait for more videos.!

  • @matthieutrollip1430
    @matthieutrollip1430 Před 2 lety +9

    I freaking love your artwork 😀

  • @seanharris8419
    @seanharris8419 Před rokem +1

    I’ve seen a stab wound before where it looked like the guys inside were trying to poke out through a slit in his torso and it was super disturbing to look at. Puts into perspective how horrifying a medieval battlefield would be.

  • @warulk
    @warulk Před rokem

    Holy crap, my guy, that was awesome.

  • @roguestar8
    @roguestar8 Před 2 lety +4

    The graphics are just too good 🤩

  • @dylancharles8115
    @dylancharles8115 Před 2 lety +3

    How does this not have more views? Epic storytelling, art and pacing.

    • @HistoryDose
      @HistoryDose  Před 2 lety

      Thanks Dylan! Hasn’t hit the algorithms the right way yet, but feel free to share!

    • @JayzsMr
      @JayzsMr Před 2 lety

      @@HistoryDose true, I watched a video from you before but forgot xur chanel name even though I was subscribed but never saw any video from you recommend even though I watch bunch of history channels. I am glad I found your chanel again only because history march recommend a video of yours

    • @prod.kidmizu
      @prod.kidmizu Před 2 lety

      it hit my algorithm and i just discovered his channel hopefully more people discover it

  • @yaboyed5779
    @yaboyed5779 Před 2 lety

    Finding your Stilicho video was the best thing I did cause it introduced me this masterpiece

  • @Anglashock
    @Anglashock Před 3 měsíci

    Great artwork, coupled with excellent commentary. Subscribed🇦🇺

  • @mattclements1348
    @mattclements1348 Před 2 lety +5

    Damn, fkn nice work

  • @Magneticlaw
    @Magneticlaw Před 2 lety +96

    Very good video! An item to note is that not all duels would have been quite so brutal (or final), depending on the situation and circumstances, as sometimes victorious knights would sell the opponent's armor back to them, (or even ransom the knight) hence the term "blackmail."

    • @tooheyadam1199
      @tooheyadam1199 Před 2 lety +5

      Mind blown

    • @sensur1
      @sensur1 Před 2 lety +5

      Wow, didnt know that. And why not "Backmail?"

    • @realhorrorshow8547
      @realhorrorshow8547 Před 2 lety +10

      "Mail" in blackmail derives from Middle English _male_ rent or tribute. It has nothing to do with mail armour.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail#Etymology

    • @jasonl5164
      @jasonl5164 Před 2 lety +5

      @@realhorrorshow8547 nifty sounding folk-etymology gains traction, real meaning buried in replies. Indeed "A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots"

    • @realhorrorshow8547
      @realhorrorshow8547 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jasonl5164 Well, I thought the original - greenmail, whitemail etc - was more interesting.
      It is true that defeated knights were obliged to pay ransom under some circumstances and that sometimes meant loss of valuable possessions, such as armour. Just not as described.

  • @NJtroutboss
    @NJtroutboss Před rokem

    Your voice makes these videos. Destined for history Channel narration. Well done

  • @pogodanderfluff9390
    @pogodanderfluff9390 Před 2 lety

    Magnificent narration.