Tube Screamer TS9 VS Joyo Vintage Overdrive - Blind Test - Pedal Clone Wars Ep.1
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Let's blind test the Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9 VS the Joyo Vintage Overdrive.
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am i going to get flamed that i thought A was tube screamer because I thought it sounded better? wow. i'm impressed.
You're not alone! ;D I was surprised when he revealed the A was Joyo.
I was kind of shocked...I've been using the Joyo Vintage Overdrive for a few months now and I figured I would put some money on a Tube Screamer eventually...but I think I won't, now.
Same here.
Me too. I just bought The Demon Pedal, same as Joyo
A sounds better}
I prefer the Joyo it sounded better to my ears
:)
vikramjit banerjee I agree. It has more of a metallic edge to the sound.
Great video, Nico. It really helped me nail down which overdrive I'm going to buy.
+Glen McQuestion thanks Glen, you're welcome :)
We at The Funmobile preferred the Joyo Pedal, too. The BOSS Pedal sounded a little thinner when not cranked to 100%
I too! I was really surprised!
Be honest the joyo killed the ts9. The ts9 sounded dead. The VO was alive and cranking!
Preferred A. Brighter, more dynamic. Thanks for this comparison.
Was genuinely surprised A was Joyo, much better sound, gain and mids. Fuck, buying it right now.
I was thinking A THE WHOLE TIME! Screamer seems to pull back certain frequencies and reduced expression. 65 year old ears factor -2 Db. My mid's are naturally scooped a little. Choose to get JOYO
Thanks again for a great video review.. I think you are at the TOP on Pedal reviews. JUST RIGHT.
Thanks James! :)
max gain | A 0:31 B 0:56
all noon | A 1:24 B 1:35
max gain Hendrix | A 1:46 B 2:00
max gain single note | A 2:16 B 2:22
gain at 13 arpeggios | A 2:30 B 2:47
max gain ZZ Top | A 3:01 B 3:15
I think the difference is that minimal, that it really wouldn't matter to me which one I used. I like the Joyo stuff. Haven't had a bad one yet, and I have 5 of them.
+MrDavee1 great Davee! I have five as well !
I’m really surprised cuz I liked A a lot more. It punched more and drove the tone more. And I’m even more blown away to find out it was the cheaper one
Beautiful! I could watch her work on this truck all day.
I love the Joyo Vintage Overdrive - has all the classic sounds if the TS9 without the bass loss. Might but a second one to cascade together.
LoL, it has the bass loss too... Cause the EQ is EXACTLY the same on both...
WOW, I'm actually liking the Joyo products on this comparison. not only a great sound, but great price and build quality 👍
They really are very close. For most of the samples I preferred the Joyo pedal. It sounded more articulate and had a better response in the mid range to my ears. It's important if you're trying to cut through the mix in a four or five piece band. It's no surprise to me that the Joyo pedal performed so well. I own a few and they all sound amazing. Besides at one fifth the price it's really a no brainer. Joyo is the way to go IMO.
This is how every comparison video should be - blind! Awesome stuff! Thank you! Joyo for me all day. I actually immediately knew which one was which - from other comparison videos I knew the Ibanez sounds smoother and the Joyo has more edge. I definitely prefer edge. :)))
An even more fun thing to do would be to switch which pedal is A or B for each music bit. This way we would have to rely entirely on our ears to see which one we prefer in the context of each setting/music.
I might be wrong, but the Joyo is a copy of the 808 rather than the TS9 - I think this might account for the main difference in sound (to my ears, the Ibanez has a bit of a low mid bump compared to the joyo)
Yup - TubeScreamers were engineered with the mid-bump in mind.
I prefer the sample A in most of the cases.
the joyo sounded like it had more presence, and because of that, it was my preferred choice. great video!
+Taylor Gibler thanks for your opinion Taylor! Cheers :)
got the Joyo for x-mas, paired it with the Joyo Tremolo, and never looked back!
:D
Guess this puts the whole "cheap Chinese clones are shit" argument to bed
+Izzy1782 yeah it's all about finding what works for us!
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Have you had the pleasure of trying the tiny Hotone pedals? Such a great line! As are most of the Donner minis
+Izzy1782 no never! But I will if I can, thanks for the advice :)
Nico Bellisario - Guitar, Music & Stuff
Donner flanger beats out BOSS, and the Morpher distortion has gain for DAYS. The Ninety Orange goes great with a Dunlop Rotovibe as well
lol
i'll check em out, thanks!
Holy smokes! I need a metal zone! You fooled me, man. Now if only Joyo would hurry up and ship me that little diamond in the rough.
"A" sounds more agressive... they are veeeeery similar.. i would go with joyo
Thanks Frederico :)
Not surprised by the result : B is more natural and deeper to my ears. I think to that TS9 is more pleasant to play, with better feeling.
Me gusta mucho más el sonido del palm mute del Joyo, es más agresivo y "gordo" me recuerda al metal pesado de los 80's
La única diferencia que escucho es que el Joyo tiene un poquito más de agudos y gain que el TS9, el mejor clon que he escuchado
After owning the Joyo for a while I can tell the difference. Luckily I forgot the order before re-watching. The Joyo is brasher and bigger sounding, but it's also harsher. There is a pleasant texture to the TS9. I prefer it over the Joyo.
I preferred the Joyo...
The joyo sounds better because of the loudness. You need to hear it live to do a comparison
My ears heard a little more clarity in the higher frequencies with the Joyo! To each his own though! Both amazing pedals.
Well said! Thanks Chase :)
the ts has a little bit more bass than the joyo
thats why it creates an illusion of better brightness, but it just reveals that the ts has a better sound quality keeping the lows while on
i thought A was the tube screamer to. but the surprise was to discover that B was the Metal Zone!! is that a modded metal zone?
Was it Really?? On second thought, I did catch the faint sound of a Cat caught in a Dumpster Fire... Dead giveaway.
I was in a band
Someone for 7 years who was a great guy, a good player and songwriter. When we started he had a good tone but after a year he bought a metal
Zone. I ducking hated it so much. Then he bought a second metal zone to cascade. If someone can’t hear how awful that sounds by themselves there’s little point telling them i concluded.
In the first two SRV songs I prefered The Tube Screamer also as in La grange, but in the other in the AC/DC songs the Joyo sounded better.. and the others, i just couldn't tell which one was better.... And even when I chose a prefered one they were VERY close! I'm really impressed!
+João Avelino insightful comment, thanks you!
Nico Bellisario - Guitar, Music & Stuff in fact I bought one Vintage drive from joyo and I'll buy a ts9... I'll make the comparison with the songs I play as there are songs that sound better in a specific pedal
Show, João! Tb estou com o Joyo VtOd, aguardo tua comparação. vlw guitarpedia-blog.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/19930_San_Dimas_Brazil_Flag_C9337_1.jpg
Joyo was more responsive. Nice playing
At just one minute and fourteen seconds in, they both sound similar enough that it doesn't matter in a mix.
yo tambien uso el vintage overdrive y ac tone de joyo!!
I have both! cheers :)
Wow...I thought for sure A was not the joyo....very impress with the sound....I pick A...thank you for a great demo...
after this ... joyo ... on my "get" list. amazed. i selected the joyo! more "midrangey" to my ears. right down the middle, which i prefer.
Eric Belopolsky I’ve had one for about 4 years and honestly I was so impressed by the sound. It’s incredible for the money
Josh More thanks so much for your response. im now giong to put this on my list!
Don't forget you're hearing playback via MP3 not wav so we're losing a lot of the quality sound with the compression. The differences between the quality of the effects that the Ibanez provides may be lost in translation.
I could tell immediately that B was the tube screamer by it’s thinner, quieter tone. Imo for my style of playing, the joyo blows the TS clean out of the water and sounds a world better. The TS was probably super impressive, back in 1983.
You are correct. The TS was very impressive and we all had one. I'm off to get the Joyo though. It sounds like what I always wanted the Tube Scream to sound like.
I actually like A for most of the samples, and B for a few. Surprised me.
Joyo make good pedal efects at low cost. Some people say that are trash but i've been using a Dyna Compressor and a Vitange Phaser for about a year and didnt have any problem, buuut these pedals are'nt clones, the Phaser is not like a Phase 90 or a Small Stone and the Dyna Compressor is'nt a clone of the MXR Dyna Comp. The Vintage Phaser plus my Deluxe Big Muff Pi make a awesone couple! Add the Dyna Compressor and you get a nasty infinite sustain.
Good comparison btw, u got my subscription!
Thanks for your insight man and thanks for subscribing! Much appreciated :) bye!
I just bought one of the joys pedals after watching this..great vid man..
jOYO vintage overdrive was really impressive sounding
blind test : I thought a was a little better . not much in it , could probably tweak them to be virtually identical . I bought a joyo VO a few weeks ago . nothing bad to say , does its job very well. Build quality is not super but for 30$ I wouldn't worry about it.
B sounded better when used as a boost quite a different sound when used as a boost, more clarity on the notes with the Ibanez
This video made me buy the vintage overdive. Only thing is its labeled Harley Benton. Same effect tho
Sample A sounds better for me. It has more punch to it. Subscribing
Tubescreamer with the single coils and Joyo with humbucker sounded best to my ears.
Great Vid and playing, i have the TS 808 and the HB vintage overdrive. Both are good. The Ibanez is more nasal, the vintage sounds a little more distorted. If money is not the question i recommend the Ibanez.
+Christian Schroeter I ve always wanted a ts808! Sound aside, it looks way cooler than the ts9 😀
The joyo as always I think these joy's are just way cleaner sounding circuit they all certainly use micro sized components too
the best thing in this video is the "Vito Corleone-Look" at 4:04 !!!🤣
The Tube Screamer sounded muddier. I guess the Joyo will be one of my next overdrive pedals.
wow i really am impressed with the tone of the joyo. i kept thinking sample A sounded better and I just assumed it was the tube screamer because it's more known and more expensive. might be buying a joyo!
I'm listening with a quality laptop PC with great sound, through a quality pair of headphones. There is no comparison, Sample A is consistently better, it has more clarity, is not as muddy. Joyo wins by a mile. Great comparison by the way, one of the best I have seen.
+David Storm thanks David! :)
I did a video recording via phone camera on my revv g3 which has some random bad connections which result in lower output. The differences is obvious when u heard it thru live, but thru the recording the differences is minimum.
If one is after better quality tone, especially at home.The differences became more obvious when u used the original one on a quality tube amp and a noise reduction room.
But if one use it for gig or jam, i think no one would pay attention to the differences when the singer screams and the drum rolled.
Depends on your need. Today budget pedals are just bang for the bucks.
I like the Joyo!! This pedal is Awesome!! More cheaper and do things better then TS9. And this pedal is beautiful by the way, Thanks man for this video
To me the Tube Screamer was more transparent, which is exactly what I'm looking for
Been a musician for almost 30 years, and they sure as hell sound the same to me...
Dig the way you presented it! Wish more vids were set with the "blind" comparison. Thanks!
Hey Nico...my name's Mike...I live in Portugal...I have a big fucking collection of pedals and I've got the Joyo/Harley Benton Vintage OD and the Maxon OD808...but the Maxon is an 808 sound and the joyo that you are demoing is a TS9 sound.
When you were setting them up, did you match the gain level by ear or use the knob positions? I much preferred the sound of A but I suspect it might be because it was set to higher gain
Hey William! Both pedals were set identically as shown in the graphics. It seems to me as well, especially on lower gain settings that the Joyo has more gain but at full blast they seem almost the same. It also seems to me that the joyo has a fatter voicing while the tubescreamer has a bit more "sophisticated" voice, especially on single notes
The sound differences could also have been caused by the difference in pots due to tolerances and taper. For a closer comparison in future videos I'd suggest using one pedal as a reference and tweaking the other by ear to have a simular level of gain and treble. That way you can be more sure what you are hearing are differences in the circuit as opposed to the variations in components.
Love the playing will be keeping an eye out for the next one
+William Billington thanks William, and thanks for the advice!
I just ordered the Joyo so I was searching for reviews. I was sure that A was an Ibanez TS. I'm very happy with the results!
Thanks Nico. Great comparison.
Thanks! :)
👍👍 actually the joyo sounds surprisingly
good. I don't think you can go wrong for the price
Definition and clarity was much better with the Joyo, but that wasn’t fair, man. Sample B was mushier.
Nice playing though.
Thanks Joe :)
wow! i prefered the joyo! didn´t expect this result...but i like it!
If you can't choose, try Joyo because it's true bypass and smaller :D
I liked the Joyo more
Just bought the Joyo today and was thinking the TS9 was A (which I much preferred) and felt I made the wrong purchase. But what a pleasant surprise!
The joyo od is cheap..but it outperforms soany other more expensive ones. I love mine..it lives on my board
i prefered the sample A tone. think i'll be putting the joyo on my wishlist
Joyo is way more lively and crisp, but not grating. Tubescreamer sounded muffled to my ears and wasn't crisp sounding. It didn't sound great.
Great playing really shined through.
Thought a sounded better was hoping it's was the cheap one I had the very first screamer died a couple of years ago will replace with a moyo also had heard that the Behringer was pretty good
Great video!! I like the joyo better. I have one and guessed which one it was from the very first sample you played. Great, cheap overdrive!!
🤘🎸🤘
In all honesty I preferred the joyo sounded more organic
I liked the joyo. It sounded a bit fuller in the mids.
The TS9 is just stupidly more expensive I rather have the Joyo 💯
Wow! You can tear it up man! Shredder.
Caught myself. Clip #1 I thought B was Joyo, but clip #3 it was A. Joyo has that 3d quality that leaps off the fret board esp open strings. More lively. OD pedal demos really require a strat neck for demos to hear nuance. Think cranked BFSR. The baseline for tone samples. Anything else is a waste of my time.
I actually like A. Interesting. The Donner Blues Drive I also find better than both the Boss Blues Driver and the Waza Boss Blues Driver.
The era of overprice pedals now adays is already gone this joyo vintage overdrive is wonderful sound and for the price
The Joyo won, hands down. To me, anyway. It just sounded more "alive"
Well, I'll be damned. I've been playing with a Tube Screamer for 35 years. I was convinced that I knew which one was the TS. To my surprise, I was wrong. I need to improve my sound. Off to go purchase the Joyo. Sounds much better.
On some samples...indistinguishable!
But Joyo takes it!
At last a video where someone can choose a pedal without the prejudice of brand! I've listened many times the sample and..... I will buy a joyo, although ibanez sounds clearest, because I prefer the dirty sound of it... congratulations for the video
Thanks!
The single notes give it away. Also I love your inebriated videos!
Joyo, especialy when you compare prices🤩 🎸
Sample A. Joyo. Sounded clearer with a tad more top end.
Without the boost the Joyo sounded waayyy better but with the boost the Ibanez sounded a tiny bit better
Joyo overall winner
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+lechuga yo thanks!
I was fooled. They both sound great.
I like A a little bit better. It seemed like it had more presence...but for less than $40 you can't go wrong right?
That was funny. You got that Metal Zone to be so tame. Nice. I own 10 Joyo pedals and find them to be... well i own 10 so...
The Joyo sounds way better, and I picked it out too. The Joyo is also an 808 clone.
What amp did you use for this demo?
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I have the joyo and i use it every rehearsal. I couldn't tell which one it was. Damn close. Just found the TS a little more bright.
In the end, it's just different flavors of the same thing, none is really better. Joyo stuff is really impressive.
By the way, subscribed !
Thanks man! much appreciated, keep rocking dem Joyos :) Cheers!
Definitely Joyo overdrive the best. I love it.
Gotta say I preferred B, but it was definitely close and I wasn’t at all confident that it was the TS.
Tube screamer will always be better but like he said, I wouldn't mind using the joyo. It's not like anyone in an audience is gunna tell or care which one you're using. If you wanna save money, go for the joyo and you'll be fine. But if you're a bit richer, get the tube screamer
Thanks for your input Marcus! The joyos make also for great back up pedals!
Great review.. I have both and the Tube Screamer is a Robert Keeley modded version. I prefer the Joyo, infront of the US Dream (Purple) Joyo pedal into a Blackstar amp - 80's rock sound.. really great and responsive.
Great comparison, great playing.
+Bairdogg Thanks man! :)
i'm about halfway through the video and so far A sounds better, but can't 100% tell if it sounds better or just louder.
3/4 way through, A sounds better with the boost as well.
i liked joyo better maybe because it had a hair more gain- probably though you could dial them in almost identically - thus joyo wins on price