BMW HP4 vs Ducati Panigale R at Laguna Seca
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2014
- Living Large at Laguna by CycleWorld - Join Editor-at-Speed Eric Bostrom and Road Test Editor Don Canet at Laguna Seca as they explore the otherworldly abilities of the BMW HP4 and Ducati Panigale R.
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5:43 "but as you start going faster, it starts getting stiffer"'
story of my life in so many ways
Great to hear a professional rider's opinion on how the bikes set up and perform with the different settings, we need more of these type of videos guys.
I need a Panni R next to my TV so during the commercials I can admirer its beauty
I really enjoyed the format and content as I’m in the market for an additional bike. Great job guys! Both of these bikes are excellent and that is what makes buying a sport bike these days so much fun.......it’s almost impossible to buy a bad one.
Love The Corkscrew!
E.B still awesome! I haven't seen him race in a long time but he was my favorite. Then years later T.S comes in for tean green in wsbk. It's all bout him. Both are awesome
I like the blinking light on the front, it gets attention from other people on the road. Look, a biker, don't kill them.
Great to se a relaxed review. Every magazine is like on steroids and blue pills these days.
Awesome
Those lap times are really impressive; they beat the Motor Trend times for the SRT Viper and the Corvette ZR1 which are the two fastest production cars to lap that circuit.
Out of curiosity though are the lap times here and on motortrend rolling starts or off the line. That could make it unfair to compare.
thecarbonhornet s Both where doing rolling starts!
I had the pleasure of watching E. Bostrom blew oil in front of me on his Kawasaki at a Buttonwillow track day. lol
He got off the track and started waving everyone down to watch out for the slick. Cool dude. This was 1997 iirc.
I think the mirrors on the BMW must have slowed it down by 200th of second. :) I wonder how the suspension was set up for the BMW, but laps under 1.34 seconds seems pretty good for both bikes. Should test more bikes around Laguna to use it as a Benchmark like Motortrend hotlaps.
I love the look and racy feels of the Ducati . But I love the price and the useability of the HP4. Both are dream bikes since most of us can't even come close to use them at the limit.
Well.
yes and no.
Granted we're just average guys, but practice does make perfect. All it really takes is for one of us guys to lose is temper, dump his wallet, and grind out about a month or so of track days, and all of a sudden you're ready to race at the world superbike series. the technology given off of these new stock platforms puts beginners into the intermediate class much, much faster than the old bikes used to. just saying dude. and yes, not everybody is going to do that, or even reach those levels after practice, but realistically- if someone had talent, determination, fitness and a heavy temper coming off their starting days... it's hard to say what they could and couldn't accomplish.
as for the bikes, yeah you're right. the panigale is much more of an obnoxious racer, whereas the bmw is more for multi-purpose use.
Cb
***** I was simply trying to say that the new bikes out today make it easier to become a more skilled rider than you once were, than on an older bike once did. I never made a question about rossi or anyone.
dat drop
What kind of sunglasses is Eric Bostrom wearing? I thought they might be Oakleys...
Oakley
i would have expected for big ballin cycle world to have some better mics for these guys to use... all i could hear was wind noise
MV ftw.
That Ducati has a 200 rear tire also I believe. Which from what I read on a 200/50 is that the cornering slows down bit. Maybe you can hit the apex better with a 180/55-190/55.
200/55. And due to the bike's design, it flicks from side to side very quickly. Especially with the R or S model, where Ducati put lightweight wheels. It is as quick if not quicker than even a CBR600RR.
marmoot Has it right. In addition, the 2015 Panigale R shaved, what was it, 6 Kilograms (13.22 pounds) of weight off of the old 2014 R model, and has 10 more horsepower @ 11,500rpm, due to the superleggera derived engine the new R model has.
+ShadowLancer128 what do you mean 2015 'R' model? I thought they were only making the 1299 Panigale and 1299 Panigle S this year? There have been no plans for a 2015 Panigale R......I may be wrong though!
Modelo Super www.panigale.ducati.com/en?_ga=1.116838214.136432445.1437306376
Good stuff thanks for that mate! I must had read an article a while back and as they were keeping the 'R' model with the 1199 capacity not 1299 (1285cc) and assumed they were not making changes to the previous model. I'm very glad you copied this link - it's hands down the best looking bike that's ever been available! Would love to track one, one day!
Awesome video, but why there is in that Bmw HP4 that Akrapovic exhaust and Ducati has that stock Ducati Panigale exhaust, it should be in Panigale R model that termignoni exhaust, then it would be perfect Panigale R...
I have seen these test lots of, always there is that Panigale R whit stock exhaust, and other bikes are whit better exhaust..
Because HP4 comes stock with the Akra system.
ducati is the best italian bike.
I love it
Aprilia.
Ducati Drew ur name is ducati drew
DUCATI RULES
I've noticed the Duc edge out the HP4 on most reviews. Being significantly down on horsepower that seems impressive. I can't understand why most of the reviews praise the BMW and are critical of the Duc.
Because the Duc takes quite a bit of getting used to before it rewards the rider. Ride it incorrectly and it would feel like crap. The BMW is a better package to get into and easier to get used to, very similar to Japanese litrebikes.
Most reviews only give the rider one or a few days to get used to. Pretty hard to do that with Ducatis, although the 1199 is already a lot easier to learn than the previous ones.
Simple. The ducati panigale r is £27,000, £10,000 more then a bike its slower then in a straight line, less comfortable then, less usable, and can only beat by 0.2 with a champion on a track. I personally love the 899 but personally the 1199 makes no sense for the price especially the r version at £27k :/, imagine bmw made a bike at 27k, the ducati would look like a joke lol
***** You really need to learn the proper use of the english language…your comment makes you sound totally unknowledgeable…the difference between using "Then" and "than"…look it up!!! OMG!!!
Thomas J. Palazzolo I apologize for the mistake, I FULLY know the difference, unlike you who comes onto a motorbike video taking time to write a comment about the english language, I don't care as long as the message is put across, If i need to impress someone with formal speech and documents then maybe i'll spend time bothering.
Judging knowledge on the way i spell in a world where there are many smart and inspirational people (www.dyslexia.com/famous.htm) who may even be dyslexic (not that I am) makes you look "unknowledgeable", and unlike my mistake which has to do with bothering to spell correctly, you're failed judgment of intellect is to do with you're faulty logic, since when was there a correlation between knowledge of motorbikes, and ability to spell. Your passion for such a useless subject is mesmorizing. Grow up.
***** NO, very obviously you don't the difference, otherwise you wouldn't have done it…and I guess if you're o.k. being less than you could be that's something you must deal with…the saying "words mean something" is true. What you say and how you say it whether in person or in print tells a lot about a person….I didn't say you weren't smart, and making excuses for your laziness in use of language is a weak argument at best. You obviously have some knowledge of motorcycles, but that isn't what's at issue…I am grown by the way…which is why I pointed out your improper use of the english language…
Bmw
Is the ducati worth the faster .200 over the bmw? Not in my opinion. Bmw is better all rounder.
men the only race and drivers are the guys from isle of a mann tt
1.33.07 and 1.33.09? that's margin of error.
ibsabur that guy on barons 899 vid talking about you going on EVERY vid that had a hp4 and 1199 and letting people know you have both is wrong because here are both of them togeather and you haven't even commented. So ha that idiot is wrong. Btw you make great vids and your bikes are some of my all time favorites, your a luck guy to own both!!
ducati the best
Aprilia....FTW!!!!
Ducati Drew but what about your name
500%POTATO 68469346293462936491269316496041 You never met anyone with an identity crisis? Lol. I liked Ducati until I rode an Aprilia. Too lazy to change my account name. Ride safe.
Ducati Drew lol cool bruh
ducati rocks
Does the Ducati not have mirrors? Lol
Why is the Panigale R $7k more than HP4 Competition??
Because it's a Ducati.
Anthony Brown If you've ever dealt with Ducati on a sales/service side of things, that fact becomes even more mind boggling.
Its like a ferrari, your just paying more for the name brag
s4 downgraded to sv1000 judging the R...B pls
because its the Panigale R! the Zues of 2 wheel world, won the last world sbk race at Laguna month ago where BMW STK1000 15th on the grid stalled and 2 riders died, Dacati 205Hp V twin 14k red line it's so much better than Ferrari, so much better than bmw in every possible way if you're not a squid! wsbk BMW can't finish in the top 10 it's Kawi and Ducatis, put these 2 on COTA 25 lap race with active racers, the bmw will get lapped kid and will trash the tire sooner. the panigale R is so much more exciting as a race machine...bmw has an stalling issues and winning races, last on my list.
1:37,wanna be guy martin
+Trent Gasparitsch lol more like Peter Fonda
Bla bla bla get to the race
The BMW's lights totally ruin the bike
Eze Belton I don't agree: I really like it
Eze Belton At first I didnt like it but now I love it ! It gives it more personality I think its a 100 % right as it should be :D
+Solaire of Ludomedia i like the shape but such a shame it aint led
this makes the bike unique
hoang thao truong nguyen really man i mean for a 20k bike even a scooter now a days have led
BMW is way better bike than Ducati
Hen zo why
Because is faster and more reliable. Greetings
but you will never be good enough to notice a difference
statistics 2016 shows that BMW's reliability is ranked lower than Ducati.
So many squids out here lol this is not just any Ducati this is the Panigale R! won the last world sbk race at Laguna month ago where BMW 15th on the grid stalled and 2 riders died, Dacati 205Hp V twin 14k red line it's so much better than Ferrari, so much better than bmw in every possible way! wsbk BMW can't finish in the top 10 it's Kawi and Ducatis, put these 2 on COTA 25 lap race with active racers, the bmw will get lapped kids.
Same rider, same track, same time...how do you figure it gets lapped? lol
Also, you're not on the track everyday! You're on the street and the S1000RR and HP4 are way better road bikes. Simply can't go wrong with any of the top bikes nowadays though. it's good time to be riding!
BMW better
Talk with energy man sounds fake no emotions in talking