The case of Elliot Rodgers

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024

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  • @sh1nigami223
    @sh1nigami223 Před 6 měsíci +618

    The most mentally healthy player of World of Warcraft:

  • @Random_Things1001
    @Random_Things1001 Před 5 měsíci +379

    I think Joe missed the point

    • @jacobpeters5458
      @jacobpeters5458 Před 4 měsíci +47

      he didnt. his guest completely misrepresented the cause. and Rodger doesnt portray himself as godlike in his memoir: constantly calls himself a loser. Even the title suggests he knows something about him is off “My Twisted World”. He just perceived injustice after injustice and when all his options were exhausted in his mind he turned to violence out of sheer frustration. Had very little to do with his friends playing in secret, he hung out with people long before and after that

    • @RedPlumber
      @RedPlumber Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@jacobpeters5458People like you would probably defend the columbine killers

    • @michaelshannon9169
      @michaelshannon9169 Před 4 měsíci +18

      Joe nailed it. The other guy pinned it on his friends excluding him, Joe called him out.

    • @rextherunt3135
      @rextherunt3135 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@michaelshannon9169Themes of humiliation and betrayal, perceived or otherwise are much more powerful than this or that tiny thing. Ask any wife that realises she's been cheated on and everyone except her knew.

    • @HR2007-o3f
      @HR2007-o3f Před 2 měsíci +1

      Who is the guest?

  • @joej3365
    @joej3365 Před 3 měsíci +98

    Once a person stops valuing their life it’s a dangerous game for everyone around them

  • @Professorgenitals
    @Professorgenitals Před 6 měsíci +376

    Joe Rogan understands so little and says so much

    • @duskagony1653
      @duskagony1653 Před 6 měsíci +30

      Wdym? He’s trying to learn by asking a question

    • @user-ft5eg3xu9k
      @user-ft5eg3xu9k Před 5 měsíci

      I wouldn't say he knows so little. I mean the man can basically hold an off the cuff conversation from top scientists in their fields to jocking it up with boys. He's a black belt in Taekwondo jiu-jitsu kickboxing and Muay Thai he's an excellent commentator a pretty good orator all around how can you say he understands so little? Please you can say oh I'm a Joe Rogan nut rider. But maybe give me any evidence. Also the way you get smarter is by asking questions then taking those answers fact checking them and boom you've learned something. Another way is the dedicate hours and hours and hours to a craft and become so proficient in it that you're a master in that particular field. Your name is professional genitals I'm assuming you're 19 and you know how to hold a PS5 controller and work at your local coffee bean. Stay in your lane you look dumb no offense. I know by the way that I'll get a message back saying how your an amazing guitarist your master of calculus something like that

    • @secretaryofstate1
      @secretaryofstate1 Před 5 měsíci

      Facts !

    • @-B-1
      @-B-1 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@duskagony1653he asks all these questions because he never researches the things he speaks about

    • @CommandoMaster
      @CommandoMaster Před 18 dny +1

      Joe is overrated 😂

  • @TheIronWolf22
    @TheIronWolf22 Před 3 měsíci +93

    That’s not even what happened.

    • @BejaranoAngeles.11.
      @BejaranoAngeles.11. Před měsícem +4

      Exactly, it is completely opposite... He actually stopped later for good after he started playing again and it was no longer the couple of guys he played with but many many different people and he did not like that at all, so he just stopped playing. World of Warcraft had nothing at all to do with his broken soul.
      All this post is doing is keeping up the bullying he had to put up with throughout his life.... Rest In Peace 🕊️ Beautiful Broken Soul, Elliot, I pray Jesus has you holding you so much you are no longer broken and tortured😢...

    • @rayfreestyl3
      @rayfreestyl3 Před měsícem +1

      @@BejaranoAngeles.11.hes a scumbag hes looking up at us

    • @RevanX
      @RevanX Před měsícem +2

      ​@@BejaranoAngeles.11.You are insane. I pray for the people around you to stay safe.

    • @armanrashidy7119
      @armanrashidy7119 Před měsícem +2

      Was he actually psychopath ​@@RevanX

  • @BobbyTomMathew
    @BobbyTomMathew Před 5 měsíci +74

    This incident has nothing to do with WOW. This is the strangest explanation I've ever heard related to ER.

  • @OluyomiAdekanmi
    @OluyomiAdekanmi Před 3 měsíci +20

    i dont trust people anymore

  • @itsRudeGal
    @itsRudeGal Před 3 měsíci +29

    His lifestyle, his ego, his sense of entitlement, and his delusions were all factors of this event.. That’s very scary. There’s lots of people today who walk around like this.

    • @itsRudeGal
      @itsRudeGal Před 3 měsíci +2

      His problem was, he went for the wrong types of women… he should’ve dated someone who wasn’t his preference and eventually he would’ve gotten what he wanted in life. He needed experience and lots of other things. 😂 it’s crazy how this played out.

    • @tremainebligh8984
      @tremainebligh8984 Před 16 dny

      ​@@itsRudeGal he listened to his negative thoughts and believed it to be true and that everything else is wrong

    • @tremainebligh8984
      @tremainebligh8984 Před 16 dny

      ​@@itsRudeGala spoilt fool.

    • @ChristopherLaw-qv4ou
      @ChristopherLaw-qv4ou Před 15 dny +1

      I believe he needed more guidance discipline and support from his parents and family and maybe he would have better control over his feelings

    • @tremainebligh8984
      @tremainebligh8984 Před 15 dny +1

      @@ChristopherLaw-qv4ou he never would have. I didnt get guidance off parents and i turned out to not shoot innocent people

  • @balmbert
    @balmbert Před 5 měsíci +39

    I feel like the fact that people need to have status to feel like somebody is a flaw in itself but idk

    • @lavarcity1013
      @lavarcity1013 Před 5 měsíci +23

      Then you don’t understand women or intersexual dynamics, or humans in general for that matter. Number one, we’re a flawed species, number 2 women are heavily attracted to status. That’s reason why when Drake walks in the club, every girl forgets about you and crowds around him. That status earns respect because it’s not easy to gain status. Drake has status because he makes music that people around the planet enjoy. That makes people want to be around him.
      Not taking shots here but only losers think they deserve attention for no other reason than the fact they’re alive. And it’s perfectly fine if you feel like somebody to you, but reality doesn’t care about what you think. Reality will show you whether you’re a somebody or not, as it did to the dude in the video. Reality doesn’t always reflect how we feel. I could feel like a million bucks with a skunk suit on, but if it stinks, people are gonna avoid me.

    • @felipe4477
      @felipe4477 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@lavarcity1013Based

    • @thinkingagain5966
      @thinkingagain5966 Před 5 měsíci +4

      ​@lavarcity1013 hard disagree. I had a lot of girls flirting w me and slipping me thier numbers back when i was a brokie working the cash register

    • @felipe4477
      @felipe4477 Před 5 měsíci

      @@thinkingagain5966Status is relative. If you are surrounded by losers, you may be the hot shet

    • @lavarcity1013
      @lavarcity1013 Před 5 měsíci

      @@thinkingagain5966 that’s because you can make up for a lack of aesthetics in different ways. Maybe you’re broke, but you have charm, and good looks. Women are attracted to a wide variety of things in men. That includes looks, status, money, confidence, charm, high intellect, height, game, dominance, etc.
      I’m currently a brokie but I still get girls trying to smash me as well. I hit the gym everyday, and was blessed with good looks. Learned game, gained confidence, and as I’m proving right now, I’m smarter than most. I could tell you bout a time a girl stopped me mid convo just to tell me she was horny from hearing me speak.
      Your experiences don’t disprove my point, I simply used an extreme example to paint a picture. The point is that there’s levels to this sh1t, and women typically place more importance on certain traits than others. However, they’re sometimes willing to take a risk and bet on potential, but gauging how many of their requirements you could possibly meet. When it comes to those requirements tho, status and money are at the top, because women look for security. One sign of security, is respect from your peers, aka status.
      You can disagree if you want, but I’m still right, so you’re disagreeing with facts.

  • @bbyblues2793
    @bbyblues2793 Před 5 měsíci +53

    I think the healthiest people have multiple sources of status

    • @joej3365
      @joej3365 Před 3 měsíci +10

      You are extremely correct. When your status is tested in other areas, your whole life doesn’t fall apart. Hence why you never revolve your life around a woman.

  • @jessie_ortega8095
    @jessie_ortega8095 Před 5 měsíci +14

    He will not let this fly

  • @Yourlocaldorito1227
    @Yourlocaldorito1227 Před 3 měsíci +12

    This is fake bruh

  • @chadk3857
    @chadk3857 Před 5 měsíci +15

    yo bro, wtf he was dead before demon hunters were added to the game, fake video, fake news

  • @Berberderk
    @Berberderk Před 3 měsíci +8

    Basically I felt that sexual frustration is what lead to his act because he wanted to lose his virginity so bad.

    • @Berberderk
      @Berberderk Před 3 měsíci +5

      like why do people act like there is more than what it is?

    • @johncase1353
      @johncase1353 Před 3 měsíci +6

      ​@@BerberderkI remember this one documentary on him a psychologist said he was the worst narcissist they had ever seen who honestly thought the world revolved around him, he was God's gift to the world so women should have been throwing themselves at him. There was even a section in his journal about when he was with his family at the premier of one of the Hunger Games movies (actually on the red carpet since his dad worked on it) he was upset and disgusted how Jennifer Lawrence or the other female actresses never came up and talked to him.

    • @Berberderk
      @Berberderk Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@johncase1353 That's interesting

  • @acardinalconsideration824
    @acardinalconsideration824 Před měsícem +2

    Various sources of status commonly prevent various days of retribution

  • @theguynamedgio
    @theguynamedgio Před 4 měsíci +10

    Was he bullied though? I seriously get the impression from his writings that he just had very terrible self image of himself that went up its own ass. The kid was troubled since before he started School and his father never noticed and his mother seemingly nurtured it.

    • @Cien22n2
      @Cien22n2 Před 4 měsíci +6

      he did, you can see it in a short 5 minutes video on his biography called "Elliot Rodger: His Biographical Manifesto"

    • @RedPlumber
      @RedPlumber Před 4 měsíci +3

      Elliot lacked basic social skills because he had everything handed to him and people found him weird from his incel behavior and distanced themselves, so no he wasn't.

    • @truthhammer69
      @truthhammer69 Před 4 měsíci

      @@RedPlumber Bs, he was socially awkward because genetoc predisposition and autism, I never had anything handed to me like he was and still had a lot of trouble getting laid.

    • @radikalray8510
      @radikalray8510 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@RedPlumberhe also had autism

    • @moviemaster5425
      @moviemaster5425 Před 2 měsíci +2

      he used to say that "i am handsome... i am sophisticated etc" but deep down he wondered what's wrong with me that girls don't want me.

  • @SirIsaacNewtonOG
    @SirIsaacNewtonOG Před měsícem +2

    How are you supposed to fix someone who obsesses over having a girlfriend, is insane enough to be prone to violence, and is too socially awkward for any woman to look at him? Someone please give me a suggestion, because I have no clue.

  • @siofrarafferty3821
    @siofrarafferty3821 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Glad Joe called him on his bullshit here.

  • @madatarchives8725
    @madatarchives8725 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Wow that was a bad take he didn't do what he did because people were playing games without him. He did it because he was a bitter anti social weirdo that had an identity crisis his entire life and couldn't muster the confidence to talk to a female

    • @johncase1353
      @johncase1353 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Being anti social is why he played WoW. While it might solely be because of it he felt betrayed by his only "friends" not wanting to play the game with him. Wish there was more context such as was it just them playing randomly thinking he wasn't going to log in that day or did they actually not want to talk to him anymore?
      As for women, former classmates said he did talk to them at college parties but was always extremely drunk which caused them to not want to be around him and surprisingly women did flirt with him but he always turned them down because they "weren't his type". He was looking for a trophy wife.

  • @mellowfellow845
    @mellowfellow845 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I seriously doubt that would’ve stopped him. He had people who tried to be friends with him, but he either messed it up due to his pettiness or abandoned them bc he felt they weren’t “cool” enough. And even if he were able to get a girlfriend, he would still find a way to justify that it wasn’t good enough for him. He was just a psychopath.

  • @DATsun727
    @DATsun727 Před 3 měsíci +4

    The “healthiest”/ happiest people in the world don’t chase status, to my belief. This is the core belief in one the most popular religions on earth.

  • @KeithSmith.
    @KeithSmith. Před 3 měsíci +11

    There's no definitive moment when he officially went crazy, but when he decided that he would never have the hot blonde girlfriend and massive fortune that he desired at a young age, life was no longer worth living.

    • @moviemaster5425
      @moviemaster5425 Před 2 měsíci +1

      not massive fortune dude.... he was eating lunch alone in his fkn BMW and wondered why no-one talks to him like dude wtf?? yeah it was all about women and his god complex... well he wasn't bad looking but i am more handsome than him but never cared why no girl wants me (i know they feel shy around me).

    • @RoundhouseKick27
      @RoundhouseKick27 Před 2 měsíci

      There’s ugly ass dudes that get good looking girls that’s what pissed him off lol I see it myself too all the time and wonder what they have to offer besides money he felt like women were hated him so he hated them too

    • @cohen30
      @cohen30 Před 2 měsíci

      @@moviemaster5425I guarantee you aren’t good looking. You’re probably some dumb ass on the internet who has a ego because tiktok said so gtfo

  • @darkwing5445
    @darkwing5445 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What’s the name of the song in the background?

  • @three33three33
    @three33three33 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Watched tons of videos about ER, this is not even close to the reason for the "Retribution" lmao...

  • @Gambit696
    @Gambit696 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The minute he said Wow I understand lol

  • @HR2007-o3f
    @HR2007-o3f Před 2 měsíci +1

    Who is the guest?

  • @tracebracci6506
    @tracebracci6506 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Anyone knows the music in the background

  • @JetsOnTop1
    @JetsOnTop1 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Joe missed the point tbh

  • @grivoise
    @grivoise Před 21 hodinou

    It may be that he was bullied, but also bullied for certain reasons. He had friends who tried to welcome him but eventually distanced themselves from him because they were uncomfortable with his mysiognist comments and dark behaviour (according to documentaries).
    For instance, he had told cops that a bunch of lads threw him off a balcony at a party but left out that he had tried to harrass three girls and push them off the balcony when drunk, and the lads intervened and it escalated.

  • @symonlitchfield6875
    @symonlitchfield6875 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Very sad.

  • @lavarcity1013
    @lavarcity1013 Před 5 měsíci +18

    He gave the answer for what’d make him happier, not what could’ve helped him avoid his mistakes. The answer is a strong masculine father figure, more time touching grass, and actual achievements in life. People feel depressed and like shit when they feel they’re not progressing in life. The way to make you feel that you’re progressing is by making tangible achievements in life. Competence creates accomplishments that builds confidence. Hence why he needed the strong masculine figure. First gain competence by mastering a skill that you can monetize. With that skill, go out and collect your Pokémon badges. Those badges become a sign of your competence which makes you more attractive to women, and that builds your confidence.

    • @tangbein
      @tangbein Před 5 měsíci

      Well you can have success with women without achieving things. But for a person like him that was on the autism spectrum that might've helped.

    • @roselightcafe1754
      @roselightcafe1754 Před 5 měsíci +1

      WHAT.....😵‍💫⁉️

    • @scouseshamrock2513
      @scouseshamrock2513 Před 5 měsíci

      Errrrhhhhhh 😦

    • @lavarcity1013
      @lavarcity1013 Před 5 měsíci

      @@roselightcafe1754 do I need to say it slower for you?? Com-pe-tence. Creates. A-ccom-plish-ments. Which. Builds. Con-fi-dence.
      All these things garner respect from your peers, and respect is how men feel loved. This in turn makes men happy, therefore, no need to go pew pew 🔫. Very simple

    • @lavarcity1013
      @lavarcity1013 Před 5 měsíci

      @@scouseshamrock2513 just read what I wrote to the other dude. This isn’t a hard concept to understand 🤦🏾‍♂️. Feels like I share a planet with Neanderthals.

  • @Ralphies_Mom
    @Ralphies_Mom Před 2 hodinami

    Joe. You are not the smartest man in the room

  • @millennialsecularandauthri3338

    “He got to the highest level which is apparently a rare thing to do” WoW is based around end game content.

  • @jakemorrison8507
    @jakemorrison8507 Před 4 měsíci +1

    So whats the point? Just ban the game?

  • @tiawheeler1153
    @tiawheeler1153 Před 22 dny

    In all honesty, there were a lot of factors that went into making Rodger the way he was... and the video game is not one of them.
    He used the game to hide from his issues but the truth is that his problems stem from an over-inflated and fragile ego, a warped sense of how the world works, an inferiority-superiority complex, a lot of entitlement, and an unwillingness to address his issues.

  • @alexdagg4200
    @alexdagg4200 Před 2 měsíci

    how on earth did this guy funnel world of warcraft into homicide? actually insane

  • @nicolejay4153
    @nicolejay4153 Před 3 měsíci

    Henry cavill . World of Warcraft . Come on Joe

  • @shaikhroman9764
    @shaikhroman9764 Před 5 měsíci +1

    A.I. is scary

  • @joleenlinks7513
    @joleenlinks7513 Před 21 dnem

    Guess person just never knows. Guess be kind. Guess cannot fix him. Who is responding for him😢

  • @eluriaziani7985
    @eluriaziani7985 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That’s not what happened at all 😂 and it wasn’t him being bullied it was his parents enabling him and making him think everything should be given to him including womens attention

  • @atuanyaalpheusthememeparod1605

    Damn I'm starting to think I'm not such a 🤓 after all mf was a real 🤓

  • @yassin.o.a8907
    @yassin.o.a8907 Před 2 měsíci

    The point went over Joe Rogans smooth head I watched it glide over his head. Bruh the world of war craft was the straw that broke the camels back

  • @kostass290
    @kostass290 Před 2 měsíci

    That 'world of warcraft' explanation has got to be the dumbest take on that case.

  • @tedkhoong
    @tedkhoong Před měsícem

    Joe Rogan called out this guy's BS on the spot. 😂 Elliot literally it's 'cause of women not being attracted to him.

  • @JoshHipHopLivin
    @JoshHipHopLivin Před 3 měsíci +1

    So all that bs happened because he got his feelings hurt? Lol wow.

  • @Khalid_Bin_Waleed
    @Khalid_Bin_Waleed Před 6 měsíci +6

    He was so arrogant tho

  • @lesliedizon4765
    @lesliedizon4765 Před 4 měsíci +1

    ⚠️

  • @sutttttttttttt
    @sutttttttttttt Před měsícem

    He was planning it for years and that's not what happened

  • @dandehmer6487
    @dandehmer6487 Před 5 měsíci

    I saw this video on him gotta watch it insane

  • @willt.9654
    @willt.9654 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Doesn’t help that guns are so easy to procure in the US.

    • @TheIronWolf22
      @TheIronWolf22 Před 3 měsíci +5

      A lot of countries allow you to have handguns. And in some countries like Afghanistan you can get a gun even easier.

    • @iggy3200
      @iggy3200 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Lol not really bro. Have you gone through the background checks necessary to obtain a firearm?

    • @johncase1353
      @johncase1353 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Did you forget the first 3 victims were his roommates and he used a knife not a gun. So should we ban knives?

    • @johncase1353
      @johncase1353 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@iggy3200 Maybe in California or New York it's hard to buy one legally. Here in Kentucky to buy a hand gun you have to go through a 5 day to week wait for a background check and as long as you haven't committed a violent crime or you are not a felon you can buy one. Yet if I want to buy a shotgun, rifle or even an AR I just need a valid license saying I'm of age and I can walk out the store with it after purchase.

  • @KolchaksGhost
    @KolchaksGhost Před 2 měsíci

    Complete lie. That is not what made Elliot snap. He snapped because he was beat up by a bunch of frat guys at a party and all the women laughed at him

  • @PERKIODURKIO
    @PERKIODURKIO Před 24 dny

    Joe is such an airhead

  • @BRM1993
    @BRM1993 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Cannot constantly live in a false reality and then when you destroy that reality which is ALL they have these weirdos snap. Get a life. Move with a purpose and force yourself through difficult situations in life or else you end up like this. Inexcusable.

    • @chadk3857
      @chadk3857 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Bro you got 0 idea what you talking about, He PVP, PVPer dont live in " False Reality" or whatever you thinkin, you dont know whatcha talk about . PVPers take all the magic out of anything, bro was living HIS REALITY. how many wow top pvpers u know?
      cause i know most and wow ain't no fantasy game at all everyone who plays know thar it about his World Ranking (usa china SA AUS Eur)
      not fantasy. you not listening the dude say he was on Top and his team found someone else, it like being cut from a basketball team. He lost one of things he was most proud of.. u ever pvp a Korean?????

    • @BRM1993
      @BRM1993 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@chadk3857 hahahaha you did not just add all this extra shit that I don’t believe or even mention cause your tryna justify this?? Got me dying laughing bro 🤣 shut yo ass up CHAD 😂🤣

    • @Scandiniva123
      @Scandiniva123 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Exactly well said 👏👏

    • @BRM1993
      @BRM1993 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Scandiniva123 👍🏽

    • @Scandiniva123
      @Scandiniva123 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@BRM1993 👍

  • @m0thdm
    @m0thdm Před 2 měsíci

    Joe is so dense

  • @kylavictoria333
    @kylavictoria333 Před 6 měsíci

    What ep

  • @ftred8739
    @ftred8739 Před 2 měsíci

    Too late

  • @shinakuma5567
    @shinakuma5567 Před 2 měsíci

    Mistery methodi e comunidade PUA ao invés da Incel mudaria tudo para Elliot

  • @roostersdragoons4947
    @roostersdragoons4947 Před 4 měsíci

    Listen to reddx he reads his whole Manifesto Warcraft didn't do anything. He wanted people and girls to come up to him. He did not talk to them He thought he deserved the attention.

  • @Zed7762
    @Zed7762 Před 16 dny

    So inaccurate

  • @stuartnevins8098
    @stuartnevins8098 Před 6 měsíci +38

    This is what happens when people live in a fantasy world instead if reality. Instead of hanging out and living life he was in his room on his computer and wondered why he didnt have a girlfriend. It will get much worse. A.I. is here and its going to breed all kinds of psychopaths

    • @sammiside8074
      @sammiside8074 Před 6 měsíci +7

      You're goddamn right friend

    • @mattybadger13
      @mattybadger13 Před 6 měsíci +55

      No this is what happens when you combine relentless bullying with an already fragile social presence. Living in a fantasy world is the symptom not the cause. Shunning people from society has statistically led to aggressive behavior from those shunned.

    • @sinr247
      @sinr247 Před 6 měsíci +17

      Go ahead and tell me how you don't know shit about how life works

    • @softlightlaboratory
      @softlightlaboratory Před 6 měsíci +2

      Sum people suck that's it don't try to give it a deep meaning

    • @softlightlaboratory
      @softlightlaboratory Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@mattybadger13no just bad people who did a bad thing to a guy who hoped to a be a good guy

  • @Jaxzay
    @Jaxzay Před 14 dny

    OvER

  • @Bodyscout
    @Bodyscout Před 6 dny

    ovER

  • @user-is3yn7xr4c
    @user-is3yn7xr4c Před 16 dny

    This guy literally blames the "received bullying in school" of the killer and world of warcraft... rather than his parents' negligence of his medical condition for years.

  • @RichardMitchell-nk9ec
    @RichardMitchell-nk9ec Před 2 měsíci

    He was playing games with me dont protect me let the people know yo he olayed ultima online with me said he cant get women even tho hes rich i asked what race he was i complained and said how come. Nobody can get girls not even a zuperior white asian guy you should go be mad about it

    • @cohen30
      @cohen30 Před 2 měsíci

      You lack in the disease of stupidity

  • @pafriciaboylan8888
    @pafriciaboylan8888 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow what an ugly vibe

  • @mikepiccolo32
    @mikepiccolo32 Před měsícem

    Money spoiled rotten and violent video games is rampent today

  • @johnnymolten7689
    @johnnymolten7689 Před 6 měsíci +1

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