.I am a person who uses the 3 section staff in the video. people called me I've seen many comments, and I'll explain a little bit. I made that weapon for sparring myself. Since safety was the top priority, a light ppc pipe was used. For this reason, it was a safety weapon with strong repulsion after hitting. Because of its strong repulsive force, it is more difficult to control than the actual weapon. The 3 section staff is more efficient in a wider space. And that studio had a low ceiling. Due to space problems, more technology could not be shown. That weapon is 350 grams. It's very light, right? Three-section staff made of hard wood, or aluminum or steel, is very dangerous. I always think about the safety of my sparring colleague. And the 3 section staff is a weapon that is difficult to use with a fencing mask. This weapon requires users to have a wide view. This is because the wrong usage hurts the user himself. The 3 section staff is personally a weapon of tremendous power. There are many comments comparing swords and killing power. However, if you are not wearing armor, the 3 section staff can also beat the swordsman. In the situation of wearing armor, I am confident that the spear is the most lethal. I've been doing martial arts for 30 years. In my experience, spear and poleam are the most effective murder weapons. And in fact, I'm an expert in creation. Next time, I will show you my creativity. (^^) I'm making all the sparring safety weapons myself. This is very safe and fun.
This is the 1st time I’ve seen someone competent with a three section staff actually spar somebody with it and make it effective. It’s hard to block that thing cause it has a tendency to wrap around any blocks-I need to practice with mine again- love this channel!
The wrap around is what makes any flail type weapon deadly, it one of the advantages against swordsman even with a shield, the flail end can wrap around and hit around a shield, so when parrying or blocking, you must do so at the chain (that is if it the end piece isn't long enough to reach you, and you must not block it the same way you could block a strike from a sword, in the case of nuchucks, but with a block it would still hit your arm as it goes around) but if in the case of fighting against a three section staff like this, you can't block it at either chain, you will get hit blocking it, you must parry, dodge or duck out of the way or block it right at the end piece, but you must keep every part of your body out of the path it is swung or you will get hit This is difficult to say the least if you are unused to fighting someone with it, a three section staff has excellent reach like a spear, can execute straight strikes as well and effective at close or long range, so against a skilled fighter, don't even think about 'Closing the distance' as you would with other melee weapons, but as with any weapon the best way to train to fight and defend against it is to train to use it; the best way to get a feel for the range and capabilities of any weapon: sword, flail, dagger or firearm is by knowing how to use it, and being familiar of its capabilities
It looks like one of the major strengths of this weapon, besides its reach and its ability to store a lot of momentum, is that it has so many "ready positions" that the wielder can use. If an oppenent is not familiar with this weapon, you could change the ready position after every couple of attacks, limiting their ability to adapt and predict what will happen next.
Always wondered how a three-section staff worked. I think the sword guy was a little too cautious, but I also wouldn't have any idea how to deal with that long-ranged aggression myself.
I was thinking the same thing. I can't help but think if the swordsman had accepted absorbing the hits with his shield and drove forwards with confidence he would have been more effective.
He just need roman`s shield and helmet and he easy block 99% attack of this triple nunchaku or shorter shield+spear to block and conter attack immediately...
It is easier said than done, when encounter this 3 sections pole, I assume the opponent is quite confused where to strike. The pole can strike either left or right, shot or long range, while the middle section is very good at defending. Any attack can be fend off by simple push. In fact, the guy with this 3 sections pole is not even a skill user, but still, he already inflict quite a lot of damage to the opponent. Very interesting drill indeed! give us a good view point of what a true fight is about. I will say, when I have to encounter a guy with 3 sections pole. Fight in a confine space may be the best way or with a long spear.
watch a movie called 36 chambers of shaolin. its about the invention of the tri form staff in china. in japan it was typically to my understanding shorter, and the "flail" should be tetsubo.
As someone who has been on the receiving end of the Triple Nunchaku. I can tell you its not easy to deal with and its hard to block. great video loved every minuet of this because it brought back old memories of my martial arts days. Thank you very much for this video.
I don't think it would be very effective in actual combat. It doesn't have the stomping power of a mace, and it's not a bladed weapon either. If the swordsman can mitigate the power of the blow even a tiny bit, then they can just tank it and go in for the kill. That's if we're talking a duel, but of course in war a three segmented staff like this would be even more useless. I'm convinced this only works for exhibition play-fighting.
I've never heard of it refered to as "triple nunchaku"... We always called it the "three sectional staff", or "Sansetsukon" (or ORIGINALLY it was known as "Sanjiegun"). But my old training partners and I preferred the former. But I'm sure you already knew that, and just simplified it for all the people who aren't really knowledgeable of traditional martial arts weapons. Either way,, that was a great demonstration!👍 It's truly a FORMIDABLE WEAPON to be proficient in!! But it's hard as hell to learn compared to nunchaku, escrima sticks, or the commonly known "Bo staff". I tried picking it up a little over 20 years ago (to add to my "weapons proficiencies list" lol...) But I didn't stick with it, after almost knocking my OWN A$$ out a few dozen times!! 😂 Now I've gotta go watch the rest of your videos, since I'm now in my 40's and need the motivation to try and get back into shape (like my mental new years resolutions said I would)!!👊😆
@@shk5253 Right... I was thinking about comparing "triple chaku" to "three sectional staff", or "sansetsukon" or something... "Triple chaku" is kinda easy to say (in comparison).
The problem with comparing a blunt and an edged weapon is their damage thresholds. If a blunt weapon hits you anywhere except the head, it has to be a solid enough hit to break a bone in order to do more than annoy you. A bunch of glancing hits and you're no worse off than taking a few punches. An edged weapon, on the other hand, starts a countdown timer on your life with every hit you take. Even just a couple shallow cuts can cause significant blood loss when you can't stop to bandage them.
exactly. I hope people realise that the only reason these things were used as weapons was because the laws forbade the populace from owning spears and swords.
having said that edged weapons need almost perfect edge alignment in order to cut (especially thin blades), which is not the case for blunt weapons because they're not edged weapons lol.
honestly, all I was thinking while watching this is "Looks hard to block, I'm gonna take one hit of that on purpose and bullrush inside their reach" this feels like they really let the person freely display what the 3 staff can di rather than actually try and stop them
As one who has fought a fair bit against some wild weapons like the 3 section staff, I will say the shield user is very cautious and afraid of getting hit. It may have been the room you were sparring in that you couldn't show its full range, but there were many times I noticed you trying to bait the shield out, and had he actually taken it, you would have lost more than you did.
also it is basically a heavy quarter staff vs. a buckler/medium size shield; just hammer it and you will fck up the hand and arm underneath in like 3-4 hits, which if he is so defensive is only a couple of seconds... if he is this afraid all you need to do is just hammer him until he breaks (and he will pretty fast, like 1-2 hit connecting from distance to a limb and its basically over, else within 8-10 hits you've done so much blunt impact dmg the fight is also over.^^
@@liamvandoorn5938nah man I mean, I remember being told the last movement you’d wanna do in a fight is lean back and away like that- you either step to the side or close the distance, you rarely wanna give up ground. And moving in reduces the staff’s usefulness a fair bit, a big part of the advantage is the space it can create along with the amount of range it’s got. Just gotta get whacked real good once to get a stab lol- 1:16 is a good example
@@Minecraft5690not the same story if u add a cama or spike at the end of the staff. It's not like only the sword and shield person can move. The staff man can just reset. Honestly capturing it to disarm would probably work best. The range on that weapon is real, and this was obviously point sparring. of course the sword is more lethal than a stick, but this wasn't a gladiator match.
This is brilliant. My favourite sessions with weapons have always been always mixed sparring. I love the safety version of the three staff, and I hope I get to fight someone with one, one day. Your video was very instructive. Some thoughts: It may make more sense for the win condition for the 3-staff user to be something like a blow to the head or two blows elsewhere, and the win condition for the swordsman to be a single blow anywhere. I imagine this would lead to less visually interesting bouts, as it would encourage the swordsman generally to rush forwards, however, I think it might lead to more enjoyable and instructive fights, as it means that the 3 staff users can't rely on unrealistic 1-hit kills from body shots, and would have to work harder to defend himself against the bladed weapon.
To bring so context the San Jie gun or three section staff was an urban weapon. Meant to be used in towns and cities you can tell because it is basically a concealable long staff. It was meant to deal with other concealable weapons like short swords, knives, sticks although in training it is confronted to all types of weapons. I have never seen it against shield and sword and yes many comments are correct the sword guy just has to rush in protecting the head and deal a stab or cut.
In training.. sure the guy 'should' rush. I'm going to play devil's advocate here and explain. So the three section staff outside of training would be made of more dangerous material. The guy training against the staff may grow used to just protecting his head and rushing forward- ignoring the blows to his legs and body. Now when that same fighter tries this out of training he will have his sternum, ribs, and legs broken because he did not respect the danger of the sectioned staff posed.
@@lelouchlamperouge5910 It's really not like a whip, I know theres alot of people claiming you can't break bones with nunchuk which you most certainly can, a sectioned staff would have even more power than that. What's worse you don't think a whip can break bones lool. Whips that were meant to kill had weights on the end of them... Which in skilled hands could break the sound barrier, and your face and skull or whatever else it happened to hit. Whips with weights were essentially a bullet on a string- saying they can't break bones is foolish.
The problem is that people who train to learn how to use reach will immediately know to backpedal as soon as you start charging. It’s really not so simple .
That 3 section staff looks mega brutal, and just like a flail it can strike over a shield and can strike behind the point of impact. It makes it difficult to block. But if the swordsman just accepted taking the hit on the shield and pushed forwards I bet he could have landed more hits. The 3 section staff is cool, but it can only be swung, so getting inside that arc will make it much less effective. I would love to see this pairing in a few weeks after they have fought a few more times, and I would really love to see a spear against this 3 section staff.
@@kcwliew technically yes but in the video he doesn't seem to do that. And if you think about how you swing a stick, if you want power it's not just a case of rotation, you move the stick in an ark using your whole upper body, like a baseball bat almost. I'm only speculating here but I would imagine having that bar in the middle makes it difficult to get any real power when swinging the end sticks on their own. However, one thing I didn't consider in my original comment was that you could 'fold' one of the end sticks over the middle one and just use it as a 2 section staff. This would be a bit cumbersome but would enable you to shorten your swing radius for closer ranges, but still give you respectable power on the swing. I would love to have a play with something like this as regardless of the criticisms it looks fun to use and I bet if you tested it on a dummy, a full swing from this would be strong enough to practically remove the face from the skull.
It was tried several times in this video. The staff-user can step back just as the swordsman steps in. It's a really uphill fight for a sword to have to cover that much ground just to get into attack range. A blunt weapon would honestly have more ease.
@@kinn11 therein lies the problem yeah. But I wonder how much force it has in that scenario. But it's the same issue as always with modern fights like this. They play to the first touch, whereas in reality all touches aren't equal, especially with a blunted weapon. Sometimes combat, like chess requires you to sacrifice a lesser hit so you can inflict a greater one. This argument has been made many times in other videos for sure and never resolved.
At last, someone who knows how to use the weapon. When it comes to effectivity between the two weapons, it's always up to the user's training and skills whichever wins or loses.
It looks like a very "committing" weapon. Once you swing you can't really change course or adjust it too much. So the counter lies not in parrying or blocking, but avoiding it and punishing misses. Even if there's a continuation strike, there should be a gap to rush, since the change in range would be a bitch to deal with.
Depending on the system you train it can be used many ways the end of the staff can be used to block and attack or you can swing it around your body to block and attack or close one end of stick and use it like a nun chuck or close all 3 and hit with it
@@RENO_K if you're outnumbered in a fight, you've already fucked up. Real life isn't a video game or anime. If you're fighting 3 people in a fight, you're a dead man
I personally wouldn't call that impressive or practical. Not trying to be "that guy" at all, but his movements were WAY too slow and he was missing catching it. A few aggressive, fast lunges would ruin him as an air breather.
My sensi taught me this weapon after I trained with more than 20. It is my fav technique and weapon of choice. It's blends escrima nunchauk and staff movements and mostly, is unstoppable. I make my own and train students when they are ready with them. A gun if close, can be easily removed from a fight. You have close to 12-17 feet of reach dependent on your height. I love this weapon of self defense😊😊😊😊
It's a shorter than a polearm but has several big advantages: 1). It's unpredictable to people unaccustomed to facing it. With polearm, you know how it'll move and what will happen if you block it a certain way; with this thing, most people probably don't. 2). It can wrap around a weapon or a shield, so distance, not parrying, is the best defense. 3). If an opponent closes the distance, the weapon can be used almost like two batons to block and strike back, as opposed to a polearm that has limited close-range mobility.
@@OceanHedgehog They can be parried, although they way that you parry flail-type weapons differs significantly compared to most weapons. Rather than blocking as far out as possible as against most weapons, the chain/rope and weight will wrap around with a flail from the sudden stop. Rather, you want to block either very far down (angling it such that the haft extends too far away to wrap around and hit your, or hit you hard enough), or at the base of the tethered weight (to break the stability and inertia and to make it unable to reach you by the angle). Or, such applies to single-articulated flails. This thing probably differs a bit, although I am sure a more complicated version of the same principles apply. That said, yeah, these things are nigh-impossible to defend against if you do not understand _how_ to, and as they were always relatively uncommon, that understanding was fairly rare.
This simply showed that the fighter with the 3-sectional staff (NOT triple nunchaku) was more proficient (at times) with his weapon than the sword fighter was with his. And that's what it usually boils down to - the person more proficient with his particular method wins.
From what I can see, one of the main challenges using the three-section staff is being able to quickly change which section(s) to grip. It looks difficult to master!
Sparred vs these myself. They're extremely easy to overpower. You just can't be timid like the swordsman. It's no more difficult to fight than a polearm. You're at a reach disadvantage, but unlike a polearm, they can't hold it out for their own distance control. The wrapping around your block is 100% a problem, but with practice, a 3 part staff is easier to block than a chain weapon of similar length, and unlike a true polearm, it won't blow through your block.
Only works if your opponent is at a distance, not to mention they are sparring. In a real situation a professional would take a glancing blow to get in close and it would be over.
I really like the versatility of the 3-section-staff because you can switch to melee and distanced weapon any time which ruins the technique of your opponent.he will be disrupted every time you switch stance. Also, almost any opponent wouldn't know of how fatal the switch from mid to long distance of the staff within a swing.this was demonstrated while the opponent's shield was up and the staff user hits the shield with the mid section thus propelling the outwards section to hit the head with a force which can break skull
This is so awesome,, I love how we get to see someone who is actually trained to use the equipment.. as far as I know,, the folks using claws, spears,, and soft weapons have all been "guest" fighters, so to speak. Like viewers know a key set of players that are often around, and then we get to see archers and people with diverse experience plying their skills. This is in one of my top 10 favorite CZcams channels.. thanks so much for making them.. . Also, I've seen a video of what appears to be American folks in a formal martial arts setting wielding this weapon and ONLY holding one far end and swinging it as a whip. I was beyond diappointed.
Nice work. Grate use of the section staff I have trained with a wooden set several times and I agree with you . It is a powerful extension of the bodie not easy to use but with practice and safety it is fun and very effective. Grate form .
The person wielding the staff was actually demonstrating some good technique and used the weapon well. The person wielding the sword, however, did not have the same level of skill with his own weapon. I does appear also a great many of the "strikes" made by the staff as they wrapped around the sword/shield would have done nothing in the way of damage. The direct strikes, however, are another matter.
@@Uouttooo There was a Discovery Channel show YEARS back that test the damage output on weapons and one of them was a Nunchaku. The readings IIRC from the Nunchaku was that it was far less than what most people thought. Sure I bet it would definitely hurt against an unarmored opponent...but on a battlefield where most opponents in the past wore armor and at least a helmet...I dont think that is the kind of weapon you want to bring with you. Its not going to be enough to stop a determined armored swordsman to rush in and stab you.
@@coderonix4501 I don't believe the 3-section staff or the nunchaku were used in wars. They were urban weapons. So talking about war armor was kind of a moot point.
It's easy to say what should be done when you're not getting a segmented staff swung in your face. So I will! My guess is...First thing, standing back and blocking all day while not in range to strike is guaranteed defeat. Second thing, an observation, the three-section staff has no quick attacks. It requires momentum and a clear starting position/angle for everything. Even that rapid twirling move can't change directions. He can't fake you out and suddenly strike up or sideways. So you either have to get in fast, before he has time to get the weapon moving, or charge in behind a shield and not give him time to change his attack direction. You're still at a range disadvantage, but maybe spear and shield could help with that. Really fun fight to watch!
This is one of the answer to your attack suggestion 0:51 and it can be done in multiple directions, the staff doesn't need momentum if you know how to use it with footsies, it's just slower than nunchuck but hits harder and does not ricochet back at you badly unlike the unreliable nunchucks. Also the rapid twirling can change direction upon hit, it's an attacking feint to zero in on reactions. All twirling attacks with weapons are meant to make the ignorant think "all show and can't work" so you can make them sucker no.1... Assuming you know the dirty tricks of what weapon twirling is for that is.
Exactly. It would be a different story if that sword was sharp. With dummy swords the nunchucks are scarier but IRL I think he would be a lot more cautious and lose the advantage.
@@timothyboland2629 the main issue I have with the staff is the adrenaline. If the dude with the sword is pumping adrenaline, how many of those strikes would it take? That thing unleashed a lot of strikes, and there would be more under his adrenaline. That sword was made for stabbing, and all it would take is one stab. This is one of the best fights they've put out.
@PJ Rivera you're right. The staff needs to be made of something that can break bone, which would remove speed. If it was steel, it could break an ankle, but the whole staff would be too heavy to fight with. A hit to the wrist, with a steel one, could break the wrist. A real fight between these 2 weapons would be like that trans woman fighting the cage fighter.
I always thought the three sectional staff was really cool MA weapon. Now I think it might be one of my favorites. And you can tell those hits hurt, lol. I love the video but im glad.I wasnt the one catching the shots 😂
Maybe... but none of them would kill you. The sword on the other hand... far more lethal. I'd prefer spear or heck, even a knife. I can take a good whack, I just need to get up close and end the fight.
Gordon Liu demonstrates the 3 Section Nunchucks in 36 Chambers of Shaolin. It's very effective. Even when blocked it finds a potential opening. Loved this video and the Demonstration.
Its interesting how nunchaku benefits from being the aggressor :) Normally a fighter who is patient, defensive but also good at fast counterattack, wins.. But not here haha.
Most weapon based systems from around the world reward aggression. Simply because you absolutely cannot get hit, so whoever takes the initiative is by default in control of the fight. The Germans call this "seizing the vor", and venetian rapier master nicoletto giganti refers to it with his concept of obeyance, or the idea of forcing your opponent to commit to certain defensive actions that you can exploit.
@@swordpvnk Yeah I realized that I don't know enough about armed combat, that's why I commented below, that I was talking about unarmed combat, where you are open to an attack the moment you start an offensive yourself :)
@@sorendk1 There are defensive styles in armed combat too and if the deffender is skilled enough he can provoke some action from his opponent to let him reveal his intent and break it by better timing, but when the attack is strong and technically good and it is sophisticated technique - covering attack like "master cuts" then you can still lose if you are defending, unless you are superior at judging distance.
@@swordpvnk the Japanese have "Go no sen" "Sen no sen" "Sen sen no sen" I think i can hit him so im going to. Im going to force a parry then hit him. And im going to make him think he can hit me so i can hit him.
I would love to see it's full potential in an outside setting. I've dabbled in 3 section (although my main weapon is rope dart) and yes they can be hard to control,but this was a great example of what it's potential can be.
Bottom line, it will hurt, it's unlikely to incapacitate you with a single hit especially since it'll likely be a body strike. Rush in, take the hit, kill the opponent.
@@frankwashburn6680 how would they avoid being charged at and stabbed tho? Idk anything about this type of stuff but I can't really think of any scenario where he'd get a hit deadly enough to incapacitate the sword fella before getting stabbed
Great Exhibition! A fearsome reached weapon that can be adjusted for close combat. And yes, kinetic impact can be as deadly as any slash. Get enough velocity on a piece of hardwood or metal and it will crack/break bones, including the skull. And as @흥감독TV stated, spears were hands down the workhorse of wars, due to a variety of reasons. Cheap to produce compared to many shorter arms such as swords, and require less training to organize in a fighting formation, many of which are highly defensive, and deadly on the scale of an amassed battlefield.
the lethality of the blows is irrelevant in a fight, only stopping power matters. and those cracks over the head would stop someone for sure, even in armor, as blunt trauma to the helmet was the most common way of dealing with heavy armor. to be honest, if you tell me i have to fight a guy in full plate id rather go for a staff than a sword (not a sectioned staff, though, to high a skill gap)
@@ignis6591 It's a possibility. But I'd still think that the armored knight would have better chances. He'd only need to kill the momentum and he gets advantage.
@@pyramid_scheme_termination3655 not necessarily against an an opponent with a helmet, which was OP's point. but as I said, that is irrelevant because even the normal wood variation would cause trauma to the head from a helmet impact, probably a severe concussion. additionally, if the staff was made out of steel it would weigh significantly more than is acceptable for wieldiness.
Has he never used a sword? He lacks all sort of aggressivity or tactic. When the other guy is rotating the other weapon he's got more than time enough to charge, hit him with the shield in the face and then slice it to death.
@@ehisey And you are ignoring everything I've written. I stand by my comment word by word. The guy with a sword is scared and he's not a good opponent. He is clumsy and incompetent.
He maybe scared, but you seem unaware that you planned tactic is not nearly as effective as you indicated. While better than staying out of sword range and just getting hit, the slow lazy arcs are a trap. Trying to charge in was done in the clip early and resulted in getting hit.
@@ehisey Thing is, with a weapon like this getting hit isn't a death sentence usually, and getting in quickly also mitigates the hit. If you're at the range where they'll strike using the full reach of the weapon, quickly darting in and taking the hit further down the weapon means much less damage. And because they committed to a full reach strike, you're going to be able to land a quick but likely fatal blow before they can really do anything. The weapon may be good in both close range and further away, but you can't instantly transition from a finishing/just finished full reach strike to a proper close range attack that's going to successfully stop the stabby man in time. It's a similar principle to defending against a roundhouse kick in unarmed combat, you rush in and grab/block the leg close to the body because the force is much weaker there and then counter while they're still committed. Obviously the parallels aren't exact. And the counterplay to that is to not overextend, which makes it harder to get a good opportunity to push in, but there's two problems there. One, that pulls back a lot on your reach advantage, since you aren't using the full force of that reach due to its exploitability. Two, this guy doesn't do that. There are multiple times where he makes a big long swing that is telegraphed enough to easily make that rush in, even early in the clip. The other guy just doesn't capitalize at all.
@@jonathanrussell8998 You dont seem to realize that getting in close is not getting hit by a lesser part of the weapon. it is designed to be hit with just the near section at full power. From actual first hand experience fighting with and against this weapon, you can very quickly swap from long to short, as the typical long strike is only the middle (which is held) and the end section. This makes extremely fast to swap to the near end for defense. When used to strike at the full 3 length distance it is 9 feet, which is very hard to close faster than the wielder can recover.
I have never trained with this weapon. Looks like it is difficult to learn. Also looks like it is VERY effective if you do manage to master it. The strikes are so fast it is very hard to defend. Strikes come from all kinds of strange angles. It has a ton of reach. Seems to not do well up close, so seems the best defense would be an aggressive up close approach.
Yes. In reality i think Thats why a variation of that thing Was a farming implement and not a weapon. It was rather what farmers used to whack their harwested produce to separate it from the hausks etc. So they had it in hand and could use it for self defence.
Very high skill cap. I feel like the video doesn’t even explore the potential for a more ambidextrous approach. They’re always leading with right hand to strike. I imagine a more skilled practitioner could be spinning around more and able to strike with counter clockwise left handed attacks as well.
Effective against who? Compared to what? Just saying, swords are much more versatile because they have solid form and a bladed edge. Hell, you can get more versatility and force out of a staff of the same material. I'm not denying the pain the weapon can inflict or the skill of the user, I just doubt it would be nearly as effective as most other weapons.
watching him use the 3 section staff sparked interest in me to learn how to use it; I've seen this weapon for years but only until this video did I ever consider trying to learn; THANK YOU WEAPONISM!
One thing most people who haven't practiced with weapons is that, in general, when it comes to actually engaging your opponent, the longer the reach of a weapon, the more defensive its use is. The farther away you can keep an opponent, the further away you are from harm. This also means that the longer the weapon, the less likely your opponent is to be similarly armed. This duel demonstrates this concept wonderfully. Yes, this means that under the circumstances of engaging an opponent, a sniper rifle is technically a highly defensive weapon.
*maki zenin and toji fushiguro have entered the chat* jokes aside there's a show/anime called jujutsu kaisen that makes the triple nunchucks look insane to say the least.
Very cool demonstration of the mastery on the 'triple nunchaku', unfortunately the adversary doesnt seem confortable with his weapons so the discrepency in mastery level is a bias the comparison. The equipement too (the shield is way too small and doesn't fit in this context). It ain't easy facing a blunt weapon, but as said below the idea with you have edged versus blunt is to go into you distance protecting your head, accepting a couple blunt blows in exchange for good ol' slashy stabby :p But still, pretty neat demo :)
"unfortunately the adversary doesnt seem confortable with his weapons so the discrepency in mastery level is a bias the comparison" - this was my exact thought. The fact that he leads with the shield and tucks his head like he's afraid to get hit instead of moving his shield and sword at the same time tell me he doesn't do a lot of shield/sword training. The staff is a neat weapon, but I'd like to see it up against a much more competent opponent wielding more conventional weapons.
You also gotta keep in mind they're not in a real fight and how much energy you'd have to put in wielding one weapon or the other. The three-section staff requires a lot more energy to be wield than a sword. Specially if you're trying to actually hurt your opponent.
Never was convinced on the effectiveness of three section nunchucks and I'm still not . Very interesting to watch as they made this a competitive sport. I'd love a try 👍
I doubt it would be an effective weapon in self defense, or in battlefield situations, flails are everything this thing wants to be. In a competition though, smart.
I think the best way to fight this type of 3 section staff is, to REDUCE THE DISTANCE between the enemy and the person. The more you go back, the more this weapon is effective. So the advice is,- 1. WAIT FOR HIM TO STRIKE IN LONG RANGE. 2. BLOCK STRIKE AND SWEEP AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN. 3. DONT SLASH, STAB.
Used to train with one of these years ago. Fun, powerful but difficult to master. Never seen anyone use one to grapple before. Risky move but still cool to see.
Just wondering, is this person using a safe training version of the 3 part weapon or does it just look like it isn't deadly at all? Or are they meant to have spikes/blades on 1 of the 3 nu chuck parts?
It's a 3 section staff, a Cantonese weapon. When the Cantonese is translated in to English I believe it becomes 'the Coiled Dragon'. A difficult weapon to learn but very rewarding when your a practiced user. Excellent display that I will be showing to my ' the sword is better' friends!
Very nice. Every weapon has its strengths and weaknesses. It’s nice to see modern theory put to the test. 3 section staff seems much more efficient then I once thought. But it’s more a non-lethal option.
I mean, this is "martial arts", with emphasis on the arts. Kendo, Fencing, etc are not about realizing or effective combat. In a real fight somebody with a knife and armor could just jump at this whimsy staff, get him on the ground, and start stabbing wildly with the knife. This staff thing is only useful if the target wears no armor. Take a bunch of strings, and then a strong fan, and you have the ultimate weapons when it comes to these kinds of "martial arts". Long range, and no way to avoid all of the strings. No way it'd be lethal, but "a hit is a hit".
@@muuubiee I wonder if armor is really needed. I train in escrima. In the beginning your really scared to get hit. After years of training you get hit a lot. Anyway I wonder how hard most shots really are. I'm sure some would stop you but many look very light. Just a thought
@@vincentlee7359 No, Nonlethal. At least compared to a sword or Knife. Killing someone with that is like killing someone with your fist. You can do it, but its not normally the goal.
From what I observed from this video, Jet Li’s “Fearless”, and “The 36th Chamber of Shaolin”, it appears that this weapon has more defensive capabilities than nunchucks. The middle section seems to be a viable part for blocking, when holding the end sections.
I like how in 36 chambers he uses the two end sections as sticks also. Super versatile weapon. When you pull the two ends the chain does get very tight and is solid for blocking glancing blows but it would not be viable for something with more mass. Like all weapons there are weaknesses to it, like the chain is on this one. I have been using the 3 sectional staff for a little over 20 years now. I love it and this person is really skilled with it. I have never attempted to do any sparring outside of the kung fu two man sets tho. Bravo for making this work.
I think the most reasonable strategy with a rapier sword against blunt weapons should be straight rush to stab as quickly as u can even if that could mean eating a blow of the enemies weapon. If u dont do it, the fight could be friggin endless.
Wow! What a great weapon! Having practice weaponry for 45 years I absolutely believe the staff can beat out a sword if the one using the staff is competent....especially with the staffs that are available today being made of aircraft grade aluminum. A few companies that come to mind are kombativ and karate mart with the later being around for decades.
In real life, with two people who have the same level of training, the person wielding a staff (stick without a blade) would die every time. Hits by a unsharpened stick (staff) may cause pain but the bladed stick (sword) causes life threatening damage every single time it strikes.
Even though the triple staff hits and has the ability to wrap round weapons or Sheilds, what real damage do they cause compared to a sword? Not forgetting if opponent were to be armoured would it even be an effective weapon.
@@Uouttooo Even so would it really perform better than a straight weapon ie axe, mace, sword etc. Most chain like weapons like these were more gimicky than actually effective and damage causing.
Bludgeon weapons are miles better than a blade against a heavy/plate armored opponent. Asides from later can-openers, a hammer can seriously daze or cause internal injury on a hit - and that's the most you can hope for to incapacitate or disable such an opponent. After all, the extra metal only adds to the ringing as it hits.
I love the 3 section staff since the first time I saw it in a movie. Gordon Liu's 36th Chambers of Shaolin and Shaolin Challenges Ninja, I need to bring it out again.
Just gonna be blunt here... against stick just charge while protecting your head and cut or pierce vital and there you go , you might have some bruise or broken bone but it less worst than a cut from a blade (but in sport and sparring or unarmored opponent i can alway see the usefullness of a good blow to the head)
When the 3 section staff wraps around, you can decrease the force if youre stepping toward it, but increase the force while stepping back. Def dont stop moving. When the guy does continuous swimgs or holds both ends of the staff, just charge in because he cant hit hard, grapple, block, or tie you up efficiently. If you get touched by the staff, it aint a sword so it doesnt make sense to stop moving and reset. Finally, dont stay far because that ia his effective range, not yours. Go in and take a hit or 2 if necessary on the shield or your arm, then chop him to pieces.
Careful getting close to this weapon. It is a pretty effective short range and grappling tool also. Long range is 6 to 9 ft, mid range is 3 to 6, and 0 to 3 is the grapple to short distance, so it is a bit of a pikc your poison and figure out which range is the wielders worst.
@@ehisey grappling someone with a dagger or even a sword while trying to maintain your grip on a 2 handed striking weapon sounds like straight suicide. I would be shocked if any of the close range strikes were debilitating. Painful, sure, but not debilitating. The challenge for the swordsman is to get inside without a broken skull, leg, or sword arm from those nasty long range shots. That’s a genuinely daunting prospect, but if they get Inside then it’s over.
@@b_t_s8792 lets start with it assumption it is only a 2 handed weapon, works well one handed. As to grappling it has several chokes and bars. Typically it use chain not rope and can generate enough vice force to crack bone. Against a sword sheild combo ot is a better grappling tool. A knife do to smaller size is superior in a grapple but then is also superior to a sword in a grapple.
The sword is the superior weapon... i trained with a staff for years and most of thise strikes would be ineffective. The sword is a leathal force weapon. It is a lot easier to utilise a bladed weapon against the staff once youve trained with both. Kudos to both guys for demonstrating skills and good/fair sparring techniques with control 👏
Maybe because it is a blunt weapon? If you compare it to a bladed weapon well it works kinda differently.. but I dont think it makes the blunt weapon 'ineffective'. If you use such method of comparison, sword would be ineffective against guns and bombs.
@@geoffreyjaurissa2438 thats not true sai's are a blunt weapon and I prefer those to a single handed sword. 😉 thats funny, the reason I made the comparison is because that is litterally what is being compared in the video... its not knife versus gun, its two weapons I train with so my point remains valid.
Many of the connecting strikes from the staff would have been worthless in a real fight. Unlike a sword, which can do damage from indirect grazing, a staff or any other blunt weapon requires force. A blow without force only angers the opposition. There were also some sword strikes that were not counted. It’s fine if you want to count “points” for demonstration purposes, but in reality, the sword fighter would have won in this pairing of people. You can’t use the same measure of lethality with a blunt weapon and an edged/pointed weapon.
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.I am a person who uses the 3 section staff in the video. people called me
I've seen many comments, and I'll explain a little bit. I made that weapon for sparring myself. Since safety was the top priority, a light ppc pipe was used. For this reason, it was a safety weapon with strong repulsion after hitting. Because of its strong repulsive force, it is more difficult to control than the actual weapon. The 3 section staff is more efficient in a wider space. And that studio had a low ceiling. Due to space problems, more technology could not be shown.
That weapon is 350 grams. It's very light, right? Three-section staff made of hard wood, or aluminum or steel, is very dangerous. I always think about the safety of my sparring colleague. And the 3 section staff is a weapon that is difficult to use with a fencing mask. This weapon requires users to have a wide view. This is because the wrong usage hurts the user himself.
The 3 section staff is personally a weapon of tremendous power. There are many comments comparing swords and killing power. However, if you are not wearing armor, the 3 section staff can also beat the swordsman. In the situation of wearing armor, I am confident that the spear is the most lethal. I've been doing martial arts for 30 years. In my experience, spear and poleam are the most effective murder weapons.
And in fact, I'm an expert in creation. Next time, I will show you my creativity. (^^) I'm making all the sparring safety weapons myself. This is very safe and fun.
Thanks for the explanation. Awesome technique, and good idea to make it out of pvc.
Great demonstration, regardless of the circumstances and modifications done. Bravo!
Minion, gun, arrow, spear, in that order. Everything else is playing catch-up, because range is king.
I live your perspective! I create all of my own practice weapons as well! I would love to share experiences
@@brentbingham4886 sure. Thanks your comment. I will show how to make it on my
This is the 1st time I’ve seen someone competent with a three section staff actually spar somebody with it and make it effective. It’s hard to block that thing cause it has a tendency to wrap around any blocks-I need to practice with mine again- love this channel!
Watch some dog brothers videos, there is an excellent Wushu laoshi combats with San Jie gun as well
So does a regular chain (to a greater extent)and I wonder 🤔 how competent is the sword men
The wrap around is what makes any flail type weapon deadly, it one of the advantages against swordsman even with a shield, the flail end can wrap around and hit around a shield, so when parrying or blocking, you must do so at the chain (that is if it the end piece isn't long enough to reach you, and you must not block it the same way you could block a strike from a sword, in the case of nuchucks, but with a block it would still hit your arm as it goes around) but if in the case of fighting against a three section staff like this, you can't block it at either chain, you will get hit blocking it, you must parry, dodge or duck out of the way or block it right at the end piece, but you must keep every part of your body out of the path it is swung or you will get hit
This is difficult to say the least if you are unused to fighting someone with it, a three section staff has excellent reach like a spear, can execute straight strikes as well and effective at close or long range, so against a skilled fighter, don't even think about 'Closing the distance' as you would with other melee weapons, but as with any weapon the best way to train to fight and defend against it is to train to use it; the best way to get a feel for the range and capabilities of any weapon: sword, flail, dagger or firearm is by knowing how to use it, and being familiar of its capabilities
This remind me of Jet LI in fearless. When he fought the samurai at the end.
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The swordsman isn't the best in this video, but any flail type weapon is very difficult to fight against
We makin it out of Dagon's domain with this one
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It looks like one of the major strengths of this weapon, besides its reach and its ability to store a lot of momentum, is that it has so many "ready positions" that the wielder can use. If an oppenent is not familiar with this weapon, you could change the ready position after every couple of attacks, limiting their ability to adapt and predict what will happen next.
As with the whip chain, a flaw of this weapon is that one is at the mercy of momentum.
on the other hand, nunchaku can't stab you or slice off something
Just add pointy ends to your nunchaku and it will happily stab :)
@@numberonedadit can hit you really damn hard though
@@numberonedadinternal bleeding bruh
Always wondered how a three-section staff worked. I think the sword guy was a little too cautious, but I also wouldn't have any idea how to deal with that long-ranged aggression myself.
I was thinking the same thing. I can't help but think if the swordsman had accepted absorbing the hits with his shield and drove forwards with confidence he would have been more effective.
He just need roman`s shield and helmet and he easy block 99% attack of this triple nunchaku or shorter shield+spear to block and conter attack immediately...
They are probably operating under the assmuption that getting hit with one would be detrimental to your health.
It is easier said than done, when encounter this 3 sections pole, I assume the opponent is quite confused where to strike. The pole can strike either left or right, shot or long range, while the middle section is very good at defending. Any attack can be fend off by simple push. In fact, the guy with this 3 sections pole is not even a skill user, but still, he already inflict quite a lot of damage to the opponent.
Very interesting drill indeed! give us a good view point of what a true fight is about.
I will say, when I have to encounter a guy with 3 sections pole. Fight in a confine space may be the best way or with a long spear.
watch a movie called 36 chambers of shaolin. its about the invention of the tri form staff in china. in japan it was typically to my understanding shorter, and the "flail" should be tetsubo.
We need the triple chuck guy to fight the spear guy.
I want to see that too
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Or a halberd/polearm
i think spear guy wins that one.
@@davidsprott3216 I second that.
As someone who has been on the receiving end of the Triple Nunchaku. I can tell you its not easy to deal with and its hard to block. great video loved every minuet of this because it brought back old memories of my martial arts days. Thank you very much for this video.
I don't think it would be very effective in actual combat. It doesn't have the stomping power of a mace, and it's not a bladed weapon either. If the swordsman can mitigate the power of the blow even a tiny bit, then they can just tank it and go in for the kill. That's if we're talking a duel, but of course in war a three segmented staff like this would be even more useless.
I'm convinced this only works for exhibition play-fighting.
Bullshit at its finest
I've never heard of it refered to as "triple nunchaku"... We always called it the "three sectional staff", or "Sansetsukon" (or ORIGINALLY it was known as "Sanjiegun"). But my old training partners and I preferred the former. But I'm sure you already knew that, and just simplified it for all the people who aren't really knowledgeable of traditional martial arts weapons. Either way,, that was a great demonstration!👍 It's truly a FORMIDABLE WEAPON to be proficient in!! But it's hard as hell to learn compared to nunchaku, escrima sticks, or the commonly known "Bo staff". I tried picking it up a little over 20 years ago (to add to my "weapons proficiencies list" lol...) But I didn't stick with it, after almost knocking my OWN A$$ out a few dozen times!! 😂 Now I've gotta go watch the rest of your videos, since I'm now in my 40's and need the motivation to try and get back into shape (like my mental new years resolutions said I would)!!👊😆
Triple chaku
@@shk5253 That's cool... I like (almost) any term that simplifies things with less syllables. 😂👍
@@sarlaccstapeworm990 nun means double
@@shk5253 Right... I was thinking about comparing "triple chaku" to "three sectional staff", or "sansetsukon" or something... "Triple chaku" is kinda easy to say (in comparison).
@@sarlaccstapeworm990 FWIW, I like "tri-chaku".
0:04 Iron elbow stance
0:09 Leaves around the tree.
0:20 coiling snake.
2:03 fisherman’s paddle
Are you a 3 section staff practitioner, and if so, what discipline are these moves from?
The problem with comparing a blunt and an edged weapon is their damage thresholds.
If a blunt weapon hits you anywhere except the head, it has to be a solid enough hit to break a bone in order to do more than annoy you. A bunch of glancing hits and you're no worse off than taking a few punches.
An edged weapon, on the other hand, starts a countdown timer on your life with every hit you take. Even just a couple shallow cuts can cause significant blood loss when you can't stop to bandage them.
exactly. I hope people realise that the only reason these things were used as weapons was because the laws forbade the populace from owning spears and swords.
@@kingprince3975 and the lack of armor. It's a great weapon against unarmored opponents.
having said that edged weapons need almost perfect edge alignment in order to cut (especially thin blades), which is not the case for blunt weapons because they're not edged weapons lol.
honestly, all I was thinking while watching this is "Looks hard to block, I'm gonna take one hit of that on purpose and bullrush inside their reach" this feels like they really let the person freely display what the 3 staff can di rather than actually try and stop them
@@SlickRieck My thoughts. Get close. Take the pain and deliver a run through.
As one who has fought a fair bit against some wild weapons like the 3 section staff, I will say the shield user is very cautious and afraid of getting hit. It may have been the room you were sparring in that you couldn't show its full range, but there were many times I noticed you trying to bait the shield out, and had he actually taken it, you would have lost more than you did.
also it is basically a heavy quarter staff vs. a buckler/medium size shield; just hammer it and you will fck up the hand and arm underneath in like 3-4 hits, which if he is so defensive is only a couple of seconds...
if he is this afraid all you need to do is just hammer him until he breaks (and he will pretty fast, like 1-2 hit connecting from distance to a limb and its basically over, else within 8-10 hits you've done so much blunt impact dmg the fight is also over.^^
@@Erebus2075 salty i see
I don't think you know how shields work@@Erebus2075
@@liamvandoorn5938nah man I mean, I remember being told the last movement you’d wanna do in a fight is lean back and away like that- you either step to the side or close the distance, you rarely wanna give up ground. And moving in reduces the staff’s usefulness a fair bit, a big part of the advantage is the space it can create along with the amount of range it’s got. Just gotta get whacked real good once to get a stab lol- 1:16 is a good example
@@Minecraft5690not the same story if u add a cama or spike at the end of the staff. It's not like only the sword and shield person can move. The staff man can just reset. Honestly capturing it to disarm would probably work best. The range on that weapon is real, and this was obviously point sparring. of course the sword is more lethal than a stick, but this wasn't a gladiator match.
This is brilliant.
My favourite sessions with weapons have always been always mixed sparring. I love the safety version of the three staff, and I hope I get to fight someone with one, one day. Your video was very instructive.
Some thoughts:
It may make more sense for the win condition for the 3-staff user to be something like a blow to the head or two blows elsewhere, and the win condition for the swordsman to be a single blow anywhere. I imagine this would lead to less visually interesting bouts, as it would encourage the swordsman generally to rush forwards, however, I think it might lead to more enjoyable and instructive fights, as it means that the 3 staff users can't rely on unrealistic 1-hit kills from body shots, and would have to work harder to defend himself against the bladed weapon.
Getting hit in the leg with the nunchucks would disable you. Making you effectively dead.
Yes that's what I was thinking as well. The sword user could just rush in and attack. As the nunchucks are not as deadly as a slash/stab
To bring so context the San Jie gun or three section staff was an urban weapon. Meant to be used in towns and cities you can tell because it is basically a concealable long staff. It was meant to deal with other concealable weapons like short swords, knives, sticks although in training it is confronted to all types of weapons.
I have never seen it against shield and sword and yes many comments are correct the sword guy just has to rush in protecting the head and deal a stab or cut.
In training.. sure the guy 'should' rush. I'm going to play devil's advocate here and explain. So the three section staff outside of training would be made of more dangerous material. The guy training against the staff may grow used to just protecting his head and rushing forward- ignoring the blows to his legs and body. Now when that same fighter tries this out of training he will have his sternum, ribs, and legs broken because he did not respect the danger of the sectioned staff posed.
@@charlotteatewilbur8838 it is like a whip, it can't really brake you that easily and you will die with the first hit of the sword
@@lelouchlamperouge5910 It's really not like a whip, I know theres alot of people claiming you can't break bones with nunchuk which you most certainly can, a sectioned staff would have even more power than that. What's worse you don't think a whip can break bones lool. Whips that were meant to kill had weights on the end of them... Which in skilled hands could break the sound barrier, and your face and skull or whatever else it happened to hit. Whips with weights were essentially a bullet on a string- saying they can't break bones is foolish.
Watch Fearless, final fight vs Japanese sword master
The problem is that people who train to learn how to use reach will immediately know to backpedal as soon as you start charging. It’s really not so simple .
That 3 section staff looks mega brutal, and just like a flail it can strike over a shield and can strike behind the point of impact. It makes it difficult to block. But if the swordsman just accepted taking the hit on the shield and pushed forwards I bet he could have landed more hits. The 3 section staff is cool, but it can only be swung, so getting inside that arc will make it much less effective.
I would love to see this pairing in a few weeks after they have fought a few more times, and I would really love to see a spear against this 3 section staff.
Yeah but when you get close it becomes like two escrima sticks? albeit with a bar in the middle...
@@kcwliew technically yes but in the video he doesn't seem to do that. And if you think about how you swing a stick, if you want power it's not just a case of rotation, you move the stick in an ark using your whole upper body, like a baseball bat almost.
I'm only speculating here but I would imagine having that bar in the middle makes it difficult to get any real power when swinging the end sticks on their own.
However, one thing I didn't consider in my original comment was that you could 'fold' one of the end sticks over the middle one and just use it as a 2 section staff.
This would be a bit cumbersome but would enable you to shorten your swing radius for closer ranges, but still give you respectable power on the swing.
I would love to have a play with something like this as regardless of the criticisms it looks fun to use and I bet if you tested it on a dummy, a full swing from this would be strong enough to practically remove the face from the skull.
It was tried several times in this video. The staff-user can step back just as the swordsman steps in. It's a really uphill fight for a sword to have to cover that much ground just to get into attack range. A blunt weapon would honestly have more ease.
if the swordsman steps into the arc would it not whit around and hit him in the back?
@@kinn11 therein lies the problem yeah. But I wonder how much force it has in that scenario.
But it's the same issue as always with modern fights like this. They play to the first touch, whereas in reality all touches aren't equal, especially with a blunted weapon.
Sometimes combat, like chess requires you to sacrifice a lesser hit so you can inflict a greater one.
This argument has been made many times in other videos for sure and never resolved.
At last, someone who knows how to use the weapon. When it comes to effectivity between the two weapons, it's always up to the user's training and skills whichever wins or loses.
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It looks like a very "committing" weapon. Once you swing you can't really change course or adjust it too much. So the counter lies not in parrying or blocking, but avoiding it and punishing misses. Even if there's a continuation strike, there should be a gap to rush, since the change in range would be a bitch to deal with.
Depending on the system you train it can be used many ways the end of the staff can be used to block and attack or you can swing it around your body to block and attack or close one end of stick and use it like a nun chuck or close all 3 and hit with it
Wouldn't be a great weapon to fight 2 people with
@@RENO_K Few weapons are.
Or you could even tank a hit to the body and go for the kill
@@RENO_K if you're outnumbered in a fight, you've already fucked up. Real life isn't a video game or anime.
If you're fighting 3 people in a fight, you're a dead man
I’ve always wondered how the 3-sectional staff was employed. I’ve never seen it in action before. Impressive.
watch "Master Killer: 36th Chamber of Shaolin" and "The Avenging Eagle" It's Shaw brothers choreography but the basics are there.
I personally wouldn't call that impressive or practical. Not trying to be "that guy" at all, but his movements were WAY too slow and he was missing catching it. A few aggressive, fast lunges would ruin him as an air breather.
You still havent
He could have done more. But lack of space didnt allow it
My sensi taught me this weapon after I trained with more than 20. It is my fav technique and weapon of choice. It's blends escrima nunchauk and staff movements and mostly, is unstoppable. I make my own and train students when they are ready with them. A gun if close, can be easily removed from a fight. You have close to 12-17 feet of reach dependent on your height. I love this weapon of self defense😊😊😊😊
I gained much respect to this weapon! Great demonstration!
The range on that is incredible
It's a shorter than a polearm but has several big advantages: 1). It's unpredictable to people unaccustomed to facing it. With polearm, you know how it'll move and what will happen if you block it a certain way; with this thing, most people probably don't. 2). It can wrap around a weapon or a shield, so distance, not parrying, is the best defense. 3). If an opponent closes the distance, the weapon can be used almost like two batons to block and strike back, as opposed to a polearm that has limited close-range mobility.
@@OceanHedgehog They can be parried, although they way that you parry flail-type weapons differs significantly compared to most weapons. Rather than blocking as far out as possible as against most weapons, the chain/rope and weight will wrap around with a flail from the sudden stop. Rather, you want to block either very far down (angling it such that the haft extends too far away to wrap around and hit your, or hit you hard enough), or at the base of the tethered weight (to break the stability and inertia and to make it unable to reach you by the angle).
Or, such applies to single-articulated flails. This thing probably differs a bit, although I am sure a more complicated version of the same principles apply.
That said, yeah, these things are nigh-impossible to defend against if you do not understand _how_ to, and as they were always relatively uncommon, that understanding was fairly rare.
This simply showed that the fighter with the 3-sectional staff (NOT triple nunchaku) was more proficient (at times) with his weapon than the sword fighter was with his. And that's what it usually boils down to - the person more proficient with his particular method wins.
not when it comes to things like spear vs sword.
From what I can see, one of the main challenges using the three-section staff is being able to quickly change which section(s) to grip. It looks difficult to master!
Much more effective than I’ve ever seen employed! Well done! 👍
One of the reasons I started learning kung fu was to someday learn the three section staff. Awesome video.
Sparred vs these myself. They're extremely easy to overpower. You just can't be timid like the swordsman.
It's no more difficult to fight than a polearm. You're at a reach disadvantage, but unlike a polearm, they can't hold it out for their own distance control.
The wrapping around your block is 100% a problem, but with practice, a 3 part staff is easier to block than a chain weapon of similar length, and unlike a true polearm, it won't blow through your block.
i mean, dude’s timid for a reason. i don’t think anybody likes spinning hardwood coming at them at high speeds.
Only works if your opponent is at a distance, not to mention they are sparring. In a real situation a professional would take a glancing blow to get in close and it would be over.
The swordsman was annoyingly passive.
@@swordinhand8356 or they would get knocked unconscious
@@satinlovegloveful You can firm a blow of these and take a breather once you've stabbed through your opponent.
I really like the versatility of the 3-section-staff because you can switch to melee and distanced weapon any time which ruins the technique of your opponent.he will be disrupted every time you switch stance. Also, almost any opponent wouldn't know of how fatal the switch from mid to long distance of the staff within a swing.this was demonstrated while the opponent's shield was up and the staff user hits the shield with the mid section thus propelling the outwards section to hit the head with a force which can break skull
During the Bruce Lee craze in the 70's, I made many versions of the nunchuk as well as this 3 section staff.....the girls never beat me up again!
This is so awesome,, I love how we get to see someone who is actually trained to use the equipment.. as far as I know,, the folks using claws, spears,, and soft weapons have all been "guest" fighters, so to speak. Like viewers know a key set of players that are often around, and then we get to see archers and people with diverse experience plying their skills. This is in one of my top 10 favorite CZcams channels.. thanks so much for making them..
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Also, I've seen a video of what appears to be American folks in a formal martial arts setting wielding this weapon and ONLY holding one far end and swinging it as a whip. I was beyond diappointed.
He really made all the spinny moves actually work. Pretty cool stuff.
I just love the clacking sounds. Beautiful.
Nice work. Grate use of the section staff I have trained with a wooden set several times and I agree with you . It is a powerful extension of the bodie not easy to use but with practice and safety it is fun and very effective. Grate form .
The person wielding the staff was actually demonstrating some good technique and used the weapon well. The person wielding the sword, however, did not have the same level of skill with his own weapon. I does appear also a great many of the "strikes" made by the staff as they wrapped around the sword/shield would have done nothing in the way of damage. The direct strikes, however, are another matter.
True. A determined attacker could still get a much more lethal after-blow in.
The 3-section staff would be made of metal in a real fight.
@@Uouttooo There was a Discovery Channel show YEARS back that test the damage output on weapons and one of them was a Nunchaku. The readings IIRC from the Nunchaku was that it was far less than what most people thought. Sure I bet it would definitely hurt against an unarmored opponent...but on a battlefield where most opponents in the past wore armor and at least a helmet...I dont think that is the kind of weapon you want to bring with you. Its not going to be enough to stop a determined armored swordsman to rush in and stab you.
@@coderonix4501 I don't believe the 3-section staff or the nunchaku were used in wars. They were urban weapons. So talking about war armor was kind of a moot point.
It's easy to say what should be done when you're not getting a segmented staff swung in your face. So I will! My guess is...First thing, standing back and blocking all day while not in range to strike is guaranteed defeat. Second thing, an observation, the three-section staff has no quick attacks. It requires momentum and a clear starting position/angle for everything. Even that rapid twirling move can't change directions. He can't fake you out and suddenly strike up or sideways. So you either have to get in fast, before he has time to get the weapon moving, or charge in behind a shield and not give him time to change his attack direction. You're still at a range disadvantage, but maybe spear and shield could help with that. Really fun fight to watch!
This is one of the answer to your attack suggestion 0:51 and it can be done in multiple directions, the staff doesn't need momentum if you know how to use it with footsies, it's just slower than nunchuck but hits harder and does not ricochet back at you badly unlike the unreliable nunchucks.
Also the rapid twirling can change direction upon hit, it's an attacking feint to zero in on reactions. All twirling attacks with weapons are meant to make the ignorant think "all show and can't work" so you can make them sucker no.1... Assuming you know the dirty tricks of what weapon twirling is for that is.
Thanks a lot for sharing. Very interesting weapon!!!
I love the fact that this is making Shad's head explode.
Ooh
That's a dope dueling weapon. I wouldn't want to take it to war, but that 3 piece staff is a beast.
Exactly. It would be a different story if that sword was sharp. With dummy swords the nunchucks are scarier but IRL I think he would be a lot more cautious and lose the advantage.
@@timothyboland2629 the main issue I have with the staff is the adrenaline.
If the dude with the sword is pumping adrenaline, how many of those strikes would it take? That thing unleashed a lot of strikes, and there would be more under his adrenaline. That sword was made for stabbing, and all it would take is one stab.
This is one of the best fights they've put out.
@PJ Rivera you're right.
The staff needs to be made of something that can break bone, which would remove speed.
If it was steel, it could break an ankle, but the whole staff would be too heavy to fight with. A hit to the wrist, with a steel one, could break the wrist.
A real fight between these 2 weapons would be like that trans woman fighting the cage fighter.
I would choose a flail instead of a nunchuck in real life
Mmmm... Looks the part maybe, doesn't act it. I'd call it an entertainer's weapon, nothing more.
I always thought the three sectional staff was really cool MA weapon. Now I think it might be one of my favorites.
And you can tell those hits hurt, lol. I love the video but im glad.I wasnt the one catching the shots 😂
Maybe... but none of them would kill you. The sword on the other hand... far more lethal. I'd prefer spear or heck, even a knife. I can take a good whack, I just need to get up close and end the fight.
That was fantastic to see at speed. Thank you!
Gordon Liu demonstrates the 3 Section Nunchucks in 36 Chambers of Shaolin. It's very effective. Even when blocked it finds a potential opening. Loved this video and the Demonstration.
Absolutley hard to deal with
Absolutely a challenge to use
Its interesting how nunchaku benefits from being the aggressor :) Normally a fighter who is patient, defensive but also good at fast counterattack, wins.. But not here haha.
Ooh, and by "normally" I mean unarmed combat like Taekwondo/Karate ect.
Most weapon based systems from around the world reward aggression. Simply because you absolutely cannot get hit, so whoever takes the initiative is by default in control of the fight. The Germans call this "seizing the vor", and venetian rapier master nicoletto giganti refers to it with his concept of obeyance, or the idea of forcing your opponent to commit to certain defensive actions that you can exploit.
@@swordpvnk Yeah I realized that I don't know enough about armed combat, that's why I commented below, that I was talking about unarmed combat, where you are open to an attack the moment you start an offensive yourself :)
@@sorendk1 There are defensive styles in armed combat too and if the deffender is skilled enough he can provoke some action from his opponent to let him reveal his intent and break it by better timing, but when the attack is strong and technically good and it is sophisticated technique - covering attack like "master cuts" then you can still lose if you are defending, unless you are superior at judging distance.
@@swordpvnk the Japanese have
"Go no sen"
"Sen no sen"
"Sen sen no sen"
I think i can hit him so im going to. Im going to force a parry then hit him. And im going to make him think he can hit me so i can hit him.
Amazing!!! Never seen a triple nunchaku being used in combat before. What a terrifyingly versatile weapon ⚔️
I would love to see it's full potential in an outside setting. I've dabbled in 3 section (although my main weapon is rope dart) and yes they can be hard to control,but this was a great example of what it's potential can be.
I once held that 3 section staff...its made out of steel..and freaking heavy!! Deadly weapon
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Try actually using it though.
Bottom line, it will hurt, it's unlikely to incapacitate you with a single hit especially since it'll likely be a body strike. Rush in, take the hit, kill the opponent.
What do you think happens when you 'rush in' to someone who knows that they need to leverage their range? Do you think they'll just stand there?
@@frankwashburn6680 how would they avoid being charged at and stabbed tho? Idk anything about this type of stuff but I can't really think of any scenario where he'd get a hit deadly enough to incapacitate the sword fella before getting stabbed
Great Exhibition! A fearsome reached weapon that can be adjusted for close combat. And yes, kinetic impact can be as deadly as any slash. Get enough velocity on a piece of hardwood or metal and it will crack/break bones, including the skull. And as @흥감독TV stated, spears were hands down the workhorse of wars, due to a variety of reasons. Cheap to produce compared to many shorter arms such as swords, and require less training to organize in a fighting formation, many of which are highly defensive, and deadly on the scale of an amassed battlefield.
You see why they invented the gun . Combat with Melee weapons is savage.
Thing is those strikes wouldnt be lethal in most cases especially against an armored oponent. That being said you my friend are a badass with it.
the lethality of the blows is irrelevant in a fight, only stopping power matters. and those cracks over the head would stop someone for sure, even in armor, as blunt trauma to the helmet was the most common way of dealing with heavy armor. to be honest, if you tell me i have to fight a guy in full plate id rather go for a staff than a sword (not a sectioned staff, though, to high a skill gap)
@@ignis6591 It's a possibility. But I'd still think that the armored knight would have better chances.
He'd only need to kill the momentum and he gets advantage.
@@leokim1458 I don't disagree but that's not relevant to OP's critique of the weapon
If that 3 section staff was steel, those headshot would be lethal. leg shot would break knees.
@@pyramid_scheme_termination3655 not necessarily against an an opponent with a helmet, which was OP's point. but as I said, that is irrelevant because even the normal wood variation would cause trauma to the head from a helmet impact, probably a severe concussion. additionally, if the staff was made out of steel it would weigh significantly more than is acceptable for wieldiness.
Has he never used a sword? He lacks all sort of aggressivity or tactic. When the other guy is rotating the other weapon he's got more than time enough to charge, hit him with the shield in the face and then slice it to death.
You are forgetting the 3-section staff is also desinged to function at close range.
@@ehisey And you are ignoring everything I've written. I stand by my comment word by word. The guy with a sword is scared and he's not a good opponent. He is clumsy and incompetent.
He maybe scared, but you seem unaware that you planned tactic is not nearly as effective as you indicated. While better than staying out of sword range and just getting hit, the slow lazy arcs are a trap. Trying to charge in was done in the clip early and resulted in getting hit.
@@ehisey Thing is, with a weapon like this getting hit isn't a death sentence usually, and getting in quickly also mitigates the hit. If you're at the range where they'll strike using the full reach of the weapon, quickly darting in and taking the hit further down the weapon means much less damage. And because they committed to a full reach strike, you're going to be able to land a quick but likely fatal blow before they can really do anything. The weapon may be good in both close range and further away, but you can't instantly transition from a finishing/just finished full reach strike to a proper close range attack that's going to successfully stop the stabby man in time.
It's a similar principle to defending against a roundhouse kick in unarmed combat, you rush in and grab/block the leg close to the body because the force is much weaker there and then counter while they're still committed.
Obviously the parallels aren't exact. And the counterplay to that is to not overextend, which makes it harder to get a good opportunity to push in, but there's two problems there. One, that pulls back a lot on your reach advantage, since you aren't using the full force of that reach due to its exploitability. Two, this guy doesn't do that. There are multiple times where he makes a big long swing that is telegraphed enough to easily make that rush in, even early in the clip. The other guy just doesn't capitalize at all.
@@jonathanrussell8998 You dont seem to realize that getting in close is not getting hit by a lesser part of the weapon. it is designed to be hit with just the near section at full power. From actual first hand experience fighting with and against this weapon, you can very quickly swap from long to short, as the typical long strike is only the middle (which is held) and the end section. This makes extremely fast to swap to the near end for defense. When used to strike at the full 3 length distance it is 9 feet, which is very hard to close faster than the wielder can recover.
Thanks for showing us how this weapon can be used properly. I didn't really know what it would look like, or if it really would be effective.
Excellent sparring and you still managed to use it competently despite the low ceiling! Keep up the great work 👍
I have never trained with this weapon. Looks like it is difficult to learn. Also looks like it is VERY effective if you do manage to master it. The strikes are so fast it is very hard to defend. Strikes come from all kinds of strange angles. It has a ton of reach. Seems to not do well up close, so seems the best defense would be an aggressive up close approach.
up close you use it like escrima sticks. That middle section does not conflict but acts like a mini shield
Yes. In reality i think Thats why a variation of that thing Was a farming implement and not a weapon. It was rather what farmers used to whack their harwested produce to separate it from the hausks etc. So they had it in hand and could use it for self defence.
@@kanik096 exactly, much better than having nothing!
Very high skill cap. I feel like the video doesn’t even explore the potential for a more ambidextrous approach. They’re always leading with right hand to strike. I imagine a more skilled practitioner could be spinning around more and able to strike with counter clockwise left handed attacks as well.
Effective against who? Compared to what?
Just saying, swords are much more versatile because they have solid form and a bladed edge. Hell, you can get more versatility and force out of a staff of the same material.
I'm not denying the pain the weapon can inflict or the skill of the user, I just doubt it would be nearly as effective as most other weapons.
Woah, didn't know a triple nunchaku existed. Very cool
Its called a 3 section staff
O nome é San Tie Kwan!
The name is San Tie Kwan!
ஆக்கப்பூர்வமான ஒப்பீடு.
மிக அருமை.
நன்றி!
watching him use the 3 section staff sparked interest in me to learn how to use it; I've seen this weapon for years but only until this video did I ever consider trying to learn; THANK YOU WEAPONISM!
One thing most people who haven't practiced with weapons is that, in general, when it comes to actually engaging your opponent, the longer the reach of a weapon, the more defensive its use is. The farther away you can keep an opponent, the further away you are from harm. This also means that the longer the weapon, the less likely your opponent is to be similarly armed. This duel demonstrates this concept wonderfully.
Yes, this means that under the circumstances of engaging an opponent, a sniper rifle is technically a highly defensive weapon.
Being fair, i dont often hear about snipers being killed by anything other than other snipers or artillery fire. They just run from everyone else lol
0:52 as someone who trained fencing/sword fighting... that was fking beautiful!
I love this channel!
Man this was awesome!
*maki zenin and toji fushiguro have entered the chat* jokes aside there's a show/anime called jujutsu kaisen that makes the triple nunchucks look insane to say the least.
Geto used it the best though without breaking it
Very cool demonstration of the mastery on the 'triple nunchaku', unfortunately the adversary doesnt seem confortable with his weapons so the discrepency in mastery level is a bias the comparison. The equipement too (the shield is way too small and doesn't fit in this context). It ain't easy facing a blunt weapon, but as said below the idea with you have edged versus blunt is to go into you distance protecting your head, accepting a couple blunt blows in exchange for good ol' slashy stabby :p But still, pretty neat demo :)
"unfortunately the adversary doesnt seem confortable with his weapons so the discrepency in mastery level is a bias the comparison" - this was my exact thought. The fact that he leads with the shield and tucks his head like he's afraid to get hit instead of moving his shield and sword at the same time tell me he doesn't do a lot of shield/sword training.
The staff is a neat weapon, but I'd like to see it up against a much more competent opponent wielding more conventional weapons.
You also gotta keep in mind they're not in a real fight and how much energy you'd have to put in wielding one weapon or the other.
The three-section staff requires a lot more energy to be wield than a sword. Specially if you're trying to actually hurt your opponent.
I admire a swordsman! In spite of all the hits he keeps fighting 💪
Awesome demonstration
Never was convinced on the effectiveness of three section nunchucks and I'm still not .
Very interesting to watch as they made this a competitive sport.
I'd love a try 👍
I doubt it would be an effective weapon in self defense, or in battlefield situations, flails are everything this thing wants to be. In a competition though, smart.
Sansetsukon is one of the hardest weapon to use. I remember first seeing it in Jet Li's movie "Fearless" and instantly amazed by it
its 3 section staff, sansetusukon is korean pronunciation of chinese word
I think the best way to fight this type of 3 section staff is, to REDUCE THE DISTANCE between the enemy and the person. The more you go back, the more this weapon is effective. So the advice is,-
1. WAIT FOR HIM TO STRIKE IN LONG RANGE.
2. BLOCK STRIKE AND SWEEP AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN.
3. DONT SLASH, STAB.
Tri-chucks have always been fascinating.
Used to train with one of these years ago. Fun, powerful but difficult to master. Never seen anyone use one to grapple before. Risky move but still cool to see.
Just wondering, is this person using a safe training version of the 3 part weapon or does it just look like it isn't deadly at all? Or are they meant to have spikes/blades on 1 of the 3 nu chuck parts?
@@airsoftsniper9191 No blades or spikes, but due to the speed and momentum of the furthest end, it could still crush a skull.
@@airsoftsniper9191Yes the staff is made of pvc pipes for safe training. Read the pinned comment for all the information.
It's a 3 section staff, a Cantonese weapon. When the Cantonese is translated in to English I believe it becomes 'the Coiled Dragon'.
A difficult weapon to learn but very rewarding when your a practiced user.
Excellent display that I will be showing to my ' the sword is better' friends!
no, its from northern china, not catonese, cantonese is in south china
I used to love watching Gordon Liu's 3 sectional staff choreography in his classic martial arts movies, back in the day!
Awesome work guys!!!!
Very nice. Every weapon has its strengths and weaknesses. It’s nice to see modern theory put to the test. 3 section staff seems much more efficient then I once thought. But it’s more a non-lethal option.
*Less lethal
@@vincentlee7359 your right a proper bonk on the head and I would be 100% wrong.
I mean, this is "martial arts", with emphasis on the arts. Kendo, Fencing, etc are not about realizing or effective combat.
In a real fight somebody with a knife and armor could just jump at this whimsy staff, get him on the ground, and start stabbing wildly with the knife. This staff thing is only useful if the target wears no armor.
Take a bunch of strings, and then a strong fan, and you have the ultimate weapons when it comes to these kinds of "martial arts". Long range, and no way to avoid all of the strings. No way it'd be lethal, but "a hit is a hit".
@@muuubiee I wonder if armor is really needed.
I train in escrima. In the beginning your really scared to get hit. After years of training you get hit a lot.
Anyway I wonder how hard most shots really are. I'm sure some would stop you but many look very light. Just a thought
@@vincentlee7359 No, Nonlethal. At least compared to a sword or Knife. Killing someone with that is like killing someone with your fist. You can do it, but its not normally the goal.
From what I observed from this video, Jet Li’s “Fearless”, and “The 36th Chamber of Shaolin”, it appears that this weapon has more defensive capabilities than nunchucks. The middle section seems to be a viable part for blocking, when holding the end sections.
I like how in 36 chambers he uses the two end sections as sticks also. Super versatile weapon. When you pull the two ends the chain does get very tight and is solid for blocking glancing blows but it would not be viable for something with more mass. Like all weapons there are weaknesses to it, like the chain is on this one. I have been using the 3 sectional staff for a little over 20 years now. I love it and this person is really skilled with it. I have never attempted to do any sparring outside of the kung fu two man sets tho. Bravo for making this work.
That's impressive! Well done!
Simply amazing.
I think the most reasonable strategy with a rapier sword against blunt weapons should be straight rush to stab as quickly as u can even if that could mean eating a blow of the enemies weapon. If u dont do it, the fight could be friggin endless.
Wow! What a great weapon!
Having practice weaponry for 45 years I absolutely believe the staff can beat out a sword if the one using the staff is competent....especially with the staffs that are available today being made of aircraft grade aluminum. A few companies that come to mind are kombativ and karate mart with the later being around for decades.
In real life, with two people who have the same level of training, the person wielding a staff (stick without a blade) would die every time. Hits by a unsharpened stick (staff) may cause pain but the bladed stick (sword) causes life threatening damage every single time it strikes.
Wow. I own and know how to use a regular two wood nunchaku, and this makes me want the three wood one
very cool, thanks for posting
Now do it against someone good with a sword.
Even though the triple staff hits and has the ability to wrap round weapons or Sheilds, what real damage do they cause compared to a sword?
Not forgetting if opponent were to be armoured would it even be an effective weapon.
The triple staff would be made of metal and not soft wood in a real fight.
@@Uouttooo Even so would it really perform better than a straight weapon ie axe, mace, sword etc.
Most chain like weapons like these were more gimicky than actually effective and damage causing.
@@Uouttooo it's still ineffective weapon.
@@DP-dd6hl Yep.
Bludgeon weapons are miles better than a blade against a heavy/plate armored opponent. Asides from later can-openers, a hammer can seriously daze or cause internal injury on a hit - and that's the most you can hope for to incapacitate or disable such an opponent. After all, the extra metal only adds to the ringing as it hits.
I love the 3 section staff since the first time I saw it in a movie. Gordon Liu's 36th Chambers of Shaolin and Shaolin Challenges Ninja, I need to bring it out again.
Waouh, I thought that nunchaku was bad in combat, you made me love it, very nice demonstration
At 1:46 the sabreur gets the idea and steps in.
Just gonna be blunt here... against stick just charge while protecting your head and cut or pierce vital and there you go , you might have some bruise or broken bone but it less worst than a cut from a blade (but in sport and sparring or unarmored opponent i can alway see the usefullness of a good blow to the head)
Both practitioners were really good! very skilled on both sides even though the video is about the triple chuks. amazing video - ty for upload
Amazing to see.
Like I tell my students,”if your opponent ever pulls out a chain weapon, just run. Even if you win it will not go well for you.”
When the 3 section staff wraps around, you can decrease the force if youre stepping toward it, but increase the force while stepping back. Def dont stop moving.
When the guy does continuous swimgs or holds both ends of the staff, just charge in because he cant hit hard, grapple, block, or tie you up efficiently.
If you get touched by the staff, it aint a sword so it doesnt make sense to stop moving and reset.
Finally, dont stay far because that ia his effective range, not yours. Go in and take a hit or 2 if necessary on the shield or your arm, then chop him to pieces.
Careful getting close to this weapon. It is a pretty effective short range and grappling tool also. Long range is 6 to 9 ft, mid range is 3 to 6, and 0 to 3 is the grapple to short distance, so it is a bit of a pikc your poison and figure out which range is the wielders worst.
@@ehisey grappling someone with a dagger or even a sword while trying to maintain your grip on a 2 handed striking weapon sounds like straight suicide. I would be shocked if any of the close range strikes were debilitating. Painful, sure, but not debilitating. The challenge for the swordsman is to get inside without a broken skull, leg, or sword arm from those nasty long range shots. That’s a genuinely daunting prospect, but if they get Inside then it’s over.
@@b_t_s8792 lets start with it assumption it is only a 2 handed weapon, works well one handed. As to grappling it has several chokes and bars. Typically it use chain not rope and can generate enough vice force to crack bone. Against a sword sheild combo ot is a better grappling tool. A knife do to smaller size is superior in a grapple but then is also superior to a sword in a grapple.
That was fun to watch. Great skills.
That’s my favorite weapon, the legend as to how is came to be is magnificent
Who's here after watching jujutsu kaisen 😂✌
Toji
The sword is the superior weapon... i trained with a staff for years and most of thise strikes would be ineffective. The sword is a leathal force weapon. It is a lot easier to utilise a bladed weapon against the staff once youve trained with both. Kudos to both guys for demonstrating skills and good/fair sparring techniques with control 👏
Maybe because it is a blunt weapon? If you compare it to a bladed weapon well it works kinda differently.. but I dont think it makes the blunt weapon 'ineffective'. If you use such method of comparison, sword would be ineffective against guns and bombs.
@@geoffreyjaurissa2438 thats not true sai's are a blunt weapon and I prefer those to a single handed sword. 😉 thats funny, the reason I made the comparison is because that is litterally what is being compared in the video... its not knife versus gun, its two weapons I train with so my point remains valid.
Had one when I was younger. Can attest, it's a formidable weapon
2:19 truly a master!!!
Many of the connecting strikes from the staff would have been worthless in a real fight. Unlike a sword, which can do damage from indirect grazing, a staff or any other blunt weapon requires force. A blow without force only angers the opposition.
There were also some sword strikes that were not counted. It’s fine if you want to count “points” for demonstration purposes, but in reality, the sword fighter would have won in this pairing of people. You can’t use the same measure of lethality with a blunt weapon and an edged/pointed weapon.
Yuta vs geto
It's like watching a flail, bo staff, and whip all at the same time. Trippy
Amazing!