I own a recumbent tadpole trike and the thought of going over 20 mph on it is scary. Many trikes have pretty twitchy steering in my opinion, and could cause some problems in urban riding. I have had an electric bike, and there is a problem with some motors having water from heavy rain getting inside and ruining them. Most companies won't warranty water damage. Having said that, the new Falco motors do have a five year warranty and seem to be very well built. With a trike being so low to the ground.... make sure your warranty covers water damage
randy mccumber Interesting point, I know they've positioned the motor above the body and below/behind the seat to keep it away from the elements. I like the belt drive design of this product. It's pretty custom all the way around and they offer fenders to help with water.
+randy mccumber - which trike do you have? Is it direct or indirect steer? I regularly get my Catrike Expedition over 20mph and can't say as I've ever noticed the steering being twitchy.
Great job man I never has come across to this kind of step up level,thanks for showing and bringing this we need to leave our cars home and go to work on this wonderful opportunity of success.
Glad you enjoyed, still got a lot of really great videos on the way. I shot one just cruising around New York City on electric bikes (through Central Park and near the Freedom Tower) that will be up on my other channel soon: czcams.com/users/AllBikeUpdate
Recumbent trikes are hands-down the most easy, comfortable and safe pedal-powered things out there! Having said that there are a few things to watch out for, especially when giving them superpowers like these Outriders! You absolutely need pedals that fix your shoe. Your feet are forward and close to the ground. Imagine you hit a bump at high speed and one foot loses grip on the pedal and falls down to the floor. It can break your leg! The other thing is break steer and break dive. If brakes are not properly setup one wheel can break harder then the other and the trike actually steers to one side under braking (same thing happened on cars without ABS). Break dive happens if you apply too much brake on front wheels. It's the same effect as on any other bike - you fly head over the handlebars, but here you just tip down with the boom, pedals and your feet. But if all this is properly taken care of you have one of the sweetest rides available!! :)
Great tips Andrej, I can't comment on how the Outrider guys have addressed the braking suggestions but I do know they've got a special system in place to smooth out turns and keep braking consistent. I think it's a good suggestion to use your own clip-in pedals to keep feet safe. Do you ride a recumbent bike?
I do have a recumbent, yes. Opted for it partly for the same reason you started using electric assisted bikes and partly because I wanted something different. No regrets, yet! If I buy another bike it'll be recumbent as well. Only downside - they're not cheap. But on the upside, they're usually so well made you'll be able to pass them on to your grandkids!
Andrej Gobec That's awesome! Which one do you have and do you like it? I've seen a few electrified recumbents but they are more rare: electricbikereview.com/tag/recumbent/ growing up my friend had a BikeE two wheel recumbent and it was a neat experience to try :)
Electric Bike Review I own an Azub Mini. www.azub.eu/CZ/recumbent-bike-azub-mini/ Azub is a manufacturer from Czech Republic. I am from EU, so this is a good choice for me. German manufacturers are much more expensive as are recumbent trikes (like www.icetrikes.co/ which probably produce the best trikes in the world). Yeah, theres a learning curve involved riding these things but if yours gets stolen you know it was by another recumbent rider and there's not that many of those around ;)
Electric Bike Review Wow, beautiful designs... I appreciate the full suspension on the Azub Mini. Sometimes I get a sore neck on recumbents due to the head position (trying to hold it up) but these look nice. Thanks Andrej!
a small diameter sprocket to large dia. sprocket is always considered step down in RPM, not up. but with less RPM you do get more torque, perhaps this is the "step up" you are talking about?
Great point, I think that's exactly what is going on here... it steps down the RPM but provides more torque as a result. You get a sense of power and the ability to climb well even though this is relatively heavy compared with traditional electric bicycles. Thanks again!
Yeah, these guys work so hard and really focus on quality and local sourcing. They buy from local businesses and really honor their products with great support. I bet if you reached out to them directly and expressed interest in the speed version they might build you one or maybe even sell the one they broke the record with. They are very easy to reach and work with, just visit their site: www.outriderusa.com/
Regardless of everyone who's complaining about the price, this was a great review. Now plz convince that guy to throw in the 2nd motor and get the stock bike up to 80mph since it's the price of a motorcycle. Oh and do a review on the Joystick Bike :D
This video got me thinking about recumbent aero bikes. If you put an aero shell on this and upped the power & range, you would probably have a vehicle replacement for a large portion of travel needs.
Absolutely, I saw an experimental velomobile earlier this year that fits your description perfectly, not much room for transporting items and not as many safety features as I'd like for high speed on roads with full sized autos but the prospect of future efficient transport is very exciting. Have you seen the Outrider Horizon: electricridereview.com/outrider/horizon/
I've a recumbent trike, & 20mph is ok if it'll save me winching uphill as a pedal assist. But as a power drive? Geesh! I get 40mph going downhill freewheeling, but would prefer 50mph on some of our local roads - any slower is suicide as cars come up behind me from a blind bend. I don't care for 'law enforced' speed restriction, & I've not seen the law driving around my place (I'm way out in the countryside) for 8 years! I just need to find something electric & fast that I can build into my trike. Oh, & seriously....NEVER, EVER ride a recumbent with standard pedals, coz if your foot slips off at speed, your leg from the knee down will be trashed; get SPDs!
I have come down hills on my Catrike Trail hitting 43-45 mph and that is white knuckle speed. The low center of gravity makes them super stable but it is wise to never ride one without wearing the proper shoes so you can clip in to the pedals. These trikes are way to cool.
Nice, great advice for sure... The Outriders feel very balanced but their higher speed can feel intimidating at times. I definitely wear a helmet and your tip about shoes is spot on ;)
I am getting an Outrider 422 Alpha built tight now. It is in the 14K price range. The price is quite daunting but I am betting the thrill for the Bucks will be worth it. I do have two other electric trikes. My big concern is changing the rear tire. There is a lot of stuff that has to be taken apart and put back together. My other big concern is maintence support. I am working with Matt and his shop is on the east coast and I live on the west coast. The shipping cost of the bike one way is 650 dollars or more. Having a 14,000 dollar bike break down and shipping it back and forth at 1,300 dollars is quite pricey. My biggest concern is theft. Other than that, I am looking for a great adventure with this bike. Matt and his team have been very accommodating with me. But still the price and maintenance support and theft protection will be my biggest challenges. Over the past years I have loaded my bikes similar to this one on the back of my truck fairly easily. You just spin the bike backwards and lift the rear wheel up on your tailgate. The lock the front brakes on the hand grips with the little buttons. Then you just grab the two wheels and push the bike into your truck bed. I have a truck shell so the bike handle bars have to be low enough to clear the top of the shell. I also had to get the seat designed lower to clear the shell. The Outrider appears to have a long boom up front and I hope I have room on the back of my truck to close the rear shell door and lift the tail gate. The last thing I want to see is my 14K bike falling out the back of my truck and crashing into cars on the freeway through my rear view mirror. If anybody has purchased this bike in the state of California, I would like to talk to you so I can find out your maintence shop connections or maybe we can do a ride or form a group ride. Ebony Man...Out!
***** Thanks Matt for the info. I appreciate the great service and technical advice you are sending me prior to getting my new bike. Everything I am reading about the Outrider 422 Alpha appears to be amazing. I can not wait to get my bike. Outrider is the ultimate in the bike riding experience. I recommend everybody get one now. Ebony Man...Out!!!
Zed Bowman They feel very stable thanks to the tadpole design. I think they can even drift a bit but given the smaller contact patch they might also be prone to tipping depending on the road surface. Even if you didn't tip, it wouldn't be fun to crash into a car or other fixed object riding one of these...
Electric Bike Review I really like my tadpole Rambler but it does and has gone over without much provocation. The rider does sit high on this on the Rambler which I am sure has a lot to do with it but I bought it as it is easy to mount and dismount. Next year I will be looking to purchase a new trike but only if I find one considerably more stable.
Rohloff is an 14-speed, Shimano has an 11-speedhub. In the Netherlands it had to have a licenceplate, being a motorbike, going over 40mph. You need a helmet, motorcycle aproved. Need tenders up front etc
I have 3 herniated lumbar disks and therefore prefer the recumbent bikes, but the position of this ‘deck’(?) is too low, not supporting the upper back and shoulders as much as I would want - plus, the head forward position required by the low recumbency looks like it would become tiring and painful after a time, like the awkward head position required by staring at digital devices for long periods of time. I’d like to see a review of differently pitched decks and, if there are any, decks with complete upper body and head support, especially for those trying to protect against spinal issues.
WOW! I thought these were going to be woefully under powered and sluggish at 100lbs and then I saw that dude punch it on the modified unit and my jaw dropped! I'm not sure if I would want to go ripping down the tarmac at 85MPH on one of these things though and certainly wouldn't want to put one in the rhubarb at that speed! AMAZING BUILD and it's also great they try to manufacture everything in the US!
Yeah, these things are built for performane! The standard units go more like ~45 but that's still fast when you're basically on a bicycle. the newest model called the Horizon is great because it's so customizable and also includes suspension: electricbikereview.com/outrider/horizon/
mathlover101hotmail Yeah... That's definitely warranted with a system like this. I think of it more like a motorcycle or small car due to the higher speeds. Be safe... that's why the Outrider guys run with full motorcycle helmets.
About mid drives Noise levels: they are usually noisy except for the Bafang BBSO2. This is a great and quiet mid drive however the distribution is not reliable. Most mid-drives (chain-drives) are noisy because of the chain on the sprocket and the internal gears. BaFang has this problem solved using a composite and wide gear internally. This was stated by a U.S. Bafang dealer. ref: eiproject.net/electric-bikes-mid-drive/
I'm impressed; however, motor's too noisy, I don't need that speed and no mention of shocks. And now $12000? And most comments are 4 yrs. ago. What's the trike like now w/ further upgrades? Thanks, good job.
Thanks for the fix there! Sometimes my specs are a little off... a few times the reps or designers have been confused and given me the wrong info and I've found out later which is hard to correct in video.
I've been around a few recumbents . . . . never impressed . . . . I dig yours . . . . high performance is key . . . if you're going to electric . . . know now . . . the only thing wrong with yours . . . it the battery bank . . . you don't need it. . . . otherwise marvelous.
I imagine the rear wheel gets consumed pretty quickly with all that power (a flat would be the only way to get me off 😂). Do you change the wheels yourself or do you have a workshop you bring it to for repair?
I like it & would love one modified for left hand use only to get me out in the country as I'm disabled and cannot ride normal bike as I've a smashed up left shoulder that would not cope with shock through handlebars. Tried 7 yrs now to get funding but cannot get the help. It would help a great deal as I'm disabled after being knocked off mountain bike in the first place. I'm depressed as I miss cycling badly & slowly giving up the will to live
Can we see a review of an e trike that you pedal more than use a throttle? Because of back issues, I am considering a transition from a road ebike to an e trike, but I don't want a damn throttle. I've seen a few reviews and the focus is on the throttle.
I've seen several of you're reviews on ebikes and you never provide a msrp for them. Just curious as to why? I know I can do a Google search and find it, but it's just more convenient for me if you were to state it in your review. By the way I enjoy your reviews and keep up the good work. Ok well I didn't watch the full video so the founder actually said how much it cost. I feel dumb. Sorry.
No worries Alex, you're correct that many of my reviews skip MSRP. This is because I list it (along with all of the detailed specs) back at the full writeup and it's a lot easier to change there over time vs. video where it's kind of stuck. I link each review in the description for the video btw. I also review a lot of prototypes and demos that haven't got a set price yet and I don't want to mislead people so I just pass on it :)
Jason Lee Yeah, definitely a pricier option here... The guys build these by hand and really do an amazing job (mostly local sourcing, excellent support, quality performing bikes). The price tag is pretty steep, here are all of the models I've reviewed from them, the Horizon is more affordable: electricridereview.com/outrider/horizon/
Beautiful design and the concept is wonderful but I would never ride near cars or trucks with that low posture. Just not visible by any stretch, but it would be perfect for bicycle only roads
So it appears that there is no regenerative braking. is that not a thing on electric bicycles? pardon my ignorance, my experience with all things electric is limited to EVs...
Pretty interesting trike, till you get to the price... ouch! My Strong electric upright by comparison: Weight: 90lbs Weight capacity: 300lbs Voltage: 36 volts AmH: 17 Distance using "Smart" peddling: 90miles Cost new: $1,200 Cost used: $300 plus a set of batteries. Features: SPT Carbon Graphite Tri-Spoke wheels Rear internal Hub Motor (inside the cg wheels) Removable battery pack with fold down handle LED head and tail lights key switch controlled and hard wired into the system and option to have only the lights on when not running the motor. LED backlit "Fuel gauge" Front and rear shocks Optional Lithium battery pack and charger. Charge time: 3 hrs for Lithium; 12 hrs for NmH. Top Speed Motor only: 20 mph. And it's near silent when using the electric motor whether while pedaling or on its own at any speed. Unlike the trike in the video. Which howls like a banshee every time you hit the throttle. Pretty sad given the price tag. The idea of going "green" if you will, is not to limit accessibility to the wealthy, but make it affordable for the masses. Only then will there be any positive effect seen or felt. Trikes in general are way overpriced to begin with, but this one, despite how nice it is, takes it into the realm of absurdity.
once "the masses" get fast ebikes, the problems are going to start. Upright bikes allow you to use your legs as shocks is the big advantage. The outrider is worth the money, if you see one in person, things like the front suspension are automotive grade, or better
Chase , what if you're a BRKA whom has problems getting prosthetic to work right due to botched surgery. Have to have a trike or 4 wheel electric motor . Dont have balance for 2 wheels ? Wiil this work for me , ya think?
Now that is a trike....or should I say super trike. Very much I like the low center of gravity. Everything is low...not like my Terra Trike where everything is high which destroys it's stability. This outrider has it all including looks and stability! How is this bike legal? I thought it was against the law for a bike to be powered to go faster than 20 mph? Ha...answer me that bike review guy. (Jokingly asked, but asked!) Nice review. Do you have a video of how to take care of these new batteries. If the weather is between 50 and 90 I leave the batteries on the bike and charge them outside. Outside of that range I bring them inside as soon as i am done riding. Any suggestions? Gotta go, it's almost midnight and at midnight I ......
I agree Frank! this thing is pretty amazing... The founders designed it to be able to command respect from drivers at higher speeds (without them trying to cut you off or get upset) but still be stable, efficient and safe. I really like the new Horizon they made that is adaptable to people who have limited body use. It can be configured with hand cranks or arm rods for people who are quadriplegic, letting them get back out into nature and have some independence :)
SupaHotFire In performance mode this thing can go ~40 miles per hour. They just built a custom 422 that goes 85mph and used it to break the electric bike speed record.
They are so low to the ground that I think cars in busy areas like mine would run you over and claim they didn't see you. I could see this being a fun ride if I didn't live in new jersey.
I can't see the point of having 4200 Watts if the speed is restricted to 40mph. For this speed half of the power would probably be enought. Additionally the motor is way to loud, if they would use a regular hub motor, regardless if in the wheel or in the belt drive configuration it would be much quieter.
I have no idea, you might be able to reach out directly. I believe the motor and controller are commonly used on high performance remote controls and their belt system steps up the high speed for torque in this ebike application.
It seems that the interviewer knows little about motors. He references it as, ". . . this is the motor." It would be interesting to know who manufactures the motor and the particular model used.
Sometimes that is disclosed and other times the company likes to keep it private. Here are some more details about the motor used on the Outrider 422 Alpha, they kept the brand private: 4,200 watt direct drive three phase brushless permanent magnet DC mid drive motor (8,000 RPM) connected to a Gates belt drive system, motor is 93% efficient and American made, uses a step-down belt gearing.
Electric Bike Review Thank you for your response. Then in the interview, I would suggest rather than, ".. . this is the motor." at least state that the motor is made in the USA, add the specs and price range. Thank you for the product review. :)
I live in Japan, but there are many general things that a bicycle is quite popular but Japan is common, and such thing thought that Japan which is not readily marketed is a developed country quite, but a budget does not follow what say that it is enthusiastic when after all the place such as your country runs after an ideal if accompanied by a canopy avoiding wind and rain feeling like being rich though an ideal is nearer (^ ^)
I haven't tested the range but they say between 50 to 160 miles (80.5 to 257.5 kilometers) depending on rider, terrain, weather and speed. It depends on how much you pedal, how many hills there are and what the wind is like basically... also your weight and the cargo matters :)
Hey Rossi, you might be able to get this shipped to France but it would cost quite a bit. The company that makes it is called Outrider and their website is www.outriderusa.com/ the guys are very cool and responsive if you email them or call. How do you like France? I've always wanted to visit and surf at Hossegor
Electric Bike Review sorry if the translation and not very good thank you for your reply I'll check the site for more VAView and yes France and beautiful it faudrez come for surfing Hossegor and super pretty and visit paris or else I'm in the region of 500 to frank tale of Swiss allors baucoup side by up since my village and 800 meter above sea level and I'm looking for his bike tricycle for a layer of new experience to the bike (i u dejais a mountain bike and bmx) and more cycling by the time we need to find a c is less taking the car to drive his costs money to make short trip with diesel I want to see if that can give her the electric bike with a bike price of the cost for the maintenance and recharge his face me play sports also as an electric bicycle without support etc. pierre
YOU CAN´T APPLY FORCE ON PEDALS IN THAT POSITION. BICYCLES HAVE BEING STUDIED FOR YEARS AND THE WEIGHT OF YOUR BODY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR PEDALLING.. IT MUST BE IN A VERTICAL ON THEM. AND THAT SEEMS TO BE VERY FAST, PLEASE UPLOAD THE VIDEO IF YOU CRASH ..!!
Well... That comment didn't age well and you edited it. A used 2012 model in 2020 cost ~$5k, a replacement battery cost ~$1k, and they take two batteries. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to be an idiot. Then I realize that idiots are too stupid to realize or, much less, explain what it's like. Something tells me that you have never wondered what it would be like or ever had a need to.
The price in USD is $11,995 and using a conversion rate of 1 to .59 (that's what it is today according to Google) then we get 7,020.16 GBP but you may have to pay more to have it shipped overseas from Durham North Carolina, USA.
BaconKwagga Sure, for all of the ebikes I review the price is listed back at the website at the very top of the page. You can get there by clicking the link in the video description so next time you won't have to watch the entire video if the bike is too expensive :P
Yeah, these things are crazy fast! Did you see the video they did braking the light electric vehicle speed record? Fastest Electric Bike | Fastest sub 100-lb vehicle | Outrider USA
Tomas Wolsink Not sure exactly what kind of motor it is. I believe brushless, definitely very fast... the guys told me this: "motor is 93% efficient and American made, uses a step-down belt gearing system"
Hi Diane, prices vary since Outrider electric bikes are so custom. I didn't mention them in the videos because I wanted to keep them current and provide context so that info is all back at the website. Here's the link to each of their recent models electricbikereview.com/category/outrider/ and you can get more info back at their official site as well (linked at the bottom of each review). I really like the Outrider Horizon if you want suspension or have any special riding needs, it's completely customizable.
this look amazing; however ı would not buy one of those, it comes so scary to me to drive in trafik with other cars ; their bumber on my face :D But if this system put on normal bike it would be awesome. I respect the project.
Well I figured out what this thing is missing. I really don't see the point in being this low to the ground, Perfect for Bubba to run you over with his monster truck. What a horrible eulogy that would be, JoBlow 40 years old died riding his tricycle. Ok what this thing needs is some of kind cool carbon fiber or fiberglass shell. Now if it looked way cool I would be interested in spending the big bucks this thing probably costs but otherwise it is a wacky looking tricycle.
valhala56 Yeah, I think you're onto something there... I've seen a few "velomobiles" with shells that look very cool. That would reduce drag and protect the rider from the elements. This isn't exactly the same thing but I thought it would be worth sharing, it's a slower trike style recumbent with a cover (a large cover with a solar panel on top): electricridereview.com/organic-transit/elf/
ElectricBikeReview.com I love your reviews btw. I already have an electric bike conversion. A hilltopper mounted on a Trek mountain bike. I am going to be buying a fat tire electric soon. Something like the Prodeco Rebel or a Rad Rover which I don't think you have reviewed. Yet. I am pretty set on a fat tire bike but the Prodeco special edition outlaw with 1200 watt motor could sway me. I want some mountain climbing power!
+valhala56 That low to the ground makes a huge difference to wind speed and thus wind resistance. And as for visibility, doesn't matter what you're driving, you can spot a coke can on the road, so why wouldn't you see something ~8'x3'? Personally speaking I get a *lot* more breathing room from passing vehicles when I'm on my recumbent trike than I do when I'm on a regular upright.
Apparently, according to bike helmet instructions, you should never wear a hat underneath one. Also, if you're driving any paths frequently littered with goose crap, you don't want to be touching your front tires!
I feel , we would experience a serious neck pain, in case of long ride. it would be much better if yu ppl add a head rest. other than that I feel, its simply kooool !
+mani raj with that kind of seat angle it's generally very comfortable. Head rests on recumbent trikes are really only used when you're not moving - when you're moving they just transfer vibrations and bumps from the road straight to your head, which really isn't comfortable at all!
You really need to put cleat pedals of some sort on there - the thing with recumbent trikes is that if your feet slip off the pedals as you're riding you get what's referred to in the 'bent community as "leg suck" where your feet hit the ground and stop but the trike doesn't, so the crosspiece of the trike hits the back of your legs and snaps them real easily...
You could build a really great electric recumbent trike system for around $5000 using a BionX kit like the S-350. Here's a review of that kit installed on a Catrike: electricbikereview.com/bionx/s-350/ and you can see their bike website here: www.catrike.com/
Jilla os I understand, there are some shops that will assemble stuff like this for you and just ship it basically ready to ride. The bike in the video was built by BionX (this was shot at their headquarters in Toronto, Canada) but I've seen recumbent trike builds at Long Island Electric Bikes in New York. If this is an approach you're considering I'd suggest reach out to them. The owner's name is Chris and he's a great guy. If you do buy a bike from them mention ElectricBikeReview.com and they may throw in an accessory or something extra ;)
I know right? Imagine him explaining things, informing people, making people smarter. I can see, by the way you type, that you have the attention span of a 2 year old and wouldn't be interested in getting smarter, even though there's obviously a lot of room there.
I own a recumbent tadpole trike and the thought of going over 20 mph on it is scary. Many trikes have pretty twitchy steering in my opinion, and could cause some problems in urban riding.
I have had an electric bike, and there is a problem with some motors having water from heavy rain getting inside and ruining them. Most companies won't warranty water damage. Having said that, the new Falco motors do have a five year warranty and seem to be very well built.
With a trike being so low to the ground.... make sure your warranty covers water damage
randy mccumber Interesting point, I know they've positioned the motor above the body and below/behind the seat to keep it away from the elements. I like the belt drive design of this product. It's pretty custom all the way around and they offer fenders to help with water.
Hey Randy, Fantastic page & vibes my friend
+randy mccumber - which trike do you have? Is it direct or indirect steer? I regularly get my Catrike Expedition over 20mph and can't say as I've ever noticed the steering being twitchy.
a kmx viper with direct steering
Just mount a motorcycle stabilizer bar
Could be some other problem
Great job man I never has come across to this kind of step up level,thanks for showing and bringing this we need to leave our cars home and go to work on this wonderful opportunity of success.
Si il ya en pologne DECKERS trike c'est les meilleurs☺️✌️
I remembered this vlog. Wow how 7 years have gone by fast and alot have changed with this model. Looks much better .👍👍😍😍
This is amazing these guys are amazing!!! Can you imagine they make a rain proof visor around it these guys are brilliant!
I agree, the Outrider guys are awesome and this bike is intense! With a rain canopy it would be like a little bullet car or something :)
Another great interview, thanks for doing this trip and sharing with us.
Glad you enjoyed, still got a lot of really great videos on the way. I shot one just cruising around New York City on electric bikes (through Central Park and near the Freedom Tower) that will be up on my other channel soon: czcams.com/users/AllBikeUpdate
Recumbent trikes are hands-down the most easy, comfortable and safe pedal-powered things out there! Having said that there are a few things to watch out for, especially when giving them superpowers like these Outriders!
You absolutely need pedals that fix your shoe. Your feet are forward and close to the ground. Imagine you hit a bump at high speed and one foot loses grip on the pedal and falls down to the floor. It can break your leg!
The other thing is break steer and break dive. If brakes are not properly setup one wheel can break harder then the other and the trike actually steers to one side under braking (same thing happened on cars without ABS).
Break dive happens if you apply too much brake on front wheels. It's the same effect as on any other bike - you fly head over the handlebars, but here you just tip down with the boom, pedals and your feet.
But if all this is properly taken care of you have one of the sweetest rides available!! :)
Great tips Andrej, I can't comment on how the Outrider guys have addressed the braking suggestions but I do know they've got a special system in place to smooth out turns and keep braking consistent. I think it's a good suggestion to use your own clip-in pedals to keep feet safe. Do you ride a recumbent bike?
I do have a recumbent, yes. Opted for it partly for the same reason you started using electric assisted bikes and partly because I wanted something different. No regrets, yet! If I buy another bike it'll be recumbent as well. Only downside - they're not cheap. But on the upside, they're usually so well made you'll be able to pass them on to your grandkids!
Andrej Gobec That's awesome! Which one do you have and do you like it? I've seen a few electrified recumbents but they are more rare: electricbikereview.com/tag/recumbent/ growing up my friend had a BikeE two wheel recumbent and it was a neat experience to try :)
Electric Bike Review I own an Azub Mini. www.azub.eu/CZ/recumbent-bike-azub-mini/ Azub is a manufacturer from Czech Republic. I am from EU, so this is a good choice for me. German manufacturers are much more expensive as are recumbent trikes (like www.icetrikes.co/ which probably produce the best trikes in the world). Yeah, theres a learning curve involved riding these things but if yours gets stolen you know it was by another recumbent rider and there's not that many of those around ;)
Electric Bike Review Wow, beautiful designs... I appreciate the full suspension on the Azub Mini. Sometimes I get a sore neck on recumbents due to the head position (trying to hold it up) but these look nice. Thanks Andrej!
a small diameter sprocket to large dia. sprocket is always considered step down in RPM, not up. but with less RPM you do get more torque, perhaps this is the
"step up" you are talking about?
Great point, I think that's exactly what is going on here... it steps down the RPM but provides more torque as a result. You get a sense of power and the ability to climb well even though this is relatively heavy compared with traditional electric bicycles. Thanks again!
So good to see a quality made in the USA product. I'd be interested in the custom two motor version if they made it available.
Yeah, these guys work so hard and really focus on quality and local sourcing. They buy from local businesses and really honor their products with great support. I bet if you reached out to them directly and expressed interest in the speed version they might build you one or maybe even sell the one they broke the record with. They are very easy to reach and work with, just visit their site: www.outriderusa.com/
Regardless of everyone who's complaining about the price, this was a great review. Now plz convince that guy to throw in the 2nd motor and get the stock bike up to 80mph since it's the price of a motorcycle. Oh and do a review on the Joystick Bike :D
This video got me thinking about recumbent aero bikes. If you put an aero shell on this and upped the power & range, you would probably have a vehicle replacement for a large portion of travel needs.
Absolutely, I saw an experimental velomobile earlier this year that fits your description perfectly, not much room for transporting items and not as many safety features as I'd like for high speed on roads with full sized autos but the prospect of future efficient transport is very exciting. Have you seen the Outrider Horizon: electricridereview.com/outrider/horizon/
I've a recumbent trike, & 20mph is ok if it'll save me winching uphill as a pedal assist. But as a power drive? Geesh! I get 40mph going downhill freewheeling, but would prefer 50mph on some of our local roads - any slower is suicide as cars come up behind me from a blind bend. I don't care for 'law enforced' speed restriction, & I've not seen the law driving around my place (I'm way out in the countryside) for 8 years! I just need to find something electric & fast that I can build into my trike. Oh, & seriously....NEVER, EVER ride a recumbent with standard pedals, coz if your foot slips off at speed, your leg from the knee down will be trashed; get SPDs!
14:18 and then the vtec kicks in...
Hey Martin I just know you will get a KICK out of this... 85.9mph on a recumbent electric trike. WOW!
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I have come down hills on my Catrike Trail hitting 43-45 mph and that is white knuckle speed. The low center of gravity makes them super stable but it is wise to never ride one without wearing the proper shoes so you can clip in to the pedals. These trikes are way to cool.
Nice, great advice for sure... The Outriders feel very balanced but their higher speed can feel intimidating at times. I definitely wear a helmet and your tip about shoes is spot on ;)
I am getting an Outrider 422 Alpha built tight now. It is in the 14K price range. The price is quite daunting but I am betting the thrill for the Bucks will be worth it. I do have two other electric trikes. My big concern is changing the rear tire. There is a lot of stuff that has to be taken apart and put back together. My other big concern is maintence support. I am working with Matt and his shop is on the east coast and I live on the west coast. The shipping cost of the bike one way is 650 dollars or more. Having a 14,000 dollar bike break down and shipping it back and forth at 1,300 dollars is quite pricey. My biggest concern is theft. Other than that, I am looking for a great adventure with this bike. Matt and his team have been very accommodating with me. But still the price and maintenance support and theft protection will be my biggest challenges. Over the past years I have loaded my bikes similar to this one on the back of my truck fairly easily. You just spin the bike backwards and lift the rear wheel up on your tailgate. The lock the front brakes on the hand grips with the little buttons. Then you just grab the two wheels and push the bike into your truck bed. I have a truck shell so the bike handle bars have to be low enough to clear the top of the shell. I also had to get the seat designed lower to clear the shell. The Outrider appears to have a long boom up front and I hope I have room on the back of my truck to close the rear shell door and lift the tail gate. The last thing I want to see is my 14K bike falling out the back of my truck and crashing into cars on the freeway through my rear view mirror. If anybody has purchased this bike in the state of California, I would like to talk to you so I can find out your maintence shop connections or maybe we can do a ride or form a group ride. Ebony Man...Out!
***** Thanks Matt for the info. I appreciate the great service and technical advice you are sending me prior to getting my new bike. Everything I am reading about the Outrider 422 Alpha appears to be amazing. I can not wait to get my bike. Outrider is the ultimate in the bike riding experience. I recommend everybody get one now. Ebony Man...Out!!!
+Ebony Man so did you get one?
+ThingsDemystified Yes I did and it is a great bike.
Riding starts 12:55
Wow. These should have been around when I was a young man!
Right?! They're pretty intense... Neat to see what some people are doing with the advanced motor and battery tech available now ;)
I just re watched and it is jam packed with new technology. How stable is it around corners?
Zed Bowman They feel very stable thanks to the tadpole design. I think they can even drift a bit but given the smaller contact patch they might also be prone to tipping depending on the road surface. Even if you didn't tip, it wouldn't be fun to crash into a car or other fixed object riding one of these...
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I really like my tadpole Rambler but it does and has gone over without much provocation. The rider does sit high on this on the Rambler which I am sure has a lot to do with it but I bought it as it is easy to mount and dismount. Next year I will be looking to purchase a new trike but only if I find one considerably more stable.
Rohloff is an 14-speed, Shimano has an 11-speedhub. In the Netherlands it had to have a licenceplate, being a motorbike, going over 40mph. You need a helmet, motorcycle aproved. Need tenders up front etc
I have 3 herniated lumbar disks and therefore prefer the recumbent bikes, but the position of this ‘deck’(?) is too low, not supporting the upper back and shoulders as much as I would want - plus, the head forward position required by the low recumbency looks like it would become tiring and painful after a time, like the awkward head position required by staring at digital devices for long periods of time. I’d like to see a review of differently pitched decks and, if there are any, decks with complete upper body and head support, especially for those trying to protect against spinal issues.
WOW! I thought these were going to be woefully under powered and sluggish at 100lbs and then I saw that dude punch it on the modified unit and my jaw dropped! I'm not sure if I would want to go ripping down the tarmac at 85MPH on one of these things though and certainly wouldn't want to put one in the rhubarb at that speed! AMAZING BUILD and it's also great they try to manufacture everything in the US!
Yeah, these things are built for performane! The standard units go more like ~45 but that's still fast when you're basically on a bicycle. the newest model called the Horizon is great because it's so customizable and also includes suspension: electricbikereview.com/outrider/horizon/
I think you would need leathers if you planned to ride 85 mph.
mathlover101hotmail Yeah... That's definitely warranted with a system like this. I think of it more like a motorcycle or small car due to the higher speeds. Be safe... that's why the Outrider guys run with full motorcycle helmets.
Impressive following the history,, now we're in September 2021 is it still 80% made in the USA🇺🇸 or is it more, or is it less?? Thx.✌
About mid drives Noise levels: they are usually noisy except for the Bafang BBSO2. This is a great and quiet mid drive however the distribution is not reliable.
Most mid-drives (chain-drives) are noisy because of the chain on the sprocket and the internal gears. BaFang has this problem solved using a composite and wide gear internally.
This was stated by a U.S. Bafang dealer. ref: eiproject.net/electric-bikes-mid-drive/
Awesome reference there. I agree with you completely about the noise reduction in the BBS02. Thanks Bobcatt22!
I'm impressed; however, motor's too noisy, I don't need that speed and no mention of shocks. And now $12000? And most comments are 4 yrs. ago. What's the trike like now w/ further upgrades? Thanks, good job.
Cool tech... It would be so cool to test drive one.
It's pretty thrilling... The wind and low seating position create a massive sense of speed ;)
With a Rohloff speed hub that would be quite nice. The Rohloff is 14 speeds not eleven, BTW.
Thanks for the fix there! Sometimes my specs are a little off... a few times the reps or designers have been confused and given me the wrong info and I've found out later which is hard to correct in video.
I've had my Vision recumbent up to 55 mph on some long straight flats and that's kinda scary. Cant imagine 80+.
I've been around a few recumbents . . . . never impressed . . . . I dig yours . . . . high performance is key . . . if you're going to electric . . . know now . . . the only thing wrong with yours . . . it the battery bank . . . you don't need it. . . . otherwise marvelous.
I imagine the rear wheel gets consumed pretty quickly with all that power (a flat would be the only way to get me off 😂). Do you change the wheels yourself or do you have a workshop you bring it to for repair?
I was stationed in Camp Lejeune, NC.
I lived in New Bern for a couple of years.
I like it & would love one modified for left hand use only to get me out in the country as I'm disabled and cannot ride normal bike as I've a smashed up left shoulder that would not cope with shock through handlebars. Tried 7 yrs now to get funding but cannot get the help. It would help a great deal as I'm disabled after being knocked off mountain bike in the first place. I'm depressed as I miss cycling badly & slowly giving up the will to live
Can we see a review of an e trike that you pedal more than use a throttle? Because of back issues, I am considering a transition from a road ebike to an e trike, but I don't want a damn throttle. I've seen a few reviews and the focus is on the throttle.
At 10:45 a VW Golf with fender skirts. Add a boat tail and we are good.
I've seen several of you're reviews on ebikes and you never provide a msrp for them. Just curious as to why? I know I can do a Google search and find it, but it's just more convenient for me if you were to state it in your review. By the way I enjoy your reviews and keep up the good work. Ok well I didn't watch the full video so the founder actually said how much it cost. I feel dumb. Sorry.
No worries Alex, you're correct that many of my reviews skip MSRP. This is because I list it (along with all of the detailed specs) back at the full writeup and it's a lot easier to change there over time vs. video where it's kind of stuck. I link each review in the description for the video btw. I also review a lot of prototypes and demos that haven't got a set price yet and I don't want to mislead people so I just pass on it :)
Why not a hub motor? A mid drive that can't use the bike's gears seems like it wouldn't be as efficient.
The first pedaling is at 12:54. Until then, it's all talk.
Did I see that correctly on their website........$11K??? WOW!
Jason Lee Yeah, definitely a pricier option here... The guys build these by hand and really do an amazing job (mostly local sourcing, excellent support, quality performing bikes). The price tag is pretty steep, here are all of the models I've reviewed from them, the Horizon is more affordable: electricridereview.com/outrider/horizon/
And that was 3 yrs. ago, now $12000. I used to be able to buy a fully dressed Harley for that 15 yrs. ago.
very nice, you could put a sail system too don't you? But pretty good :D
Sooo.... what happens when he hits 88 miles per hour with that thing? ;)
This is my dream machine.
Beautiful design and the concept is wonderful but I would never ride near cars or trucks with that low posture. Just not visible by any stretch, but it would be perfect for bicycle only roads
Can i know this outrider use suspension or not???
An 11 speed Rohloff hub? Would be nice to see this specific one.
Would love a alpha 422 but the only thing that puts me off is the fact I'd have too pay import duty on it to get it out of customs coz I'm in England
So it appears that there is no regenerative braking. is that not a thing on electric bicycles? pardon my ignorance, my experience with all things electric is limited to EVs...
I dig your work shed the hat under the helmet to de geek .
Pretty interesting trike, till you get to the price... ouch!
My Strong electric upright by comparison:
Weight: 90lbs
Weight capacity: 300lbs
Voltage: 36 volts
AmH: 17
Distance using "Smart" peddling: 90miles
Cost new: $1,200
Cost used: $300 plus a set of batteries.
Features:
SPT
Carbon Graphite Tri-Spoke wheels
Rear internal Hub Motor (inside the cg wheels)
Removable battery pack with fold down handle
LED head and tail lights key switch controlled and hard wired into the system and option to have only the lights on when not running the motor.
LED backlit "Fuel gauge"
Front and rear shocks
Optional Lithium battery pack and charger.
Charge time: 3 hrs for Lithium; 12 hrs for NmH.
Top Speed Motor only: 20 mph.
And it's near silent when using the electric motor whether while pedaling or on its own at any speed. Unlike the trike in the video. Which howls like a banshee every time you hit the throttle. Pretty sad given the price tag.
The idea of going "green" if you will, is not to limit accessibility to the wealthy, but make it affordable for the masses. Only then will there be any positive effect seen or felt.
Trikes in general are way overpriced to begin with, but this one, despite how nice it is, takes it into the realm of absurdity.
once "the masses" get fast ebikes, the problems are going to start.
Upright bikes allow you to use your legs as shocks is the big advantage.
The outrider is worth the money, if you see one in person, things like the front suspension are automotive grade, or better
Chase , what if you're a BRKA whom has problems getting prosthetic to work right due to botched surgery. Have to have a trike or 4 wheel electric motor . Dont have balance for 2 wheels ? Wiil this work for me , ya think?
Now that is a trike....or should I say super trike. Very much I like the low center of gravity. Everything is low...not like my Terra Trike where everything is high which destroys it's stability. This outrider has it all including looks and stability! How is this bike legal? I thought it was against the law for a bike to be powered to go faster than 20 mph?
Ha...answer me that bike review guy. (Jokingly asked, but asked!)
Nice review.
Do you have a video of how to take care of these new batteries. If the weather is between 50 and 90 I leave the batteries on the bike and charge them outside. Outside of that range I bring them inside as soon as i am done riding. Any suggestions?
Gotta go, it's almost midnight and at midnight I ......
The Rohloff Speedhub is a 14 gear system...
No advantage to clip-less pedals?
That's very cool eBike. So fast!!!
I agree Frank! this thing is pretty amazing... The founders designed it to be able to command respect from drivers at higher speeds (without them trying to cut you off or get upset) but still be stable, efficient and safe. I really like the new Horizon they made that is adaptable to people who have limited body use. It can be configured with hand cranks or arm rods for people who are quadriplegic, letting them get back out into nature and have some independence :)
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SupaHotFire In performance mode this thing can go ~40 miles per hour. They just built a custom 422 that goes 85mph and used it to break the electric bike speed record.
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They are so low to the ground that I think cars in busy areas like mine would run you over and claim they didn't see you. I could see this being a fun ride if I didn't live in new jersey.
Add a Solar Panel/recharging unit and your done !!
Build it into an aero dynamic fairing.
Looks like a great way to fill your pants with bugs.
hahaha...
That can be almost completely eliminated by having a family of crotchbats living up there. They eat all the bugs.
Olá
Este é o melhor que encontrei no youtube. Muito legal. Parabéns!
Are we allowed to drive these on interstate ?
Does this h as bad to be registered as a cycle due to speed
I can't see the point of having 4200 Watts if the speed is restricted to 40mph. For this speed half of the power would probably be enought.
Additionally the motor is way to loud, if they would use a regular hub motor, regardless if in the wheel or in the belt drive configuration it would be much quieter.
What speed controller do they use?
I have no idea, you might be able to reach out directly. I believe the motor and controller are commonly used on high performance remote controls and their belt system steps up the high speed for torque in this ebike application.
12000 for a personal electric vehicle with a range of 160 miles that's not bad.
If it freewheels is there no regen? Sorry I didn't watch every second of the video if you mentioned this.
That is awsome
Oh yeah, the Outrider bikes are totally awesome and the guys who run the company are great too. Very custom and super high quality builds.
It seems that the interviewer knows little about motors. He references it as, ". . . this is the motor." It would be interesting to know who manufactures the motor and the particular model used.
Sometimes that is disclosed and other times the company likes to keep it private. Here are some more details about the motor used on the Outrider 422 Alpha, they kept the brand private: 4,200 watt direct drive three phase brushless permanent magnet DC mid drive motor (8,000 RPM) connected to a Gates belt drive system, motor is 93% efficient and American made, uses a step-down belt gearing.
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Thank you for your response. Then in the interview, I would suggest rather than, ".. . this is the motor." at least state that the motor is made in the USA, add the specs and price range. Thank you for the product review. :)
Bobcatt22 Sure, always appreciate the feedback and I'm trying to get better :)
where can I purchase this same one
Look amazing. Good replacement for a car really!
You need to look up the word "replacement"...
with 11000 dollars, I can buy two used cars. Just saying. I wish I was made of money so I could buy something like this.
It's going to be more than that once everything is said and done
I live in Japan, but there are many general things that a bicycle is quite popular but Japan is common, and such thing thought that Japan which is not readily marketed is a developed country quite, but a budget does not follow what say that it is enthusiastic when after all the place such as your country runs after an ideal if accompanied by a canopy avoiding wind and rain feeling like being rich though an ideal is nearer (^ ^)
i want this
so bad
How far it can go?
I haven't tested the range but they say between 50 to 160 miles (80.5 to 257.5 kilometers) depending on rider, terrain, weather and speed. It depends on how much you pedal, how many hills there are and what the wind is like basically... also your weight and the cargo matters :)
Make a good base for a velomobile
God, are these things even safe? What do crashes look like on these?
I am French and I would like to know where you can buy and it is great bike
Hey Rossi, you might be able to get this shipped to France but it would cost quite a bit. The company that makes it is called Outrider and their website is www.outriderusa.com/ the guys are very cool and responsive if you email them or call. How do you like France? I've always wanted to visit and surf at Hossegor
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thank you for your reply I'll check the site for more VAView and yes France and beautiful it faudrez come for surfing Hossegor and super pretty and visit paris or else I'm in the region of 500 to frank tale of Swiss allors baucoup side by up since my village and 800 meter above sea level and I'm looking for his bike tricycle for a layer of new experience to the bike (i u dejais a mountain bike and bmx)
and more cycling by the time we need to find a c is less taking the car to drive his costs money to make short trip with diesel
I want to see if that can give her the electric bike with a bike price of the cost for the maintenance and recharge his face me play sports also as an electric bicycle without support etc.
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YOU CAN´T APPLY FORCE ON PEDALS IN THAT POSITION. BICYCLES HAVE BEING STUDIED FOR YEARS AND THE WEIGHT OF YOUR BODY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR PEDALLING.. IT MUST BE IN A VERTICAL ON THEM. AND THAT SEEMS TO BE VERY FAST, PLEASE UPLOAD THE VIDEO IF YOU CRASH ..!!
These things need flags like they use on quads at the dunes so that cars can see them.
At the speeds possible with this recumbent I wish he would have asked about the brakes...
I'll be glad when the new wears off and you can get these for $500
Well... That comment didn't age well and you edited it. A used 2012 model in 2020 cost ~$5k, a replacement battery cost ~$1k, and they take two batteries. Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to be an idiot. Then I realize that idiots are too stupid to realize or, much less, explain what it's like. Something tells me that you have never wondered what it would be like or ever had a need to.
What does is cost in pounds?
The price in USD is $11,995 and using a conversion rate of 1 to .59 (that's what it is today according to Google) then we get 7,020.16 GBP but you may have to pay more to have it shipped overseas from Durham North Carolina, USA.
Electric Bike Review you should have started the review with the price so i can go watch something else
BaconKwagga Sure, for all of the ebikes I review the price is listed back at the website at the very top of the page. You can get there by clicking the link in the video description so next time you won't have to watch the entire video if the bike is too expensive :P
15,000dlls....
15,000dlls.....
Just picture that... 15K for an Electric Bike.
Madness
complimenti! fantastica!
99 pounds. My aching back!
Damn that's fast !!!! 0_0
Yeah, these things are crazy fast! Did you see the video they did braking the light electric vehicle speed record? Fastest Electric Bike | Fastest sub 100-lb vehicle | Outrider USA
no i did not the motor is very small for 42oo whatts of power is it a outrunner brushless motor??
very cool video i would love to build one my self something like it not even that fast but close to it
Tomas Wolsink Not sure exactly what kind of motor it is. I believe brushless, definitely very fast... the guys told me this: "motor is 93% efficient and American made, uses a step-down belt gearing system"
not road legal so what's the point?
how much are they
Hi Diane, prices vary since Outrider electric bikes are so custom. I didn't mention them in the videos because I wanted to keep them current and provide context so that info is all back at the website. Here's the link to each of their recent models electricbikereview.com/category/outrider/ and you can get more info back at their official site as well (linked at the bottom of each review). I really like the Outrider Horizon if you want suspension or have any special riding needs, it's completely customizable.
Ian Wilde Sure thing Ian, they are quite awesome :D
I love it
DeathCycle. Does it come with a cremation option?
It's a step-down belt gearing
Thanks for the clarification Kai! I've updated the 422 written review based on this feedback.
this look amazing; however ı would not buy one of those, it comes so scary to me to drive in trafik with other cars ; their bumber on my face :D But if this system put on normal bike it would be awesome. I respect the project.
Well I figured out what this thing is missing. I really don't see the point in being this low to the ground, Perfect for Bubba to run you over with his monster truck. What a horrible eulogy that would be, JoBlow 40 years old died riding his tricycle.
Ok what this thing needs is some of kind cool carbon fiber or fiberglass shell. Now if it looked way cool I would be interested in spending the big bucks this thing probably costs but otherwise it is a wacky looking tricycle.
valhala56 Yeah, I think you're onto something there... I've seen a few "velomobiles" with shells that look very cool. That would reduce drag and protect the rider from the elements. This isn't exactly the same thing but I thought it would be worth sharing, it's a slower trike style recumbent with a cover (a large cover with a solar panel on top): electricridereview.com/organic-transit/elf/
ElectricBikeReview.com I love your reviews btw. I already have an electric bike conversion. A hilltopper mounted on a Trek mountain bike. I am going to be buying a fat tire electric soon. Something like the Prodeco Rebel or a Rad Rover which I don't think you have reviewed. Yet. I am pretty set on a fat tire bike but the Prodeco special edition outlaw with 1200 watt motor could sway me. I want some mountain climbing power!
+valhala56 That low to the ground makes a huge difference to wind speed and thus wind resistance. And as for visibility, doesn't matter what you're driving, you can spot a coke can on the road, so why wouldn't you see something ~8'x3'? Personally speaking I get a *lot* more breathing room from passing vehicles when I'm on my recumbent trike than I do when I'm on a regular upright.
velomobiles are the shit. i want one.
Will it drift? *evil grin*
$12,000.00 !!!!!!! O my God !!!!!! My Hurley didn't cost that much !!!!!!! LOL
Can be made for 1/2 that price....great luck !
Apparently, according to bike helmet instructions, you should never wear a hat underneath one.
Also, if you're driving any paths frequently littered with goose crap, you don't want to be touching your front tires!
I feel , we would experience a serious neck pain, in case of long ride. it would be much better if yu ppl add a head rest. other than that I feel, its simply kooool !
+mani raj with that kind of seat angle it's generally very comfortable. Head rests on recumbent trikes are really only used when you're not moving - when you're moving they just transfer vibrations and bumps from the road straight to your head, which really isn't comfortable at all!
Amazing
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20mph? that thing is choked way down. 4.4Kw is good for 40mph.
You really need to put cleat pedals of some sort on there - the thing with recumbent trikes is that if your feet slip off the pedals as you're riding you get what's referred to in the 'bent community as "leg suck" where your feet hit the ground and stop but the trike doesn't, so the crosspiece of the trike hits the back of your legs and snaps them real easily...
Oh wth...damn that fast
I am searching for a cheap electric trike that goes at least 40 km/h and please less than 10 000$, preferably 5000$ or less, Thanks!
You could build a really great electric recumbent trike system for around $5000 using a BionX kit like the S-350. Here's a review of that kit installed on a Catrike: electricbikereview.com/bionx/s-350/ and you can see their bike website here: www.catrike.com/
THX, but i am really not in building.
Jilla os I understand, there are some shops that will assemble stuff like this for you and just ship it basically ready to ride. The bike in the video was built by BionX (this was shot at their headquarters in Toronto, Canada) but I've seen recumbent trike builds at Long Island Electric Bikes in New York. If this is an approach you're considering I'd suggest reach out to them. The owner's name is Chris and he's a great guy. If you do buy a bike from them mention ElectricBikeReview.com and they may throw in an accessory or something extra ;)
U talk way to much.. I know ur giving info but I had to skip through most the vid just to c u ride it. Good vid but man
I know right? Imagine him explaining things, informing people, making people smarter. I can see, by the way you type, that you have the attention span of a 2 year old and wouldn't be interested in getting smarter, even though there's obviously a lot of room there.
Queria caber com colocar motor em um desses trisiclos