Lame, But Cheaper: NVIDIA RTX 4080 Super Review, Benchmark Comparison, & Value Discussion
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This video ends up more as a discussion of the GPU market right now, and in particular, the NVIDIA Super series lineup for RTX 40. The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super gets reviewed here and benchmarked vs the AMD RX 7900 XTX, NVIDIA RTX 4080, and we also compare the entire NVIDIA lineup (including the RTX 4090, RTX 4070 Ti Super, RTX 4070 Ti, RTX 4070 Super, RTX 4070, RTX 4060 Ti, and RTX 4060). There are a lot of cards to discuss right now and this piece will kind of re-center everything after weeks of reviews.
If you want the most recent review data in raw format, you can check out these two videos:
RTX 4070 Ti Super review: • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 407...
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - No BS
01:59 - The Original RTX 4080
03:00 - Complete Insanity
04:00 - Objectives of This Review
05:30 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 Super Specs vs. 4080
06:03 - RTX 4080 vs. RTX 4080 Super Comparison
07:14 - AMD RX 7900 XTX vs RTX 4080 Super (Ray Tracing)
08:14 - AMD RX 7900 XTX vs RTX 4080 Super (Rasterization)
09:07 - Value & Dollars Per FPS Considerations
10:08 - Value: RTX 4080 vs RTX 4080 Super Dollars Per FPS
12:15 - Value: RX 7900 XTX vs RTX 4080 Super
15:57 - Limitations of This Chart & Data (Methodology)
19:13 - NVIDIA's Direction on GPU Price & Value Chart
20:27 - Conclusion
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What's the comparison against the 7800 series? AMD is going tier-to-tier, not $-to-$.
So if not for the price drop, this would get the 2024 Waste Of Sand award?
getting more value by saving money for next gen... 😂
Yeah the cost per frame chart is only helpful at the time of review and that's the only time it could be found relevant as there are sales and price reductions throughout the year. To me, the raw performance in various games and settings is what is important and whatever price it happens to be at the time of viewing is more important than a cost per dollar amount. Thanks for your reviews!
I predicted a 5-10% performance increase, I was wayyyyy off. This card at least gets an award for the most disappointing of 2024 so far.
If it pushes RX 7900XTX's or XT's prices down, it served its purpose for me.
That's true! It appears to have done that. Hopefully it's permanent.
LOL nah, you just want the 7900xtx to push the 4080 down, which it did, and now you can buy cheaper green cards.
But AMD is competing the 7900 series against the 4090, they attempt to undercut them.
Not in SE Asia.
@@AlfaPro1337AMD themselves said they are aming at the 4080, which they still have under the XTX
Twenty seconds and I already have my answer.
I love GN.
Gonna sell like hotcakes
I really appreciate them not burying the lead
Watch every US store price this card above the standard 4080. 🙄😳
@@richardwakefield5902 Or the lede
@@AwesomeBlackDudeasus tuf non overclocked is listed at $999 at microcenter
Well. 35 seconds in and I know everything I need to. Thanks, Steve.
I love the fact that that intro is perfectly suited to be a CZcams short by itself. He walks off-camera and that's the end of the video, and it actually works.
the newfound creativity from the team is injecting some much needed freshness, which is good for everyone (team viewers etc).
That was 100% the idea
Telling yall, gamers nexus is a perfect channel. I can’t say it has a single flaw when it comes to computer part reviews and analysis.
Watch every store outside the US price this card above the standard 4080.
Please no
it's probably 1200+ euro in my country lol
This shows just how inflated NVIDIA's prices have been. Only the 4090 is priced reasonably (as in, it makes sense that it's priced high) for what it offers: the 4080 $1200 and 4070 Ti being $800 is much too high. Both cards should be $800 max (4080) and $600 max (4070 Ti).
1080: $700
2080: $800
3080: $700 (not really, but that's what it was intended MSRP)
4080: *$1200*
@@GamersNexus Sadly that's what will happen, because Nvidia doesn't realize (they do) that nobody can afford 4080+ prices outside the "first world" meaning there's a lot of stock 4080 left which they will most definitely want to sell, hence 4080 super being more expensive.
1350€ in Europe
21:55
i need 30 minutes of that
I need that + an additional 1.923678% please.
@sephirothsoul999 I think you accidentally put a period instead of a comma there
Oh yeah. I need 30 minuts of that.
Forget 30 minutes, give Steve a Netflix special
Stand up tech comedy - is it becoming a thing?
I miss the days of when I got shafted by the 780's price drop ($500) a month after I bought it as the 780 Ti released at the same price ($700).
Now a normal x80 card, which performs like an x70, is the price of the old Titans ($1200). And NVIDIA continues to be one of the wealthiest tech corporations on the planet...
Nvidia was helped out by gamers in the early days. Now a giant, Nvidia forgot their parents and fluttered over to the potential of AI for business.
They make the most money with AI though. The consumer graphics department is rather small in comparison. And the 4080 is a real xx80 card. Compare it with the 3080, it's over 30% faster. Yeah the price is too high, but in comparison to other cards from 2023 to now, it's value is pretty good. Like it or not, AMDs cards have a lot worse value because of the bad RT performance and much worse power efficiency.
@@masterluckyluke Performance uplift vs last gen doesn't mean it's that class of a card.
The 780 had a 384 bit memory bus.
The x80 class cards since then were downgraded to 256. It was the Ti's that were all 384 instead (or 354).
The only exception to this has been the 3080 (320 bit), which was held back in other areas (less VRAM than the 1080 Ti is atrocious). On paper the 3080 was about double the performance of a 1080 Ti, but in reality at higher resolutions it capped more around 75%. I returned mine because the performance uplift wasn't as expected.
The 4080, and 4080 Super, both have lower memory bandwidth than the 3080, because NVIDIA downgraded back to 256 bit. If both GPUs had the same core, the 3080 would be faster, especially at higher resolutions.
This is why I, and many others, say the modern GPUs (of both MFGs now) are a class below their naming scheme.
The 4090, sadly, is the only "real" GPU released in the last 5 years, and should've been named a 4080 Ti regardless. The 3080 was great if you didn't have a 1080 Ti though; another small "mistake" NVIDIA won't make again.
@@masterluckyluke Just because its faster than the old one does not mean its a real 80 class card.
Also RT performance does not increase the value meaningfully, and neither does efficiency.
@@DeadNoob451 Efficiency *literally* increases the value, because it reduces total cost of ownership. Doing some of the math, as someone who works in game engines throughout the work-day, my PC rarely dropping to low power states. A conservative saving of 100W for ~8 hour a day, at 95% PSU efficiency, at local energy prices, saves about $120 a year. If I keep the card for 3 years, that's a $360 saving over those years. That's solely considering work time.
There are tons of additional factors too, if it's winter, that power usages actually heats the room (which is desirable), but if it's summer, you might end up with an uncomfortably warm room, or have to run an AC which is extra costs. There's also noise from fans, more power requires more cooling, which makes more noise, or adds more cost to get better cooling. Overall, efficiency is a very important, often overlooked factor.
I've been wanting to build a gaming PC recently and I'm glad to have found a more technical channel like yours. You guys got a solid reputation and I appreciate the work you're doing to be able to go into detail to help first time builders get the best build and save money.
what are thinking about getting?
What a nice generic comment. Almost sounds like a bot.
Price dropped, and still it's 25% overpriced. Can't wait for the 50 series price gouging.
Exactly should be $900 tops. Low 40"s% price increase for high 40's performance increase nearly 4 years later is absurd. The worst we should get is 20% more price for 50% more perrformance altho id forgive $900 at initial launch seeing the 3080 used the worst ga102 dies that nvidia was getting tacked on for free from samsung because samsung violated an agreement or something. Thats also why the 3080 doesn't use ga103 despite that die existing if ur curious.
Apperently AMD is not going to compete at high end at all next-gen so it's not going to be pretty.
I can't wait either.. But I'm genuinely interested in the new product.
Nvidia is the industry leader. AMD is the industry follower.
@@Adrian-is6qn AMD pretty much don't have to. FSR frame Generation works on all DX11 and DX12 games driver-side. I'm not a huge fan of fake frames, but Nvidia will be hyping 5000 series "improved" frame-gen capabilities over 4000 series as the big selling point, so it stands to reason AMD will follow suite with better AI capabilities and less focus on Rasterization.
haha rtx 5090 msrp 3000 usd
No wonder they delayed the reviews.
Yeah, pushed it later by a day... to launch day. Definitely makes sense now.
Typical Gamers Nexus bootlickers! (sarcasm)@@GamersNexus
@@GamersNexus I'm sure it made sense to you days ago when you actually reviewed it lol
But it also makes sense why it’s cheaper
But its stupid for people to buy a card based on its new name alone. Surely people will look at reviews first regardless...like cmon. I sure hope people arent that stupid as to go buy a card without seeing benchmarks. Its another story for peopel upgrading from a couple of gens back.@@GamersNexus
Thank you for putting in so much time on all this testiing
in Germany 4080S are at about 1100€-1250€, and since they lower the price of 4080 non-super version, they cost the same... so "meeeeh". for comparison, 7900XTX are sold from 950€-1090€.
Same in France, they should be ashamed. Last week a salesman told me I should preorder the 4080super 'cause the "specs would be amazing". I want to punch the guy right now...
Glad I didnt do it and still waiting for the downward pressure on prices
Yes, pretty much. Like was to be expected. The 7900 XTX (or XT) is still by far the better deal in Germany if you do not need RT, since the XTX is roughly 200 Euros cheaper. The only small grudge I can now have is that I bought my own RX 7900 XT a little too early for 820 Euros. But I also have it for 6 months already now, so... . Nvidia can keep their GPUs.
I picked up the Gainward Panther 4080 for 1050€ last summer and not regretting it one bit.
@@frantavopicka5259 I've got 4080 Palit Gaming Pro for 970€ at start of May and don't regret in either.
In Estonia the only model available is RTX 4080 SUPER WINDFORCE 16G - 1130-1170 eur, while RTX 4080 regular cost 1200 EUR at the lowest, so its a price decrease of a whopping... 6%, instead of 20% decrease of MSRP
PASS
Gonna subscribe for how quick you were to the summary.
I just subscribed for exactly the same reason
@@stevemeier4228 yup. Watching the rest of the video out of pure respect for GN
Even when the answer isn't plainly laid out you can usually infer the answer by how exasperated or excited he looks in the intro.
$1k for a GPU is insane, I don't care if it is technically cheaper than before.
4090 is marked way up because of B2B for AI. So it drags the rest up as well.
Unless you play a lot of alan wake 2, avatar, and cyberpunk 2077 I don't see why you would buy this gpu here vs saving up for a 4090 or buying the 7900 xtx here but that's just my take here.
@@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf4080's very useful for 3d rendering blender/unreal engine/VRAY where Nvidia is faster than 7900xtx
@@mitsuhh Unreal engine..........gaming is dead soon on the pc.
@@John-PaulHunt-wy7lfCyberpunk still looks great with raster lighting.
In Australia the price actually went up. A 4080 was under 1800 aud, now it's 1870 aud
Yep, and the 4080 supers are on average $100-200 more than their equivalent 4080 counterparts.
I managed to get one for $1599. Sure it's not a massive discount but considering the market is at right now, I'm good with this one.
Don't live in Australia?
@@jackson9415same in Romania. The stores don't want to drop the price of the 4080 Super as long as they still have the 4080 in stock, because no one would buy those anymore
Australian GPU prices are terrible.
Thanks GN, I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't see anything on Power per Watt compared to the 4080.
Love that you do the TL;DW in your intros!
Unlike other channels that have to put the answer at the end of the video to get full engagement, GN knows the people want it upfront and will still watch the rest of the video. Big props to you guys!
GN rocks, they don't sugar coat a BS product.
That's also because fans trust GN enough to hear one sentence and know it's truthful and thurough testing has been done to get that conclusion..answer up front was great and still watched the rest of the vid
99% Jay won't even put the videos subject in the title, he just makes some cryptic hyperbole to get you to click
@@iHaveTheDocuments Do you guys even watch other channels?Every single channel that i follow and posted a review says at the beginning that it is a lame release. Jay's title is "4080 Super is here... and I really don't care...", this is a really good case of "i just got a stroke and started posting diarrhea over the internet!"
@@iHaveTheDocumentsthat channel is crap itself. I don’t even waste a second on it.
Awesome video as always! I hope you use shorts for intros like the one you had for this one lol
First 30s of video -love you guys :D That saved my time alot :)
1st 1min captured all my attention. Best summary ever.
It's definitely better than the frame per dollar pricing metric, which is just terrible in practically every way imaginable.
I came to CZcams for a review and this was front and center. Thanks for the work you do.
22:01, mr editor, you're not wrong there, you got me
lol yes I need 30 minutes of that!
You described me exactly. December 2022 I bought a 7900XTX because it was $200 cheaper than any 4080 I could find. It has been a solid card that I have been supremely pleased with. I understand that raytracing is better on the 4080 but I think a lot of people fail to consider that its raytracing performance is roughly comparable to that of a 3080Ti to 3090Ti, neither of which I think anyone would say are bad at raytracing. Seeing the 4080 super at $1000 might've convinced me, but nonetheless I am happy with my purchase. Loved the video and it was great to see a more nuanced discussion than simply "3% better".
In two or three years one would turn raytracing off to keep frames high in new demanding games. By then the advantage of a 4080 would be irrelevant.
Thanks Steve!
Back to you Steve!
Thanks for being quick & to the point! 😂
That's what she said
@@xelu01 🤣
She says a lot of things@@xelu01
Thank you for the short video. GN soldering mat is a must for every home office or hobbyist venture, I appreciate the quality!
That said I'm glad I've been watching so long as I've used several tips for building my own computer, and I'm VERY thankful that you include so much data to go along with your reviews.
Using a thermal plate for the front and back of the motherboard was 100% necessary for taming an I9 at close to 300 watts. My god, that thing is unruly.
I bought the 7900xtx a few months ago and was worried I'd regret it with the super announcements. But after seeing this I'm still happy with my decision. Ray tracing is not at all a priority of mine, so to see my card still competes the same against the 4080 super is nice.
It also feels like ray tracing has kind of fallen by the way side
Thank you for the 30s review. I'd have stopped there, but I watched the rest for bonus snark.
I enjoy the concept of including a value chart in these reviews. I know you guys will continue to refine and iteration on it.
Always amazed at how your facial expression and posture on the video thumbnail matches seems to match the title.
Leaving a comment for the algorithm because you answered my question right at the beginning instead of making me watch 20 mins of bs. that's a instant-sub, keep it up
I can guarantee you that this card will be more expensive than the base one here in Europe.
sadly 2nd hand markets cannot be regulated, 4090 here costs 3000$ so...
I found a 4080 super for £1,099 not a single clue what that translates into for anyone else.
£1,300+ for a 4080. Y'all got the same price cut we did
@@CYWNightmare £1100 for $1000 card is about a 20% price hike.... you're paying about an extra £200 for it.
@@CYWNightmareI ordered a ProArt 4080 Super with default boost of 2610MHz for £969
It won't, they're already selling. Try again
out of all the charts, the value summary one at the end is my favourite
its also the most useless because the free market will adjust that anyway, for the better or the worse
Your channel is very helpful🙌
Steve is simply OP. Fastest video ever. 34 seconds straight to the point > video is already over! 🤣Jokes a part,good job my dear as usual! Much love Steve 💜
Hey Steve, what shampoo do you use? Thanks for the review btw.
I'm not sure if you've done it already, but a scatterplot of FPS on the y-axis and cost on the x-axis could be a reasonable way to compare cards. The $/FPS would be implicit in that.
Steve one question, 5:35 the perfect full full AD103 die is 10240 CUDA Cores or 12288 CUDA Cores, because I see there is some room left unused (black zones), thank you.
I love the cost-per-frame charts, but some consistency would be nice (like picking a Standard Price-Per-Frame baseline card to compare the new ones to.)
This should have been a short. Thanks for the intro.
All video titles for this "new" release are awesome :)
Love you arcuate statement what summed it up for me - 3:00 * "moderately deranged " ... gold content as always
Fastest GN GPU review! Nice.
NVIDIA's new slogan: Moderatly deranged (by Steve)
Nothing moderate about their derangement.
Buy AMD. Stop whining
@@mikelay5360 When AMD starts supporting professional work gladly. For now NVidia bound. Not everyone just plays games.
@@mikelay5360 literally just quoting Steve
@@NoMaD24623 I want the whining gang to go buy AMD so that I can buy the 4080 super. Simple
legendary intro steve , legendary :)
I've just had my AK620 Digital delivered yesterday :D It looks awesome ;)
I would have really appreciated a more thorough comparison from a Watt/FPS perspective. As is I don't know whether there is a meaningful difference from an efficiency standpoint between the 4080 and 4080S. Would have preferred that over the "value" chart since it just rehashed the point of "it's cheaper while having the same performance therefore it has better value".
I understand that power prices aren't as big a deal in the US right now but at the risk of repeating myself having more than the short "it's basically the same here just a little better"-remark regarding power efficiency would have been nice.
In either case thank you for your continued "No-bullshit" approach to reviews.
Thank you for the intro ❤
Thanks for everything you guys do!
awesome in depth content as usual. thank you for that!
I have a preference for Radeon cards as i do not care for ray tracing right now, it looks good but it's not practical to me as long as mid range offerings sacrifice so much of the performance and need DLSS to compensate, with an 8GB buffer on a 4060/4070/7600 it just doesn't work well. I purchased a 1440p monitor, i'm gonna render at native 2560x1440.
So for now i have a radeon 6800 but i am closely watching intel for the imminent battlemage launch in 2024
first minute is all i needed. thanks steve.
Thanks for all of the reviews as always! Still happy with my 3080 12GB.
It would have been a blast if you uploaded a 35 sec version with the main message of the video, and then you upload the rest for the detail oriented. =]
Here the 4080S starts at 1200€, 4080 stuck at 1500€ due to PC shops doing the scalping.
Put it out as a short, review done.
I wonder if it would go viral as a tik tok short.
Down here in Australia where I shop 4080 is cheaper than 4080Super, comparing Zotac Trinity they are $1679AUD & $1879AUD
@@shaneeslickyeah that's what I just commented, it's like $300 cheaper, cheapest I saw was $1599 for the 4080 and $1870 minimum for the 4080 super
It's not the brick-and-mortar PC shops scalping; the advertised MSRP is almost always US-only prices. Other regions get a different price because _customs_ take a cut via import taxes, and then the shops pass the cost along to you.
And EU prices aren't even the worst; IIRC NZ/AU takes the cake when it comes to hardware import prices.
STEVE! THANK YOU FOR THE 1MIN REVIEW!!
Off to buy some merch and get back to work.
You are right about the price charts. Its hard to display every one and it really depends on what a user wants. The big issue is there are too many variables and price always changes. So keeping up with them could be a hassle and a waste of time as it may be out of date by the time you finish the chart.
Come to Australia, Steve, where you'll be able to buy a 2% on average faster RTX 4080 Super for a 4% price increase ($1870 AUD) over the base model RTX 4080 that was already retailing for $1800 a couple days before Nvidia's CES announcement. Now that's value! Thanks Jensen! What a legend! 👍 PS: don't be a "Super" sucker, and just buy an on sale 4080 for $1500-1600, so you can still get the majority of that "discount" we're supposed to get, like I did. 🙂
4080 on sale? Not happening
It's not Jensens fault. It's the retailers who push the prices because people are buying it.
or. uh. don't buy Nvidia, idk
@@martinkrauser4029not really a choice for those that want to play AAA games with full ray tracing and want assured support for more niche things like hardware eye tracking in high end VR headsets (like I do). If you just need raster performance, sure, buy AMD/XTX. Otherwise, it is not a choice.
I seriously considered a 4080 Super. Then I thought about the last 5ish years, then realized I am only at 1440p, and not even gaming as much as I used to, then realized because of how my build is I would need a waterblock almost immediately (add $250), then potentially a new psu because of the new power connector and wanting some additional overhead, then realized my 3070ti is just fine despite the lack of VRAM at times.
That is the biggest saving a consumer can earn: not buying something you don’t need, so good on you man. I on the other hand, am waiting for 7900 XTX prices to hopefully decrease to get one. I’m buying it to last a good bit of time while I’m in college lol.
you have a last gen gpu and felt the need to upgrade? that's wild, i went from a 1080ti to a 4080 super now, i got my FE ordered just now.
4070 super is a worthy cost-effective upgrade over 3070 ti. 40% more performance & 50% bump over vram.
i play at 1080p with rtx 2060 super & 8gb is definitely a problem. run out of vram in immortals of aveum & other UE5 games
even on low settings & quality upscaling
Most of this is valid and enough to make the choice valid, but Lovelace has less spiky power draw, so a 320W 4080 will end up needing the same PSU as a 290W 3070Ti. Lovelace is also sort of pre-overclocked, so you can lower the power limit with negligible penalty. The water blocks have gotten pricey and the 3x8 pin adapter dongle is not ideal, though.
@@imyournme6632 yeah, that was another thought, "why the hell am I upgrading a generation old gpu", which a lot of it came from the fact that I am hitting a vram limitation in some titles even at 1440p. That's literally it. But, when you work from home, and your pc is also in your "home office" of a second bedroom, you tend to not want to be in there after clocking out for the day which kills my desire to game
Thanks Steve for the 10 seconds summary to the video.
Thanks for the no BS intro, I left the video playing just to give you the ad revenue and to listen to your wonderful voice!
Simp
@@Owen-hg3cu You two should meet up and fight.
What I want to know is how come all the UK 4080 'Non-Super' went out of stock when they supposedly were not selling and prices never really fell from their original MSRP? Did they ship all the unsold stock back to the manufacturers?
China is using them to hack obviously... our news faking bioweapon attacking leaders said to be scared of that so we should listen.
I noticed that too!
They actually might have sent them back. It’s pretty common in retail to do that around new product launches
I mean, what sane person would buy an RTX4080 for ~20% more than they have to? Unless individual retailers are going to eat the cost to discount the non-super, which might well mean they lose money given the slim margins we know the manufacturers get (R.I.P. EVGA).
They hardly produced any in the last 6 months because it wasn't selling, that's how.
1-3% improvement, yikes. So at best this is a price cut, despite the 3080 being $699 at launch (and yes, it was possible to get one at MSRP considering I got two), it's still overpriced even taking into account inflation.
Here's hoping that sales are low and they change their tune for the 50 series.
seriously what did you expect? are you all stupid that you were expecting 10% or what
They can sell 1 5090 ti super xxxxxxxx edition for 1 billion and when it does sell, they wont sell any other cards out of spite.
People need quit buying and sit out a round.
50% faster than a 3080 for a 50% price increase. That is generally how things work.
Very very hard to get a 3080 at MSRP but it was possible.
3:00 This is the summary I needed lol
when it comes to comparison charts, I prefer to see screens where the left half of the screen being used for the fps data of the product you want to compare and on the right half one or two charts which are way smaller in width with values in percentages of products that are compared to the left one.
Im sad we lost out on Steve's banger commentary that decimal joke was great i love when he gets like that
here in spain the price of the 4080 super is pretty much the same as the 4080: 1300 to 1600 euro. no price drop for us.
same here in the netherlands might wanna give it a bit not all gpu variants are for sale yet here and they might put up the price up so people buy the left over stock
@@broodje_racefiets360 I am in the nordics the price has dropped a lot. 4080S are now cheaper than the cheapest 7900XTX's. Looks to me like you need to wait a bit. None of these cards are worth ~1200 euro
The price of the cheapest RTX 4800 Super in Switzerland seems to be 944 CHF, about 1'012 Euro.
Almost the same in Germany. Cheapest at 1.100€ and the normal one was like 1.230€ or some shit. Waaaaay overpriced.
Same as in Australia as it only got about a $200 increase. I just recently bought a 4080 for around $1600, which is only $100-200 more than the 4070ti Super.
This is why I just ordered a t-shirt. Because I got all the info I needed in the first 10 seconds of the video lol.
Excited for my 2023 GPU shirt
I've been eagerly anticipating the latency measurements for the 4080 Super, as mentioned during the 4070 Ti Super review. However, I've noticed that these measurements haven't been provided as expected.
I was really looking forward to this information to make an informed decision about the product. Could you please provide an update on when we can expect to see these latency measurements?
Power consumption in gaming is same?
Wonder when the 4080ti super gt500 srt10 is being announced
Ultra will be first.
Waiting for Turbo edition, that came after super, right?
Thanks for the quick info. Still not interested in building a gaming PC in this environment. You do good work.
I definitely need 30 minutes of that. Thanks Steve.
They aren’t cheaper here in NZ. I just checked the launch prices and they are all as much or more expensive than the cards they replaced. It’s a joke.
They have (normal) 4090 prices here. It's ludicrous.
Yeah GPU prices here are bloody wild. Might just go with the 4070 Super.
Why are the prices here in NZ stupid? The difference between the cheapest 4080 super and the most expensive 4080 super is insane.
Aussie prices also ridiculous. Might be worse in Kiwi Land though
NZ distributors fully take the piss and add $300 to retail. I just import from overseas - I'd rather pay NZ customs $80 to clear something than give PBtech $300 in profit.
I am so glad I purchased a reduced price 4080 yesterday, $300 Aussie dollars cheaper for the original 4080 compared to the 4080 Super.
The 1.5K PNY? I picked one up today just before they sold out.
@@dodda Nice work, I was going to get that one, but then I noticed an email with a link to a discounted price of $1549 for the Galax GeForce RTX 4080 so I went with that instead.
4080s are cheaper than the 4070ti super
I only had to sell one kidney for a 4050 ti super.
Came to this one because it actually includes the 7900xtx in comparison. Absolutely nuts ltt didn’t
Steve: packs the whole review in a single sentence.
The whole auditory: Thanks, Steve!
1-3%? I wasn't expecting much, but nothing? Thanks nVidia.
It's becuase it's actually somehow running at lower clocks than the 4080 lmao. I mean that technically makes sense seeing it's more cores under the same power target but the specs tell u the opposite. Either way if you ocd a 4080 youd get like twice the uplift of the super stock.
I can't wait to get one of these... in five years.
i got 2 you just need to play the refresh game
LOL
or 6, or never
Last chart comparing value proposition of whole current lineup is superb! Thanks a lot! I would also greatly appreciate same chart, but with AMD added and with current + previous generation (like megachart). Basically, that's how I decide on purchase: I set up minimum performance requirement and then try to find best value matching that requirement.
It would be interesting to see if the extra cuda cores gave a more noticeable improvement in workloads like llm training and video gpu hardware transcode
Thx for the fast review. This crap should never be over 800 dollars. Nvidia is out of their minds.
Doubled the price of everything, they have no shame.
4080 super 1000 4080 1100 lol
Why is that? Demand is actually pretty high for them at 1000 dollars. Over on Reddit people all over are upgrading from their 1x/2x cards to a 4080 super right now. I think they made the right call. Most are pretty happy with their Nvidia 40 series cards as well, It tends to be the ones that don't own them that are unhappy with them. If it were 800 dollars would you buy one?
@@McnoobletSpot on man. The ones who can’t afford it are the only ones complaining.
@bsgjj423 because why should they throw away an extra 300 bucks for a card that doesn't offer the same performance to dollar as a 1080 during its time? In 2017 an asus 1080 8gb overclocked was literally just under 700.
But for some reason we're supposed to throw logic to the wind and buy an overpriced product or feel pressured to do so so we won't get called poor?
Come join us in the real world.
this is like the 20 series all over again
Please try following graph, for a single game or many game average place all GPU's on a 2d plot with vertical the average FPS and 1% low FPS and horizontal the price.
Then you can connect the most left cards at each FPS ad the cards that make sense
Has the power connector been improved with these new cards? I have an older 3090 and would like to upgrade but not going to burn my hard earned money. Whats your view on it? When you guys reviewed the original 40 series cards melting wires seemed to be a problem.Is it over now?
4080 was never an issue regarding the connector
Okay Steve, I have to admit, the best part of the video was the ending commercial. A full 3 minute preview of the new Despicable Me. With that length, I got my 30 minutes worth with a smile after all said and done. Blah same card, funny looking movie, forgiven Steve -- best summary. 👍☕🐢
This is great news if you're buying second hand. Already found a 4080 for 650 locally
Great deal
I did better and found ASUS Tuf RTX 4080 one for $550
Where yall getting your GPU’s from?
Where yall getting your GPU’s from?
@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns$550 is sus
I had micro center build me a pc last week. i ended up going with an Ryzen 7 7800X3D and the RTX 4080 super. They had recommended the 4070 but i had a little extra money to spend. I know its not the best value, but i am very satisfied with the perforamce of my machine. I'm getting 140+ fps on most games i play on 1440p and max settings. Maybe i should've stuck with the 4070 but I wanted a bit more and couldn't justify the price tag of the 4090. I'm not as in tune with stuff like this as you all are, but i have to say I'm pretty satisfied with paying about $950 for the gpu
Thanks for the great video.
Honestly, I'm trying to decide which one I should get to upgrade from my 2080 - the 4080S or the 4070 Ti Super. The value seems good on this card but only playing at 1440p, it seems the 4070 Ti Super might be the better value option since I still get the 16 GB of VRAM. Just want something that's going to last me 5-6 years.
Glad you took the Non-BS Approach with this One Steve and Got Right to the Point!
I'd argue if this Drives AMD's Flagship GPUs down in Price (Unlikely, but possible), then this GPU will have served its purpose... Hilariously!
Honestly, I can't be the only one who looks at Flagship GPU Pricing and Going, 'And that's why they don't sell much of them'.
Keep Up the Great Work Man! Get the Rest ya Need!
Nvidia doesnt want to sell gamer gpus, its all AI now, gamers are a nuissance for them
"flagship cards don't sell" how can one man be so wrong lol
Ofc they do. It´s just such a miniscule part of Nvidias business - flagship gamer cards - they couldnt care less really.@@slayerr4365
is it worth getting the 40 series for VR though? that could be my biggest decision maker
I have a 4080 and it’s great in VR and a good card. I mainly play sims in VR. But it’s still an expensive card.
I feel like... even the 4090 doesn't have the power to do VR justice, unless you've got foviated rendering like PSVR and can render at lower quality in your peripheral vision.
Same, allegedly Amd cards drop a lot of performance in vr relative to their position for normal games, is that correct? There's s almost no vr benchmarks comparing them
I have valve index and use a rtx 4090, I play vrchat and that uses a hell of alot of vram because multi player, and that's one reason I got the 90. However, if you are interested in single-player a 4070 will be a good card for vr
edit,,, if your in the market for a second hand GPU for vr look out for a rtx 2070 supper
the AMD issue is for vr STREAMING, because their encoding capacity isn't great. now however there's AV1 support for 7000 serires, and it's not as bad.
@@forferdeilig
Nice 35sec review 👍
I was wondering if the Super series would make me regret transitioning to AMD but I am still happy with my 7900xtx as a gamer not particularly concerned with RT
Out of curiosity, have yall heard about Gigabyte cards PCBs fracturing and them refusing to RMA or offer repairs?
This issue exists for some time now, the fist cases I saw online were 3080s. And yes in those cases Gigabyte had refused to RMA them. I don't what the situation look like right now.
@@hetace it looks the same, but with 4000 series cards. Good old Gigabyte, never change
@@hetace Yeah Im wondering if I should even try to RMA my 3090 Xtreme or just bit the bullet and buy a 4080 Super. Worst part is I like the look of the Gigabyte 4080 Master or maybe a MSI Gaming Trio
@@thickachu4001Considering the 4080 is a much heavier card the the 3080 I would advise against the Gigabyte card (although I agree it does look good). I have a msi 4080 gaming trio, been using it for about 6-7 months now with no issues. If I were you I would try to RMA the 3090. Even though the odds are not good, you got nothing to lose except maybe a bit of time.
@hetace Honestly no matter what card I get, it's getting mounted vertically. Should have done that with the 3090, but I just bought a support bracket
The last graph does a good job reminding us why SLI and Crossfire was a thing some time ago.
what happened to it ? ive been out the game for a while
@@dznuttzonyachin7499 People stopped using it and support was finicky anyways
@@dznuttzonyachin7499they really began phasing it out with 10 series. I didn’t have a PC until then, so my guess would be because splitting the load across two units has significant drawbacks. I remember SLI being talked about a lot, but I didn’t build during that time.
I’d be more interested if someone can bring an Apple “Ultra” style processor to market in a graphics card. Not sure what PCIe gen will be needed for that to be effaceable.
@dznuttzonyachin7499 from what I can gather and assume it just seemed like a flop in general. Great potential but the actual ramifications (if that's the right word?) Were too much. Support for the sli and crossfire was just not practical I suppose.
I'd take this with a grain of salt as I also was not paying much attention as it phased out. I just remember building my first PC and hearing about all the issues with SLI configuration, and apparently they just never got fixed until Nvidia and amd just slowly killed them completely.
@@dznuttzonyachin7499 It's been gradually dying and presently appears dead.
On RTX3000 seires only 3090 and 3090Ti were equipped with NVlink connector. On RTX4000 none of the cards have it.
Not sure if current AMD drivers have an mGPU toggle.
Software support also appears to be pretty dead - every game developer is more concerned in optimizing their games for one powerful GPU rather than 2+ less powerful units, I guess it saves them development time and cost.
As I see it, in the past the point was you either buy one top of the line GPU (like xx80Ti) or for roughly the same or less money you could buy two medium-level GPUs like xx60 series. You'd get same or better performance for sligtly more heat and power consumption. But then it degraded in steps:
-- on 1000 series you could just do SLIand run up to 4 GPUs
-- on 2000 series you needed an expensive NvLink bridge and could join only 2 cards
-- on 3000 series you still needed an NvLink bridge, but only the most expensive and power-hungry cards had the NvLink connector
-- on 4000 series none of the cards have a connector for NvLink, and I expect driver support to be dropped relatively soon as well
Amazing intro! I stuck around anyway just to support the channel :)
This intro rivals that of the 'Not too much thermal paste video'
Thank you so much tech Jesus 😊
It’s 1300us here in Australia, it’s an absolute scam that should be avoided
Do these new cards have the new 2x6 power adaptor or the original 12V Fire hazzard one? Everyone keeps says 12V adaptor, which is quite surprising considering the thousands of carrd impacted by the issue