Procreate Dreams Review
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The selection tool does not exist, it is such an essential tool in animation... to resize, adjust part of the drawing.... I hope it will be added soon…
Team Procreate has already stated that they’re working on a Selection Tool and that it will be in an early update. 👍
I just wish they'd instead added all these features to core procreate. Maybe as a paid DLC or whatnot.
Would be much more feature-complete.
@@otisframpton yes I think that the application will be quickly updated and improved thanks to user feedback ☺️✨
Especially the reference layer. Which is very important for coloring separate layers.
@@antares3030 procreate doesnt have selection/lasso tool???
As somebody who struggles with clean line art, it REALLY bugs me that they don't have line stabilization of any kind. It's also a bummer that there isn't any way to create basic shapes, especially for all the motion graphic artists out there. I really hope they implement all that into the app sooner than later. Until then, I can see myself creating most of my drawings in the regular Procreate app and then just importing them into Dreams for compositing and more specific animation.
Isn’t line stabilization part of the brush settings? I imported one of my procreate brushes into it and the stabilization is fine
@@azukidere It is part of brush settings, but if you go into the basic settings of the Procreate app you're able to toggle it on/off no matter what brush you use. They're also missing the feature where you can draw a shape/line, hold it for a few seconds, and it straightens out.
Side note: how do you import specific brushes into Dreams? I couldn't find an option to do so.
@@benhmedia drag from procreate
If you’re having trouble importing brushes, try to have both apps on screen- when I tried to do it in full screen it didn’t work
I am willing to bet they are already hard at work on updates. Hopefully it comes soon!!!
can you do a video comparing this to toon squid? Comparing their features and how each app excels in what areas compared to the other?
i love toon squid! i second this :)
@@GhostPaprika toon squid is good with importing HEVC files. Dreams says they can't do it
ToonSquid is better in almost every way. Which is a shame cause I was crazy hyped for Dreams since it was announced
It’s itsalexclark! Woah!
@@christianr.5868lol
Hey there Brad! So what you're dealing with at the 7:35 ish mark, if you press and hold on the imported procreate file, you can hit convert to tracks, and each Procreate layer will be it's own thing- that's one of the things I showed in my video up this morning 😄
Is your video coming up today.
@@LifeOfTanish yep it’s out now!
great stuff! thanks Brookes!!
Followup question, please…I got so frustrated with Dreams’ limited drawing features that I swapped back to Procreate, made a multi layer drawing there, imported to Dreams, converted layers to tracks…and it auto filled my drawing into every frame across the entire timeline. Why does it do that?
@@TheGreatUndergroundEmpire It seems to be that way by default. How I got around it was splitting it where I wanted it to end and deleting the “infinite” bit.
I like it, but there are WAY too many basic missing features, like how the heck is it that I can't change the order of my layer in the drawing tab... that's like one of the most basic things you can expect to have in a software that involves drawing and isn't called MS Paint.
You actually can :) just hold it and drag whenever you want, and if you want to stick it to the beginning of a timeline then hover around it a little bit and a red line will appear - hope that helps 😊
@@sergeki108 I mean the layers that you draw on. Not the layers in the timeline. I know I can drag those. My problem is that if I draw line art on one layer and then want to put a layer under it with colors I can't just create another layer underneath and color, I have to make another track underneath and drawn on it which really overly complicates something that is a basic function of any drawing app I've ever used (other than MS Paint). I'm sure it will get better with updates, but I don't know... this feels more like a beta than a full price product.
Strangely enough even MSPaint is getting that feature in it's next version.
@@TheBadasssnoopy what no you don’t just create a new layer drawing then drag underneath the line art in flip book mode
@@TheBadasssnoopySame. I couldn’t believe something that basic wasn’t included. Or like others said, there are no move/rotate/scale tools in drawing mode, you have to handle that back out in the tracks. It’s like they expect you to either work only with tracks as layers or know exactly where and what you’re going to draw on every single layer in that one frame starting from the back and working forward.
It’s kind of part of procreate’s brand to be as minimalist as possible, which has caused me some frustration with both the drawing app and now dreams. I know some people prefer the cleaner, sparser interfaces - but I would much prefer a full tool bar than having to go on epic quests to find tools and features when I draw. It’s the same thing here: in order to turn on onion skin, I have to *click on the timestamp?* It doesn’t even look clickable. They hide it all away. Just add an onion-shaped button! It would be cute! No one would yell at you! ❤
just looking at how little he got done in 1 week, with having parts of it for months, shows me that its not a good animation program. CSP has its limits, but its years ahead of this, and looks like easier to get into
@@TraktorTarzananimation takes time 🤡🤡
Remember. This animation app is on a iPad, not on some huge animation tablet like huion. I think the simplicity is helpful because it’s not as overwhelming to a new user, than most animation apps. I do agree with you about that, but you have to keep the iPad part in mind. Jazza’s video on “ you can animate on procreate” has a better message about my point, if u don’t understand what I’m trying to say.
omg onion button would be so cute :))
@@TraktorTarzan of course it’s years ahead dreams is barely a day old need to give time for updates
Honestly I think it’s pretty impressive how much of the animation you managed to do during that beta. I definitely want to see the rest of peeing in space ☝️
Hi! I love your channel, your art and tuts! and yea +1 for him to finish and release the peeing in space animation
I’m pretty sure he said he did this animation with the full app not the beta & he said he only had about a week with the full app which is when he started on the intro of his peeing in space script which is super impressive! (could be wrong tho)
A beta that costs 20$ 💀
Some tools are missing 😢
Yeah, where’s the reference layer tool? Where are the clipping masks? I rely on these heavily for my art.
I miss a ton of the settings too on procreate (drawing app) that arent on procreate dreams, hopes that they take user reviews and adds on it down the road
@@CamMationsclipping mask is in the time option. Not layer option
come on, it's only version 1, and it's only a small team, let's have some patience, I mean roma wasn't built in a day and neither was procreate.❤❤❤
@@beckerdraw6035ok what if it takes dcades
No autoshape or reference layers really got me. That, and they took away the pen pressure curve! That tool alone helped make procreate usable for me, I have to apply a lot more pressure in dreams which makes it less enjoyable
wait, you cant change the pen pressure curve?
@@TraktorTarzan nope, there’s no option for it
I think until these bugs are all fixed, I’m just gonna draw everything in Procreate and insert it into Dreams when ready to animate. That is, however, because I’m not working frame by frame and prefer keyframes/performing instead
Im so mad at the lack of alpha lock and clipping mask and no lasso tools. These are useful in procreate and saves you a lot of time. When animating you have to learn how to be efficient so it’s really a bummer they didn’t include those.
Doesn't procreate has lasso tool and clipping mask ?
I found that when you import drawings from procreate, into dream. You can convert those layers into tracks. I kind of found that helpful. I am not an animator but I feel like this is helpful for people like me wanting to start animating my drawings
How do you do that?
I'm trying and it doesn't work😢
@@AhiruArtist what put do you need help on? Importing or converting?
@@deedee3554 importing
Import your porject by split screen and dragging a procreate file from your gallery into the timeline on dreams, close procreate and let dreams import the file it might take a few seconds depending on how much is in the drawing. Then once it's imported it'll make a track then hold the track down and click track settings > turn track into layers or something like that then it groups all your procreate layers into a group. one thing I have noticed is it sometimes seems to reset blend modes and sometimes opacity but apart from that works great once you know how.@@AhiruArtist
Working with it now; a fun tip is you can use split screen and drag and drop whatever you made in procreate and drop it into dreams!
Also tip to others not in the forums (join the forum btw) there is a eyedrop selection tool if you hold down. A lot of hidden macros that aren’t intuitively known. They need to embed a link to a manual
I tried that and it only added it as an image file, how do I get it to import the layers or is that not possible? or am I just not looking hard enough for them?
@@pixiepumpkin14 Once you have them both open in Split View, make sure your new Dreams file is open and don’t open the one in Procreate; just drag it into the new open Project in Dreams. I made a character turn around and it imported the series of drawings as playable animation. Hope this helps!👍🏾
@@JustJacob-nt8eu How do you join the forum! Thanks for the tip!
@@JustJacob-nt8eu Help Handbook etc is linked on the movie's settings page.
The forum is on the procreate Folio menu as discussions.
So glad it’s not just me that’s struggling wrapping my head around this. I definitely feel the pain of having an idea of what you want to see, and knowing how to do it in other software, but not in this until you stumble upon moving and scaling next to the blur effect. I feel like transform tools in the flip book view are an odd omission. I’m guessing I’ll be doing most of my drawing in procreate since it’s a lot more polished at this point.
I want a lasso tool while drawing mode. I miss this.
I am so confused on why they would omit this... :( Thanks for commenting. /srs
Gotta admit, it’s easier to animate in regular Procreate. But only been on it for a day. It’s powerful yes. But things are hidden.
my thoughts exactly, and animating on regular procreate isn’t even that great in the first place! i got so excited hearing about dreams because i want to rotoscope and procreate just hates that process, but dreams makes it so hard to do frame by frame rotoscoping or even just frame by frame anything
@@lightworthyI had that same problem! procreate dreams sucks-
See the online Handbook, interfaces and gestures, settings, and keyframe options where you can apply effects. Catch videos from Art and Motion, Stayf Draws, Bookes Eggleston, Bardo Brushes.
@@lightworthyyou can do all of that
Unrelated but, I’ve been watching you since you had WAY less subscribers, and I’m so proud that your channel has grown so big!!
I remember thinking “why doesn’t he have more subscribers?” because no one else was reviewing art products like you were.
Anyway, great job Brad, very happy for you!
What a beautiful lesson and reminder here: how previous knowledge, beliefs, ideas, and expectations may make harder understanding new ways of doing things. "Rewind and reset" is challenging sometimes.
So for me, the worst part about dreams so far is that it really feels like they want you to make the frames inside of procreate and not dreams because procreate has all the art and drawing tools but that doesn't make sense to me why I have to go to their other app in order to draw the frames inside of their animation app. And then as for me I have a 2019 iPad Pro and the only thing I find is export and takes literally forever
thats why im sticking with toonsquid coz im drawing on procreate and animate on toonsquid and its cheaper than dreams, i kinda hate anything apple related but procreate is a onetime payment app, and easier to use, ill switch to dreams after they put similar tools from procreate, i bet they wont do that, coz people are gonna ignore the og app😂 its really an apple thing, make us spend money and feel dumb😮
@@sohappyilltryi feel the exact same way, i’m sticking with toonsquid
I have an iPad Pro 4th generation and most of the export options are broken, hundreds of people are complaining in forums about the same thing. You have to dig down to ProRes to get anything but it freezing at 2%. How do you release an app whose basic export function doesn’t work?
OMG EXACTLY!!! It’s HORRIBLE coloring/drawing in dreams
Your videos are always on point Brad, we appreciate your honest opinion.
Excellent, excellent review! I was absolutely looking forward to Dreams and I'm still excited about trying to overcome the learning curve but oh my, there certainly is a curve.
Side note, there also seems to be a bug with exporting as video - thought it was just me, but seems to be affecting lots of people on reddit also.
A solution to the duplicating frames issue you mention at 8:36: grab one end of the frame you want to extend, tap a second finger on screen and then drag. That'll allow you to extend the frame you want to whatever length AND it'll push the frames around it so there's no gap. You can see this in action in my tutorial I just posted on my channel (at the 13 min 58 sec mark). Much faster and easier than duplicating. Great video as always! It's amazing how much animation you created in such a short time!
Great tip! So funny that I just watched your tutorial before this one and was thinking the same thing ^_^.
@@OtakuBoxes Hah, nice! There's always a learning curve for a new app, and there's definitely a lot of hidden gestures in this one - just like Procreate.
i know they're gonna add in lots of stuff with updates over time but right now it feels kinda unintuitive, especially compared to apps like toonsquid or roughanimator 😅 the gestures and menus are so wonky and hidden sometimes, and it's hard to animate on 2s, 3s, etc. for me the one thing this has over toonsquid so far is the ability to tween a drawing with the warp tool
toonsquid has a warp tool too only problem is that you can’t use it on many layers
@@nikkim7038 yeah from what i know there is a warp tool but you can't really animate with it using keyframes like you can with position, rotation, opacity, etc. dreams can but it's still pretty limited
Definitely was having trouble animating on 3s…I want to love the flip book mode but it does not function with that work style at all
The learning curve is very frustrating (it took me a long time to figure how to do basic frame-by-frame animation), though when you do learn, the results are a joy. But...I cannot export anything at the moment, a very frustrating bug they need to fix pronto. I'm glad to hear bug fixes, etc are imminent. As this app really can be a gamechanger, once they iron out beta problems.
why not just get krita or CSP?
@@TraktorTarzanyou kind of miss the point of an iPad based animation tool???? 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
i hate that its incomplete and it doesnt even have a selection and lasso tool
8:50 to hold a frame over a given amount of time, select the frame so it’s highlighted and then grab the farthest edge of that frame in the timeline and drag left/right to resize for how much time you need it to hold for. Hope this helps peeps 😊
and if you want to hold multiple frame at the same time you can put one finger on screen while draging that will do
I hope they add an easier way to do this, because it's kind of a pain to keep doing that, or to do it after the fact. It'd be nice if you could tell the program to hold frames in flipbook mode, or be able to select a bunch of drawings in the timeline and tell it to make them all hold for X number of frames.
Not sure if this is the case for other people, but when I am extremely zoomed in, so that I can see each individual frame, I only seem to be able to extend the length of the last frame in the sequence. If I try to extend any other, my pencil or finger will just select the frames next to it. I also was able to extend a first or middle frame if I moved the upcoming frames away and made empty space where I could extend the frame I was working on. I think it should just push the following frames forward instead of needing me to make empty space. If you have found a workaround, please share.
Some thing else in regard to resizing frames, I found that it works better if you attempt to shorten it before dragging outward in the same gesture. If you select an attempt to drag out word, it’s more likely to move the play header of the timeline.
I just hope it keeps getting updates for general use and not a special update just for some new iPad with a weird feature.
For normal Procreate, most of us would prefer enhanced gradient maps or some other industry feature that could be improved. We don't care if the next iPad lets you blow the pencil like a whistle or something lol
Much Love to you for your Tusky Valley shirt, Brad. I was at the event the HS band was coming to perform for in Columbus last week. Such a tragedy. Sending all friends and family my best this holiday season
Thanks Joe. A good friend of mine was a teacher at Tusky who died on the bus that day. It's been a rough few weeks.
I’m glad to hear you’re beginning to like it - I was so excited before but I’ve been struggling all day not to throw my iPad across the room 😂 having to hold down with a finger from your other hand in order to extend a frame is so cumbersome for something so vital. Only being able to flip between *frames* and not drawings in flipbook mode means you can only animate comfortably on 1s and not flip between key poses, and there are no frame numbers unless you double click and zoom in ridiculously?? I have a lot of hope for this app and I’m looking forward to trying it out more. But man, the timeline is not very welcoming rn… 🎉
Thanks for making this! It was really useful even after I bought the software. Patiently waiting for the selection tool to be available, that's a big one for roughs for me.
A bit disappointed. It seems the better way to go is to still do most of the work in Procreate and then import into Dreams for animation. As of now this isn’t justifying a $20 app
20$ is not THAT much, but I agree with your feeling of being a bit disappointed that they left out some key things from Procreate (Autoshape, Stabilisation, Brush customisation, selections) that I can not really use it for drawing as much as I would like. I am not sure why they chose to emit so many key features, but judging by their forum it seems to be by design. I hope they change their mind on this.
If you haven't already,
Give Toon Squid a shot. Much more complete package with robust features for half the price (9.99).
Either that, or Rough Animator
@@jeffreypostma6832 true, but it’s hard to justify when ToonSquid offers a lot more feature complete experience for half the price
8:55 you can extend the frame length in the timeline by holing and dragging it. Make sure you make room for the extra frames though by moving the next frames ahead on the timeline.
I just learned this from another comment, but you can actually automatically move the upcoming frames. If you touch a finger to the frame you want to move while dragging it’s edge with a second finger.
If you want to do a "ripple" edit, hold a finger on the screen while changing the length of a frame. The frames to the right will move left or right, staying attached to the right side of the frame you're changing.
There doesn't seem to be a way to automatically do this when you cut a frame. But you can get the same effect if you cut a frame, lengthen an adjacent frame to fill the space, then use the "ripple" trick while restoring the frame to its original length, pulling the frames to the right to the left along with it.
There should really be a ripple editing mode. In fact, it would make more sense as the default than the way it works now. I mean, why would you _want_ gaps between your frames under most circumstances?
Thank you so much for this comment! I didn’t know what a ripple edit was but reading ahead I was struggling to do the exact same thing. Thanks again!
You're a champ.
Since it’s a first gen app I would expect them to give us more tools like rigging, lip sync, brush import or syncing with procreate. Just please give me a preferences menu to customize the UI.
Yeah it seems like it could end up being a good app- there’s a lot to improve on and add, though (especially with settings features). Access to brush settings and pressurization settings that are available in Procreate would be a big one, as well as some other things available in Procreate like the drawing guide, effects, etc.
I've learned keyframe animation at school, so procreate dreams is the perfect app for me to get deeper in animation I think. I'm mostly used to making a puppet in illustrator and then importing it into after effects, but now that dreams is here, I feel like I can make animations on par with if not better than I used to do. In way less time. I just wish it didnt crash this much
I was so excited for this, then horribly disappointed after a few hours of testing. The app is terrible. The timeline controls are glitchy, jump around and undo randomly, the export function is mostly broken, most of the Procreate drawing tools and features weren’t included, and the handbook doesn’t even begin to cover how unintuitive this is. It seems like they got really excited and released a half finished product. Getting a refund as soon as my “Pending Purchase” clears the Apple Store.
Brad! Do you intend to update the ranking "Drawing Tech Top 10 lists" on your website with the latest pen displays you reviewed?
Yeah I am really enjoying Procreate Dreams but I am very surprised they didn't release an official series of tutorials at launch! Yep there are other people who have kindly made some videos on CZcams but for the actual devs not to release EVEN one tutorial is baffling!
this was exactly what I'll need. Thank you
I have the 2018 ipad pro, is it good enough or should I upgrade? ***And you answered this at the end. Haha. I'll get it and see how it runs on mine and give you an update.
Hi, I have a question how many minutes does this new app allow you to animate? Can it covers like 5 minutes? Or only small amounts?
hey question is there a way to record or does it auto record your drawing.
also is there different views you can export them?
I just watched your tutorial on Procreate Dreams, which was released yesterday. Everyone seems excited about this app and its potential to make animation much easier. I've recently subscribed to it on my iPad Pro and have embarked on my journey with your tutorials as my guide. Your insights and reviews, especially since you had early access to Procreate Dreams a few months ago, have been incredibly helpful. It's your review that has inspired me to start my journey with Procreate Dreams.
So what you're telling is that Toon Squid is better in almost every way. At least until further updates.
Pretty much
Yup, the ToonSquid dev is even planning on adding rigging
@@christianr.5868 sweeeeet
I think itd help if they added a guide themselves, just a quick walkthrough of how to use things maybe with an example animation.
Really hoping for some more tools soon too as it feels a bit steep going into it at the moment. Like tou said the lasso was what i was looking for until i realised i need to just redraw each part in a different space or put it on its own track but that makes things a lot more complicated and longer to create.
I'd like a walkthrough of some of the inssne animations some people have made so far but I assume it's often not just 1 person making them
Okay, I figured how to hold a frame for longer. If you have a frame ahead of the one you want to expand you have press hold and drag that frame the appropriate distance down the timeline. Then press and hold the edge of the frame you wish to expand and drag it.
Nice... amazing stuff...Got access today as well...
I just can’t wait for the Dreams engine to roll back to Procreate!
my app literally keeps crashing as I try to add audio, the only way I managed to work around it by adding a video with a white background with the sound that I needed :,) and even not counting that it crashed ab 3 times already (quite randomly too). It's very... frustrating. It's not like my iPad is old or my IOS is so not sure what's going on. also, I may be wrong, but the lasso tool is also missing as well as other features, transformation tool therefore is a bit clunky. I haven't found a way to edit the brushes in any sort of way, except for editing them in procreate and then exporting them to the dreams app. I could go on and on about what went wrong with the app for me but honestly, I'll just choose to believe in the devs and in their ability to make it all work in a patch or two.
i’ve been testing on my iPad 9th gen, and it’s going pretty well! one thing i noticed in terms of limitation, is that the onion skin function only allow you 4 layers (behind and forward), not a big deal for me. It had crashed a feeeeew times, but i hope they correct this in further releases 🤩
Oh wow! Performance mode (@ 9:53) sounds like a really fun feature to play with! in the off chance Procreate Dreams enter the Android app environment I'd definitely grab it specially if they keep the 1 time payment model
I used it for some minutes right when it came out. It was near my bed hour so I didn't fiddle much with it. My Ipad is a pro 2017, 12 inch, the second generation, only 64gig of memory. The app crashed the first time I opened it, I lost the welcome screen. The second time it opened normally, and I had to look for the welcome screen to read the information there. After that it played very smooth, no hiccups: I looked trough the example files, then started sketching with the flipbook, no problems. Then I turned on the onion skin (had to research to know where it was), and the brush started delaying a little. Later today I'll play with it a little more, but I hope I don't run into any problems.
I think the best way to use this app is just to animate complete your drawing and coloring in procreate and then continue to animate in dreams 👍
Hey Brad, thanks for all the videos you've made about Dreams as it rolls out. I've been eagerly awaiting the launch but have hit some issues with my 2nd gen iPad Pro (12") on Day One.
I hadn't realized the limitations on the number of content tracks (only 50) and no 4K. And the difficulty in actually moving elements of a drawing around is a drag, Procreate is just so much better for creating images
I have been meaning to upgrade my iPad, so I guess I have an excuse, but like you, I have struggled with not having a proper manual - I imagine they will put one out that is as great as the one they have for Procreate.
Bottom line, though: I love drawing with Procreate on the iPad, but this interface feels very cumbersome - I think I may end up returning to Procreate, After Effects, FCPX, Apple Motion, and Character Animator to bring my drawings to life.
Really appreciate this overview. I was so excited for Dreams, but since I am a newbie at animation it is a bit intimidating. Been following you for a while now, great insights as always!
I was looking into Dreams to see if it can replace my current animation setup, but I've concluded that the release day version can't. It has a lot of advanced features and capabilities that I was really excited about, however the lack of a selection tool, the lack of shape and line tools, the inability to edit brushes, and having to jump through hoops to make proper hold frames are dealbreakers. Not to mention, I've haven't even heard anyone bring up a mirrored/symmetric draw mode, which is pretty important to have for drawing head-on figures and artificial settings. I hope these features get added in future updates, but until they do I won't switch
Jo, Performance Mode looks sick! I hope they keep improving the App because that would be a game changer for my animations!
Hey Brad, I watched a video earlier showing the repeat frame for X amount of time thing......I believe you just tap and hold the left or right edge of the frame you want to repeat and then drag it out to the number of frames to hold for.
Omg thank you I could not figure out how to do frame by frame
Brad are you going to create a course on how to use it? I see u have an animation course for the regular procreate
I feel like a bought an early access app. Something that’s pre beta. Like it has many of the foundational traits but are lacking MANY key components as well as a plethora of QoL and optimizations. Also no 1mx1m canvas. Only a rinky dink 3840x3840. So big sad there as I thought was mindblowing at the time of the presentation.
It’s a good app. It is useable but it is missing a lot of features I always considered to be standard.
(Edit) I stand corrected on 9th gen iPad it will not export video it just hangs. Such a shame.😢
Update: Try uninstalling and reinstalling the app if you have this issue. It worked for me. (Actually, it turned out out they updated it)
WAIAT YO just go to ‘custom’ export option and use prores for the codec instead
I'm having the same problem. Never gets past 0%. I have a 2018 12.9" iPad Pro (3rd Gen), 512 GB. Hoping they fix it soon.
@@OtakuBoxes if you go in the community page there is an open thread about the issue please report it there. The more people that do this the better. So spread the word to others
@@OtakuBoxes I think I found a solution. I had to uninstall and reinstall the app. Now it works smoothly.
I had same export trouble on M2 12.9
V1.0.5 i think fixed it.
would you recommend this to someone who doesnt have animation experience? would it be easier for someone who doesnt have the habits from other animation software?
Might actually be. The reason I struggle with procreate is how used I am to photoshop, and the reason I struggle with dreams is how used I am to TVPaint. It may not have that annoyance factor for somebody brand new! And in any case, it’s cheap and procreate is a nice company to support if you want to try it out
Thanks for the video! I’m definitely in those first couple hours and I’m struggling a lot with keyframe animation. Easing settings are like three clicks deep, popup menus seem unpredictable, no easing curves editing, no copying of keyframes, no looping (which I thought was in the promotional materials?) When moving/scaling by keyframe it’s unpredictable whether my selection scales by one axis, scales by both axes, or moves.
Frame by frame is definitely super smooth, but not mainly what I was looking for. I’m sticking by it but I do recognize the experience of frustration at this point
Been using it already and I love it although getting used to pinching and the timeline is awful. There are already some great tutorials online so I hit the ground running. But I did often end up going into Procreate to do things I can't do in Dreams, so they're definitely going to be closely tied together in my work flow.
The animation was AMAZING Brad!!!! Ever think of making a channel that just contains video animation shorts where you retell funny history moments? 😁😁😁😁
Dreams reminds me a lot of how Krita used to feel when they started to add animation Tools.
I love that mix of frame-by-frame focus with a little bit of motion graphics tools (to make tweaks without having to redraw each Frame) .
Unfortunately 2 essentials (essential for me at least) are missing right now.
- A Lasso tool to make quick edits/transformations in the frame
- The ability to move all selected frames at once for quick timing adjustments.
For now it is a nice middle ground between the cheaper yet jankyer RoughAnimator and the way more expensive Callipeg.
There’s a pretty nasty bug that’s kinda hard to notice and it’s with anti-aliasing at different zoom levels. If you create a pixel brush and zoom out and draw it’ll get anti-aliased but if you zoom in enough it’ll remain pixel perfect this is not how it works in procreate, Lines stay pixel perfect when drawn with a pixel brush which is good for filling with color drop.
This is important as many animators work with aliased lines for ease of color work and selection without things getting fuzzy.
This problem is very pronounced at 4K but it’s more easily mitigated at 2k and below. I still have more testing to do about this bug, but as of right now I can’t use it for animation in my workflow
Yeah! I noticed a similar issue! Even with standard brushes. Im used to drawing from afar and im not a fan of zooming in, but if i draw as im used to the drawing looks really low quality and if i draw really really close (which kinda hurts my eyes and is uncomfortable in general.) My lines look fine. Its really weird. Hope theyll fix that cause app looks promising
(It also freezes from time to time :/)
I can’t export my videos….. It won’t go past 1%
Mine too @@phillippia
Im sorry to report that it isnt a bug :/ people said the same thing on twitter and procreate responded it was on purpose. They linked an article about it. Idk if youtube allowes links in comments so i cant link it now.
@@kajlilaro thank you so much for that reply. I have a bit of good news procreate founder mentioned in the forums that they are looking to implement the correct behavior in a future update, but it may be limited to beefier iPads with more memory
I'd love to see how you do the lipsync workflow you mentioned.
Haven’t had time to dive into it, but it looks so cool. Only £20, and updates and tutorials will swiftly follow
The timeline works like flash/animate it's its mixed frame by frame and tweening. You can split the time line or use key frame or both.
Hi, great video ,how do I get the other animation project files , like joyride as mentioned in your early access video
Bro yesterday i downloaded the app & went straight looking for ur page. Didn’t have it then, but watched it now. Already super helpful. Looking forward for more content as you go through the app.
Can u also make a tutorial on making a person walk. Like how to do leg movements
Cheers man 🎉🖤
I do want to get this, I'm very interested but I'm gonna hold off just for a little while. Wait for some tutorials to build up and let the Procreate team do a little bit of bug squashing.
I've been using it on the 2018 12.9" iPad Pro with 256GB storage and it's doing alright with performance but I definitely notice that my iPad is chugging a bit. There are a few glitchy things and I had 1 crash even though there were only 2 small tacks on the timeline, one being a new empty track. The app is still useable and once I started to get going it adapted a bit but it was enough worth noting! I think this app is mainly for the M1 and M2 family, although can still be used pretty well on older versions, you should expect some glitches on anything older than a 2020 or 2021 model.
I think this is gonna help me storyboard my animation memes. Lot’s of features and I can automatically import my procreate artworks into dreams by a simple hold and drag
but lipsyncing is not as good as in toonsquid, its just that dreams is more convenient to transfer, my love and hate with apple and the apps😂 spend money makes your works easier but theres a lot of frustrations😂
@@sohappyilltry?? I never said anything about toonsquid and its lip-syncing. My comment just meant that dreams is more convenient for me (edit: which you said)
Here's an idea for what might be a good evergreen video: Just a quick video (but not a "short"), showing different levels of diagonal line wobble. You can explain which levels are tolerable for which kinds of drawing. And then show exactly why, and how different levels of wobble affect different kinds of drawing, painting, and note taking.
I thought of this while helping someone on Reddit. I wished you had a video about this that I could send them a link to. They were unsure if their stylus/laptop combo would be good enough because they had no experience with what good and bad looked like.
You could likely get a lot of the video from old clips. Edit it together, and do a voice-over.
I haven’t used Procreate Dreams yet but I bought it, in terms of only tweening animations (no frame by frame) is ToonSquid better?
Personally I feel like they wanna differentiate Procreate and Dreams. If Dreams got all the Procreate features? Why not just get Dreams? They want people to use both Procreate and Dreams and I'm fine with that
I have to imagine eventually the two will merge, its just too early and they have a lot of things to port over.
Ihat doesn’t mean dreams should be half an app. If you don’t have original procreate, you don’t even have access to the brush editor, can’t adjust stabilization or anything
There are ways to add Procreate features while making the two different, not everyone wants to animate
@carteranimationz2897 so don't animate, there's no reason to keep them separated long term
Reordering Drawing Layers, Straights, Curves, and Polygon Snapping, Box Selection, Streamline, Motion Filtering, and Brush editing is not there. I already need an update lol
You can create a hold by dragging the frame out like callipeg. Though it seems you can only do this if there are no frames after it.
@sebastianchamplain no, I wasn't, but I'll try it again.
Are you going to be doing a tutorial series on Dreams? I hope so, I learned to use procreate from you this way.
Thanks so much for the Super chat! I'll be doing some content coming early next year but not sure if I'll be doing a full blow course.
I’m excited for the future of this although its of course not perfect this seems like it will help a ton once updates happen. I hope they happen soon because I do wanna dive in on this app I have a lot I wanna do but I think I might wait till a couple updates come in idk.
Hey!!
I am a bit confused between pc and iPad for a storytime animation as pc supports Adobe animate and iPad supports procreate dreams so which once is better procreate dreams or Adobe animate
Thanks...
I am kind of dissapointed because I have an ipad air 3rd generation and although it was advertised to support it, it's crashed 6 times in the past 2 hours :/
I still think it has a lot of potential, though I think I'll have to come back to it once they've added more features and when I'm eventually forced to upgrade Ipads
Great review!! Thank you. So since i am a complete newbie to animation, i am actually enjoying this app. Clip Studio or after effects (free trial) were very overwhelming for me.
What i did to animate a cat wagging its tail is i drew all the layers in procreate, (with elements i wanted to move on different layers) then dragging my file over and selected “convert layers to tracks”.
So for simple movement this was nice
To extend a clip, tap and hold at the beginning or end. Use your other finger and slide left or right. You welcome! 😊
Hey, thank you for making this video! I got Procreate Dreams for Christmas and it’s really hard to use. Probably because I was so used to FlipaClip. If you want to, could you make a video comparing Procreate Dreams and FlipaClip?
Solid review, Brad. This makes me wish for a version of Procreate Dreams for the Mac, which could possibly take advantage of the increased screen real-estate.
I've been trying out the app , and I'm looking forward to people making more tutorial so I can figure out where all the tools are.
I have an older iPad pro, either the first or second generation, I've noticed that when making really quick strokes Procreate Dreams can't always pick them up I will just not draw some of the lines. I went into regular procreate and this problem didn't occur so it seems to be specific to the app. It's a pain because I've noticed I've had to draw much slower than I usually would.
One of the challenges is to rig a character. The only way I found is to place each limb in a different track and to then group the tracks to make one limb's movement dependent on the other one (eg. lower arm and upper arm). That is not as straightforward as in Toonsquid, in which one can easily create hierarchies and position pivot points etc...
If you want a brush stabilization just modify any brush in the Procreate Brush Engine and then export it to Dreams. Will keep all the settings, even the stabilization.
Thanks for a super helpful review. Pls can you let me know if we can we export the animation file as a mp4?
There isn't an undo button 😭
Nope no Undo/Redo button yet which is very frustrating during my first experience with this app🥹 But found out you can actually Undo! Just hold your 2 fingers on the screen, similarly like in Procreate. Though yea it's difficult since doing that will undo your drawings fast as you may not have full control of it...
Coming from toonsquid, i was quite hyped for procreate dreams but i must admit, most essentials features and UX is not on point for me (yet?).
Feature wise, it will be improved. no doubt about it (hundred of pages of user feedback already flooded procreate folio) but UX wise i must go back and forth between space all the time for pretty basic stuffs as mentioned in this video. The only thing that procreate does really better is quality of brushes and effects. The timeline is quite handy too but at the end of the day i don't find it that important. I would rather draw on separated projects, instead of having everything on a whole timeline. Animating let's say... 5min of animation on a single composition can be really messy on a small device such as the ipad. I prefer keeping the compositing and editing part on a computer with dedicated software that are more robust for these tasks... At the moment. I really wish i could do everything on procreate one day as efficiently.
Yeah tapping on a frame in Flipbook to add hold duration would be great! I guess the only way to do it at the moment is go back into Timeline, drag out the duration of the drawing.
Yeah right now it's a bit tedious, I'm not sure if I'm doing it wrong, but I can't just drag out a frame to adjust its duration if it has other frames after it -- I have to move those frames back before adjusting the target frame's duration. Currently it seems easier to just duplicate the target frame since that will insert frames right after the original.
Yeah there seems to be some strict UI conditions on how you can edit a frame huh, no ripple-editing in there yet.@@Nightmartlet
Been playing with PD for a few hours since yesterday and it feels as if they took the alpha version of Procreate and added an animation suite on top of it, rather than building off of the current version of Procreate. So many QoL features and other settings are missing in Dreams, it doesn't make any sense (Ex: No "tap pen" to swap tools). I understand that we can import from Procreate to Dreams, but the amount of time that takes will add up and it becomes a chore very quickly. I really don't think there is any excuse for the Paint & Draw portion of Dreams to be so lackluster in features.
Thanks Brad! I"m definitely getting this. If it makes animating as easy as Procreate made drawing then it's totally worth it.
Things you need to know before.
Drawing mode is not as polished as Procreate's. But, features are being worked on per website.
@@dplj4428 After watching this video I found your other video on ToonSquid and ended up buying that instead!
I’ll probably get Dreams eventually but after they make some improvements.
Could we have a tutorial for the lip sync you mentioned? Also, not sure if you use after effects. What do you think about this app vs after effects? Adobe is having 50% off now and I'm contemplating to get it! but i'm not sure if i want to invest time on two different systems. thank you!
I'm disappointed in how many basics they left out, no selection tools, no hold to draw a smooth shape, no double tap to switch to eraser, you cant turn off hold to color pick, and lot of common animation functions are hidden. For me this release is a mess and far from being worth the 20 dollars I spent on it. This feels very beta or alpha release, its not ready.