Way different now compared to when I raced LMSC in the mid-late 90's. Engines were all custom with 6.250" rods, cast iron bowtie heads, performer intake with a 350cfm 2 barrel. A very good hp number was 358.
Damn 3k laps before a refresh is a lot better than I thought it would be. Thanks for all the cost breakdown videos you've done. It's hard even finding an rough estimate around the internet and it's fun seeing how you guys make it happen every week! Give em hell this weekend!
I love the cost videos because it’s extremely educational just learning the ins and outs of what it’s takes for y’all to get a car on the track. Then again, I just enjoy the videos you put out 🤷♂️😂
Enjoyed the information in this one. I'm defiantly interested in a video going over the differences in the two. Thanks for all the hard work you put into the videos!
I spent $9k on a used(rebuilt) bored out 602 crate. Including accessories and flywheel/clutch for my weekly racing modified(see profile pic). You did alright I'd say.
Awesome video man, very informative! Us gearheads love this kind of shit😂also a video explaining the differences between a LMSC and a limited would be awesome, awesome vid man!🤘🏻
Looks like a super T10, as for the transmission, aluminum case and very sought after for early to mid 60's Corvette's, probably around $1500.00 on today's market for muscle car parts, Thank's for sharing man!! Very informative 👍
Is that the same Rayvon Clark that used used to run dirt late models at 311 Speedway (Madison, NC) and Log Cabin Speedway (Rocky Mount, Va) in the late 80’s and 90’s? Haven’t heard that name in many years! He was from Riedsville.
As I'm looking into buying a late model car for my local NY track, I'd be interested in a video breaking down the difference between the 2 and a run-through of your limited late model. Thank you for info, not many people would share what you do.
Cool to see someone show the behind the scenes info. for people who are not familiar with what you guys are running. Landon, for the people who might be wondering, what if anything different can you do to your weekly ride versus a CARS Tour car as far as equipment and any rules that are different? Just one example: If the cars tour group was gonna run twins at Hickory, would the 20 lap tire rule apply like it does to the weekly group? Can you do anything different to the chassis etc? See you Saturday!
Loved the video. Back in my racing days (mid 80s) our engine would be a 4 bolt main stock block. Forged pistons, rods and crank. Motor noted 30 over for a total Cid of 355. Dart aluminum heads crane cam and edelbrock intake. We also had a 650cfm limit. Total cost, parts and machining would be around $6,500 bucks. I real engine professional build and dyno tuned was around 12k.
You sound like you have your budget under control. Its easy to spend up big. I have built many race cars using your method. Be good to see a comparison between the cost for both cars. Have a good run this weekend.
Where did the hair go bubba lol?? Anyways, thank you for an informative video. This helps people understand the costs that go into this sport. Kickass this weekend bub!!
@Landon Huffman I thought you had just brushed it back lol. The hair added to the persona that is The Claremont Kid. Just kidding bub, I really hope you give them boys hell this weekend. You're a helluva wheelman.
Since you’re gonna be around the CARS Tour anyway, maybe a quick differences video between the LMSC and the pro late model? Especially since the pro and super are the same chassis just different engines. All your videos are great, so keep it up!
I like these videos, I always wonder how much your stuff costs compared to our road race stuff. Is there a Mopar option for you guys? Just curious I'm a bow tie man ;-)
Well it is way less than the spec engines they use now in the USMTS series which I believe are around $25,000.00 to $30,000.00. Now the Nascar B mods are around $14,000.00 to $15,000.00. Which I believe the lap count is 1200 to 1300 laps for either one. (Of course, racing on dirt the engine builders don't want the laps going much past that lap of 1200 to 1300 laps)
Yeah some these asphalt guys heads would explode if they knew what we’re spending on top level dirt engines. Heck we’re spending more on engines for classes considered beginner classes than they’re spending on engines for there top level classes apparently ( for those that don’t know for a competitive dirt latemodel engine you’re spending as much to refresh it every 1250-1500 laps as he has in his entire engine)
Yup. I do my own engine work on my b mod and it's a little disheartening knowing you're going up against guys who are spending 15k plus on a motor. Even a new 602 crate is going for North of 6k these days. If more people worked on their own stuff instead of just spending more money the sport would be better for it
If you do a video on the crate motor cost, include what it costs to buy from GM plus what it costs to have it Blue printed by an Authorized Engine Builder
Hey Landon quick question about the triple disc clutch setup.. I recently installed a triple disc on our prolate model and followed the instructions to the letter but when we fired it up we keep getting a knocking sound inside the Belllhousing..any ideas? Love the content
This is cool! You get motors two mile from our house! The wife and me still plan on buying you a beer after a race. Assuming you are heading back to the bar in Claremont. All the videos like this are great. I'm sure not many fans understand cost, time and effort you guys invest on your cars. Thanks as always Landon!
what kind of exhaust/muffler setup do you guys run down there? You east coast guys have a very high pitched exhaust sound compared to the west coast of being low & beefy
@@broersmaracing8295 uhm the car in the video is 500lbs+ heavier than a ump mod which top cars are hitting 800hp+ now and 700lbs+ on a dirt latemodel which are making 900hp+ now But asphalt are still on suspension technology stuff that hasn’t been competitive on top level of dirt for 15-20yrs (dead serious)
What’s your suggestions to someone wanting to help out on a team doing anything that is needed when they move to the Hickory area from Iowa at the end of May? Thank you!
I actually just bought myself a late model race car and I'm going to make it look like Dale senior's race car And I'm going to race it at Langley Speedway.
You forgot a few things including headers, y-pipe, muffler and motor mounts (offset, straight up, etc). Headers are a big deal, depending on ride height rule (does exhaust count to ride height), above bellhousing crossover (looks like yours are not) or straight back, with lower crossover, etc. Headers sizing is another big rule issue, I.e; 1 ⅝ or step headers 1 ⅝ stepped to 1 ¾ or 1 ¾ complete , or if Tri-Y legal or not.
What sucks is the outlay for the price of the car engine and everything you need to go racing is a lot of money for what you get paid by your track you race at
engines seem to be the prohibitive factor in running...if you are handy enough, you can take an older chassis and run with it but the cost of an engine kills it
Ready for some North wilkesboro speedway. And my bf ask plz plz if you know anyone in the Allison legacy series tell them get date at north wilkesboro 😊
A LMSC/LLM comparison video would be great. I enjoy the shop videos, because they remind me of working on my family’s LMSC.
I’ll try to get one out next week!
Way different now compared to when I raced LMSC in the mid-late 90's. Engines were all custom with 6.250" rods, cast iron bowtie heads, performer intake with a 350cfm 2 barrel. A very good hp number was 358.
Got about 500hp nowadays.
Damn 3k laps before a refresh is a lot better than I thought it would be. Thanks for all the cost breakdown videos you've done. It's hard even finding an rough estimate around the internet and it's fun seeing how you guys make it happen every week! Give em hell this weekend!
I love the cost videos because it’s extremely educational just learning the ins and outs of what it’s takes for y’all to get a car on the track. Then again, I just enjoy the videos you put out 🤷♂️😂
Enjoyed the information in this one. I'm defiantly interested in a video going over the differences in the two. Thanks for all the hard work you put into the videos!
No problem man! Thanks for the support!
Yes please on the LMSC vs. limited! Love the all the shop videos. Wish my race shop was that big and organized😂
Dude it isn’t organized, we just hide it well 😂😂
@@LandonHuffmanRacing Race shop 101😂
Yes absolutely love to know the difference between the limited and the late models
Great video as always. Definitely look forward to a comparison video.
I spent $9k on a used(rebuilt) bored out 602 crate. Including accessories and flywheel/clutch for my weekly racing modified(see profile pic). You did alright I'd say.
602s have been increasingly popular here lately!
Definitely appreciate the cost videos. Cool getting some detailed look at the engine too. Good stuff
Good luck this weekend buddy!!….we’ll be watching and pullin for ya on FloRacing…kick some ass 👊🏼🏁
Love your stuff man
this was a very informative video, really enjoyed it
Thanks man!
Thanks for the insight! Yes, please do a video comparing your LMSC vs your LLM.
Awesome video man, very informative! Us gearheads love this kind of shit😂also a video explaining the differences between a LMSC and a limited would be awesome, awesome vid man!🤘🏻
I’ll do that next week🤘🏻
Yes please do the limited breakdown and differences. Thank You Landon
I would love to know the difference between the late model stock and the limited late model
Do the comparisons that would be interesting 🏁
Awesome content/info! Good luck this weekend!
Thanks man!
You have to pay to play and you have done a great job keeping operating cost reasonable. Solid information !
Informative vid bud, nice.
Motorsport, such a cheap endeavour.
Comparison vid would be cool.
GL this weekend.
Definitely worth a watch, A Comparison would be cool , Your engine for sure sounds bad ass. Thanks for the info stay safe and charge on.
Thanks Kevin!
Cool stuff...glad I found this channel
Looks like a super T10, as for the transmission, aluminum case and very sought after for early to mid 60's Corvette's, probably around $1500.00 on today's market for muscle car parts, Thank's for sharing man!! Very informative 👍
No problem dude!
Is that the same Rayvon Clark that used used to run dirt late models at 311 Speedway (Madison, NC) and Log Cabin Speedway (Rocky Mount, Va) in the late 80’s and 90’s? Haven’t heard that name in many years! He was from Riedsville.
yep, love to see a video with a LMSC/LLM comparison.
Sweet🤘🏻
Great video Landon
As I'm looking into buying a late model car for my local NY track, I'd be interested in a video breaking down the difference between the 2 and a run-through of your limited late model. Thank you for info, not many people would share what you do.
Cool to see someone show the behind the scenes info. for people who are not familiar with what you guys are running.
Landon, for the people who might be wondering, what if anything different can you do to your weekly ride versus a CARS Tour car as far as equipment and any rules that are different? Just one example: If the cars tour group was gonna run twins at Hickory, would the 20 lap tire rule apply like it does to the weekly group? Can you do anything different to the chassis etc?
See you Saturday!
Please make a video showing the differences between the cars!
Loved the video. Back in my racing days (mid 80s) our engine would be a 4 bolt main stock block. Forged pistons, rods and crank. Motor noted 30 over for a total Cid of 355. Dart aluminum heads crane cam and edelbrock intake. We also had a 650cfm limit. Total cost, parts and machining would be around $6,500 bucks. I real engine professional build and dyno tuned was around 12k.
Man times have changed
When I hit the lottery I'll get back into it. I raced a Limited Late Model back in the 1980s. A great time in my life.
When will you need to refresh this motor? Yes, please talk more about the limited late model.
Great video. My hero, Jack Tant is was the man in my day. Great guy,
Thanks Warren!
Your High Rock sponsor will be in the stands. Let do it for Dale JR. Love you bro. Hope you're ducks line up in a row this weekend. Good luck man
Thanks dude! Gonna give it all we got!
Harrington’s built the big block Chevy in my street/strip bracket car. Their attention to detail and workmanship is excellent.
Enjoy your videos Landon good luck this weekend you should come up to south Boston and race sometime
I'd be interested in a llm video. Just bought one. Brand new to this kind of racing.
Keep up the great content... 🍻🍻🍻
You sound like you have your budget under control. Its easy to spend up big. I have built many race cars using your method. Be good to see a comparison between the cost for both cars. Have a good run this weekend.
That was very interesting. Well done. Good luck this weekend.
Thanks dude!
Dude your high rock commercial is cool man good job
Great info on the cost of the motor. Go get that checkered flag Landon.
Best of luck this weekend!
Where did the hair go bubba lol?? Anyways, thank you for an informative video. This helps people understand the costs that go into this sport. Kickass this weekend bub!!
Hair been gone!
@Landon Huffman I thought you had just brushed it back lol. The hair added to the persona that is The Claremont Kid. Just kidding bub, I really hope you give them boys hell this weekend. You're a helluva wheelman.
Yes that would be great to know the difference between the 2
Since you’re gonna be around the CARS Tour anyway, maybe a quick differences video between the LMSC and the pro late model? Especially since the pro and super are the same chassis just different engines.
All your videos are great, so keep it up!
I’ve done one of those before!!
Good luck in the CARS Tour race!
Enjoyed the video. Want to hear more.
Heck yeah thank for watching!
A comparison video between late model and limited would be great. Good luck this weekend.
Thanks man!
GL buddy
Thanks JD!
Good luck at the tour this weekend.
Thanks buddy!
Great video. Would love to see the video on differences of a stock vs limited.
Another question tho. What fuels do you run in the race cars?
Sunoco! I’m not sure what the octane is
@@LandonHuffmanRacing is that like a leaded race gas?
I like these videos, I always wonder how much your stuff costs compared to our road race stuff. Is there a Mopar option for you guys? Just curious I'm a bow tie man ;-)
Please make a video about the different cars. I think it would be cool to see the differences between lmsc and a limited.
I’ll do it!
Go gettem Landon
This is all good info. I am going to start a massive late-model team when I win the mega millions.
Hire me when you do 😂
@@LandonHuffmanRacing Don’t worry, I got you! You will be the future CARS Tour Champion in no time. Now, just to get those lucky numbers..
i hear you hitting rev limiter, how hard is that on valve springs and how often do you change them? love your channel
Not to terribly hard! Usually once or twice a season
Video to compare motors? Pfft Im In man. Post It and Ill get to watching It as soon as I can.
Hell yeah will do!
Well it is way less than the spec engines they use now in the USMTS series which I believe are around $25,000.00 to $30,000.00. Now the Nascar B mods are around $14,000.00 to $15,000.00. Which I believe the lap count is 1200 to 1300 laps for either one. (Of course, racing on dirt the engine builders don't want the laps going much past that lap of 1200 to 1300 laps)
Yeah some these asphalt guys heads would explode if they knew what we’re spending on top level dirt engines. Heck we’re spending more on engines for classes considered beginner classes than they’re spending on engines for there top level classes apparently
( for those that don’t know for a competitive dirt latemodel engine you’re spending as much to refresh it every 1250-1500 laps as he has in his entire engine)
Yup. I do my own engine work on my b mod and it's a little disheartening knowing you're going up against guys who are spending 15k plus on a motor. Even a new 602 crate is going for North of 6k these days. If more people worked on their own stuff instead of just spending more money the sport would be better for it
A LMSC/LLM comparison video would be great.
If you do a video on the crate motor cost, include what it costs to buy from GM plus what it costs to have it Blue printed by an Authorized Engine Builder
I paid $5600 for my crate completely fresh. No flywheel and back half, with pulleys, water pump and fuel pump
Hey Landon quick question about the triple disc clutch setup.. I recently installed a triple disc on our prolate model and followed the instructions to the letter but when we fired it up we keep getting a knocking sound inside the Belllhousing..any ideas? Love the content
This is cool! You get motors two mile from our house! The wife and me still plan on buying you a beer after a race. Assuming you are heading back to the bar in Claremont. All the videos like this are great. I'm sure not many fans understand cost, time and effort you guys invest on your cars. Thanks as always Landon!
Thanks Bobby! Cold beer is good beer!
what kind of exhaust/muffler setup do you guys run down there? You east coast guys have a very high pitched exhaust sound compared to the west coast of being low & beefy
Yes, please!
Whered you get the AN style water neck? thats friggin sweet!
Do the breakdown of both… great reference points..
Please make that video describing the differences between the two classes. I have NO idea!!
Come on over to the Nashville fairgrounds and see how it goes
Kinda surprise when you said 500HP kinda thought you all would of had more than that for some reason. Good luck this weekend!
Its asphalt cars are super light gotta get it to ground without spinning the tires unlike dirt
500 is a lot for this type of racecar and drivetrain!
@@broersmaracing8295 uhm the car in the video is 500lbs+ heavier than a ump mod which top cars are hitting 800hp+ now and 700lbs+ on a dirt latemodel which are making 900hp+ now
But asphalt are still on suspension technology stuff that hasn’t been competitive on top level of dirt for 15-20yrs (dead serious)
Good stuff
Thanks Sam!
You forgot the case of brake clean and blue paper towels...
The little stuff adds up to be the most expensive part.
The comparison video would be a good idea.
I can do it!
What’s your suggestions to someone wanting to help out on a team doing anything that is needed when they move to the Hickory area from Iowa at the end of May?
Thank you!
Go to the track one week and hang out around the pit area! Talk to as many as you can!
Thank you for the response. I’ll definitely try that out when I get down there. Good luck this weekend!
Sorry so late worked a double,, but what is start time tomorrow??? Thank you for the reply…
I actually just bought myself a late model race car and I'm going to make it look like Dale senior's race car And I'm going to race it at Langley Speedway.
You forgot a few things including headers, y-pipe, muffler and motor mounts (offset, straight up, etc).
Headers are a big deal, depending on ride height rule (does exhaust count to ride height), above bellhousing crossover (looks like yours are not) or straight back, with lower crossover, etc. Headers sizing is another big rule issue, I.e; 1 ⅝ or step headers 1 ⅝ stepped to 1 ¾ or 1 ¾ complete , or if Tri-Y legal or not.
Yes please, our local track runs LMS and limited
A yearly budget and weekly budget would be cool.
Yes I want video between limited and late
Where do u get the leg rests on the seat ?? I need me a set
Money buys speed!
Will you have shirts and hats for sale at hickory for the tour race?
We will have shirts!
How did you compare against Dale Jr in the practice
Landon. What motor package does Carson and Jr motorsports run?
Enforcer
You should contact Dale Shaw Race Cars in Center Conway New Hampshire
I thought about 15,500so I was pretty close. You got a good deal for 17,000 motor and transmission etc.
Would like to hear the difference between late model and limited late model
What kind of oil filter do you use?
Would like to see comparisons
Will do!
What sucks is the outlay for the price of the car engine and everything you need to go racing is a lot of money for what you get paid by your track you race at
engines seem to be the prohibitive factor in running...if you are handy enough, you can take an older chassis and run with it but the cost of an engine kills it
What does the number 604 mean. Not the cubic inch or horse power? Is it the deck height?
It's the last 3 digits of the part # from GM.
Ready for some North wilkesboro speedway. And my bf ask plz plz if you know anyone in the Allison legacy series tell them get date at north wilkesboro 😊
Id love to drive one of those Legacy cars!
what about hauler?
He'll yes do it please!
Will do!
@@LandonHuffmanRacing that's awesome 👌
Please show the difference between the 2 cars
What is your tire bill for a typical weekend?
One set which is around $840
So the top 2 division at my local track run 602 in super stock and 604 in pro late
Nice