Can MRI scans screen men for prostate cancer? - BBC News

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2023
  • A 10-minute MRI scan could be used to screen men for prostate cancer, according to a new study.
    The scans proved far more accurate at diagnosing cancer than blood tests, which look for high levels of a protein called PSA.
    MRI picked up some serious cancers that would have been missed by PSA alone.
    At present there is no national screening programme in the UK because PSA is considered too unreliable, although men over 50 can request a PSA test.
    The authors of this new study suggest that prostate MRI could be used for screening, though they say a larger study would be needed to assess this.
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Komentáře • 90

  • @itsjohndell
    @itsjohndell Před 9 měsíci +6

    We have a different problem in the US, we have the machines but health insurance won't pay for MRI in cancer detection and scan can be frightfully expensive out of pocket. The current PSA test has only a 50% or less accuracy. Because of my acute family history I was closely screened and mine was caught very early and successfully treated by radiation. But it can recur. The good thing is that radiology companies can't afford to have the machine sitting idle so out of pocket is coming down. My problem is i can't do closed MRI.

  • @theflyingfool
    @theflyingfool Před 9 měsíci +19

    This is really old news. We've known for nearly 30yrs that MRI is the gold standard in prostate cancer diagnosis. Trouble is that MRI scanners aren't cheap & the NHS can't afford lots of them. Everyone wants a slice of them for their own speciality, so us old blokes get shoved to the back of the queue because we aren't a priority. It's vital that if you are being seen for suspected prostate cancer you insist that you get an MRI instead of a PSA.

    • @rivergladesgardenrailroad8834
      @rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Didn't know that....

    • @ncbluegrassevents1984
      @ncbluegrassevents1984 Před 5 měsíci +2

      $1614 for our MRI payment… insurance only paying $400 after we spend $6500 a year for insurance. Thanks Obama… worst insurance we have ever had since Obama.

    • @TravisMcGee151
      @TravisMcGee151 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ncbluegrassevents1984Be glad you had some affordable insurance.

  • @JillWhitcomb1966
    @JillWhitcomb1966 Před 9 měsíci +3

    This is a current storyline on the BBC soap opera 'EastEnders'. The character of Alfie Moon is getting screened for prostate cancer with an MRI.

  • @connoroleary591
    @connoroleary591 Před 25 dny

    Very good reporting. Concise, correct and good interviewees.
    And of course, one of the best BBC reporter's.

  • @Freedom24560
    @Freedom24560 Před měsícem

    I've heard that a psma Pet Scan is even more definitive. May be worth a look.

  • @tedtedtedtedted
    @tedtedtedtedted Před 9 měsíci +4

    an incredibly rare story from the bbc about mens' health, but still no acknowledgement of the gender mortality gap scandal

  • @vhol93
    @vhol93 Před 9 měsíci +1

    02:52 Super cool and kind idea

  • @LorenIpsum75
    @LorenIpsum75 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Wish there was an MRI for mammograms instead of being squished between those two plates of glass.

    • @missrockafella9432
      @missrockafella9432 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I saw an episode of Doc Martin where a woman consulted the Dr about a breast lump and he gave her an ultrasound scan in his surgery which showed there was no cancer. I have just a moment ago Googled if MRI scans can detect breast cancer and they certainly CAN including lumps which can be missed on mammograms. Certainly makes one wonder doesn't it? Also there is another form of breast cancer screening called thermography which doesn't put the woman at risk (unlike mammography where women are put at higher risk of developing cancer) and is also pain free. In the mainstream media one only hears about the mammography. I often wonder whether the health service has a certain agenda we women don't know about.

    • @jacksonueland
      @jacksonueland Před 3 měsíci +1

      MRI Tech here... There is Breast MRI for diagnosing cancer, it also involves very uncomfortable positions, is three-times as long and requires an IV

  • @marysimanli5584
    @marysimanli5584 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Problem is, is there enough mri machine and mri tech to screen, as the wait list for mri is quite long

    • @danielwhyatt3278
      @danielwhyatt3278 Před 9 měsíci

      We neeeed to be building more of them. This has been needed for soooo many years it’s insane and makes NO SENSE. Just expand the business and build mooore of them already. 😓 THEY’VE HAD ENOUGH TIME.

    • @plutonium_pharaoh
      @plutonium_pharaoh Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@danielwhyatt3278it's not only about making more mri scanner but the problem is also maintaining them. Mri requires huge amount of helium which is currently very high in cost

  • @skip123davis
    @skip123davis Před 9 měsíci +10

    bullshit. i had prostate cancer a year ago (61) and had an mri. nothing showed up until the biopsy.

    • @johnley8168
      @johnley8168 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Same here. Had high PSA. Had MRI. Negative. Had biopsy. Showed cancer.

    • @skip123davis
      @skip123davis Před 9 měsíci

      @@johnley8168 see?1!

    • @danielwhyatt3278
      @danielwhyatt3278 Před 9 měsíci

      There will definitely have to be cross-analysis of these kinds of results here then. After all, they said sadly that this policy could take 10 years to implement.

    • @tanvir6356
      @tanvir6356 Před 9 měsíci +2

      And then, what would you tell the guy highlighted in the story? With a negative PSA and positive MRI? Probably best to calm down, no one is taking away the PSA test

  • @VNV67
    @VNV67 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I wish that my dad and I had this option. He is gone and I am waiting.

  • @stitcheruk1150
    @stitcheruk1150 Před 7 měsíci +4

    In the UK you can request a PSA test from your doctor - I did in 09/2022 due to starting to wake up in the night to pass urine - which was a new event for me. The doctor advised that a PSA test was unnecessary and to come back if anything changed. Nothing changed, however in 09/23 I requested a ‘Health check’ at the surgery without speaking to the doctor. At this check, which involves blood tests, I specifically requested a PSA test. This came back with a reading of 310 and I was subsequently advised by Oncology at the hospital that I have prostrate cancer that has metastasised throughout my bones. To anyone reading this - DON’T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER.

    • @blessings6809
      @blessings6809 Před 4 měsíci

      Are you being treated? And how is it going

    • @stitcheruk1150
      @stitcheruk1150 Před 4 měsíci

      @@blessings6809 Yes - just started chemotherapy along with a second generation drug called NUBEQA ( Darolutamide )

    • @connoroleary591
      @connoroleary591 Před 25 dny

      That is so tragic. I hope you get the best treatment and survive this cancer journey.
      Best wishes.

  • @alenaalena13
    @alenaalena13 Před 8 měsíci +3

    This seems like ancient history. How does the PSA identify cancer? It identifies high levels of something. MRI surely is the next step after a high PSA.

    • @TheTraveller20081
      @TheTraveller20081 Před 8 měsíci

      You've missed the point. The PSA test is unreliable as it missed 50% of the cancers that the MRI trial detected. MRI is needed as the screening process, waiting til PSA says you have cancer is pointless.

  • @r8chlletters
    @r8chlletters Před 9 měsíci +6

    They can certainly screen for abdominal tumors in women….

    • @Susieq26754
      @Susieq26754 Před 2 měsíci

      But insurance won't pay for a scan with contrast. So why get exposed if the tech can't read it.

  • @TheMoggiemum
    @TheMoggiemum Před 9 měsíci +7

    Whether this would be a good diagnostic tool is a bit of a moot point... England doesn't have enough mri machines for the current workload!

    • @danielwhyatt3278
      @danielwhyatt3278 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Which is exactly why I’m so suspicious as to why there aren’t more of them. There should be thousands being made every year, yet for some reason we only seem to ever have as many as we’ve ever had. It doesn’t seem to make any sense when the demand for them is always increasing around the world. It definitely feels like some sort of a supply and demand thing.

  • @SyYoung-ni1wl
    @SyYoung-ni1wl Před 9 měsíci +1

    OT: Benny Hill considered funnier than Monty Python by two TV stations--WOR and WLVI.

  • @JimmyTimmy-wh8dz
    @JimmyTimmy-wh8dz Před 9 měsíci +2

    You bet they can detect cancer..probably before you even knew or suspected

  • @cccxm02
    @cccxm02 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The problem in England is that some GPs don't listen to the patients especially MEN they miss the signs & hence a poor outcome!
    I went to my GP in 2011 when I was 49 stating "It started 2 days ago I'm getting up 16 times per night peeing"
    I don't drink or smoke,fast forward to
    2019 eight years passed I'm 10st my GP says I'm healthy,I push and push he does a PSA test.
    My GP calls me back he's BRIGHT RED in color to tell me I have stage 3 advnced prostate cancer!
    That's how stupid my GP was in my diagnosis 8 years went by me going backwards and forwards to him & the hospital yet NONE joined the dots up of all my symptoms of weight loss sweating at night getting up peeing 16 times per night!
    I had to move surgery because this incompetent GP has virtually killed me my prostate cancer is really AGGRESSIVE!
    It's going to kill me and there is nothing anyone can do about it that's the sad fact of my interactions with the NHS regarding my prostate cancer!👊

    • @stitcheruk1150
      @stitcheruk1150 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Just posted my situation in UK - getting up in the night - my doctor (female) wouldn’t do a PSA a in 09/2022 - said it was unnecessary. In 09/2023 I have a PSA of 310 and metastasised cancer throughout my skeleton. WHAT TREATMENT ARE YOU HAVING ?

  • @jjcrazi
    @jjcrazi Před 9 měsíci +1

    Errol you star!

  • @Thrillbo341
    @Thrillbo341 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What the queue for a mri these day? 2 - 3 years perhaps?

    • @connoroleary591
      @connoroleary591 Před 25 dny

      I was offered an MRI scan one day after visiting the Urologist in the UK. I was very impressed with the professionalism and speed.

  • @rivergladesgardenrailroad8834
    @rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Very interesting, and surely the way to go. My prostrate is enlarged, and will probably need to be 'scraped' soonish, but my PSA levels are normal. Whether the prostrate has malignant cells we don't know, so a MRI should help.

    • @HOXHOXHOX
      @HOXHOXHOX Před 9 měsíci

      It's called prostate. Not prostrate.

    • @JA-gz6cj
      @JA-gz6cj Před 9 měsíci

      @@HOXHOXHOX its prostrate in olde english

    • @HOXHOXHOX
      @HOXHOXHOX Před 9 měsíci

      @@JA-gz6cj get with the times girlfriend.

    • @JA-gz6cj
      @JA-gz6cj Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@HOXHOXHOX​study your history grammar nazi

  • @Its_just_me_again
    @Its_just_me_again Před měsícem

    well done bbc, cutting edge tech reporting only a couple of decades late - perhaps you can report the emergence of this new tech they have called; the internet?

  • @lorddavidlawrence
    @lorddavidlawrence Před 9 měsíci +3

    There is **no national screening programme for prostate cancer in the UK**, while there is a **national breast screening programme** that offers mammograms to women aged 50 to 71 every 3 years.
    The funding for breast cancer screening equipment has been increased in recent years, with an extra £200 million in 2019 and an additional £10 million in 2023 to replace, refurbish and upgrade breast screening imaging and assessment equipment. The funding for prostate cancer screening equipment is not clear, but some research suggests that MRI scans could reduce prostate cancer deaths significantly and could be implemented as a screening tool within the next 5 to 10 years.
    Source: Conversation with Bing, 22/08/2023

    • @missrockafella9432
      @missrockafella9432 Před 9 měsíci

      Apparently MRI is very effective at detecting breast cancer as well as prostate cancer so why women aren't being offered the scans instead of painful and risky mammograms.

  • @scoops0406
    @scoops0406 Před 9 měsíci +1

    It's all well and good all these men who go on TV opining us to get our prostates checked. How pray tell? Go to you GP (if you can get to see them) and ask for a PSA test? You'll be told unless you have symptoms not to have one, there is no chance they'll send you for a precautionary MRI, you might if you are lucky persuade them to give you a referral for a private MRI, which of course is too expensive for many.

  • @mexicandream8027
    @mexicandream8027 Před 9 měsíci

    They should work on reducing loud sound which is sometime suffocating. Receltly, I had to be inside the MRI for 5times as I have brain tumor. And it is affordable for rich people.

  • @horaciokanashiro-hv2zn
    @horaciokanashiro-hv2zn Před 9 měsíci +1

  • @misskhanitthakumrong3901
    @misskhanitthakumrong3901 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hello 🍀🌹

  • @user-hm7nv1qg3i
    @user-hm7nv1qg3i Před 9 měsíci +1

    Traiganle 500 mas, y se cura rapido.

  • @DarrenYoung-vt9ic
    @DarrenYoung-vt9ic Před 16 dny

    Is 3 plus 4 bad

  • @seascape35
    @seascape35 Před 2 měsíci

    1:40: "a short 10 minute MRI scan" she says. Is she kidding? I just had a MRI scan in the U.S. after many elevated PSAs, and my prostate MRI scan was about 40 minutes with me in a claustrophobic tube that was banging the loudest noises you will hear outside of combat. Was it worth it? Yes, but let's not minimize the testing experience.

    • @JohnS-nn8si
      @JohnS-nn8si Před 2 měsíci

      Just had mri in the uk and agree 40 minutes about right. This Picked up lesions so they sent for a biopsy days after the mri. UK has got their act together on this. Also agree very claustrophobiic ask to go in feet first not so bad. My first biopsy had a Gleeson score of 3+3=6 which i believe is a good result. Just had a second biopsy to double check the first biopsy, fingers crossed nothing changed. NHS in the UK is in much shape than the detractors suggest.

    • @seascape35
      @seascape35 Před 2 měsíci

      @@JohnS-nn8si 3+3=6 is a good result. My MRI was negative so I did not need a biopsy. Best of Luck to you.

  • @rossturner8581
    @rossturner8581 Před 9 měsíci

    never going to happen! I have been getting knocked back for mri scans by nhs spinal care centres for the last 5 years

  • @ashleyfairway.540
    @ashleyfairway.540 Před 9 měsíci +4

    nothing you would not find in a society where womens health is priority.

  • @Bungle-UK
    @Bungle-UK Před 9 měsíci +5

    Men, not people pretending to be men.

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 Před 9 měsíci +10

      A real man wouldn't feel the need to say something like that

    • @lexruptor
      @lexruptor Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@hmq9052this

    • @JA-gz6cj
      @JA-gz6cj Před 9 měsíci

      girls can have prostates too

    • @Bungle-UK
      @Bungle-UK Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@JA-gz6cj only if they buy one pickled in a jar

    • @JA-gz6cj
      @JA-gz6cj Před 9 měsíci

      @@Bungle-UK you sexist pig

  • @j7ech402
    @j7ech402 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Boy Bumming Corporation

  • @pernellhaynesworth1212
    @pernellhaynesworth1212 Před 9 měsíci +2

    🙏🏼💯👑

  • @lambertois11
    @lambertois11 Před 9 měsíci +1

    In Canada, the death rate of men who are diagnosed with prostate cancer is 25%!

    • @Sam19509
      @Sam19509 Před 9 měsíci +1

      In Canada you will be waiting forever to get a government funded MRI around six months or longer because people who get admitted to the ER and diagnosed with even suspicion of something serious cut in line. I heard the wait times are worse in BC, the Atlantic and Pirarie provinces. In Quebec, the rich have easy and quick access to MRIs at private clinics because they pay for it. Some old Supreme Court ruling let’s Quebec circumvent the Federal Canada Health Act.

    • @lambertois11
      @lambertois11 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Sam19509
      You are speaking through you hat. Shame on you for propagating fake information!
      The diagnostics can be done in privately operated clinics all paid the Government Health Insurance!

  • @bell1095
    @bell1095 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Resolution of MRi is limited to cell-clusters larger than 1 Mio. This is to late for prevention.

  • @flyinghigh2701
    @flyinghigh2701 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Whats with the descriminatory title BBC? Clearly we can scan for prostate cancer in women too! Its 2023!

  • @alehanjdro1
    @alehanjdro1 Před 9 měsíci

    🙏