Pokemon Puzzle League - 1P Stadium (Super Hard) speedrun in
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2020
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Watch the former WR video at • Pokemon Puzzle League ...
Funny story, I wasn't even grinding for a world record. Just puzzle league things, I guess. /shrug
A lot of people are familiar with the puzzle league series of games, either via Panel de Pon, the original; Tetris Attack, the US Yoshi reskin of PDP for the SNES; Pokemon Puzzle League, an N64 Pokemon reskin; or Planet Puzzle League, an entirely vanilla PDP game with no stylized skin.
In the 1P Stadium mode of PPL, you fight against various characters from the anime. The way you win is by performing chain and combos to send garbage blocks to your opponents. If the opponent is topped off by garbage long enough, they die. Combos are when you match four or more blocks in a row, and chains are when blocks clear, fall, and clear again. This can happen for as long as you have blocks to sustain the chain.
The Super Hard category is the most difficult, and extremely frustrating to casual players. The AI's cursor speed is so fast that they'll basically always get to a clear on the garbage block; you basically have to grind it out and hope that the opponent eventually makes a mistake. In a casual playthrough, individual stages can last minutes.
However, speedrunners use an AI exploit in an attempt to quick-kill the opponents in under 30 seconds. The computer is programmed to go for a clear on the lowest garbage block. If they cannot find a clear, their cursor will spaz out until they die. In order to get a garbage block to fall to the bottom, we start out a chain with a four combo, then get another four combo in that chain. This will send a side-by-side pattern of two garbage blocks, with the larger chain garbage on top. Ideally, we want to send this garbage when the AI leaves an opening on either side of their screen, ideally with only one or two rows of blocks. This makes it more unlikely they won't have a clear on the small garbage block, and they'll die. The best speedrunners are able to monitor the opponent's screen while they're chaining, and then drop their chain when they see an opening. You can see this executed perfectly on many stages, but clutchly on the final two stages, Gary 2 and Mewtwo.
Another strategy we can use is go for the stop time kill. The first half AI cursor speed is not as insanely fast as the second half, and won't as often give us the opening for the traditional quick kill. In these instances, we can send the garbage as soon as the opponent raises their stack and go for the stop time kill. Stop time is an invisible timer that counts down when the screen is full of garbage. Once it counts down, they die. Stop time does not count down when blocks are clearing, or when the screen is shaking from falling garbage. Doing chains and combos extends the stop time. We can send garbage as soon as the opponent raises their stack, as this resets their stop time to the default. We can then hope they'll waste enough time looking for the clear on a small garbage block, and eventually die.
I love the Super Hard category because the best players don't have the fastest cursors or lightning fast chaining (though that certainly helps). To really excel at super hard, one must be able to play at a high level, extending chains to 15 if need be, while also monitoring the opponent's screen. Decisions must be made on the fly when to drop your chain in order to maximize the odds of getting a kill. It's all about striking at the perfect moment to catch the AI off balance. It feels a lot like sumo in this regard.
This run was utterly insane. Of course, even with the strategies we have, there is still a TON of RNG in this run. I got extremely lucky on Tracy, where he gave me enough time to top him off; Rocket, where I dropped my chain and Rocket took forever to find the clear on the garbage; and on Surge, who literally raised his stack to the top and killed himself. I'm so ecstatic at the end because these insanely lucky runs only come once in a blue moon. I wouldn't be surprised if this record isn't broken for years. Really happy to have this new WR, as it has a lot cleaner layout, and all the audio is synced!
And to everyone in the puzzle league tournament, apologies for wrecking the qualifiers board for S Hard. c: - Hry
Found out my child hood game was still a thing / speed run years later. This was absolutely nuts to watch!
Hi Tayman, I don’t know if you’ll see this but I just wanted to thank you so much for explaining how you do this in the comments so well! I just started speedrunning this category myself on twitch last week and have made SO much progress because of your video & explanation. Thank you, thank you, thank you!! ❤❤
This was INSANE! I’ve always considered myself decent at this game, but watching you play blows my mind. You think so quickly and make combos I would never see. Good stuff!
Big respect for this. Used to love this game as a kid. Great to see a community online still playing it.
This game was so meditative to me as a kid. I would just completely get in the zone, never knew how good I actually was till I saw these speed runners. Never even considered looking up speed runners for this game till barely just now. Sitting in this event with a pile of old games on the side of the room noticed a few old games and got nostalgic. So happy people even now still play it, now I gata dust off my controller an play when I get home. Thanks for the vid and the memories bro! U the best!
Really glad you're getting such a nostalgia kick out of this game! Feel free to join our Speedrunning Discord if you're interested in doing runs: discord.gg/DjjqmKqjZQ
@@maxerAA awesome! Thx, appreciate it, haven’t even picked up the game in years but I’m def gana get back into playing it. Also really liked Wario’s Woods on SNES. So fun!
Brings back memories. Good stuff my man. I miss this game
that surge kill is the funniest glitch I've ever seen in this game
Insane run 🔥🔥🔥 Cheers from Richmond VA -Aaron (Koga main)
this was literally the coolest shit ever
este juego es mi infancia, hace ya mas de 2 o 3 años que no lo juego en consola pero aun no e perdido el toque, buen video bro me gustaria competir con personas como tu pero lastima que en latinoamerica no haya personas asi como todos nosotros que juegen esta joya, si hay pero seria dificil encontrar pero la probabilidad es del 0.5%
Éste tipo es bueno pero no hubiese logrado ese record si no reiniciara mucho las partidas. Yo siempre juego con Bruno y siempre elijo a Onix xD. Llevo 15 años jugando ésta joya y hasta veo las figuras como un cubo rugby xD, tengo mucha experiencia pero es por tanto tiempo en éste videojuego. Saludos crack
Dude thank you for sharing and seeing you play. I would be honored to play against you if we ever had the opportunity to play against each other
I’d like to see competitions of Nintendo staff vs the kids/adults that, it’d be cool to see if the kids/adults can actually beat a game developer
My favorite part is when the computer just starts going up and down until u win lol
Yeah I feel like Mewtwo just gave up at the end. Why didn't he just move the blue block.
@@bodie12333 lol...I still have yet to beat super hard
Amazing!
This video makes me so happy tbh hahahaha
gratz
Holy shit dude :O
Completed S hard for a few hours ago but had to work way harder, longest took 5:35 on level 13.
With 30-40 continues in total for all 16
Is there much of a speedrun Community for this game? One of my favorite pokemon games tbh.
I gotta call cap no mewtwo the highest difficulty just folded like that
You are a god at this. By the way, is there a no-restarts category for this?
Nah, would stretch out the Speedrun and there isn't much entertainment value in waiting five minutes for the opponent to die.
Extremely impressive! Not sure if you know this but back in October 22 a new WR was set by FFRPRO21 with a time of 12:47.4. Do you plan on trying to beat it?
Lol, I'm not grinding for that.
Create and get the world record in the no resets category
I hadn’t been able to Clear Super Hard yet
Wow the computer really sucks when you turn the speed up.
So was the idea for restarting sometimes, if u can’t win within a min the battle is too difficult so u need to regenerate the AI? I ask bcuz u had a chance against Sabrina the first time
@@josephstockbridge6425 Yes, exactly right. The best chance of winning is in the opening attack, generally the process of waiting for the AI to clear the garbage and make a mistake is too long.
I've always hated that game.
If this is the world record I can 100% beat this. BRB gonna go do my first speedrun.
Lmao I see chicken wings and yugioh... no world record yet
@@VonAndHisCello You can't use emulator haha
What controller is tayman using?
Just a regular N64 controller.
What game is this? A different version of the original or like an emulator?
It's pretty much a "sequel" of Tetris Attack.
@@Diddy64wii not what he asked
@@markusballsdeep6051 ...what did he actually asked, then? I literally answered his questions.
@@Diddy64wii He's asking what version this game is. It's been released for the N64, Wii, and the Switch as far as I know. He also asked if this was played on an emulator or on a console. The answer from another comment is that this was played on an N64.
@@LetoAtreides82 Ok then. Those questions were confusing and worded kinda poorly, tbh. He should've asked "What *version* is this", not "What *game* is this". :x
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I dont get why the AI bobs the cursor up and down like that instead of lowering stack and finding a way to clear the garbage. Looks like the AI is cartoonishly bad even in "super hard" mode.
it always tries to clear the lowest block first, which causes problems if there isn't anything to clear under it.
Is this on an actual 64?
Yep!
i beat two copys of this game number 7 and number 10 and used no contiues on super hard mode
So u did lose
This is amazing! I can't even get past the first level of super hard 🥲