TigerMoth Camper Walkthrough (Everything You Need...Nothing You Don't)

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  • This unique camper is just what you need for a long weekend or weeklong trip off the beaten path. All the necesseties and nothing more. A warm comfy bed. A slide-out kitchen. Plus many other options such as ac and a rooftop tent. Plus with the overland version you can take this trailer anywhere your offroad tow vehicle can go. Fits in the garage, check! Easy to tow with most mid-size SUVs, check! There is a lot of functionality built into this small camper trailer.
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Komentáƙe • 174

  • @leehughes6211
    @leehughes6211 Pƙed rokem +14

    I bought a 2021 TigerMoth almost a year ago and have loved it. A big deal for me was that it fits inside my garage. I primarily camp by myself so will leave it in couch and table mode all the time (just sleep on the couch side), but when my 6-foot-tall son goes with me we both fit well with the bed pulled out. It is very versatile and gives you the opportunity to fit things in the way you need them. I've carried a bike inside (front wheel removed), etc. depending on the trip I was making. I bring a small pop up shower tent (or changing tent if the bed is kept pulled out for two people), a small folding toilet seat/stand, etc. and that all fits easily in the under storage (or basement as I like to call it). I keep my "food pantry" bins and IceCo fridge in my tow vehicle which is convenient to have my food with me when out sightseeing during the day. I have the air conditioner (great for hot Texas summer camping) and use a small electric heater when needed in winter (though the camper stays pretty warm without it). I've had no problems with mine and have loved the flexibility of being able to boondock off-grid as well. Great option if it fits your style of camping.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      So great to hear feedback from an owner. You painted a great visual of sleeping in it solo. I think I would do the same thing. Having your table permanent by using just the bench to sleep on is a great solution.

  • @garretlewis4103
    @garretlewis4103 Pƙed rokem +6

    An update post. We attended Overland Expo East and I talked to a Taxa rep there. I mentioned the problem of the “post” where the side door and back door meet. He said they have addressed the issue and fixed it. He said they put a bolt there. I don’t know what used to be there; nonetheless, I wanted to provide everyone with some updated information in case you are interested in one of these.

  • @scottswank
    @scottswank Pƙed rokem +6

    There's only one issue I have with the Tigermoth, having owned one for 5 years or so. The mats are too hard for most folk to sleep on. We add an exped duo pad, which stores pretty nicely in our Subaru hatch. Beyond that I'll only add that you should get a brass fitting for the jerry jug/can to replace the plastic one. Broadly, I've been very happy with the build quality. The doors, door hinges, windows, blinds, carpentry build, everything has held up really well. The biggest issue we've had is that some of the wood screws in the bottom of the kitchen drawer started to vibrate loose, so we glued them in place.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Scott I really appreciate this comment. It is the real world owner reviews that really benefit all of us. Thanks again for sharing this.

    • @Scarfacekiller
      @Scarfacekiller Pƙed rokem +1

      Totally. The mats are brutally uncomfortable. One of the things along with the slideout 'kitchen' that needs some improvements for future builds. We had one for over 4 years and made some great memories.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Unfortunately, I find many of the mats on these campers to be uncomfortable. Basically, it means most people have to buy something new to use on these after they take it out for a weekend

  • @justlookin3
    @justlookin3 Pƙed rokem +4

    I’m loving the tiger moth. The gull wing makes a huge difference in the feeling of being outside plus it means not feeling like being in a coffin as some teardrops do.

  • @Scarfacekiller
    @Scarfacekiller Pƙed rokem +8

    We owned a Tiger Moth for over 4 years and it served us well over those years. As you mentioned it's a very manual process to setup & teardown, and I know you and your family are very knowledgeable in this area. Also, unless you get their newest Overland edition, forget about boondocking for up to 7 days in their standard version without having to constantly re-up on supplies. We tested it on more than one occasion and it's more like 4 days if you pack well & are conservative with your supplies. Another positive is that it held it's value and we sold it for more than we purchased it for. The Tiger Moth was a good little transition trailer to get us out of tents & into trailers.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +3

      I love this post. Thank you for sharing this. Like you resell is one of the bonuses we have run into with small camper trailers. I used to see them as throwing your money away. Well, the high price campers anyways. Now I see them as more of an investment. Basically it’s like taking out a trailer rent free and sometimes even make money when selling them. I think another Takeaway of mine is that buying an obscure trailer might not be the best route. I find it best to buy a popular trailer because it will hold its value much better. This is something I do in Alaska with all my outdoor gear. Some of the gear I purchase is out of my budget but I know when I go to sell it I’ll get almost as much out of it as a paid.

  • @levicharles996
    @levicharles996 Pƙed rokem +1

    Bought a tigermoth back in 2014. Me and my girlfriend have loved this trailer. We have modified it slightly throughout the years to suit us. Converted to a duel battery set up, mounted a ARB fridge on tongue, a small generator on the back left step for off grid power, 270 degree awning that covers right and rear of trailer with some walls if needed. The only thing I wish it had was a fresh water tank and better cushions for the bed, those mods are coming soon though.

  • @FieldingSmith
    @FieldingSmith Pƙed rokem +5

    I think the floor plan would make a lot of sense for a solo traveler like myself, but agree with your dislikes about the cooking area. I’d really like to see more teardrop options out there designed for single people (like a bed on one side and the other converts into a table + seating area).

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Agreed. This would make a great little solo camper trailer.

  • @BirdPhish
    @BirdPhish Pƙed rokem +1

    I like the way this camper is built....the interior tracks for the lighting and slotted panels everywhere. You're exactly right about the slide out kitchen Drew...they got the water storage right but setting up that stove and awning in bad weather probably is not happening....same issue with my trailer and my fold down kitchen...not good to use in bad weather without the awning set up!

  • @garretlewis4103
    @garretlewis4103 Pƙed rokem +6

    Taxa builds some interesting campers. We seriously looked at them before we bought our square drop. If you are considering a Tiger Moth, ask about the rear corner where the side door meets the rear door. There were some issues there especially when they are taken off road.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thank you for sharing this information this will be very helpful for folks. Also you can search these trailers on CZcams you will find a number of user reviews with leak issues. Not as big of an issue because this trailer is not built with wood, but still something to consider.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      These are the type of comments that are so valuable to the community. Garret I say thanks a lot, but I really appreciate the information you share.

  • @TakeAHikeToday
    @TakeAHikeToday Pƙed rokem +9

    Your videos are always informative, entertaining and gets right to the point! Would love to see a video on the NEW Mantis 5.1 and the upgrades they have made. Keep up the great work.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +3

      I’ll try my hardest to track down a 5.1. I always appreciate a trailer that puts a focus on families. Thank you for the positive feedback I really appreciate it.

  • @alanosborne1947
    @alanosborne1947 Pƙed rokem +3

    One item the builder should consider adding is an outside accesible port/duct so a diesel heater can be used instead of a Buddy heater. I have nothing against a Buddy heater and I personally used (safely) a Big Buddy heater for years while tent camping. However they create too much moisture to be used for any type of trailer application. Hence the port for a diesel heater and my preferred diesel heater is a Lavaner diesel heater! Other than that very nicely designed rig!

  • @mrdave22
    @mrdave22 Pƙed rokem +2

    I thought the same thing about the door that makes more sense as an awning on the back. good vid, God bless

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Glad to know I’m not the only one. During the edit I thought are people going to think I’m weird for making this comment. Because basically it would mean redesigning the whole trailer. But to me it would be a great Tigermoth 2.0. God bless you Dave so great to see you on here!

  • @DIYOutdoorLife
    @DIYOutdoorLife Pƙed rokem +4

    Excellent review. We share the same likes and dislikes on this one. I laughed out loud at May's "too boy" comment. Some really smart design, although like you, the modular bed features never work for my due to the bedding/pillow storage.
    Thanks for doing what you do!

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Good to hear from you Brian. I was just watching our Bushwacker collaboration video. Makes me excited for some fall camping.

    • @DIYOutdoorLife
      @DIYOutdoorLife Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks I gotta get some new fall attire, apparently I look like Bam Margera or Cheech and Chong
 lol 😂

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      No way, those clothes are the best! I think you need to lean into them and make them part of your brand 👍😆

    • @DIYOutdoorLife
      @DIYOutdoorLife Pƙed rokem

      @@PlayingwithSticks 😂

  • @bloodpurple6953
    @bloodpurple6953 Pƙed rokem +1

    I love my Tigermoth! My wife, not so much! She has to pee in the night so wants something with a bathroom. The awning is a pain for 1 person to set up but easy with 2. Set up tight with secure tent stakes it withstood some high winds in Wyoming, so very impressive. The only thing I replaced was the plastic pour spout on the Jerry can, that thing is worthless! Installed a regular steel faucet and it works great! The bed is uncomfortable but I bought a 4” overlay memory foam mattress and sleep like a baby!

  • @jeffmatthews3798
    @jeffmatthews3798 Pƙed rokem +2

    I got away from teardrops this year because of the need for more standup room

.and this makes me want to go back. And, I like the product for price of this one. Decisions, decisions.
    My only concern with a unit with large openings/doors is cabin flex and seal integrity over time. Time will tell.
    Thank you for your very rational assessments. I look forward to every review.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      I agree with you on your point about seals. The neat thing with an aluminum or composite trailer is even if you get a leak you’re not going to have permanent damage unless it’s running onto your electrical system. Not saying there isn’t headaches with it, but it makes you feel a lot better knowing it’s not going to immensely decrease the life of your trailer.

    • @scottswank
      @scottswank Pƙed rokem +2

      The black frame is steel (apart from very early years) and our has had no issues flexing. Mind you, we slow down if a road is washboarded out.

  • @FreysOnTheSide
    @FreysOnTheSide Pƙed rokem +2

    Well done video Drew. And you were right, this trailer is way more "simple" than I had anticipated looking at the thumbnail. Your observations and recap are dead-on. I do struggle with the multi use inside design (bed to table). I would need to spend more time in these "transformers" to get a proper understanding, but seam like too much hassle. Great stuff dude! Stay safe out there. God bless you and your family.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Hi Matt! Yes the transformers always seem good in theory. But there still are some transformers that are very functional. And that would be any modular design that keeps the primary bed stationary. This with me transforming other parts of the living space such as additional beds, tables, etc. without disturbing the primary bed. The design I have in my head for my dream trailer would still have bits of transformation principles here and there. Definitely not a transformable main bed. We have one month left on the road. So we will definitely take those blessings. God bless you and your crew as well Matt!

  • @TacoUP
    @TacoUP Pƙed rokem +2

    couple of concerns with this: seems like a lot of rust on this even if its a demo trailer.
    "mounting slots" aren't a "feature" unless they are made to a standard (I.E. MOLLE, L track ect.) otherwise its just weight saving.
    200# on a roof isnt much and easily overloaded with a rooftop tent
    the LED interior lights need to be in something it looks like the adhesive is already starting to fail 6:26 in the video
    otherwise that front tongue and roof rack could be great for bikes and the load bearing fenders are awesome!
    the gullwing door is awesome!
    the mounting of the water is nice!
    The size is really great too

  • @stanbyme7874
    @stanbyme7874 Pƙed rokem +3

    Watch any video of campervans with convertible beds. Everyone always says it’s a pain to put bedding away/take out so they don’t use. It’s great they have options but I bet few will use. I agree with the pull out kitchens. Can’t stand. Back door?? With all the great ideas, no one thought to design it to cover kitchen area? Finally. Price. I will remain in my Subaru Crosstrek with ARB room until prices come down. I had order for Runaway Camper in 2020 but order fell apart due to Covid issues. I liked being able to use everything I already had (fridge, bed, etc) in my vehicle. Thank you for video & thoughts (including comments). Get out there & enjoy

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      Love this comment Stan. In great comparison with the camper bands I never even thought about that. So true! Hiker camper is very similar to runaway if you aren’t familiar with them. They are cranking out trailers really fast right now and they are about the same price as a runaway it may be a good option for you to look at. I think another really good bargain right now is the road toad by camp-inn.

    • @davidf9630
      @davidf9630 Pƙed rokem +1

      That’s the key! Get out and enjoy! I honestly believe that there are no right or wrong pieces of equipment. Use what you have, and make it work. If a Subaru cross track is what you are using AND it works
 that’s perfect.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      Sage advice here David.

  • @TerryManitoba
    @TerryManitoba Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +1

    I like the WIDE open aspect of this trailer.
    ( I HATED my truck camper for the lack of Wide Open- almost claustrophobic aspect -:)
    I love my Transit Van partially because of the HUGE sliding door a/w the swivelled passenger seat - Bliss when enjoying morning coffee!
    If I were to do a trailer - it would likely be a modifying a Cargo trailer.

  • @1cosmocat
    @1cosmocat Pƙed rokem +1

    Love all these videos of what's available now.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 Pƙed rokem +2

    Thanks for the video. I’m learning a lot about what works and what does not.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      That’s the hardest part
 figuring out what makes sense on these trailers. Basically what is needed and what is just a bonus or a waste of space. We are still trying to figure that out every new trailer we take out. We have some pretty good ideas of what makes the perfect trailer for us, but at the same time those needs have changed over the years. That’s kind of a cool thing about the trailer search, they’re definitely isn’t a one size fits all.

    • @davidf9630
      @davidf9630 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks When I built my Teardrop I thought I had everything covered. That was 5/6years ago. I have taken off doors added shelves put on some straps I make sure that I bring the right bungees for the situation. The food set up has changed about four times since then. Different grills different burners different pots and pans but the one constant, is that I take out the teardrop and use it as much as I can.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      This is so cool to read David. We can completely relate.

  • @hollymelville462
    @hollymelville462 Pƙed rokem

    "Too boy." LOL - love it. She is not wrong...

  • @hershlawfirmpc
    @hershlawfirmpc Pƙed rokem +3

    I love the form and the simplicity. But is that rust on the front storage box of a brand new trailer at 3:51?!? Wow

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      I noticed the same thing when I was editing the video. I shot the video on a really sunny day in harsh lighting so it’s hard to get a good look. I wasn’t sure if it was just red dirt from Utah where I shot the video. Agreed the form and simplicity in my opinion are up there with the best of them.

  • @ytJnC
    @ytJnC Pƙed rokem +2

    They are really cute designs. But there are some limitations. Note that he stepped outside the unit to deploy the bed. That gets old quick, particularly with two and/or bad weather. Note also that you can only sit up straight towards the back. If two people are traveling, expect to contest each other for the rear spot with more headroom during bad weather. Many owners complain of leaks, primarily near any bolts/screws. And it’s an occasional complaint with cracks in the metal corner joints due structural fatigue. It pays to join any social media forums/groups and become aware of the more frequent problems. Particularly the ones that can’t easily be fixed. Neat in appearance but i elected to go with a camper van instead.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      You are spot on with this comment. Sounds like you have done your research. Thank you so much for sharing this with the community.

    • @scottswank
      @scottswank Pƙed rokem

      You can slide out the bed from the inside, but it's a pain -- sit on the cushions up front, lean forward and pull it across with your left hand. Worth it if the weather is bad enough, but usually I open the side door. It's much easier to close the bed up into a sofa from inside however. I'm not sure why the leverage is better that direction, maybe just because you're pulling toward the center of the camper where your weight is.
      Oh, and the cracks are from the old aluminum. frame that date back several years (ours is 5 or 6 years old, just after they converted to a steel frame). So that's only an issue for an older used model. And we've had no leaks in ours, apart from the one time we closed the rear door with a strap handing down through the seal to wick in the rain.

  • @jgrant4520
    @jgrant4520 Pƙed rokem +1

    I really liked many of the features of this trailer! Thanks for featuring this and I always enjoy the comparisons to similar trailers on the market!

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thank you Brad! I appreciate the feedback. It’s always nice to know we are moving in the right direction.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      Brad thank you so much for the coffee money! It’s been iced coffee‘s from McDonald’s on the go this week. Not super glamorous, but getting us through the long drives. We also started a chain we never knew existed called cabin coffee. I think that’s what it’s called. Perfect pairing of a coffee and a cinnamon roll. I’m going to say that one was on Brad!

    • @jgrant4520
      @jgrant4520 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks HA! I am happy to hear that it you are enjoying a nice cup of coffee on me! I enjoy watching your videos on camping and want to return the favor by providing you with something to enjoy. We just tried your low water method for cleaning dishes last weekend and were very pleased with the result!

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      We love to hear this. Since that video the only change we have made is that we have one bottle that’s a mixture of water and soap. The second change is keeping hot water in a thermos all day. We throw that water on greasy pans and dishes right after we eat and by the time we wash them it comes right off.

    • @jgrant4520
      @jgrant4520 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks Thanks for the tip!! Do you add baking soda and soap when you add the hot water?

  • @Ess_Chalk
    @Ess_Chalk Pƙed rokem +2

    I love the smart design of this camper but a lot of ideas feel like they're "almost there" but they need a bit more refinement. A good example is the jerry can mount on the back - it's genius in its simplicity but water drips and spillage will probably end up running into the big open drawer. The biggest example is the fridge "compartment" on the tongue - I'd ideally want a watertight box for the fridge and a slide because I really don't like the idea of moving a 90-100 lb fridge from the camper's cab or the back of my SUV every time I want to setup camp.
    I reckon this would be the ideal camper for someone who wants most of the fundamentals sorted but still wants to do a few modifications to put their own "finishing touches" on it.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I agree on the fridge. This summer we hauled the fridge back-and-forth across camp and it just wasn’t enjoyable. I really miss a slide out fridge that stays in one spot throughout the journey.

  • @bloodpurple6953
    @bloodpurple6953 Pƙed rokem

    I also carry a portable table and if weather is bad I set up a kitchen under the gull wing door and kind of camp there until I can set up the awning.

  • @justinfowler2857
    @justinfowler2857 Pƙed rokem +2

    Well considering I'm building a house and financing anything is out of the question, I'll spare myself the price lookup. Lol. That said I agree with Drew that table beds suck.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      This one gave me a good laugh. Congratulations on the house building Justin! I bet you are so excited.

    • @justinfowler2857
      @justinfowler2857 Pƙed rokem

      @@PlayingwithSticks I will be if they ever get it done. 😬

  • @OverlandTrailer
    @OverlandTrailer Pƙed rokem +3

    A nice tidy build there. A lot of punch in a little package. No Water, Heating, and other systems is GREAT!! Cooler in the tongue (potentially in the sun) could be a minus. Plus, having the cooler separate from the Kitchen...Meh. Overall though, I like this approach and there is a lot in a small box!

    • @conniewaite1371
      @conniewaite1371 Pƙed rokem +2

      I would keep the fridge in the car or truck,grab a drink or snack while driving and refill when shopping and the camper is back at the camp spot

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +3

      I never even thought about the cooler placement. Great point. We have been hauling our cooler back-and-forth between the awning, the trailer, and the tow vehicle this summer. We are really missing having the permanent spot in the galley of the teardrop.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I have met people this summer with two coolers, one in the tow vehicle and one in the trailer. That was a first for me.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I saw your email this morning, I promise I will respond soon. We are still playing a bit of catch-up with life.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      We are. We have been here since August. But will be going back again in November. It’s been really refreshing to get back to the States.

  • @setsailatnoon
    @setsailatnoon Pƙed rokem +3

    What I like about our TCTeardrop is having a door on each side so I don’t climb over my wife to get in and out. I paid 4 grand for our 5x10 in 2011. I keep my 12volt fridge in either our Subaru or Tacoma while traveling. I do like the European windows better. I want to replace ours.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      I agree 100% on the doors! It also is beneficial in that you can add multiple side entry tents if needed. You got an amazing deal on your trailer! I had no idea TC teardrops was around back then? Crazy their boom and popularity in the last two years.

    • @setsailatnoon
      @setsailatnoon Pƙed rokem

      They are a fabulous family company.

    • @kevinlinares9060
      @kevinlinares9060 Pƙed rokem +1

      Tcteardrop was high on our list of small trailers, but once we had kids it dropped out of our list. I do wish there were more reviews on these trailers from owners as there are a lot of customizable options.

  • @Shoebutie
    @Shoebutie Pƙed rokem +2

    I like the inside/outside conversion option although the cushions that make up the bed appeared very thin. Also, in order to close the rear to sleep, you would have to put the stove away somewhere and essentially pack the kitchen back up. Price seemed high but I could be wrong about that

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      For some reason I thought you could close the back and still have the kitchen out. I never thought about that. Thank you for sharing.

    • @gurdiprooprai6453
      @gurdiprooprai6453 Pƙed rokem +2

      False. You do not need to close the kitchen in order to close the rear door to sleep. They are independent doors.

  • @kay20gators12
    @kay20gators12 Pƙed rokem

    So much info! Thanks for such an honest, detailed review.

  • @bobw9297
    @bobw9297 Pƙed rokem

    We are with you on pull out kitchens ,

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      Now there is one pull out kitchen I love. Back in the day they had a hard sided pop-up from Apache. There was a model where the slide out kitchen could also be used indoors when you slid it in. With a trailer like the tiger moth with all that ventilation it would be neat if there was a little extra room inside to cook in a pinch or during inclement weather. I’m thinking Tiger Moth meets the Cricket.

    • @bobw9297
      @bobw9297 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks That's funny, I had 1970s something Apache back in the day ,it pulled out on 3 sides and the kitchen pulled out the front .
      Best , most fun trailer I have owned...eh

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      It’s one of our favorite trailers that we have never owned. We have had the trailer purchase from underneath of us a number of times in Alaska. On our drive down to pick it up somebody swooped in and grabbed it from us. Not once but twice. We decided it was meant to be and havent searched as hard for it in recent years. But, at some point I have to get my hands on one.

  • @bucktalesoutdoors7566
    @bucktalesoutdoors7566 Pƙed rokem

    Hey Drew, yeah the slide out kitchen is not what I’m looking for in a teardrop / overlander style trailer.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Me too! I feel the same way. However, if it was like the old Apache hardsided pop-ups I would change my mind. It is a slide out that when pushed back in functions from within the interior.

  • @TwoFeatherChannel
    @TwoFeatherChannel Pƙed rokem +4

    I dislike these External Water Storage, be it Jerry Can, Life Saver or Rotopax
    every vehicle that travels on Dirt Roads, Gravel Roads, create Dust and that Dust collects mainly on the Rear of a vehicle
    and where do this companies place their external water storage? on the rear.
    that water spigot and filler cap will have to be cleaned before using

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I never would’ve considered this. Thank you for sharing. It’s so fun to read comments like this that expand our understanding about how these trailers function in the field

    • @TwoFeatherChannel
      @TwoFeatherChannel Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks yeah it makes you think, these manufacturers of "Off Road Trailers" must not be taking them off road, or they would have known this would be an issue. anyone who owns a Jeep, SUV, Van or Camper that has a rear end that is flat from Roof to Bumper will get dust circulating and collecting onto the rear end

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      Very true. We see the dust collection every trip.

  • @patrickmckowen2999
    @patrickmckowen2999 Pƙed rokem +1

    Good review 👍

  • @conniewaite1371
    @conniewaite1371 Pƙed rokem +3

    Have loved the tiger moth since it first came out.but will a porta potty fit under the lid to right of gullwing door?

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      I hope somebody chimes in here who owns the trailer. I would be interested to know as well.

  • @conniewaite1371
    @conniewaite1371 Pƙed rokem +1

    Love the explorer but it needs to be taller to stand in.room for my motorcycle!

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Yes it’s really neat for hauling toys and sleeping, but quite awkward for moving around. I tell people you either want a trailer with a low ceiling that forces you to just scoot around or a high ceiling for walking. But there is something about trailers with ceilings with an i between height that is just awkward. Even though it was larger than a teardrop at times I felt claustrophobic because I would feel my back graze against the ceiling and you have to walk around hunched. Now if the camper was smaller that height would be a non-issue, but with it being a little bit bigger it feels weird knowing you can’t walk around.

  • @tiggrr27
    @tiggrr27 Pƙed rokem +2

    Do you know if the kitchen drawer is accessible from the inside in case of inclement weather? Thanks for the great video!!

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      I’ve never seen that highlighted. I’m not going to say no, because I’m not sure.
      But I’m guessing it cannot.

  • @rtyria
    @rtyria Pƙed rokem +2

    I think for me the ceiling being so low is the deal breaker. It looks like only one person can sit up comfortably, everyone else around that table would have to lean or hunch over. My back hurts just looking at it. I don't understand why they have the roof slanted like that.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts here. We wondered the same thing about the roof. Is it purely for aesthetics or is there some functional value?

    • @scottswank
      @scottswank Pƙed rokem +1

      The sofa accommodates one person who's 6' to maybe 6'2" and another who's 5'8" to maybe 5'10". If you're both 5'10"+ it's likely a poor choice for you.

    • @rtyria
      @rtyria Pƙed rokem

      @@scottswank Thank you. I'm not 5'10", but everyone I would be camping with is.

  • @DesertPackrat
    @DesertPackrat Pƙed rokem +3

    It is amazing how hodgepodge trailers with solutions like a jerry can water stuck on the back are sold for ridiculous prices. Thanks but no thanks. I will use my car camping setup which is thousands of dollars cheaper with similar comfort.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I really appreciate the simplicity of this design, but like you the prices are really painful to see. I completely understand why you would want to stay with your car camping set up.

  • @jeremytyler7843
    @jeremytyler7843 Pƙed rokem

    I looked at that one for a purchase for half a minute, the size of the bed really turned me off. The low ceiling height was also a turn off with the table (I’m 6’5”). I also don’t care for a convertible table inside, especially on a trailer that size.

  • @LetsG0Champ
    @LetsG0Champ Pƙed rokem +1

    Looks like this would be excellent... for a family of 1.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      😂 I agree. Our family could definitely enjoy it, but I think to get the most out of this trailer one person would be in heaven. I took out an Aero teardrop across Oregon last month. I have used the table on teardrop trailers a number of times with my family I never really enjoyed the experience. Was it handy at times yes, but it was also annoying at times. This go around I had the teardrop trailer all to myself. The table was nothing but Bliss as a solo traveler. It was so easy to set up and take down with my limited gear and not having to ask people to come in and out of the trailer to do it.

    • @LetsG0Champ
      @LetsG0Champ Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks now those other ones they offer looks cool. Cricket and mantis.
      I'm just weary buying an expensive tt with tent material. Only thing that holds me back.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      We often think the cricket would be a perfect fit for our family. Unfortunately though I have never had the chance to get inside one.

    • @LetsG0Champ
      @LetsG0Champ Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks personally, I'm leaning towards a Colorado Teardrop Summit. Either Pinnacle or regular one. They're huge. And with a roof nest, we can grow into it as my kids get older. 7 and 2.
      I live 5 miles from their shop in Boulder so it would be super easy for me

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      Not only do we tell people to buy local if they can. But you’re absolutely right on the size and functionality of that trailer. We took the mount massive out as a family and it was a perfect fit.

  • @jeffphillips94
    @jeffphillips94 Pƙed rokem +2

    Camp Inn 560 , id love to hear or see your opinion / review . Have you done one ? Great channel, really like your content

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      Love hearing this request! I just shot the video of it this week at the Camp-Inn Camp-Outt in Wisconsin. Glad you are enjoying the content. I’m not 100% sure when I will get that video posted so if you were thinking of buying one in the near future just reach out to us in an email and I can answer any questions you may have.

    • @jeffphillips94
      @jeffphillips94 Pƙed rokem +1

      Very timely indeed ! I've been all over the map with teardrops since selling my FWC camper and truck . Looking forward to your review !

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +2

      Haha. Welcome to the club. This is the community of eclectic small camper enthusiasts always looking for our perfect small trailer. It’s taken many of us all over the map as well.

  • @jenniferstewarts4851
    @jenniferstewarts4851 Pƙed rokem

    I don't now, something about this one just doesn't... feel right.
    the pull out kitchen isn't accessible from inside, they should have the seat sectioned so you could pull open parts to get at kitchen supplies. i know they wanted a roof top tent, but if you are going to "sit" inside, a "pop up" roof for extra head room just makes sense.
    Its a bear bones camper... and opening up like it does seems neat but... it honestly feels like it should be made to accept a "mated tent" more then just an awning but an actual enclosed tent area with bug screen and closed off area for bad weather.

    • @jenniferstewarts4851
      @jenniferstewarts4851 Pƙed rokem

      I think the problem i have here is... its either to small or to big. It wants to be bear bones but its to big to be that... and might even have problems fitting into some garages. it wants to be "big" with a sitting area for eating, but its to small for that. lacking the head room to even really move around comfortably, In general it feels like theres nothing to gain from buying it over a tear drop or popup. the idea of adding a roof tent as family grows only goes as far as... the interior seating area doesn't change so you can't eat togeather inside in bad weather.

  • @sierramantrvlnus
    @sierramantrvlnus Pƙed rokem

    I think it has a nitch but has a few drawbacks. having to move things to get to others. And it's a fair weather camper. Table bed? naa.
    And yup I dont care for its looks... haha.

  • @dotjohnson231
    @dotjohnson231 Pƙed 21 dnem

    Nice review! Do you think you will ever feature the Taxa Cricket?

    • @dotjohnson231
      @dotjohnson231 Pƙed 21 dnem

      (I saw the Cricket) walk through but interested in your feedback from practical use)

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      I’ve been looking for one for years. This has always been one of the trailers We’ve looked closely at because it’s a great fit for our family. So yes, if I ever come across one, I will do a review for sure. Every time I attend some sort of expo Taxa seems to bring everything but the cricket.

  • @dcwaku
    @dcwaku Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    What’s most important? Price and weight.

  • @jimmyr1683
    @jimmyr1683 Pƙed rokem +1

    Ok, I have a budget of $20000. Which teardrop would you recommend that I can get with the most amenities? I live in Texas but I would drive to Colorado or wherever to pick up. Don't need to pay shipping. Thx

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      At $20K you have a lot to choose from. My favorite trailer around that price is the Bean Stock from Bean Trailer. Unfortunately though it has jumped from $18k to about $23K this year. In terms of most amenities I would say look at Hiker Trailer. They have a very affordable base model trailer and then from there you can throw on all the fun amenities.

    • @jimmyr1683
      @jimmyr1683 Pƙed rokem

      @@PlayingwithSticks I do like the Bean. I don't like the rear door of the hiker. I would like for the hatch to swing up. Give a little protection from the rain or sun. Thx for your input

    • @jimmyr1683
      @jimmyr1683 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@PlayingwithSticks I just looked at Timber leaf trailers. Very promising. Also you should check out Wander Tears in South Carolina if you ever get a chance

  • @t.o.f.t.s.
    @t.o.f.t.s. Pƙed rokem

    Gunna suck to have to walk to the front tongue to get to your fridge, than walk all the way to the back kitchen everytime. For the life of my I'll never understand why designers do that. And its not that hard to install a tank and water pump for runninging water...even 10gal. would be nice

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      Yes, the tongue fridge thing is hard for me to wrap my head around as well. Not just the walk, but also the increased tongue weight. AS for the water I get it. I am not a fan of winterizing water systems. I also am not a fan of how most trailers tow with it being the water tanks typically do not have baffles. But 10 gallons that does sound like it would relieve that issue.

  • @david_does_life
    @david_does_life Pƙed rokem +3

    I am surprised he didn't mention the kitchen sink...that Taxa rep didn't seem well prepared or knowledgeable. I like the trailer but not for 30,000$ + Canadian. It doesn't have a heater for that price or even plumbing.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      He is a really knowledgeable rep. Actually one of the most knowledgeable I have filmed. But you definitely did pick up on something there. He was really nervous in front of camera. You can see it even more in our Taxa Mantis video, but his nerves calmed down a bit more for this one. These walk-throughs can be quite taxing for the reps as it definitely brings on some strange anxiety looking into a camera. This is one of those unique campers where you’re paying more for less. It sounds very counterintuitive, but at the same time I get it. However, I think all small camper trailers in general are a bit overpriced right now. It’s painful to think a camper costs 3 to 4 times the price of my used tow vehicle.

    • @david_does_life
      @david_does_life Pƙed rokem +4

      @@PlayingwithSticks Everything shot up in price like crazy post-covid. Even campground fees are ridiculous now. It used to be ~ 30$/night for campgrounds now its like ~55$.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I think that is great advice. And so true about those CZcamsrs! 😂

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      We’ve been seeing the same trend almost every state we go to. It’s really unfortunate.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I never did. Sorry about that.

  • @Daniel-pv8jl
    @Daniel-pv8jl Pƙed rokem +1

    Almost bought one but it’s not worth the money at all. Don’t waste your money. Spent the money on a nice truck and a great used truck camper.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      Yes, these small campers aren’t always the best solution for everyone. I think they are a good fit for our family, but I could see others benefiting more from a truck and camper or a truck and topper.

  • @mydeur931
    @mydeur931 Pƙed rokem

    LOL, don t even want to know how much to fix if LEDs need replacement, what a shame

  • @bruceevans8837
    @bruceevans8837 Pƙed rokem +1

    No heat, no A/C, no hot water,4' interior height= not everything I want or need.

  • @chrisdalebout5106
    @chrisdalebout5106 Pƙed rokem +3

    The Tigar moth kitchen is bad, How are you going to cook? You can not reach the stove. đŸ€šđŸ€š

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      I think you may be seeing something I might’ve overlooked? Why do you feel the stove would be unusable?

    • @stephanieselmann5956
      @stephanieselmann5956 Pƙed rokem +1

      I agree. You'd have to reach up and over the open drawer (and risk spilling in the drawer) or you'd need to turn the stove around and run back and forth to reach other cooking necessities. If you're tall, reaching up and over may not be an issue, but if you're short you'll need someplace to pack your step-stool!
      We saw a couple of these in the PNW campgrounds this summer and ended up ruling them out. We didn't feel like they'd be great for less predictable weather near the coast or up in the mountains, or in the frequent rain this area is known for year round. Not enough space for two people and a dog if you end up socked in. It was a nope for us.

    • @jimwagner6260
      @jimwagner6260 Pƙed rokem +1

      Have you ever had greasy fish/burger splash? Ehhh. Except for that, this is a good camper

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      I never would’ve even thought of that. Good point. And yes I have experienced the splash. One of the main reasons I don’t like to cook inside my trailer.

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      We agree on the Pacific Northwest camping comment. For traveling in environments like that you wanna set up that’s simple and designed for quick changes in weather

  • @nynomadfjc3907
    @nynomadfjc3907 Pƙed rokem

    all these tigermoth videos, not one of it in action going down the trails.. maybe if I pony up and buy one I'll be the 1st to get on video getting roughty with it.

  • @chrisdalebout5106
    @chrisdalebout5106 Pƙed rokem

    It looks like you are reaching over the storage area. đŸ€”

  • @twloughlin
    @twloughlin Pƙed rokem +9

    Not a fan of this one. It just seems to me to be overly complicated for something that wants to be simple. Interior height is non-existent. It's a "habitat" - makes me feel like this is more suitable for Hobbits. Still, thanks for the review.

  • @kevin1339
    @kevin1339 Pƙed rokem +1

    Everything for short people What about us tall people

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem +1

      If you like smaller Teardrops for tall people check out the Camp-Inn 560. It’s a very small trailer, but designed with a tall person in mind. If you want a larger teardrop check out the Colorado Teardrops mount massive. And then we have a few larger small camper trailers on the channel for people 6’6 and above.

    • @eesinc.9081
      @eesinc.9081 Pƙed rokem

      I have one and at 5'3 can confirm, it is great for short people! I couldn't imagine being much taller than that 😀

    • @kevin1339
      @kevin1339 Pƙed rokem

      @@eesinc.9081 I stand 6 feet 9 inches

  • @jroe8089
    @jroe8089 Pƙed rokem

    How much??????

    • @PlayingwithSticks
      @PlayingwithSticks  Pƙed rokem

      It should be in the video. I can't remember off the top of my head unfortunately. I want to say $23K

    • @jroe8089
      @jroe8089 Pƙed rokem

      @@PlayingwithSticks 👍

  • @stevengatewood2725
    @stevengatewood2725 Pƙed rokem

    Not a fan. 200lb roof capacity, but the ability to mount a tent, even if supported, sketchy. Having to put bedding away sucks. No main cover over the food prep area. Bed/bench cushions look flimsy. Meh.

    • @jaggedtoothX
      @jaggedtoothX Pƙed rokem

      That rating is for dynamic weight not static weight and the limit probably has more to do with the Thule Rack rather than the trailer. Thule ProBars that are on the Mean Bean trailer also have a maximum load of 220lbs.

  • @paultaylor2689
    @paultaylor2689 Pƙed rokem

    Not a fan of the tiger moth ! I can get a much much much better extreme off road camper .

  • @malanalan1
    @malanalan1 Pƙed rokem

    Really poorly designed trailer. Stupid shape and it does not even have hitch receiver!