What Is The BEST 450 In 2024? | 450 Motocross Shootout
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- After logging time in recent weeks on the current crop of 2024 450 MX bikes, we coordinated one giant day of back-to-back comparison testing that involved a private track, six bikes, a dozen new Maxxis tires, seven test riders, and a whopping 17 support technicians from the manufacturers to make sure the bikes were performing their best. When the dust settled, our panel of test riders arrived at a clear-cut winner for the 2024 450 MX Bike of the Year honors. Click play to see how the machines stacked up! Special thanks to Temecula Motorsports, Maxxis tires, Motul, and OGIO Powersports for making this test possible.
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Thanks again for including me in the shoutout so a rad opportunity to ride all of the bikes!
I was pumped to see you in this video!
You’re a staple bud.
@@swapmotolive. thank you 🙏
So if you love the Yamaha so much when are you going to give up riding Hondas
@@shanemoto97these guys might be getting paid to hype up the Yamaha
Best 450 is the one that didn’t even need to show up this year we already know it’s Suzuki
😂funny
😂😂😂
Agreed i have put about 50 hours on my rmz250 since i bought it used and it still starts 1st kick
Yes i have 2021 RMZ 450 and is awsome bike....I love kickstart ❤
Unchanged and still not winning cuz ,sounds like it's well over due for a up grade to me 😂
Nice addition of Gypsy!
Gypthhhhsy
Glad see European brands setting the standard w/exception of YZ450F. We have Triumph & Ducati coming soon! Great time for MX enthusiasts. 💯
And Beta
Love listening to Pat's insights. Easily one of my favorite testers.
For all the people complaining about them not talking about this bike or that bike…the title clearly reads THE BEST BIKE so that’s the bike they talk about. If you guys are such experts and think you can do a better job, do your own comparison so we can see it!
Kenny won 20 out of 24 motos on the old gen Suzuki when it was even more "outdated" than the one now. The bike is fine and it doesnt cost $10,000. Why keep bashing it? It has its place in the sport.
Because the Yamaha was planned to win from the beginning, there is no need to talk about other bikes😂
Because you can buy any other brand used and it’s better than a suzuki
@@KICKERMAN124 0,4 hp to kawi and around 1 down to honda in the 450 class. more torque then both. wow its so down in power. people talk like 10hp down xD. 6k for that bike is insane. cant tell me a weekend warrior needs a 11k ktm and is instant faster
Wow. The Yamaha is good and is the only bike we should care about. That’s what I got from this video.
That Ogio bag lurking in the background just cracked me up
Yz for the win - I’ve ridden all of them also I wanted to ride all of them before I made my choice and I brought the 23 for a bargain !
How is she runnin? I might get one myself now that the new body has grown on me a bit. Didn't like it at first lol
@@dhprojects3296 runs amazing I got it 2nd hand - had only done 8.5 hours 10k in aus - so 6,555 in usd bargain !! So lucky and so happy with it I’m a ex bodybuilder but riden for years I had tbe 21 model and had to seat bounce all the jumps at my track I liked it but felt uncomfy in the cock pit standing up
This is just amazing - flickable - light - fun hard to say that about a 450! Just smooth not much vibration to and kinda feels like a 2 stroke
For me it would be Yamaha or KTM all the way! Both bikes have outstanding engines that will last longest w/good basic maintenance. Kawi doesn't have best components & engine isn't up to Yamie or KTM standards. #Maxima #RangerTremor
Thank you for testing at a good track like Cahuilla with real jumps unlike that speedway Glen Helen
Bruh that wasnt a shootout. You just all sat there and spoke about the blue bike 😂
The video is “Best Bike in 2024”, that’s why they only talk about the best bike in this video
pretty surprised Gypsy choose the YZ450 as his favorite considering all he talks about on his podcast is how 450's are "too powerful" these days.... Makes me wonder if all the testers kind of fed off of each other choosing the Yamaha?
I just picked up a new YZ450FX. Haven't been more stoked.
Maybe they’ll make another video of how the other bikes placed. Or maybe Yamaha is a sponsor 🤷🏼♂️
Watch the whole video, they give full averaged rankings.
Hey who put Kyle Purner in our Yamaha Ad?
Man killer review and the sound track was 💪🤘
metal + motocross = win.
SML on the money again, now the YZ is balanced and refined its hard to beat. Still want to try the Honda with 23.5 clamps and damper though.
The kawi won their shootouts for years bro
@chazzgonzalez1356 Quality of its parts holds it bk for me. You can't go wrong w/Yamaha or KTM brands. They will hold up & engines last longest for all us non-Pro riders!
@@Davido50 I’ve owned both, KTM’s take more money to get dialed, suspension stock hurts my wrists, the power is way too mellow, vibrates a lot. I wasn’t too fond of it
I Love my 24 crf450r. Bike is amazing man.
My buddy just got a 24 yz450f and my other buddy has a 24 yz250 2 stroke,
Haven’t rode the 24 yz450 yet, so not sure how it will feel compaired to my Honda, but
so far out the showroom yes the Honda is a little interesting in the front at first, but man you just can’t beat that rider triangle , the bike just feels so nice between your legs so.
iv put the forks flush on my bike since the first 2 rides and wow it feels much better, the Hondas are very responsive to small changes i noticed so it should be fun fine tuning everything but I do agree with you as i still want to get 23-24 triple clamps.
@@chazzgonzalez1356 Im still riding an 18 KX450 with Ohlins and GPR Pro damper and clamps, love that bike
Wow that was a great video 🎉🤠👍🏽 blucru baby
Suzuki should have been included. Show the cost of each bike also. Score them in categories cost, performance, chassis, handling etc. It's still a relevant bike despite it's age as it is most affordable. As with the Yam you have scored it higher because you have applied your set up development experience. Apply that same development experience to the RMZ. Wouldn't have been hard to apply some of what was learned by riding Kenny's bike.
Thanks for another great shootout. When will we be seeing the Big and Tall shootout? Asking for a friend...:)
What about the Betta 450rx ?
I'd like to see them ride it as well
Is there any other bikes tested this year
Pat is so fast. I saw him ride at LACR dude was ripping.
Buttery is carrying the shootouts on SML show fr
what setup do you run on the yz450f ? sag, fork height ?
Fork at 4mm, 105 sag
@@swapmotolive. thanks! the 4mm is it measured from the top off the fork to the triple clamp or from the bronze part off the fork ?
When are you going to add the new Beta?!? 😅
im 64 and starting to like death metal lately......so this music is ok with me Donn
Hell yeah
but i still like to listen to the 40's channel on siriusXM too.....@@baby-sharkgto4902
death metal goes good when tig welding something up......or just plain metal fab-bing
My take away: Yamaha paid more for promotion than other manufacturers.
My take away is you are a butt hurt KTM owner.
The Suzuki shuttle, Ben there.
Go the yammy 💪
I love and miss my Yamaha. I went to the KTM 350 to get a platform that’s a little bit more friendly to my arms and bum 😊
The KTM 350SXF is basically considered the best all around dirtbike made today! Plus KTM engines last longest w/good basic maintenance.
@@Davido50 I really love it too. It’s an awesome bike. Power is strong but more manageable, and it’s way easier to turn. Suspension surprised me at being pretty decent too. I have no issues with it.
I rode my buddies 350. I likethe torque of my 450. Found it easier to jump out of corners and be lazy on the 450 😆
So the old Kawi is still the better bike since it won the shootout last year?
The new kawi sounds like it’s got a banana in the muffler. If the 24 Kx450 engine is lacking without any engine changes that can only mean two things... either the new muffler has in fact a banana in it, or the air box is seriously lacking air flow.
there is a plug in the air flow so the water doesnt get in and you can get that out and the bike will get much more air
A good suggestion would be to list what the test riders ride personally so we can take that into consideration if they may have any personal bias involved that everyone has. Could list it it with their name when you first show their part of the video. Just a suggestion.
Glazing over the Yamaha is crazy
Beta and Suzuki 1 and 2 👍👍👍
No Suzuki? But 3 KTMs. Lol. Big brains over there
Did you not watch the first minute of the video??
No he didn’t… can’t fix stupid
@@trentb49I watched. Same story goes for your mom. Just because she’s a couple decades old doesn’t mean she should be completely disregarded! She is still a damn good time for the majority 😮
@@jeffmarshall_99 i know, least what I do with my mum behind closed doors doesn’t get posted online for everyone too laugh at. Enjoy being the GOAT in your Awsome sand dunes 🤡
Put Suzuki on!!
Don't get me wrong I think Suzuki have their place in the market but for yearly shootouts/reviews, everything that had be to said on them has been since the 2019 shootouts, nothing new since / nothing else to say, expect the very same results.
Please keep bringing Gypsi Tales Jase!🎉👌🏻🔥
SUZUKI
Changed 2018.....
NOT A DACADE AGO
Excellent video as the follow up to your post shootout commentary video. 👍🏻 Awesome content!
Wow someone who understands the shootout format!! 😅 In depth vids on all six bikes to follow next week
@@swapmotolive. absolutely! You guys put in a lot of production effort. Some people just don’t understand the logistics involved with getting all these people together, all bikes in the same track, at the same time, having mechanic reps for each brand, setting the sag, handlebar positions, clickers, etc… for each one of the riders, and then, to top things off. Filming each one with proper audio and visuals around the track to visually highlight what each one of the riders is emphasizing from each bike.
My hats off to you, SML! 🔥
@@swapmotolive.Great all around comparison in a quick type format. Looking fwd to indepth testing of each bike before i buy. Yamaha & KTM are def @top of my list! -Ohio
@@cme982 Indeed. 100% agreed! Great quick synopsis. -Ohio
@@Davido50 Thank you for sharing your feedback. I am currently on the fence whether to purchase a new 23' KX450SR or a 24' YZ450F.
Next time it would be very helpful to know the test rider's skill levels
They’ve always been good about including Novice through Advanced riders in their tests, and riders of varying ages too. Swap is definitely the most thorough test each year.
You have a national level Pro Rider there, A-Ray, followed by Patt Foster and Rene Garcia, then you have Kyle and Connor as your Intermediates, followed by Don and the older dude as Vets. They always do an excellent job at including different skill sets.
I swear every year there is a new engine in a bike its suddenly 1st. For example ktm won last year and now Yz and kx. That's crazy
This is the most socal shootout ever. Can we get a rut or some loam lol
Yamaha all day🤘🏾 can’t ever go wrong with that bad boy.
Cramming tech into bikes that 90% of riders don’t need, I was never a team Suzuki but a simple bike with a kicker sign me up oh and 6k brand new, no brainer
Hopefully more test sessions leave out Suzuki. I love Suzuki, but they REALLY need to revamp the bikes. Maybe this will help push them to change in 2025.
Rumor is they're making a new bike,but they said that last year, if roczen can't bring em back, no one will
A good rider on a Suzuki can be faster than an average rider on a Yamaha for 2/3 of the price. Suzuki is becoming more relevant as cost of bikes increases. For the most part Suzuki is still competitive enough for the weekend rider and financially more accessible. If anything testers could leave out the Husky. An expensive bike and the least liked on test. If Suzuki do a major revamp they will have to sell it for heaps and it will loose it's appeal to a lot of people. Suzuki could however listen to the testers and make a few tweaks. Rear shock valving and 250 clamps and forks seem to go a long way in improving some of the 450 short comings.
Man, how many YZ350f's would they sell?!
Really decent and honest review. . . Not like those biased motocross action idiots. It's been the KTM brands 1 2 and 3 for the last how many years, they don't even hide their bias. It's a joke so it's good to see a proper review here
Something fishy going on when you compare this year's shootout to last year's. KX450 was unchanged two years in a row last year and won. YZ450 was all new last year and came second. KX is all new this year and every review has said it's as good as last year's bike or better. Last year SML said the YZ came second because of "uncharacteristic nervousness from the front end".
And couldn't agree more with the guy who questioned why they included 3 KTMs but no Suzuki. Just pure laziness.
@@kingcrumpet It's not lazy, including the Suzuki that hasn't changed in 5 years is just a waste of everyone's time.
@@kingcrumpetI’d say Suzuki is the one that’s lazy!
Only one the riders preferred the mellower powerband the KX provides, that’s why it came in 2nd.
My bet in a race, it’ll be the Yamahas taking the holeshot, but the Kawis bringing in the trophies. To continuously rip a 450, will wear you out. Would be nice if we all could test ride them. Lol I’d probably go Yamaha. I have a 22, and it’s tuner app does a good job with mellowing out the hit. Also
Super reliable, and runs like a top! If I wasn’t getting a Stark, I’d get a 23/24 Yz450f. Still might trade up for a used one, as they pop
up every once in a while.
If you would listen to our test riders, they mentioned how the setting Yamaha wanted our test riders to use last year was not favored. This year they were able to tweak the bike how they wish.
Best get some more 'average speed' testers (as that is the majority of buyers), and also use laptimes.
Time for another sticker give away.😮 In the next video.
Hondas need a few hours to loosen up a little and then they feel a lot better
I can't believe Yamaha still hasnt come out with a 350. So many of us ktm riders would probably switch if they did
Riders choosing the Yamaha aside, I’d take it purely for the throwback livery.
Best addition of the shootout was Gypsy Tales Jase!
How do you do this without ktm?
There is a KTM there…
Where is suzuki 450
Wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t test it at all considering no changes. What’s the point?
In the Smithsonian !
@@jimbo4203 🤣🤣
No beta?
Nothing better than a Husqvarna fc 350 my bike is the fuckin shit and all that
Best 450 is suzukiiiiiii ❤
That's sad Suzuki doesn't even get invited now.
How Much did Yamaha pay ya'll for this!? Shout out to all the Ogio backpack co host's
Wheres the beta
So this is basically just a long Yamaha ad.
And last year was basically a long Kawasaki ad if you want to break it down like that. If the test riders liked the Honda the most it would “basically be a long Honda ad..”
@@SMLChaseno and your comment proves these shootouts are really pretty irrelevant anymore anyways
HONDA! ✌🏻
Team Green ALWAYS!
No Suzuki...How lame is thatt? Just because it hasn't changed in however many year isn't a legit reason not to include it. It won a Supercross main event this year. And ran up from in an outdoor race. Not to mention, everyone seem to think the previous generation KTM was better than the latest model. Using your logic with the Suzuki, why are you testing all three colors of the new KTM that's not as good as the old one? I believe Beta has a 450 that is actually all new. Being that new is so important un this shootout, why don't we see it here? And since the Kawasaki is actually the only new bike, shouldn't this be a shootout between it and the Beta? As you said, all the others are unchanged. What gives?
You have to much time on your hands
I’m sure you’re a cool guy and all but this is just a weird comment
@@baby-sharkgto4902 How so?
Kenny’s Suzuki is not even close to that crap Suzuki is selling us
The suzuki factory bike did well. Buying a bike based on Kennys results is like buying your next daily driver based on who won Nascar.
No one wanted to Kickstart a Suzuki this year? Lol. So what its unchanged you should still have it in the mix.
Ok the Yamaha is great got it. But what about the numbers? Dyno, weight, hp, price? This was awful
Gotta take A-Ray out of these shootouts. He's bias to the Yamaha. KX450 for the win minus his bad vote.
No RMZ..complete BS. Funny thing is, i sure do pass a lot of KTM's on race day lol
It’s the same unchanged bike from 2018. Why waste breath on something that isn’t even new?
@jacobdolph37 because every test rider names off a lot of things they like, and sometimes things you can do to make it even better. I like to hear all about it and I enjoy watching footage of them riding it etc. It's a slap in the face to those of us that ride RMZ's and have success and FUN on them. Its more bike than 98% of people can even ride to full potential. But keep spending money on overhyped KTM junk. Not even the pros wanna ride the ktm450. And before you say sexton, the kids a head case and would've ridden ANYTHING to get away from Honda and Jett.
@@chupacabraracing181 I’ve had every new bike under the sun. The Suzuki has not and will not change. What you wanted to hear about and see the BNG on the bike? Haha come on man we all know Suzuki is a joke. And no one said anything about riding a KTM either. Probably why you brought KTM up, because of your out dated RMZ?
@jacobdolph37 reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I specifically laid out my reasons for why I think the RMZ should be included regardless. And KTM has always been junk and none of the pros even want to ride the KTM 450
@@chupacabraracing181 haha okay big brains! Enjoy your Suzuki and ride on that KTM high horse.
I stole buttery’s van.
The silver ring on Gas Gas is so ugly, why do they always use that color?
Dylan Ferrandis would disagree with all of you. Is it because he’s so much slower than these guys?
So basically one sided input 😂
Everyone liked Yamaha. There. Just saved y'all 17min. Go outside 🤗
And yet the Honda will beat all of them when it counts.
No need to play metal in background when people are talking.
That's bullsh!t not including the Suzuki, a new model bike does NOT mean it is a better bike, plus the Suz comes with an aftermarket muffler, so it has changed. Not a "shootout" unless they are all there.
I don’t trust these guys like I do Josh Mosiman at Motocross Action. He keeps it real when a bike is crap. All these guys do is talk about the Yamaflaw. Then you got Gypsy in there, first time I’ve heard him talk without interrupting someone every 5 seconds.
This is the first year a Yamaha has won our shootout in years? 😂 Also, NONE of the bikes are crap…
okay, go and buy yourself a ktm, write me later what do you think about buying a bike for almost 11k with unridebale crap suspension🤡 oh, by the way, you also cannot reprogram your ecu on ktm, because they blocked it on purpose, so, if you want to buy an aftermarket exhaust, you also need to buy get ecu to reveal the pontentional of the engine, and it still will have LESS bottom end power than stock yz. i’ve been a ktm guy for 10 years, because i am a pro racer and used to ride only wide open, and none of the 250 have that fresh top end, but i am tired to pay hudge money only for this, because in other things bike is a crap (really). That is the reason why i don’t trust guys like josh mosiman, since he came to mxa as a major test rider ktm have won every 250 shootout (before ktm won none)
kawi's obnoxious large silencer is cringey looking
Did they talk to each other about the bikes? Its seeens like they were influenced by the best rider… Pros like the Yamaha for sure, but amateurs, vets prefer something more mellow… I don’t know 🤷♂️, didn’t feel as legiti as the past shootouts
No Suzuki WTF
Ktm riders. But but but.. 😅😅😂
is this yamaha paid promo ?
Does anybody else show 81K likes in this video already?
Cap 🧢
i see 26......thats 26, one after 25
It must be some error. It says 81K still on mine...
@@jkell41182.8k followers of swap moto.
clear your cookies and cache
yamaha is amazing but they will have nothing for the red bikes come race time
Boys when ya sit down at the end for your opinion ' remember yamaha hired a lip reading sniper and hes hideing on that hill there