The Decline of Long John Silver's...What Happened?
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- Long John Silver’s is the #1 fast food seafood restaurant in the United States. Yet, they’re much smaller than they once were and I can only describe their situation as decades of struggle. This video talks about what happened.
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When down in the dumps after my mother's passing, I went in close to closing time. I had been painting rooms in basement all day. Young lady working there took my jumbo shrimp order. Saw that I wasn't in best mood. Told me that since it was close to close that I could have all the shrimp (it was like 30 pieces) and to take my time in the dining room. I ate the whole plate. I told the crew that my mother would scold them for overfeeding me. They laughed. I called the management next day to thank them. I go there a lot. Hope they survive.
That's a really wholesome story
@Kristopher Roth Quit being an ass. They did a good thing.
That’s awesome. I lost my mom 2 years ago and the pain is constant. Little things like this mean a ton. I hope you find peace 🙏🏻
Hope you didn't say that you were given free food lol.
Great story -and I do admire your intestinal fortitude.
“yes, we still exists” is the most honest thing any restaurant chain can say.
Hope it isn't also said by Harley-Davidson later on...
@@azmike3572
It is a shame H-D is losing most of it's
costomers to old age. H-D doesn't offer small bikes for younger and new riders,
Like a Honda Rebel 250/300. If a toung or new rider first buys a small bike like a Rebel 250 and likes it, there is a good chance that he might stay with that brand after he moves up to a bigger bike. Time and time again. Also, no dirt bikes. Sometimes, the fun really begains where the pavement ends. H-D managers don't seem to realize that.
Finally price. H-D bikes are expencive.
They need to be more competitively priced with Japanese and other foreign bikes. An intresting formula to emulate is the newer product lineup from
Royal-Enfeild. An old British firm now made in India. If they can keep the quaulity up, young buyers will take note.
David Krueger agreed....too expensive and too unreliable. Little things always break. Even just from sitting.
Even when it's highly successful. No one needs to _learn_ about McDonald's anymore. Every ad is just a reminded "hey, we still exist, just like yesterday!". And maybe those tantalizing visuals will make your mouth water when you're high at 1:30 am.
Only as long as they do still exist! ;-)
What i've learned from this channel is that when a restaurant is acquired by Yum Brands, its decline is inevitable.
Yea YUM is like the George Soros of conglomerates.
its*😊
Yep lol
Unless your Taco Bell
@@LFFunEmporium You never had late 80s early thru mid 90s taco bell...it was so much better
We were at a location in a small town in Ohio, and we made our drive thru order just before closing time. We waited and waited, but the food never came out. My wife went inside and was told that they were closed. She said she knew, but we hadn't gotten our food yet. They just gave her everything they had left, which was more than we ordered. I think the crew was high, but in the best possible way.
You were in Elyria, I bet
HAHAH that’s awesome
Something similar happened to me at Little Cesar's.
My parents met in a long john silvers. So I can attribute my whole existence to fried fish.
haha that's awesome!
Are your parents the same sex?
omg literally same and now i work there
like deadass
Lol That’s Awesome!!!
As someone who's worked at long john's: it's not a bad place. The food's alright. They do owe most of their continued existence to the elderly though.
I’m a cook at long Johns a&w and might I say it’s a bitch but it’s aight fish taco pretty damn good
I have never been, but from the one in my town it looks like it would attract a lot of old people..
@@00ghostcobra really rude thing to say!
I look at Silvers as a good fun alternative to $$$$$$ Red Lobster !!!
@@00ghostcobra If you get a chance, do eat there. The food is good.
When I was a kid, going to LJS was a thrill; it was like eating at a theme park cafe with the Treasure Island motif adorning every inch of the darkened, subdued dining room. I'd order the Ben Gunn (the kids' meal) and savor it while wearing the souvenir paper "pirate hat". It literally felt like having dinner below deck of a Pirate Ship -- at least, that's how it felt to an 8-year-old in 1982. Even if you don't share that nostalgic view, we can at least agree that there was no other fast-food chain like it. Why they traded that for the generic "sunnier" motif, I can't imagine.
I loved how my kids meal came in a boat!
@@davelopez3695 That was great, wasn't it? Everything was coordinated with the pirate ship theme. Now, it's just generic fish-and-chips, and why would a kid get excited for that?
I remember there being long lines just to order, leading out the door and wrapping around the building in the 80s. Oh, how times have changed.
Arthur Treachers fish n chips & Captain D’s were & are also good.
Yeh it felt like a big deal. I agree.
About 11 years ago, back when my dad had open heart surgery, he couldn't keep anything down. He would throw up anything and everything, but he was craving LJS. The doctors finally allowed my mom to bring him some and surprisingly, he kept it down hahaha!!!
Wholesome story❤
I never been to one haven’t seen them on Long Island for more than 40 years
Aww thats awsome im glad he got to enjoy it😊
Open heart surgery and then a meal that is 16x the trans fats you’re supposed to have in one day. Not good rehabilitation.
Greasy food is great after getting arteries un cc logged
When almost everyone is selling the exact same burgers, it was nice to have the fish alternative.
Yes exactly!! You can find the same generic burger, chicken sandwich and fries and damn near every single fast food restaurant. But no where can you find fish this good in a fast food environment
Captain D's is better imo
80sCats&GunsAddict In-N-out is awesome, best burgers ever
Sean Fisher go to le peeps, 59 diner, DOT cafe etc and you’ll never eat ihop or Denny’s again. Their food is pure TRASH. What’s crazy is real food only costs $1-2 more for the whole meal.
I grew up on IHOP and it after having real food it just tastes like frozen 2 week old cheap crap to me now.
Miguel Yes you can... Walleye from Culvers is amazing.
The first time I saw a Long John Silver’s restaurant in 1976, was from the outside, and it looked like a family seafood restaurant with wait service, like Red Lobster. So I asked my new girlfriend out on a seafood dinner date. We got dressed as one would for a dinner date. When we walked in and I saw that it was a fast food restaurant, I was mortified, and I was sure she thought what a cheap skate to bring her to a fast food restaurant on a first date. But we stayed and had dinner. She eventually married me. I took her out on better dates. But you can’t mention Long John Silver’s without the story coming up about our first date at a fast food restaurant . I’m sorry to see them decline. That restaurant closed years ago and the closest one to us is 20 miles away.
There’s is one In my state far up north in Michigan not the UP but far up there it’s so random too we have none down state it’s odd on location
Thats a hilarious. Glad it worked out and now you have a funny story of yalls first date.
We got one in my city that’s still open
Thats how you know she was a keeper, she didn't run!
You still ate there? You should would’ve told her you thought it was a red lobster and then left 😂
I used to LOVE my local Long John Silvers. It legit was once a genuinely pleasant experience to eat there. Decent music playing, amazing service, and everyone was in a good mood. Then there was a change in management and everything seemed to change. There was no music playing and everyone was always in a bad mood. I stopped frequenting there when this change happened and a few years later, they were gone. Funny thing: that building is now a Checkers and is not only the only dine-in Checkers I have ever seen, but still smells like Long John's inside.
most people who work in any fast food chain seem to be in a bad mood, as if "do I have to serve you?" Crappy attitude which actually got worse when their pay went up.
@@adotintheshark4848that attitude began when people started to believe that every single job in the universe should allow you to live like cardi b
I LOVE Long John Silver's and it's sad to see them wither away. These companies need to stick with what made them. Adults can decide whether they want a healthy option or not. I think it's stupid to change up your menu to please people who weren't involved in the success of the company in the first place.
People who feel LJS is dangerously unhealthy will never step foot in those store no matter how many healthier alternatives you put on the menu. They just needed to stick with what works. This was not a restaurant that was going to find a new audience.
❤❤@@RedNekLvr22
When they shifted from the “pirate themed” decor to a bright, airy, “sea breeze” theme is when I thought they lost touch. You can go most anywhere with bright colors & lots of light. It was “cool” to feel like you were eating in a pirate ship’s galley.
@AJtheory Arrrgh you a salad eatin' land lubber who can't tell a binnacle from a barnacle and hasn't got a clue of whats flotsam versus jetsam?
AGREED! Bring back the pirate theme! It was my favorite part as a kid, and it's named after a pirate after all!
@@capnbobretired Lmao TELL THEM!
They ditched the Pirate theme right before the decade long Pirates of the Caribbean domination of the World. They would have been billionaires by kids wanting to go to the pirate place and wear the paper pirate hat and eat from the pirate ship.
Ditto. And the new logo is cartoonish, cobranding doesn't help either.
I worked at a LJS from 1999 to 2016. I'll tell you I seen the decline in crew incentives. When I was first hires they would provide cash prizes to employees for different things each month. I started with vacation and sick days. Not to mention bonuses given to management. When I left I no longer had sick days. My vacation was cut from 4 weeks to 40 hrs. My last raise consisted of 50 cents. When the employees quit feeling appreciated or that their hardworking went unrecognized. They stopped taking pride in their jobs. The only reason I stayed was because my regional manager kicked ass and fought for us. He also was hired at 16 and worked his way up.
40 hour vacation time!?
50 cent raises? I get up to 25 cent raises for America’s 11th most popular drive thru, no where near going out of business 😳
17 years at a fast food restaurant?
I worship you for providing service to this restaurant even if you had your share of asshole customers
@@jayvan4821 thats a week of vacation time lol. That's not even bad.
@@ghostlegit one week in a year is a bit short. I receive 2 months yearly.
I am from Kentucky- so this place had meaning for me. In a landlocked flyover state, this was my first introduction to fish along side Mrs. Paul’s. As a kid- we did a class trip to Jericho- they were very nice. They showed us their new ad campaign- I would have preferred more pirate stuff but it was happy families eating.
What is a flyover state?
@@briannaoppong-antwi9702 people fly over us when they're going to their destination.
Here in West KY, you can't go 20 minutes here without seeing a Long John's or Captain Ds.
@@adamnbryantI was about to say. I’m about 15 minutes from Henderson and I pass by one every time I come and go to work.
Being from Kentucky, you never had been to a fish fry at somebody’s place? Like catfish, bass, and bluegill caught from a lake fried kinda fish.
The ONLY problem I ever had with any of them was that many them suffer from lack of upkeep, maintenance, and cleaning. Same issue as Taco Beuno.
I had my 12th birthday celebration at LJS. My mom was getting her Master's and the recession was still a big concern for us. It was delicious to me and the best we could do. Just my mom, sister and I. So it has a warm place in my heart.
Awesome memories
My mom would take me there every other weekend before taking me back to my dad. I will still go there a couple times a year or when life gets too heavy for some comfort food. Fish and chicken platter with extra crumbs. Drowned in malt vinegar.
Man nothing wrong with that sounds like a solid birthday to me!
I never really had a bad time at long john silver's, the food wasn't a gourmet meal but it was good enough that every year or so my family would take a trip long john silver's
"every year or so" may be the other reason these guys aren't doing so well...
I’ve never been don’t like fish
Phil Immerfall true. I feel like for most people it just isnt that food place you end up going to alot but you do go to
sell god Xid then why on earth are you watching and commenting on a fish restaurant video
infinite mr.clean sounds like the best family vacay ever
LJS was my first summer job in my teens in the mid 80s. I loved it! It was a great place for families to have an inexpensive seafood dinner out. Unfortunately both of my local LJS have recently closed and now the closest location is about 1 1/2 hours away. But you know I'll be road tripping there at some point.
My small PA town Clarion had a LJS by the mall. It was fairly decent for years. I liked LJS for fish, shrimp.
Yeah teens don’t make good staff members is why these places fail.
Teens now are mostly useless for anything but indifference,sloth, entitlement,ignorance and violence - truthfully we were far more violent but we knew how to fight and made it far more dangerous and engengered respect for somebody that may kick your butt.
My dad ran a Long John Silver’s most of my childhood. It holds a special place in my life. When they changed the decor we got a barrel, a ship wheel and a few booths. The booth was our outside dining set. I still the hush puppies and crunchies. I do not however miss my dad always smelling like fish. 😂
It always seems to start with a leveraged buyout...
the two most cursed words on this channel
AKA Vulture Capitalism. Only that term isn't really fair to the vultures since unlike venture capitalists they wait until their dinner is dead before picking its bones clean.
Uh-huh. More recently Neiman Marcus just filed for bankruptcy due in no small part to debt from a leveraged buyout. I hope they and LJS can both weather the storm.
Buy, leverage, financial engineer out as much money as possible, liquidate the carcass. Repeat.
@@hotwax9376 Maybe they could open up a combination Neiman Marcus/Long John Silver store? I'm sure that would be a hit.
Their fish batter breading is like no other. You can’t deny that.
I wish someone would apply that batter to onion rings
@@bonsaitreehouse5534 I work there and they do
@@bonsaitreehouse5534 we already do?
Arthur Treacher's was vastly better.
@@chuckschillingvideos lol who???????
My grandmother loved LJS. When I was a teenager and started working I would go at least once a week to get us something from there. The one in our town, which isn't exactly small, closed down a while back. I haven't really thought about it in years, but it makes me want to hit one if nothing else for the memories.
I love Long John Silver’s! I like their fish and their coleslaw is the best. The biggest issue I’ve experienced is long wait times for my order. And finding a nearby location. If they could improve service, they would do a lot better.
I've been to LJS's in several states. 95% of them share a common theme, and that is they all tend to be in a "not great" areas. Not necessarily like slums or anything, just always older, poorer areas. I'm sure this doesn't help traffic to LJSs. If they actually opened new LJSs, in better locations, they might actually see increased sales.
This. All the LJS’s in my area tend to be in the low income areas, where things tend to be not very safe. If they were to open in better places, I’m sure they’d get more business than if they opened in these poorer places. I get what they were going for though. It’s hard to find fish meals in some of these less nice areas, but that’s because the demand is low to non existent there.
Aside from shrimp and fried cod, what "SEA FOOD" did they really sell?
I have a Long John Silvers near me, and it's actually in a really busy area off of a highway with some truck stops, gas stations, and hotels.
Well... thats where a lot of our tax dollars go
@@malcorub
Perch, catfish, shrimp and yes cod, last time i went. Hush Puppies and coleslaw.
The restaurant in Roger's Park in Chicago also offered chicken...
When I think Long John Silver I think the Hush Puppies. That plus I think the crumbs.
Mmmmm ! The crumbs are delicious !
My gf loves their tartar sauce on the hushpuppies. Tried it and its pretty good!
We called the "crumbs" knurdles (pronounced: kah-nerdles). And yes, they were delish along with the hush puppies.
Once upon a time you could ask for extra crumbs and they would give them to you at no extra cost. No idea if you still can, as I haven't even lived near one in ages.
@@kenbob1071 Krums (yes, thats how they spell it) are free
Growing up as a kid my mom was a manager at a LJS and I have many fond memories of that place. I would literally eat the food 4 to 5 times a week and never got tired of it! I live in a huge city and there's only 2 or 3 locations left now. Sad to see them going down like this. Every time I walk into one I get a huge rush of nostalgia!
Loved their Malt Vinegar. Dad bought a take home bottle of it. Also I loved snacking on the crispies. I Havn't eaten at a LJS in decades.. Now I'm kind of in the mood.
My grandpa always had a bottle in the fridge.
Deep frying is an art. The second the fryer is overfilled or under temperature, the second you get greasy, mushy product. Hiring a bunch of teenagers to handle this guaranteed this to happen.
The most American thing ever😂😂
Such places rely on cheap labor as an integral part of their business model They can only keep a profit if they keep labor under 25% of the revenue. This is actually the same with most restaurants. But unlike normal full service restaurants, the major chains serve low price meals and don't rely on tips which does not count as part of the labor costs in a full service restaurant. So they expend much less money per employee in that way. Hire a professional cook and expect your per hour labor expense to be close to $20 and hour or more. Most chain restaurants maintain a per hour labor expense well under $12 and often as low as $10 in the case of fast food places like McDonald's. Supposedly fast rood restaurants should in theory work since everything is planned out for the employees who only have to follow simple recipes that any untrained person can follow. In reality one still has to have a basic understanding of the food business to serve safe food that is good to eat. By paying only minimum wage or slightly more, fast food restaurants only get people who cant find work elsewhere. So those people start out unhappy. They don't give a crap what they serve you. They just want to make it through one more unpleasant shift and get the heck out of that place and go home and pretend they don't have a crappy job. Do you honestly think they care if your meal is made with fresh ingredients properly cooked?
Its not an art, its a science. There's nothing but chemistry involved.
Actually, as a former manager for LJS, their had a huge emphasis on training and did a very good job with it. The fryers were pretty much idiot proof. Light comes on, put in the product, push the timer, timer goes off, pull it out of the fryer. They had machines that exactly measure the water for the batter and the water was the exact temperature needed. The problem in my opinion was going from hand cut fish to these huge frozen blocks of formed fish pieces that were cut into shims and scored then broken on those scores to get the diamond shape of the fish you see. The fish is coated with a powder and cooked frozen. Also, to this day I still do not know what the chicken is. If you saw it uncooked before being battered you would probably run away screaming.
At my first job, I was explicitly told "It doesn't matter how much oil is in the fryer, as long as it's not overflowing it's fine." We might as well have just sold fire hazards.
_"Yes We Still Exist"_
**Rings the Bell** 🔔
Press V to ring
Who the heck thinks that, "Yes, We Still Exist" could have ever sounded good
V!
*workers dance like mad*
@@vitemallight8818 In classic terms, it should be Ctrl+G.
Long John Silvers had a special for your young buccaneers. Your pirates ate for peanuts and they cruised away with free souvenirs. They had a seafood platter, fries, and a home made slaw -- chicken too! You brought the whole crew, it was a fun thing to do...
I’ve never had the fish at Long John Silver’s. I only order the chicken planks. That and the hush puppies and the french fries and the coleslaw are the only things I’ve ever eaten there. It’s probably not the healthiest food because of all the deep frying, but once in a while it hits the spot. But, yes, they’ve closed a couple locations in the city where I live over the last several years. In fact, I think there’s only one Long John Silver’s restaurant left.
I'm 54. When I was a teen their food was really good. What I noticed, was that the quality of the fish went down, they changed the oil they cook with, then they started over-salting the fish. I found the same issue in Southern IL and in Central PA. I stopped going there about 8 years ago. It seemed like a new management profit taking scheme. Cheapen the product to increase profit for a couple of years, then go somewhere else. It seems to happen everywhere. Management with no idea how to grow a company or keep it alive longer than 5 years. They line their pockets and run the company into the ground.
Yes it was the oil , it left a film taste in my mouth, kind of like licking a tree or drinking Starbucks coffee
They used lard at our location. I was a cook in highschool 1985-1986 for two years. I would have to take this big cube out of the box and unwrap this blue bag it was in and cut the lard into 1/4's and place it in the newly clean fryer. The oil was rotated to the right every couple of days. You had to test it with a test kit, so when we knew when it was time to rotate. The more food that was cooked. The faster the oil would be rotated. We had 6 fryers and everything moved right. Right before I left to deliver pizza to make more money. They switched to peanut oil and then veggie oil. Some might not want to hear this, but that lard made a world of difference. Food tasted so much better. The cod was real also, as was the butterfly shrimp. Peanut oil was ok, but not the veggie oil.
Same experience right down to the oversalting. Really a shame, back when the food was decent I really liked to go there occasionally
@@Booneboarder I was a cook there too back in 04-09. And I still remember that big ol block of lard. Lol. If you didn’t know what you were doing and had just thrown that big block in there, you were just asking for it. Had to cut it up to smaller pieces to allow it to melt evenly and properly. I had some Good times at LJ’s.
Exactly.. that oil was so bad, it coated the inside of your mouth with a chalky grease residue that in your stomach would make you literally sick! It turned So bad, no wonder McFish was even better at that point.
I ate Long Johns for almost 24 years of my life every Friday night before I went bowling. They served beer and had televisions set up that played the games.
They got rid of beer in 1999.
Then around 2008 they changed something about their food, removed the televisions, cut 4 of my favorite platters for "on a bed of rice" choices, and changed the seating and aesthetic.
This video explains a lot of that.
I actually worked at a long johns one summer for shits and giggles and to learn how they made everything so I could make it myself.
There are still LJS around KY but its hard to find and isn't the same.
I used to ear at the long john silvers in my area but stopped after I figured out how unsanitary My location was, I just go to Captain D's now.
for the shits and giggles 😂😂
I would love to have a copycat recipe for their chicken planks.
There are a ton still in Texas. I remember falling in love with it as a kid (I’m 20). Most people seem to dislike the food when I ask but i know they changed it up because my parents would talk about how it taste so greasy now and just disgusting...and how it’s so unhealthy
Word, Yak. Williamsburg, KY, first Northbound I-75 exit, has the best LJS I've ever been to.
The LJS near me has closed, but my family and I really enjoyed eating there in the late 80s - mid 90s. The only thing that bothered me sometimes was the strong vinegar-smell when you walked in. But their fried fish and chicken planks, puppies, and baked fish on rice pilaf were excellent! A refreshing choice over the tired burgers from McD, BK and Wendys. Also reminds me of Arthur Treachers.
Sadly, sometimes, my wife has that same smell going on, but I overlook it because she's got other good traits.
these comments are all gold. Thank you to everyone for sharing their LJS stories
My German friend: "What is that?" "A hushpuppy, basically deep fried bread." She took a bite and her face was absolutely perplexed; "But, why?"
Cause they’re bomb w/ honey butter!!
Why not!
HushPuppy Lives Matter
A hushpuppy can be made really quickly and given to a hungry child or dog while the main meal is being made.
because 'Merica
LJS is always full of rebel senior citizens, going against their Dr.s "no salt" orders.
If i were old, this would describe me
If it's so bad for them how did they get to be senior citizens? My 93 yo mother has eaten fried foods all her life, including well cooked beans seasoned with fat back and other southern dishes. In fact she only eats fried fish. If it's fish and it ain't fried don't even bring it to her. She hates the food in the retirement facility she's in because they never offer that. The vegetables are under cooked and it's always baked this and salad that. She eats in moderation. Just because it's salty and fried doesn't make it bad.
@@FLATBUSHPLAY
Fat is actually not that bad, especially not monounsaturated and omega 3 fats. Cholesterol is good in normal doses, being the precursor to testosterone and estrogen.
Salt... Salt is what might cause problems. Personally, I've cut it back. It wears down the endothelium. If it does this faster than it can regenerate, it can cause blood vessel leaks, and eventually, hemorrhagic stroke.
@@FLATBUSHPLAY Sodium works in tandem with potassium. The body needs both of these electrolytes to function. Potatoes contain much potassium, so it balances out excess salt in those seafood dishes to some degree.
@@Mephitinae So much illogic in your post, hard to keep track.
LJS was walking distance down the street from my childhood home and is nostalgic for me. Most of the locations near me have closed and the few that remain are hot messes. The one in Charles Town WV is combined with an A&W; last time I went it took 20+ minutes to get my order, the dining room was a mess and there were fruit flies all over the drink station.
i'm from lexington,ky and i love long john silver's growing up it brought great memories... now we dont even have one anymore in the town it all started so sad :(
I wondered what happened to them. In my home town things got really bad. The cooking grease tasted like it was changed about once a month. Within a year the restaurant has closed. I miss LJS the way it used to be. They had good food.
There's still one in Stockton California. I'm going there today.
Me too Jim 😪
@@j.d.contreras392 where at I was just out north and they closed that one down i was mad af
@@j.d.contreras392 the one in stockton is definitely going down hill. I went the other day and there was burnt grease all over all of my food. Very sad when comparing it to its former glory
@@kirbysupercalifragilistic7819 Damn. That's the closest one to me. That sucks. It looked clean when I went there.
There was a LJS in the town I went to college in. Nobody was ever in the drive thru, no cars in the parking lot, never even knew if they were open or closed. Apparently they were open, because it closed my last year there. Never visited it, but just the building itself looked unhealthy, not just the food lol.
That sucks I love LJS.
They were always pretty busy in my town, and one day they just shut down.
@@RocketboyX me too, now the closest one i know of is an hour away in the mall of america. compared to the other restaurants in the food court, the place looks disgusting.
I always tell my friends that it looks so sad but the food is good
Poor building.
Like Long John Silvers. My dad and I used to go there a lot especially in the 90s. In my home town, Long John Silvers is long gone, but good memories remain. Didn't realize the first Long John Silvers was in Lexington and seems to now be a salon. I enjoy your content.
My grandparents used to eat there on Friday evenings once or twice a month. It was always a treat to get to go with them. That was in the 1970s and 1980s. I was last in LJS about eight years ago for lunch with some co-workers. It was good, but I generally prefer "non chain" restaurants so I haven't missed it.
If calories didn't exist, I would LIVE off of those effing hushpuppies.
no, their crunchies
no cap
Those things are so damn delicious!
FACTS BRO!!!!
Facts
I love Long John's fish. So tasty and crispy when cooked right. I hope enough people love em too so they stay around. Not another burger place
@Lord Raiden
I didn’t even know they had chicken. Lol.
I’ll have to go try that.
@Lord Raiden
Definitely. I’ll try it and let you know. I live in Houston. I just looked them up and it looks like we still have several in the area.
might try
Start a campaign .
@@TheRealBizWiz Chicken planks... you can "add a piece" for 99 cents... give it a try it's REALLY good! I'd take it over stupid Chik-Fil-A any day! OL J R :)
I really miss the Long John Silver's stores that were in our area. I always liked their food. I can't believe they are gone.
Back in the day…..I loved eating at LJS! Their fish (and breading) were amazing!
I can remember back in the early/mid 2000s, my family used to get Long John Silver's pretty regularly. The quality was so-so, but nothing to really complain about. They had their niche and seemed to fill it.
Then my dad wanted some not too long ago, and I went into the only place they have left in town (there used to be 4 in the area several years ago). It was the most depressing fast food place I've ever been to - everything looked dirty, the staff looked tired and depressed, and everything was just off. The food itself was entirely too greasy, not what I remember it being. The chicken pieces felt like they had been soaked in vegetable oil, and the fries were awful. Even the hushpuppies, one of their highlights, were soggy and bitter. For some reason though, it's one of my dad's favorite places and he continues to look past the low-quality. Plus it's kind of expensive for what you get.
Long John Silver's seems to me to have been a neat little 90s/early 2000s novelty, like Blockbuster. It was cute back then when the food was a little better and it served the needs of working people. They tried to break down the "seafood is for upper middle class people" barrier, and for a time it worked. But now the novelty has worn out and they've faded into the distance; kind of like Subway.
I've also noticed a trend where fast food places like Long John Silver's, KFC, Arby's, and Hardee's are sort of seen as working class "boomer" places to eat. I often associate them with an older, working class demographic who'll stop by there on a Friday night and pick up dinner for a payday type of meal. There's a generation gap I feel, and very few young people are going to see a place like LJS's and think "yeah, let's get dinner from there!" unless they have some memories attached to it from childhood. There's more and more food trucks and local/hipster places in towns and cities these days that fill the niche of LJS's, and consistently provide a better product with fresh ingredients.
Same in my home town. I used to love their chicken. Now when I think of their food I just think of grease 🤢
I remember them fondly from going there when I was growing up in the 80's, but kids have different tastes than adults so maybe that's coloring my memories a bit. By the mid-1990's when I went there as an adult, the experience was exactly what you described - dirty store, greasy low-quality food, and the whole place smelled like rancid grease. A friend of mine got a job there in 1995 or so and it was a miserable place to work for. Even during a good economic time with low unemployment rates, they wouldn't pay more than minimum wage and couldn't retain any decent managers because they paid them so poorly as well. People who wanted a part-time job had much better options.
Fast forward to 2011 and I stopped in another one, this time it was a combo KFC/LJS and it seemed like things had improved greatly from the 90's era. The store was a lot cleaner, the people were friendlier, but I can't speak to the food since I had fried chicken. It seemed like they might have made a comeback of sorts.
The one down the road from me is closed now near wpafb it was dirty low lighted kinda dingy looking place no one was in there had three maybe four employees but the food was good not greasy the service was good too its like they stopped caring about the store then it closed
therealshackleford1 “kind of like subway” What? My town has several subways, and the one nearest to me is always booming at lunchtime! Is subway having troubles nationally, I wonder?
@@InvaderMik A lot of Subways in my area have shut down; the only one that's really left is located in the local Walmart (I think they've closed a lot of locales nationally in the past few years); the quality though isn't too bad, definitely not as bad as LJS's.
Oh how I love LJS’ batter! Every time I went with my grandparents for a “ special treat meal” I would ask for extra “ crunchies” on the side. Super unhealthy but as a 10 year old kid, there was nothing better.
same !!! the “crunchies” that came on the side were the best thing ever !
Ah another crunchies fan. I see you have fine taste.
I always called em Bread Crumbs
Tell me about it, would always give it a big whiff back when I was working there
My sister would trade me her fries for my crunches every time we went. Good memories.
When I stayed with my grandparents in the country, they would always treat me to LJS when they got their monthly pension and I would always look forward to it because there was not one where I lived in the city, so when I go to my grandparents hometown, I always think of them and that treat.
Proud to say my city still has a combined LJS and A&W location, and it is still wildly popular
I’ve had an unhealthy relationship with LJSs for decades. Since store closings, I’ve resorted going to the rougher parts of town to get their fish. I’ve even gone during quarantine. I’ve been to LJS in 6 states. It’s my kryptonite (literally, it’s gonna kill me)
so you're a LJS fan ? Do you prefer the new logo and theme, or the original setup?
is your mouth just like coated in that weird film all the time?
@@jackrado3575 You just brought back memories I didn't even realize I had
Price would never eat LJS
I believe in you!
I hope they stick around, I like their fries with the malted vinegar.
Is nobody talking about those small crispys that they throw in with the chicken
@Gray Au What?!
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Who ever is responsible for this video. Your doing a excellent job.Editing and presentation are most excellent. Keep up the good work. Really enjoy your content. Thx you
Loved LJS - - miss them in Florida and Arkansas particularly. Ate there at least once a week. Loved the "bell".
My biggest problem with Long John Silvers was the deterioration of their cleanliness of their stores. Around this time, I saw a roach climbing up the wall of the booth that I was sitting in. I have not been back since.
Same. In 1991, I went for dinner there. Roach climbed up the booth. Never went back.
I worked there as a teen. When the company was bought by YUM brands, they cut a ton of costs that hurt quality. They had fries back in the day that were some of the best fries of any fast foo chain. Manager said the company went to a cheaper ingredient that saved the company a million per year bc the company isnt known for fries.
They used to schedule a staff member to do nothing but clean the dining room area and take out trash 2 hours every morning and evening. They cut that position and said front register staff could clean in their free time. Well sometimes staff doesn’t have free time, which leads to dirty tables, full trash, and a dirty looking restaurant.
The cleanliness of the chain has gone downhill in the name of saving 2-4 minimum wage hours per day.
You're right about that. I started to notice the difference in the cleanliness and upkeep back about 20 years ago. Their dining rooms began to look dirty and worn. Some were worse than others. Some places still looked OK, but most didn't. Several around my area have closed over the last ten years or so. It was disappointing because the food was still pretty good. Fortunately, Captain D's has stepped in to pick up the slack.
jeb909 I agree TOTALLY! People like me in Florida need to at least have a Captain D’s in the area.
To add to my comment. The fries saved them a million dollars, but what’s a million dollars in the grand scheme of YUM brands? The fries back when were similar to Popeyes. They had a coating which was pretty good.
I’ve always loved their food. It’s sad to me that truly terrible fast food places flourish while LJS continues to struggle.
I'm convinced it isn't a food problem so much as gross mismanagement.
You must have a good location near you, then. The most recent ones I've been to have been extremely unsanitary and just gross. It sucks because I wish I could love LJS again.
Agree
LJS is terrible though, its not at all the same place it was 30 yrs ago.
They should have sued the press for defamation. I dont understand how Varsity is still alive. They are the worst.
As a kid we went there frequently, especially during lent. When I got older, I never thought much about them until there was an A&W at the same location, which I wanted to try. Again it follows the theme that LJS lost relevance. Later in life I had problems with gluten, which again caused me to ignore the brand as all was fried with gluten. Considering the gluten and amount of fat, I'm not sure if I will ever go back again. I will keep the fun memories of going as a kid. good video.
The 1 Long John Silver location in our town closed about 2 yrs ago but the 2 locations of Capt D;s are always busy. Always have preferred D's because of a wider selection of menu items; choices of fried, baked, or broiled entrees; fried items are not greasy or heavily salted; and choices of fresh veggie sides.
I miss the old buildings, they now look like every other fast food place when they used to have a unique small fishing town look to it
Can't beat the warf/dock look of the old style. You are right. Now they just blend in with the rest. Boring.
This is a problem that every fast food restaurant seems to be going through. Most buildings and interiors weren't exactly unique before, but now every chain is redesigning to be the same box-type building, tall box with the logo, with faux wood flooring and tables inside. Seriously, look at any Wendy's, McDonald's, Taco Bell that has been refurbished or built in the last 5ish years and you'll find they all look very similar. All different parent companies by the way.
@@abiwonkenabi7027 i agree with you but the McDonalds near me have a weird modernart style that looks cheap and also is gloomy, the inly colors are red, black, grey, and white with short uncomfortable seats. But yeah i agree with you on that like if you showed me fhe inside of a burger kind and a wendy's i would get them mixed up
Mine is still old school. Lotta old ppl here
@@jareds-tits mine is not like the older ones that i mentioned yet is now the newest type yet but they still have a load of old people in it
The reason I stopped going to Long John's? They refused to raise prices a tiny bit and instead lowered the sizes of things to a ludicrous level... you used to get a pretty large piece of chicken or fish in a 'plank'. It's now so goddamned small it's laughable.
See i thiught they lowered the portions too haven't been in AWHILE.
@Frank Castle I work in a dine-in restaurant and yeah, my co-workers who have second jobs at fast food said this, also, a lot of dine in restaurants are also downsizing or portioning it a certain size. Now, some of it isn't becuase of 'downsizing' but becuase when you cook the food, depending on what it is, it will shirk as water leaves the food but mostly because we are downsizing the portions given to you.
The excuse before Covid-.....actually I never got a reason as too why? 'Cost's' would most likely be the reasons but now it's becuase of the damn lock down recovery and covid but in reality this was happening well before.
@Cougar Killer I order a large coke at bk and it was a medium size.
@@madisonatteberry9720 maybe because America is obese and this would be a way to lessen that 🤔???? Idk
@@liz-pz1ke Maybe?
I remember the first Good Friday I worked there,,,,,”Line out the door” started a few minutes after open until we shut the sign off. It was fun like our stores Super Bowl. Maybe it’s different now but 30 years ago it was a blast on that day and the guys I worked with lived the challenge. We just rotated fast smoke breaks all day and kept up!
That fish 'n' chips was really good from what I can remember! So was the side of hushpuppies that came with it. I wan't to see if it still holds up to my memory today but I'll need to find the time to make the 40 minute drive to the nearest one.
Am I the only person who doesn't think Long John Silvers is that bad? I actually sort of like the food, not to the point where I'd choose it over most things but it's not bad.
personally, it’s good, but you really gotta be in the mood for it
The long john's in Sapulpa, Okla at first it started out as a great place to eat..then after years of ,maybe not hiring the right managers ours started going down hill..the food quality, the old grease they cooked fish in, and it looked un appetizing, the restaurant was dirty..,the ppl were not the best crew ..so sad..
@@diannaralston9877 to be fair, looking for quality food in sapulpa is like looking for a good accountant in west tulsa
Dianna Ralston when was this? Smaller towns don’t have a lot of fast food places unfortunately!
My dad brought me there whenever we went to Laguna Beach, he practically raised me on seafood so yeah its good.
They started going downhill when they stopped giving out those paper pirate hats.
And the award goes to...
Michael Barrone for funniest comment
Burger King still has the crowns, but now they suck.
And took peg legs off the menu
Michael Barron, Yep
Light Theory LLC Funny? This is serious, I want my hat back
I love LJS. Worked for them in early 80's. So glad I can still get some in Kentucky. My mother loves LJS fish. We live in Florida. I pickup a pieces of 8 (used to be called that), refrigerate them and deliver them 2 days later. Mom always gets a smile on her face when she sees what I bring home. Long John Silvers has been a staple in my family since 1978. Sad to see most locations are gone. Will be devastated once the rest close up.
I loved,LJS as a kid. The one in our town had a wooden walkway going up to the building with ropes and fishing nets, so it was like walking on a dock onto a boat. I always got the chicken planks with hush puppies and slaw. The best part was the crunch bits of batter at the bottom! And we always got pirate hats. Good memories.
Haven't been to one in years, really, because I stopped eating meat years ago, but once when I stopped at a Taco Bell/LJS I did order a side of hush puppies with my bean burrito 😂
When you have to say "YES - WE ARE STILL IN BUSINESS!" on your website
Yes pretty telling of things...
Lots of places say that. It's a Coronavirus thing.
When my husband was alive we used to enjoy going to Long John Silver's. The food was always so good. We didn't have a lot, but it was affordable, too.
I loved Long John Silvers! Had a couple of locations near me forever, then one day GONE. Crushed.
We were devastated when LJS closed in our town in Colorado.
We look for one when we travel and eat there.
Long John Silvers is legit the best battered fish or chicken I've ever had. They are freaking delicious. The little crumbles are the best part. I'll fight you if you say otherwise.
and I'll fight along side you : ) It's not changed, dating back to 1981
I agree about the fish and chicken. Never was interested in the crumbles though... there's enough of the batter and oil on the food items. Gave your comment a thumbs up, though. 😉
IKR! Mine even took my order of only the crumbs! Yes!!
Yes crumbs is a staple and a must have when going to LJS.
chicken planks are delicious
The food declined over the years. Smaller portions and pre cut portions. The fish in the beginning was hand cut from a large block of Icelandic cod. The fish used to be wonderful under Jericho but quickly declined once they went private.
A fish sandwich from Long John Silvers is leagues ahead of McDonalds “fish” or any other fast food chain!!
@@bonjovirocks24 eh i feel like if i want ACTUAL fish i would just go to a restaurant. if im eating fast food fish it really doesnt matter comparing them. they are all what youd expect.
last time we went(denver)a few yrs back, it was very greasy n expensive...didnt go back
@@drblog123 Didn’t know fried food was supposed to be healthy. 🤣🤣
@@bonjovirocks24 But they aren't consistent with their sandwiches.
It's like how Popeyes treated sandwiches as a short-term promo.
Their spicy chicken Po Boy was great, but they would usually screw it up.
LJR's wraps in the 90's were the best, and they discontinued them...
I absolutely loved LJS. There has not been one in my town for over 15 years now.
Almost all locations closed in my state, so on my last visit to New Mexico I had it for the first time in years, and it was way better than I remembered it.
Long John Silver's direct competition was/is Captain D's, started back in 1969 in Tennessee.
Captain D's is a bit better
I thought it was H-Salt Fish and Chips.
Came here to say this. How can a video be made about Long John Silver's (Lexington, KY) with no mention of Captain D's (Nashville, TN). Maybe a video on Shoney's, Captain D's, and/or Ray Danner is in order.
Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips was their competition here in southern CT back in the 80s
@@darrenkrivit6854 It's funny when I looked up Arthur Treacher's, that I found their only standalone locations remaining were all in the northeast Ohio (and greater Cleveland) area. There were also a handful in Maryland I think, and they were cobranded with Nathan's if I recall correctly.
used to work there. AMA.
also, i always greeted drive thru with a gimmick: "thank you for choosing loooooooong john silver's!"
Did you ever greet friends/family with the gimmick by accident?
I worked as a cook at a store that could only pay for 3 workers at a time, the cashier manager and a single cook. Our store had so little profit that they had to get rid of the mid, making me the cook, do not only my job but also the job of the mid. Working there was hell.
@@devonbrook I've done that shit so many times, I cant tell you how many times my mom has called me and I instantly replied with "welcome to McDonald's, how may I take your order"
Did people actually ring the bell or no?
@@devonbrook edit: OH, THE DRIVE-THRU; nah, unfortunately. i worked there two months until the released me, so maybe that wasn't enough time to stick around for them, but two months is still a lengthy amount of time, and i consider myself unlucky in this context
I have always loved LJS ! I can’t find one close to me anymore. I usually stop at one in WV once a year on my trip up north.
I loved Long John's since its inception, (I'm 80 yrs old) but I have watched the decline in the quality of the food over the past 30 yrs. to the point where I didn't miss the local outlet closing four years ago. It may be a local lack cooking talent, because Red Lobster has also suffered a decline, or we (the consumers) are willing to just accept mediocracy.
location was an issue with one of our local Long John's; couldn't get in or out due to increased traffic flow. the road is now undergoing reconstruction, so it's possible this Long John's won't be back.
I agree that over the years the quality of the food decreased, which is sad; at one time it was one of my favorite places.
I think the town I live has the same issues. All the chains that I enjoy when I travel just seem sub-par in my hometown. Some have opened and failed quickly.
@@johndavis1217 a lot of success depends on management and staff.
a restaurant can have five star food, but if the dining experience, which includes staff, is unpleasant people won't go back.
likewise, a place can have sort of average food, but if the experience is good, they'll return and tell others.
word of mouth advertising is still the best.
The one in my area caught fire thanks to a disgruntled employee who didn’t like his job so off it went, boarded up, and LJS said to hell with it. I was sad but it is what it is.
Same kind of thing in the town where I live. They even managed to ruin a Sheetz. I suspect it's the sign of the times, mediocrity indeed.
Miss the old style LJS with the gangplank and ropes leading to the doors with the old style wooden booths ship paintings and maps on the wall
The food was so much better then too.
AMEN :)
Seafaring design was best! I just did a quick video with a passing LJS mention: czcams.com/video/l402EnbrBgc/video.html
Taking me back
Their big mistake was in moving away from that theme, towards a more generic fast food look. Stay true to the theme, be authentic about it, and you will succeed. Nobody wants low quality fast fish from a place that looks like a damn Jiffy Lube.
my mom loved this place (before she passed) and i enjoyed whenever we went in my youth, and i miss this place tbh.
Idk of there are any LJS open in Austin anymore, but I remember there used to be one open on the Southside. If my mom would let us have our pick, usually I was the one to say LJS because I love the taste of that batter, especially the crunchy bits at the bottom of the container.
I actually really like Long John Silver's. It's probably one of my favorite restaurants that I went to as a kid. I haven't been there in a long time, but I always enjoyed their food everytime I went.
It's not what it used to be.
The hush puppies are deeelisious 😋 plus fish and chips wif malt vinegar is absolutely positively fabulous. 😍
I love the fried breading bits at the bottom of your fish and more, sell me a bucket of those barnacles!
@@darkstarmoonshadow8892 malt vinegar rocks!
@@MrZappaman420 Facts! LJS was my go-to. As time went by, the quality has went down, and it is sad because if they got the food right, people would eat there. The chicken planks and fish when cooked right is on point.
I love their food, I don’t want them to die
My first 5 bites...Heaven
My last 5 bites...ugh bluh
Well said. I knew trouble was brewing when Yum Brands announced they were selling it off. The one by was a Taco Bell combo restaurant and they tore it down and rebuilt it as Taco Bell only. I miss LJS a lot, it is hugely underrated.
@nlpjohn we had a place here in indiana fort wayne called fish of stroh oh my was it good and loved the malt vinegar on the stuff since gone yep long johns and malt vinegar is good stuff azars big boy had a great fish sandwich frisches in ohio
They're just caught up in these new times. Years ago deep frying was acceptable means of cooking and a lot of folks did. But as time moved on a more health conscience society took hold and now deep frying is looked down upon. What you see today is air frying and baking. But I did enjoy this in my youth :)
@@Spaethon that batter really hits hard after a while.
Loved eating there time to time but they closed the one here in Bloomington IL so I miss it a lot.( saw you had a photo of the Bloomington one).
Was so happy when my town got one, went there ordered a meal, left as hungry as when I walked in, and it was far from cheap. They never saw me again. A couple years later they were gone.
Ever since 1979, everytime I get a chance to visit the United States for my vacation, the LJS Restaurant is a must-visit place for me and my family. Last time I went to a LSJ was in 2017 in Florida, and the place was remodelled and fresh looking, and delicious. I hope they remain in business, for my next vacation visit there.
Nilton Lacle we have better food than LJS in the USA. I promise.
Where do you come from? And welcome and I hope you get to see all of America, although it is a huge place, it would take many trips to do so!
being Canadian i never dined at long john, not sure if they were good or not, my concern with getting fish and chips was batter, even though burgers aren't that great for you, but wish in all floor and syrup can't really have it all the time. I only have fish and chips once in awhile, plus found cost was much higher on fish but that's just me.
Next time you go to Florida try Buds Chicken and Seafood. Very great and better amount of food for the price you pay
Oh man, you went to a long John silvers for seafood while you were in *Florida*?? Dude, do yourself a favor and hit up a good seafood place on the coast next time.
As a kid the Long John's near my home was connected with a Taco Bell, but they went an extra step with it by having the building themed as if it was a Mexican port town, I always thought it was really cool that they blended the two restaurants together like that instead of just half the building being nautical and half being vaguely Hispanic.
So?
yeah. was wondering what's happened. One of them closed years ago and still haven't opened back. thought it is temporarily. obviously they haven't opened back since.
mine was combined with a KFC
@@freecreditreport.combaby Was it themed like a Kentuckian port town?
@@GenericProtagonist7 i cant remember, i think it was just the half is KFC, half is LJS
The one closest to me is one of the older locations that's been there since the 70s. It's one of those places that you forget is still there, which is a shame. I picked up dinner the other night for my family, getting the 8pc Family Meal, plus a side of popcorn shrimp for my mother, and it cost me less than $40. The food was good. I need to keep them in my mind for when I get tired of burgers or chicken. Yes, I know LJS has chicken, but it hits different when served with fish.
What I'd like to know is what happened to district managers in the fast food sphere? I used to work at a Long John Silver's while I was in college. We had a district manager that would come in some what frequently, and look things over to make sure things were as they were supposed to be. If things weren't the way they were supposed to be, the Manager and Asst. Managers got to hear about. Then, the problems were fixed before he came in again otherwise there would be an opening for Manager or Asst. Managers. Last few experiences with Long John Silver's is they are lacking that spit and polish that a DM would have seriously addressed. I know the simple response is "You can't find good help!" Yeah, I get that. But seems no one is making these managers train the employees and get the stores in ship shape as they should be either. Floors need swept, tiles in kitchen need washed daily, dining areas need swept, simple drain hygiene to keep pests ( drain flyes ) from setting up shop , etc. These are all things that employees should be learning and then carrying out.
Long John Silver's is that restaurant I always kind of liked but too embarrassed to suggest
Opinions on the food it might make me go one day
@@baumber1919 well, if you’re fine with roaches crawling up the booth them maybe you should go
@@coltywolty01 exhibit A
@@coltywolty01 If you live in the rural south, you're bound to find that in any major restaurant: Waffle House, IHOP, Longhorns, McDonald's, etc.
I've seen the occasional roach in every one
@@VicereineKillbride And if it's not a infestation problem, employees can be disgusting too when it comes to restaurants. It just depends.
Do you want to smell a smell that no one should ever smell?
Go into a Long John Silvers/Taco Bell combo restaurant.
We used to have a kfc/ljs but they got rid of the long John's a few years ago
The best smell is kfc/ljs combo
Fishy.... tacos? I’ll see myself out
That said, using TB hot sauce on LJS fish and shrimp is pretty bomb
We had a taco hell/kfc/pizza hut.
They closed KFC and taco hell, and tried turning that half of the building into a sports bar, with pizza hut food.
I loved Long John Silver's. It's the place that got me eating eating fish as a kid. We used to have one where I live in NC but was one of those split places with A&W and eventually went under.
Love your channel!
With LJS, I have such fond memories of really feeling like I was transported onto a pirate ship while eating. To me, this was the most unique thing they had about them. I always loved the food, but as I've gotten older I just have a horrible feeling after eating the food (tldr: tastes good; food = unhealthy).
I mainly just miss the restaurant pirate decor, even the "port"-like bay the outside used to look like.
Same here. Or I would have the itch to watch a sea type movie. Moby Dick, Titanic, etc.
I actually love Long John Silver‘s the problem is they’re very hard to find
Orlando FL has 2 or 3. The SoDo area place 🍽 is mixed with a KFC. I liked it but rarely went by LJS. The fried fish, shrimp 🍤, chicken were +. I think suburbs of Orlando have stand alone LJSs but I doubt they lasted.
I agree
What do you guys get there? I tried my friends hush puppies once and they were delicious.
@@DavidLLambertmobile hell yea that place is the shit. We lost ours here in deland and now its a Captain Ds
We have 2 in our area both are good.
When he says what do you think of Long John Silver's you see a sign:
1$ tacos
mmmm... 1$ tacos
Their $1 fish tacos were the best!!
You know what’s even better than dollar tacos? Jack in the box 2 for a dollar tacos! 🤮
Man, my parents and I LOVED going to LJS. That fried fish was mouthwatering, the hushpuppies were to die for, and their chicken wasn't anything to scoff at either. I'm gonna miss going to this place...
This is one of my guilty pleasures, sometimes you just need stuff that’s bad for you but tastes oh so good.
Do a video on H-Salt, another fave of mine
They took away all the rope and wooden pilings from the entrance, and it’s been downhill ever since.
Mine near me still has theirs and going strong.
The rope pissed of black people so they did away with it.