Is Cloud Gaming the Future?
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2024
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The history of gaming is a wild one, but if the past is crazy what does the future bring? Could cloud gaming take over everything?
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Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod in HoI4 would be fun to see. Please? It would really make my day. =^x^=
The main issue with cloud gaming is that your internet needs to be extremely fast and extremely reliable. If you don't have the money for a budget pc or a console, you probably don't have money for the best internet connection money can buy. It'll probably be better in the future but right now we live in the present.
you dont need the best internet connection money can buy though, its not like they are streaming at 4k
@@wellsilver3972 I am Australian and probably biased by the fact that all of our ISPs suck rocks through 8 miles of bent pipes. But you can't buy internet that gives an equivalent experience to playing on your own hardware.
@@thatoneguywhoknittedthejim2912 yes
For non live multiplayer, slower games, cloud gaming isn't too bad
Nvm the issue of "I paid for this product, being unable to use the product I paid for due to not having an internet connection for a game that requires no internet connection makes literally negative sense." Bitching that Overwatch doesn't have an offline mode? Cope seeth muld. Pointing out that Hollow Knight needing an internet connection in order to play what you already purchased as correctly being rediculous considering there is no online component? Completely reasonable. Companies want to eliminate hard copies because it's a natural route to maintaining a level of decentralization. Decentralized = significantly more difficult to manipulate and control. Not impossible, but far from a simple phone call and a stern talking-to.
I fucking hope not, unless they're willing to fork over the money to overhaul my country's shitty internet infrastructure, I ain't having it.
Inshallah, robust internet infrastructure for everyone!
@@Piratewaffle43 Long live the users!
until latency disappears worldwide to every gamer, cloud-based gaming simply doesnt work. several cloud systems have already been tried and shut down. now, once everyone DOES have that kind of connectivity, then yeah it could work. i dont think the super high end FPS games will work well on it, because LAN is about the only lag you can deal with before the game simply doesnt work.
And even then there's a case for downloading games you don't want to play with an internet connection... I'm not playing stardew valley on the cloud during plane trip
5:00 “ASCII” is pronounced “Ask-key”. That is 2 “I” at the end. It stands for “American Standard Code for Information Interchange”.
F-cloud-based gaming I want to physically own my media outright.
My biggest thing is owning your games. Many subscription companies rely on you forgetting you had a subscription and paying them month to month without watching or playing anything. I'd say save your money and buy a gaming pc.
$240 a year, like a good gaming pc like the one they offering is like 1-2k (possibly more?) so like 10 years to get ur money's worth :>
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I generally hate the idea of cloud gaming. It would make it impossible for people to preserve games. It's nearly impossible to preserve games right now with games as a service. Between the lax consumer protections in the US, and a district court case making the end user license agreement function as a contract without being a contract legally - so eulas are not subject to contract law, it's easy for big game studios like EA to render games unarchivable, and unplayable even after purchase because they own a _part_ of your game. A part that they are not incentivized to release even when they can't maintain their part of the game because it's unprofitable to do so. Cloud gaming would make this situation even worse, and I'm not for it.
PS, I feel that this is a bit too close to a call to action, I don't have any prescriptions for how to solve this problem, but if you want to find people who care about this look for Louis Rossmann, and Ross Scott(Accursed Farms). The former focuses on hardware, and the latter focuses on games.
I’m a founder member of nVidia GeForce and I occasionally stream on twitch playing BF2042, DayZ,(heavily modded) and Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord on a potato pc using GeForce since 2021. It’s fire and the library is getting bigger.
The history of Gaming is something I am very happy to see talked about. I personally was born with a controller in my hand.
I've even played Nethack, one of the earliest, if not the earliest RPG game to be played on computers. Its also the grandfather to certain games like Diablo.
At my school, our math teacher set up the school server so we could play it at recess and it was one of the funnest times i have ever had with my friends and classmates.
Yes, but no.
We have no evidence that quantum computers can be minituarized to household items due to the unique conditions they need to provide the processing unit. So we're actually close to hitting the wall on personal devices while massive corporate servers will run off into infinity in a decade. Combined with increasing quality and affordability of everpresent cell and satellite internet access which would increase minimal speed in most areas, the future where more and more calculations are delegated away is basically obvious.
The questions are:
1)how far away we are?
2)will it result in drop of performance and increase in pricing of personal devices to promote cloud services and decrease consumer independence?
P.S.: as to what might require such a jump in performance, my guess is widespread usage of AI assistants. Which would also double up as explanation why corporations would be even more desperate to shank "independent" devices.
Until they fix the input lag some how getting negative lag (I have a 1Gb up and down and a ping 1 and a latency of 9-20) and they increase "8-Hour Session Length*" and they lower the price it is not for me. A good PC costs about $1k and a console costs about $500. They both last about 5+ years. so if you pay Nvidia Now $20 a month for 5 years that's $1200 and you have to get the games/ sub to games pass etc. anyway. Just buy a PS, xbox, or PC. If you buy a PC the games stay with you when you get a new 1. Also "remote play" there are free ways to do that and you get they same issue input lag.
Hell no fuck cloud gaming paying 10 or 20 dollars a month so you can play a few games is nuts
One of the many reasons i hate cloud gaming is the "games as a service" model. Large game corporations hate the fact that when you buy games, especially physical copies, that product essentially exists forever and keeps providing you value. They hate it because it means that their newest product has to compete with an ever expanding pool of products with no expiration. To them, the best game is one which can remove itself from your library when the newest one comes out. They can dress it up and give many excuses why it "must" happen, but this is the true goal for gaming titans: remove ownership. Games As A Service (GAAS) up until recently were mostly games with always online components that companies had to provide infrastructure for. Things like multiplayer focused games and MMO's. The service in this case can only continue as long as it is profitable, which is understandable, and many gamrs accept this reality. The problem is that the big companies are trying to bring the GAAS model to single player games, to areas of the gaming sphere with no need of network infrastructure. The recent Simcity game was an example of this. The game, despite having an "offline" mode always required a connection to the EA servers so the game was completely nonfunctional if your internet was bad, even the single player experience.
Cloud gaming is the next step. Now, you no longer need to build GAAS into the architecture of individual games. Now ALL games require internet and ALL games can be removed from access when they are "no longer able to be supported" and it just so happens that the next product release is around the corner.
Digital only games will be the end of gamers truly owning their own games.
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The selling point of nvidia is exactly the same as the failed stadia and every failed cloud gaming before.
About a quarter of the way through I realized it's not a deep dive, and that it's just a long-winded advertisement pretending to be a deep dive.
Should it be? No, for many reasons.
Will it be? Unavoidably and unfortunately so.
In my opinion it should definitely be.
Soon enough Internet speeds will end up becoming fast enough that latency may as well just disappear.
This will ensure that cloud gaming could work in a sense.
@@jaredjosephsongheng372True, but I still think there should be a choice whether you want you own your games. Video games should be preserved because many great games were ahead of their time.
I’m skeptical of this, we’ve seen streaming services remove shows at a whim and Sony removing purchased movies from devices. For a game I like I feel better with a physical copy or download
Reminds me of a story which happened a couple of years ago.
My friend bought Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne back in 2003, over a two decades ago (holy shit this makes me sound old). The disk, miraculously, is still fine and he was able to re-install the game.
Imagine his shock and horror, when he suddenly was forced to "upgrade" to Reforged version with zero say on his part. We all remember what a fucking disaster Reforged was, right? So, basically, he has a fucking physical copy of the game on his CD which he, mind you, bought legally and yet he is still forced to update it to the "remastered" version which is arguably a different product in of itself. What a scam.
Its like someone is getting you out of your favorite shirt and forcing you to wear the same exact shirt but with cut sleeves and a paint sprayed all over it
Here’s my take, steam is free to use and any game I buy I can play for as long as I want and as many times as I want. The subscription basically makes it so I would eventually be getting less value for what I’m paying for
I mean, for people in rich countries maybe, but places like Latin America, most of Africa the Middle East and South East Asia won't get these services in decades, maybe ever.
South East Asia includes places like Singapore, Taiwan, coastal China and indonesian megapolises. All of the places that are VERY rich and are the prime investors into any hi-tech toy that comes to the market.
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would be atrocious for preservation, we already have issues with delisted digital-only games, if we ever get to a point where cloud gaming is big a cloud gaming only release would happen
Did i just watch a 20 minute advertisement? Sure, it is nice to try things out, but i rather not play then have a monthly fee. Subscriptions are devaluing ownership
I dont know why my comment disappeared but ill post an abbreviated version here: Cloud gaming will destroy the concept of ownership for game copies.
In the hands of a morally-bound entity, cloud gaming could be an amazing option for increased public access to high-quality. Cloud gaming is not being pushed by morally bound entities. It is being pushed by corporations bound to their shareholders, and the concept of gamers owning a one-time purchased game forever is a roadblock to greater profit. It is money left on the table and making all games into a "Games As A Service" license is too lucrative for the greedy to pass up.
We already don't own much of the games we buy, most game discs only have part of the game and the rest is online.
If you really want to get a "real game" you'd have to get it DRM Free (legally, the only service I know that does this is GoG) and then burn it on some Blu rays.
So, you have age of history? You should make a video of suffering through that.
I tired the Nvidia Ultimate and I liked it. I stopped because playing multiplayer games was just good. I wouldn't mind picking it up again.
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Hi Stakuyi! If you think it'd be worth it, I think a playthrough of the Youjo Senki Redux mod in HoI4 would be fun to see. Please? It would really make my day. =^x^=
I generally really like your strategy game let's plays, but I'm sorry, this was not a great video. You started out with a very surface level explanation of the history of gaming in general which does not tie well with the central thesis of your video.
I was also disappointed with the very surface level explanation of the history of cloud gaming services. As someone who used OnLive back in the day, I was really hoping you'd talk more about it. It's pitfalls, successes etc. The section about the history of cloud gaming services seemed like it only existed so you could find an excuse to talk about GeForce now.
Also, I get that Nvidia probably had some restrictions about what you could talk about, but in a video titled "Is Cloud Gaming the future," it seems really strange to not cover other services. GeForce Now is probably the most successful game streaming service, but other companies are starting to give it a run for its' money. Xbox game pass ultimate, Amazon Luna, Shadow (which gives you access to an ENTIRE Windows PC) just to name a few.
Ultimately, I think this video needed a bit of retooling to make it a good summary of the state of cloud gaming. Perhaps instead of making this kind of video, you could have just recorded yourself messing around with GeForce now and talking about your experience.
Anyways. Sorry this comment was so critical. I generally really like your content and I'm looking forward to seeing what you make in the future!
I feel like it will be broken up by game complexity. High quality VR games or other games where refresh rate matters can’t be in the cloud. Most other games can.
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geniunely hope not, its just gonna be a way for companies to squeze and remove ownership from gamers
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Unless you want me to spend all my internet plan on gaming I don't think so... And I'm ABSOLUTELY not gonna pay for a game I can only play online...
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You can’t mod the games :( so installing amazing mods like LSPDFR on GTA 5 will be impossible with cloud gaming so…. Yeah idk.
I hope cloud gaming isn't the future. There is already a lot of corporate shenanigans around games. Cloud gaming gives them far more leverage against us.
Lol no, this kinda video would've been made when cloud gaming first started, nowadays no one uses it
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I’ve been using G force now forever! It’s such an affordable option when you have a pretty low power PC
No.
This is new from usual Hoi4 videos. I like the change, keep it up!
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It's inevitable. The tech needs to catch up. Once some genius can figure out how to stream all that data online and do it fast, it's over for hardware.
Btw I was first
yea with cloud gaming i actually use gefroce now i cant afford a decent pc at all
its nice it allows me to play stuff i would need to cop out lots of money to be able to play how ever its got issues
uh 1 you can have 5g internet if you aint got that government star link shit you may not get 100% buttery smooth other times itll run like its running on ur pc
and when it does its awesome BUT i worry about the political aspect the digitization of games to make it so you dont own your games infact not even on your pc i think its going to be largely pushed to ELIMINATE PHYSICAL COPIES OF GAMES not to get all claus shwab on any one but they want you TO OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY you own it you can play it but at the end of the day you dont even have a physical copy let alone can you run the digital on what you have games get larger and well people never think of it like this but that makes the game MORE EXPENSIVE TO RUN not every one has top of the line pc money and thats what makes it nice however its far to easy to also go mmmmmm no you dont own your fav game anymore i had Ubisoft literally take back my digital copy of Rainbow six Siege i no longer own it they wont get back to my email i no longer can play that or lets have a fake senerio you live in china and your social credit score mmm its dropping and now you cant play blank game bc its multiplayer and until you fix your behavior you dont get to play with others just a HEAD thy warning type shit its great i like it but we need to try an keep a physical game market still around steam and cloud gaming will kill the physical game market
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I dont know why my comment disappeared but ill post an abbreviated version here: Cloud gaming will destroy the concept of ownership for game copies.
In the hands of a morally-bound entity, cloud gaming could be an amazing option for increased public access to high-quality. Cloud gaming is not being pushed by morally bound entities. It is being pushed by corporations bound to their shareholders, and the concept of gamers owning a one-time purchased game forever is a roadblock to greater profit. It is money left on the table and making all games into a "Games As A Service" license is too lucrative for the greedy to pass up.
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@@stakuyi sorry stak. I kept checking and it looked like my comments were gone. Thank you.
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As someone playing fallout 3 on my mobile data since im without internet, give me a good connection and its really nice