The WORST Album Ever Made
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Hi! I hope you liked this video on The Shaggs and their album, Philosophy of the World. It's a really strange, confusing, messed up topic. But it ends on a happy note, I think? Which side of rock-and-roll history do you stand on? With Frank Zappa and Kurt Cobain? Or...most people, who would call this one of the worst albums ever made? - Hudba
In all fairness, his mother never said the band would be good. She just said they would have a band.
Actually she predicted they'd be the most popular band in America.
@@caseyspaos448 i mean cult status is something right
@@caseyspaos448 well they are kinda famous now
@@KellyKachowski I love your username
@@AA-vb7ru tanku anon
the only truly original album ever made, the girls had absolutely no outside influence.
That is very true -and no one ever seems to give him credit for that. It's a rare find indeed where you find music that has had no external influences. In fact future historians could see these albums as sociological and anthropological gold minds. To me, the music is like a young child's first finger painting -true and honest unencumbered by what somebody else might think.
I don't think we should credit or admire art like this, because then there would be more instances of people forcing their kids and kids not to explore their surroundings and the outside world.
Actually, this is obviously no special, any people could do this if I put you in an enclosure and force you to play instruments and sing with no knowledge of it. Any of them has no background in music, both playing instruments and singing. Objectively speaking, there are no solidified concepts, there is no specialization that is put effort into, there are no building techniques that cost you a lot of energy and thinking. It is just you randomly hitting different parts of instruments and your vocal cords to make different sounds. In my opinion, I would not encourage art like this. It is fascinating to hear something like this once in a while because it is new, but I would not.
There really are reasons why very few people appreciate it. Not only the sound, but the story behind the poor girls has caused them to be something like this.
@@archive2500 if you say so
@@christophertomasello1227 I actually agree, though the fact that they did something 100% original with no outside influence is still impressive. Sure, it’s still garbage, but they managed to figure out how to do that by themselves without any help and I think that’s really cute
Untrue. There are original albums, what are u on. Have you heard of the beatles?
This is the first time that I have ever heard a song played in the key of K.
Are you kidding me????.................It's obviously K#
@@lwpdhofgh technically they are, but since they de-tune a half step....
No no no...yall are all wrong. It's the key of Z
I was thing the void of space.
John, it's the key of Zzz
“The drummer isn’t with the Bass player!” “That’s okay, the drummer isn’t even with the drummer!!!”
ha ,,brilliant comment,,,as many are on this thread,,,this music just makes for witty retorts,,
I hate it when that happens lol
There was no bass player, for the most part.
@@theunrealtimemm Nor a singer, nor a drummer, nor a guitar player.
@@theunrealtimemm no bass player?? didn't think there were any players
I like that he never thought giving them lessons was a reasonable step in his plan.
I don’t know if it is fate or what but I guess the fortuneteller was right and it all worked out in the end
It's a reasonable step. But if they had lessons...would they be the shaggs we all know and love? Or some, one hit wonder that blends in with all the other bands?
It's gotta be said, the father was right. They did grow up to be famous musicians. A lot of people have heard and respect their album.
They did take lessons, at Ted Herbert's in Manchester NH. I was friends with both of the engineers who did their albums. The first one was done at Fleetwood Studio in Revere Mass. I forget the name of their second album but it had a cover of "Paper Roses" on it, and they added their sister Rachel on bass. I caught them at the Bowery Ballroom back in '99 (?) when they did a 2-nighter with NRBQ. Helen wasn't there, Terry Adams played drums. I heard there were people who came from Japan and Australia to see them. A friend's wife used to babysit Helen's kids.
Edit update- I just did a search on the engineer of their second album "Shagg's Own Thing" and he died Jan 5, 2020. I last saw him about 15 years ago and he spoke of the Shaggs in the kindest possible way but with a chuckle.
Were you paying attention? It was Prophesied! No lessons needed.
Still better than any Rap Music!
We're still talking about them in 2019. The prediction was correct.
@Triscuit H It sounds like their dad did everything he could to ensure that all of his mother's predictions came true, not just the part about the band.
Cory Thompson Cobain took Plastic Ono Band and ran with it.
Thank you
I'm telling you! Lol. In an age of the Partridge family and the Monkees, they could have easily been cleaned up and marketed to the masses
Sure was
My broke friend owed me 20$. I told him I would forgive the debt if he listened to The Philosophy of Life in its entirety in one constant sitting. He did it. I forgave the 20$ and gave him a pack of smokes as a bonus.
Good man.😎
You are good and decent human being. BRAVO !!
@@burtonwilliams5355 Thank you . Not everyone thinks that but I try.😇
I hope you gave him a valium as well. Lol.
Was that their follow-up to this?
I put this album in my truck and listened to nothing else for a month in the 90s, then went to Trout Mask Replica. I can now hear colors and see time.
what does time look like?
@@onyx747 Steve Buscimi on a jet ski
I see Owen Wilson on the jet ski, but I've got a big gunk of sleep in the corner of my third eye.. So...
So "Why do I have to be Pink" ?
Another Trout Mask Replica reference. Well, that's very smoke stack of you.
Somewhere in parallel universe, this album was the most succesfull album of all time
Nutted Wazowski .-.
Parallel universe? No, it’s THIS universe. Have you even heard “My Pal Foot Foot”???
"Parallel universe" = Frank Zappa's mind.
Exactly so, where they became far bigger than the Beatles.
Dude, do you even "Foot Foot"?
It sounds like their dad forced them to make music without ever letting them hear music in the first place
That's sort of true. He didn't want 'outside influences". Kind of a red flag.
thats why its so great. ,,in a weird way ,,
@@curbmassa other people’s music dilutes creativity.
@@zhivix8263 Speak for yourself.
A less violent Joe Jackson. Except these kids had zero talent.
Just listening to 30 seconds of "My pal Foot Foot" it sounds like a few jazz musicians got really, really, drunk, broke their fingers and THEN recorded an album......OUTSTANDING
"I have never heard that combination of sounds before...." My EXACT words in 1980, fourteen seconds before my 1958 Buick Roadmaster burst into flames in the middle of US Rt 30. 😜
lol this is so random, I love it.
@@JustinTimeForParties 👍😊👍
The way you worded that made me think that you were listening to the album in the car and it caused your Buick to spontaneously combust
@@mtchcrtrmm9299 Worse, It was "Disco Duck" 😳😂
@@jamesslick4790 Oh that's much worse.
Ah, "The Room" of albums
I thought that was Angelic 2 the Core
@@ThatOneGuy7550 Nah it's Trout Mask Replica
Best analogy ever.
The "oh hi mark" of bands
Dad is literally the Tommy Wiseau
Bennett Christensen that would be Angelic 2 The Core by Corey Feldman
1 hotel California
2 stairway to heaven
3 freebird
4 my pal foot foot
5 bohemian rhapsody
c'mon man, BoRhap needs to be up higher
@@ameri-canpickerz3480 ok,my pal foot foot 3..bohemian rhapsody 4.
Beatles?
@@-xxxuchihacion-3318 then my pal foot foot's moving up to #2.
@Jaden LaFrance I got that at #8.
What surprises me about this is how coherent the whole thing is. Given that they wrote the song themselves without any outside influence or help and without even knowing how to play any of their instruments the fact that they created something that sounds even remotely like music is amazing. I feel like if they had gotten lessons they would have been pretty good
All three girls knew how to play their instruments. The were just unconventional.
The album does have an innocent charm.
Indeed.
I'd say the opposite. It has a sort of dark tone to it
@@CrabSullyI think both things can be true. I love this album it sounds like how being a weird little 11 year old girl felt lol
“The only band talented enough to play 3 songs at the same time” - Commenter
yeah ,spot on ,ha ha
That’s how jazz sounds to me🤭
@@mangot589That depends. There’s slow jazz/jazz blues which is in key and played in unison. If you’re referring to improvisation in jazz, more likely a more faster, up-tempo song, then it’s usually the sax solo or the piano solo.
Bahahaha
@@_PuppetMaster86 hey I think you inadvertently hit on something - there is a jazz improv element to their music - wow - thanks for the eye opener!
Their music kinda sounds like a Guitar Store on a Saturday afternoon
Sotsu as someone who likes to frequent places like Guitar Center, I can confirm this.
FACTS
Or pretty much any music band warming up before they start playing.
Also, I have an art project: some beatnick should have brought a dictophone to a music instrument store, record like 5 hours of footage of people trying the instruments, and then remix it into a studio album. Maybe even add some deep as spoken word lyrics.
Lmao
This sounds familiar to another comment on a video of their full album...
One part of the prophecy he ignored, the daughters will form a band. The demise started when he formed the band by pulling them out of school and not teaching them anything. They would have learned about so much, maybe music theory and how to play instruments. Writing songs, you just do or you don’t.
- Dad, who's gonna play the bass?
_ What's a bass? it doesn't matter now, we got no money left
eventually another sister, Rachell, came on to play bass
"YOKO! ITS YOUR COUSIN MARVIN - MARVIN ONO. I GOT THAT 'NEW SOUND' YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. LISTEN!"
Yoko's Reply: Ooooooooohffhhguoooooooooookjhtgeexvgeeeeeeeeeerroooooooooggt(at the top of her lungs, naturally)
ROTFLMAO! ! Classic! !
😆😆😆
Marvin, how could you? czcams.com/video/HdZ9weP5i68/video.html
See her response live. You can skip the first 15 seconds if you want to get straight to the agony.
Nice
Why does it sound like they are singing backwards?
Because they *ARE*
You're listening backwards.
Darth Irae because they are that bad.
They're singing ? I thought that was foot foot getting ran over
Heavy NH accents, and no harmony
Definitely NOT the worst album ever made. These girls invented their own form of music.
Chalkboard rock
James Holbrooks that’s a great name for the genre lol
@@TheJordanPayne yeah, it just kinda popped in my head and I thought the same thing
@@yamomsballs I really like that name lol
Yes it is. Not even debatable. This music is the most deplorable crap ever.
To get to even any level of musical understanding without having any training is really impressive. Not only that kids were writing their own songs, but if you listen to the music it does show a hint of progress. Like if a parent bought their kid an instrument, had no musical knowledge and said "Eh... I guess try to do something with this" and that kid came back a few months later sounding like this, it would be seen as progress
by forcing his daughters into this life he fulfilled the prophecy, super interesting
By doing what the project said, he fulfilled the prophecy
To me that's the really weird part
Would he have forced his daughters into pop bands if his mother had never told him that prophecy?
Like Mr. Glass in Unbreakable.
You could say it was a
*ahem*
Self-fulfilled prophecy.
This just proves if anyone picks up an instrument and starts playing, someone will like it
damn you hitting those keys on you're computer just really hits home for me
kinda like icp
Just look at AntiSeen....
I play, but even I don't like my playing.
Strange, experimental, and even raw stuff can be good. Yet, it seems kind of just messed up when it's a group of teenage girls being told to make music by their father.
Some years ago when they were gaining their cult status, someone organised a reunion gig for them. One of them (I think the drummer) fell ill, but the other two performed. Because they hadn't played in so long, they had to get the sheet music out to remind them how to play the songs.
Sheet music?
Yeah, but like no sheet music you've ever seen before. Not only did they have to learn how to play instruments by themselves, and write songs with no training, they also had to invent their own system of music transcription in order to document it.
Philosophy of The World is brilliant in its purity and sincerity. All these artists that come from music colleges and trying to figure out a way in which they can be "weird" and never pull it off because it's so contrived, and here were three girls that had to essentially invent music from the ground up.
Imagine giving a child a bunch of metal parts and telling them that they're not to come out of their room until they've built a more efficient form of combustion engine, when they've never even held a spanner before.
Great points. This is as pure as music gets. I’m captivated by it when I’m listening. I wouldn’t say I’m enjoying it but it’s engaging in a way that 99% of what’s on the radio every day will never be engaging.
I saw that video but i thought the sheet music was because everyone was playing a different song and they didn't want to accidentally play the same note or chord or be in the same key
"Worst album ever" still better than cardi b🙃
Bruh
Correct
Well, at least no worse. ;-)
Agreed
“nEw mUsIK bAd, nEw mUsIK bAd, “
the drummer consistently sounds like she's playing a completely different song
Right.its like a song playing over a different song but it hasn't faded completely in or something.
It sounds like shes chasing a cockroach around the drumhead.
At least She was good
Partially, that was a function of how the girls practiced. They were made to do drills and exercises with their respective instruments, but they weren't really taught to play together, which is kind of the whole point of having a band.
"It's so cold in the D"
Band is booed at every live performance. Next step: record an album. Makes sense.
Well he wanted to get them “while they were hot”. That’s a sign of a good producer lol
Well, in fairness, the original Alice Cooper band was also kicked off the stage regularly in their early years, so...
But yeah, this is ghastly.
Worked for alice cooper
But haven’t we all been there? I think so. 😆
@@Ken_Brooks
Alice Cooper couldn't make it in Arizona and Southern California. They went to Detroit and found a better musical climate.
Ok - this is the kinda story that scares the SH*T outta me, because it's so disturbing and unsettling. I may have trouble sleeping tonight...
The prophecy actually did come true.
It's 2021 and I knew who you were going to talk about without even pressing play. Well played, Shaggs.
Growing up as a punk rocker in the 80's, my friends and I all had copies of their album. It was horribly great
Petey Poodles
yeah!!!!,,,, that is exactly what i was thinking. They fitted the complete philosophy of punk . But i cant help but think there was more to what they were doing than meets the eye.. or "ear" if you will i mean "ode to dots missing and twice amputated cat", come on..... no one who is not aware of what they're doing comes up with titles like that..... you just try coming up with somthing so completly subversive and uneque, and this was in the early 70s remember post modernism hadent yet got a foot hold in meanstream popular culture yet
Were you also a fan of Flipper?
“I did not hit her... I DID NAHHHTT. Oh hi, Foot-Foot.”
BWAAA-HA-HA-HA--HA - Bad movie meets bad album. I love it. (Now I wish I had a copy)
This band is just The Room of music.
YOU’RE TEARING ME APART SHAGGS
Philosophy of The Room
Foot-Foot, you're my favorite cat.
i didn't know the whole backstory to this band. i thought they were just random girls having fun who everyone decided to shit on. the backstory makes this so much sadder actually.
They have an authenticity that is hard to find.
For a REASON...
Or endure...
It sounds as though they got off on the wrong "foot foot".
Bruce Gordon 😂
@@stephpicherThey still got some notoriety anyway, even though it wasn't for their musical talent.
Bruce Gordon I'm screaming 🤣💀
@@skinni_the_P00hBear Yes, their music was good, it made the crowds scream for more.
😅😅😅😅😅😅
The Shaggs is a terrible name for a band of young girls
Their father gave them that name because of their long 'shaggy' hair. And this was the 1960's.
@ Austin Powers aside, I'm not entirely sure that shag meant 'to have sex with' in the UK in the '60s. I think that's probably more from the '80s onward.
@@charleslipscomb2567 he was still strange
No lad, I was a teen in the 60s and shag definitely meant having sex.
I'm not gonna argue with that
I actually really like the drum intro on Foot Foot
It's brilliant.
"I've never heard a band sound like that before."
I've never heard a guitar player fall down a flight of stairs with his guitar but I'd guess it would sound similar to the Shaggs.
Well, I mean, they became popular, so the prophecy is true.
Actually
We’re talking about them now.
Pantsmode i had prophecy that you will leave this comment
I want to know if she made any other prophecies
If you predict that you'll make a sandwich and then you make a sandwich, that's not fulfilled prophecy. He spent years trying to make them a popular band, and they're still pretty obscure, they're more popular for being an oddity than for their music
Trout Mask Replica: Kids Bop Edition.
Angelic 2 the Core before Angelic 2 the Core was a thing
this was released exactly one day before trout mask replica
Literally all I could hear
Sport1022 kids bop should cover cannibal corpse
I CAN NOT GO BACK TO YOUR FROOOWWN LAAANDD
The fact that the Wikipedia page immediately has the band questioning why this album retroactively became popular as indie music is hilarious.
Dude it's like 3 am and I just listened to the song and now I feel haunted
Didn’t expect Kurt to be involved in this story
Cobain was a huge fan of Daniel Johnston, who was more mainstream sounding than the Shaggs but similar. It's among the most purely innocent music there is./
He loves to play 4 chords just like the shaggs
@@Broccoli75 wait...the Shaggs were playing chords??
@@patdonnelly9392 yes but their hand is still soft to press those sharp string that's why it doesn't sound clear
Because he died?
when you played snippets of the tracks and i felt like i was having a stroke
This is literally the best comment
@@xanadu194 BY FAR!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@xanadu194 Which is the best figuratively? Metaphorically? Virtually? C'mon, help me out here.
Oh, dear God, MAKE IT STOP!
This album is great! Please give it a shot. Unique songs and arrangements, brilliant. To be bad, or "THE WORST", it would need to have ZERO points of interest, but we are still talking about it to this day.
What's more, it's utterly unpretentious.
"Laughing" about it to this day?
sure, that counts. @@johannjohann6523
Plot twist: They cleaned up themselves and their skills on the instruments and changed their name into 'The Runaways'.
This was really interesting. Never heard about the Shaggs before. Cheers!
Lie Likes Music A Great channel. With the sad death of Mark Hollis maybe you will examine Talk Talk. Cheers Mate ! 😎
Oh hey, Lie!
Wait, he died?! I didn’t even know that, rip.
You seem to be a popular uploader. How's about doing a video on 'understanding the Residents'. They are the greatest avant garde band of all time, better than 'The Shaggs' were. Most rewarding intelligent music ever. Here's their 1st album 'Meet The Residents' .. czcams.com/video/vsGRasyHEEg/video.html
This Heat and Cardiacs as well. Do you know about these great pioneering unknown bands?
Sounds like the earliest form of a shitpost that got trendy
This video is always one of the first to pop up whenever I search anything related to Merzbow
I've both been to the town they're from and biked by the studio where they recorded the album, it's quite cool to have been so near to such an important piece of history.
Was the place called Tabby Road ?
I doubt it’s worse than Total Xanarchy
J Masters total Xanarchy is the worst kind of bad. It's not even memorably bad, it's just forgettable, boring, and unlistenable. It somehow exists but doesn't exist. It's interchangeable with any other low tier SoundCloud rapper, as if he was drawn out of a hatful to be the one that gets attention.
J Masters - Lil Xan looks like he drools excessively.
they’re entirely different kinds of bad
Nah, not so bad
I can think of 3 artist that worst than this one.
Moral of the story : Songs that are considered "weird" now will be considered "fascinating" and "unique" after some years
Oh shit 100 Gecs is gonna be seen as fascinating and unique in the future
@@federalgamingagency5019 even these guys..yeah
The moral of the story is that talent can come from anywhere. And it doesn't have to stay confined in your pre conceived notions to be great. The Shaggs had that certain something that was unique and could not be confined by the limitations of commercial standards. It's the passion and the desire to express certain thoughts and feelings that comes out in spite of their lack of structural music theory.
No, the real moral story is no matter how much talent nor how much do you wanna be succesfull with something either, if you dont start with the basics you just dont get nowhere.
@@sebastianrivas5274 They did get somewhere though. Frank Zappa listed this as one of his favorite albums in a Playboy interview. I would call that getting somewhere.
i love how "random composition" this actually is
It's inspirational so truly bizarre, I only wish I had heard it when I was a kid in the early seventies listening to my sisters albums by bands like Queen ( who I loved then and still do ) but I'd have had a band together. I have a reissue of this album and I love it but I'll probably never know why.
Kurt Cobain and Frank Zappa listened to the Shaggs... Tbh that actually explains a lot (they weren’t bad, both were amazing).
Did you just feel the need to clarify that Kurt Cobain and Frank Zappa were not bad musicians?
Justin Davis Yeah, because I didn’t want to come off as insulting two legends.
@@thisissparta789789 Yeah I figured, just thought it was pretty funny is all. Cheers.
Knowing Kurt and Zappa's musical philosophies, I'm pretty sure they liked The Shaggs solely because they were unconventional. Honestly though, I like them too.
@@Seantendo Are we absolutely positive that Zappa's and Cobain's assertions that they like them are, indeed, testimonials and not apologies?
So what your saying is the palm reading was 100% correct?
Quadrenaro We need to find that lady
Josh it’s a joke u nut
Josh we’ll use a ouija board to contact her from beyond
Eh, more like 99% but close enough
I feel like he lived his life to be accurate to the reading. He was told he'd marry a strawberry blonde? He sought after strawberry blondes. He'd have two sons after his mother died? He and his wife had kids until he had two sons. I feel like it was mostly accurate because he made it accurate.
This is surely one the most original, startling and uncanny albums ever made, and therefore one of the greatest. As mentioned in the TLS 'Philosophy of the World' achieves a 'transcendental strangeness'. Truly great music opens doors to sounds and experiences and states of mind you could never imagine under either normal or abnormal circumstances - how many other albums out there could claim the same? We're not talking about 'so bad it's good' - which has become a trivial catchphrase to excuse cult junk - we're talking about something 'so magnificently 'itself' we don't know what to think.' We have to stand with Carla Bley on this: The Shaggs 'bring my mind to a complete halt.'
Came here looking for a Nickelback album and end up finding something decent.
The craziest thing about this story I find, is that the palm reader's prediction actually came true.
To be fair he purposely married someone of that hair color, and purposely started the band. But I guess having exactly 2 sons and 2 daughters out of 4 kids might be a little crazy? Idk most of it was basically instructions
Power of suggestion...it's all baloney really...these folk are charlatans, they just say what they think people want to hear...it's like the astrology nonsense, so generalised it could be anyone in the world...think about this, if psychics can predict the future, why are none of them insanely rich?
@@backfloop Not to mention his mother dying after the birth of their two sons as she predicted.
@@deviantmoore9744 I’m sure he is fully aware of when his own mother died. He could’ve easily just waited to have kids until after. The prediction wasn’t what you thought it was, it was actually that the sons would be born after his mother’s death.
So did the Witches’ prophecy in Macbeth. What’s your point?
Feel like death grips would sample this
Yes.
Yes
Thats funny, listen to Zach Hills album "Necromancer" Its literally him musically interpreting the story of this band, its one of the craziest things youll ever hear.
*Yes*
Fun fact: both Death Grips' and The Shaggs record label is Third World Records, surprisingly.
I died laughing when I heard "My Pal Foot Foot". Then I stumbled on to a "Shaggs Tribute Band" who tried to recreate the mayhem. AND FINALLY .. someone posted a Shaggs Karaoke version of Foot Foot: czcams.com/video/4GTGvsEahIU/video.html
Am now convulsing on the floor ... please help me, I can't breath! 🤣
I'm glad you mentioned that Foot Foot was a cat. I always thought it was her imaginary friend or some strange person she knew that went missing. This explains much.
Did anybody feel some anxiety kick in as soon as the music was played.
I think kurt cobain did, maybe that's why he liked this so much
Murcia doxial some would say it blew him away
@@murciadoxial8056 It has they punky shit I don't care attitude with it. Maybe this helped pioneer punk.
It makes me feel better about playing bass pretty poorly because I know I’m at least not as bad this.
WhosMans? I Did
Okay, I'm back, after having listened to Philosophy of the World. The most baffling thing is that the guitar work, drums, and vocals aren't even THAT bad individually, they're just mashed together like a fruit salad made exclusively of meat.
Shark Sandwich ?
Yeah, it's pretty weird. I think there actually is some merit to the album musically. Like some of the drumming (the opening of My Pal Foot Foot) or the way that they will play the guitar to the exact same notes that they're singing (though it doesn't really sound "good"). I think they just kind of messed around with their instruments until they found something that they liked, which kind of makes it a valid piece of experimental music, just much less mature and thought out.
My unlce told me to turn it off once I started blasting it in the living room. He was born deaf btw.
Dylan Slye Oh I thought you said ‘Okay, I’m black’
Dylan Slye LOL...a fruit salad made of meat.
The more I follow them, the more convinced I am that this is one of the most hilarious musical jokes of all time. The backstory of their creation, the lyrics, instruments, the "music," it's got to be a gag and a brilliant one at that. Sort of like those hilarious jokes that come around, where no one knows who thought it up, but whoever he was deserves an award.
Are you thinking in terms of Spinal Shag ?
I grew up near Dot. I had friends in Freemont. Onlu took 30 years but Freemont to Plaistow area had it's own little hardcore scene in the 1990s.
Sounds like Phoebe buffay was heavily influenced by them.
Sam Deck lmao
Maybe she is one of them. Think about it.
Sam Deck 😂
Sam Deck Bro....😨
Phoebe can at least pretend to harmonize with her guitar.
It’s definitely a interesting part of music history, especially being released in 1967 when rock was really booming with experimentation
Recorded and released in 1969 not ‘67.
Pet Sounds and Sgt Pepper's lonely hearts club band
Pet Sounds was 1966.
@@shanewright2772 *o k*
They could've been great if they dad just, hired a music teacher to teach them after school. Maybe pushed them into joining school band. Instead of just handing them a guitar
When I first listened to this album I'd already heard it was supposed to be the worst album ever. But, I ended up listening to it all the way through, fascinated and endeared by somethnig it expresses.
The crazy thing is, the prophecy came true and in the end they did end up becoming a popular band
Damn
i kinda like (for the lack of a better term) the fact the prophecy didn't come true thank to their father but thank to the weirdos who legitimately appreciate this kind of music. Their father was an asshole trying to brute force said prophecy. Indirectly, he was sabotaging this band. That makes the prophecy even more onimous. There was literally no way this project could work in theory yet it did it in the long term.
@@miserirken or perhaps while HE was alive?
They're not popular...
Squire Muldoon one of their songs has 1.2 million views on CZcams. I guess they’re not mainstream popular but among music lovers they’re pretty well known
@@johnw6956 Yeah....well known for being complete crap
The guitar just sound like she hit random strings with her foot foot
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Frank Zappa loved this album, and the guys in NRBQ did as well.
So how did you get your info regarding any of this? I seriously doubt you gathered any first hand accounts for most of what you related ...haven't heard or read any other accounts that align with much of what you said.
If the father would've given them more time before throwing them in the fire, they could've had great synergy and potentially make great music.
"potawatandingrlong" probably
potawatadingdong or actually let them hear music, get lessons to learn vocals, guitar and drums and music theory. They could’ve actually sounded better.
It's a shame. If their father gave them time to practice they could have been more successful.
@@wintershock No number of years of listening to music, taking lessons to sing and/or play instruments, and learning music theory will mean anything to anybody who isn't already innately talented, and blessed with the musical gifts and abilities to begin with. Oh yeah, and actually WANTING to create music when and if they ARE talented.
Wrong. They recorded again and it was sub-average and boring. The music was much tighter and rehearsed. It sucked. The album is a classic and the only way it could have been better is if he made them go in earlier.
This is like the SpongeBob episode where Patrick’s poem gets recorded at a studio
Oh, you mean...
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Tbh patrick's poem is better than this monstrosity
Writting stuff is hard so i use a pointy pencil
@@natestern2021 pointy, pointy, pointy. Pointy, pointy, point.
@@rosieleaverton P U, what’s that horrible smell?
One day I listened to the entire album. I laughed, I cried a little, I felt like a heavy weight was on my chest and it me hurt. Very special.
This is how punk really started
This is what happens when you force someone to do something they don't want to do.
You get the Shaggs.
But I genuinely love this album. Like no sarcasm or fooling I genuinely love this record.
@@medes5597 Same. It's awesome and not in a "it's soo bad is awesome" kind of way. 86 out of 100 on metascore too
Then maybe it should be done MORE often as this album is a classic.
Or the Jackson 5.
The recording engineer actually did a good job.
I'm not sure if it's the sound engineer that says, "take two", before one of the tracks; but someone does. An odd inclusion on this album of "out of time" music (or any album really) but clearly "take one" just wasn't good enough ... Maybe it's a joke, including the editing on the final cut; but I laughed so much hearing that.
Maybe music that won't follow the metronome is the "Philosophy of the World"; and it's us that don't get it? It's certainly a remarkable album; full of naive music so I'm glad someone remarked on it.
How can you even tell??!!
I agree. The drums sound amazing.
lulled me in with the intro,then G D!
I wasn't ready for this
It is a formative influence on my own music, especially the drumming. I love the idea that drums can add rhythmic excitement while being completely independent of any other element. The idea that melodies can violate implicit harmonic rules like tonic- dominant and still carry emotional meaning is also compelling. If you love the Shaggs for MUSICAL reasons like I do, check out Charles Ives, especially his Fourth Symphony, and of course Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart.
Seriously, no. Now if the album was advertised as "comedy" then maybe it would have a place for entertainment.
@@johannjohann6523 each to their own.
Oh yeah. Ives 4th is an old fav of mine.
They also had no bassist.
Gotha 229a Their 4th/youngest sister played bass on one song on the first album, then on every song on the second album.
OriginalGrasshopper I thought they only made one album
@@Finn_the_Cat There's a second album where they played way better. Its called "Shaggs own thing".
Geddy Lee sat in with them for a session. Ten bucks is ten bucks. (+5 points for knowing the reference)
The very least the dad could've done for the these girls is get them some music lessons, so they at least have a rudimentary understanding of music....like rhythm, timing, etc.
"Philosophy Of The World" holds a special place in my heart. To me, it is NOT the worst album ever made, even though it's not what most people would call well-written or well-performed. My sister once used it to get rid of guests that wouldn't leave. My best friend laughed for 30 minutes straight when I played him the record. Fond memories! I like trying to lip-sync to "My Pal Foot Foot", it's the hardest thing to do. I love the thudding tom beat on "It's Halloween". "Things I Wonder" just has the greatest opening. I love "That Little Sports Car", the only song on here featuring a bass guitar, with its final climax of repeating "Never Do Wrong"s, going up in one mode and coming down in an entirely other one. The sisters seem to sing flat or sharp on a whim, but they're doing it TOGETHER. This music, my friends, has been PAINSTAKINGLY REHEARSED. At least I think it was. Sometimes it reminds me of some secret language developed by twins.
When I first listened to The Shaggs in 1990, I also listened to a lot of jazz, hiphop, cabaret, pop and rock. To me it seemed like they had smashed a whole record shop and then assembled shards of many different vinyls in a primitive, naive and original way. Even though it's not an easy listen for everyone, I like the Shaggs' perspective. And I am a person who likes well-crafted, well-performed songs in general.
EDIT: when I first got the internets at home in 1996, guess what my first research on Altavista was about? Yep, that's right. I wanted to know whether I was the only person on the planet to dig The Shaggs. And it turned out I wasn't! Haters gonna hate, but lovers gonna love.
It’s not an album I can get mad at. It’s not a project I can ever forget or is soulless. I get more mad at how Austin treated his daughters. No wonder he got compared to Murray Wilson.
I also laughed 30 minutes straight when I first heard the album, and I kept laughing for the rest of the day whenever I thought about it. In fact, I still laugh when I think about it. I can't say any other album has had quite that impact. It has its place and I'm glad it was made.
You're sister is a GENIUS! I'm gonna get a copy of The Shaggs now. You don't know how many times I've had "unwanted" guests in my home (loser friends of friends) and I never could come up with a way to get rid of them without coming across an "asshole". This is perfect! Thank You! (seriously).
Interesting. In the 1960s there was a New Haven, CT-area band called the Shags (one 'g') that was popular and did well. It wasn't until years later that I learned that "shag" was British slang for sex, and not necessarily a reference to long hair. I don't know where the Shaggs got their name, but I suspect the Shags of New Haven were spoofing audiences with the biggest joke of the decade.
Daniel Johnson. Very early Velvet Underground. Very early Pink Floyd. The experiments of the Beatles. The list goes on and on. Fact is: This kind of music has what no "professional" music has: unpredictability, spontaneity, deviation from million-times-heard, and a "newnness" up to a point where it seems to be "fractal". You hear things that are unique and will stay unique forever. Thanks for the tip.
I find this album strangely listenable, except “My Pal Foot Foot,” which honestly sounds like a nightmare.
the nightmare is what makes it a vibe tho
the title track is unironically enjoyable
"It's halloween" is the only song with a resemblance of a beat.
I don't know why he said they only released one album though, there's one more.
I'd recommend listening to "Yesterday once more"
@@antonstrandberg3013 That's The Carpenters.
Who thought my pal foot foot was a good name
Foot foot.
The two legged cat.
Its about the only thing that does make sense about this....
Me
I'm guessing Dot.
Quentin Tarantino.
Was expecting this to be about Trout Face Replica but this was a (un)pleasant surprise
I recently read a remastered 5.1 mix is in the works. Including demos!
Wait really?!
By the worst album ever made, I think you mean “avant- grade masterpiece”
More listenable than Trout Mask Replica for me
i really hope this is a joke. people who actually think this are just being contrarian because it thinks it makes them cool or whatever. the album is objectively bad. they couldn’t even play their own instruments
But The Beatles had the best song ever called "Revolution 9".
@@biprilly typical postmodernist nihilistic drivel.
@@scummymilk4622 It's called punk, check it out sometime when you're done throwing around twenty five cent words like "contrarian" and "objectively".
You have to listen to the notes they AREN’T playing.
Like i'm in a room with my mother-in-law
Ah, therein live the precious melodies.
@Coldern Ice It'll go great in my collection, next to my Oral Roberts LP. I can't play it. Ask me why. ................Because the hole in the middle keeps healing up.
Just pissed myself! LOL!!!
There in lies the song.
theres a group called the godz (new york band) couldnt play any instruments but went on to record 9 albums .
they got better over time a bit .
That cat couldn't hobble away fast enough.
This is Greek tragedy level shit tbh, believing in prophecies and such
It all came true though
I mean, would it kill him to put them in guitar and drums lessons? Poor girls 😂
What?That they ended up w/a following
w/100 copies.
I'd say it is bordering on the miraculous
Dad should have dropped $5 on a chord chart.. Lol!!!
But then they would have been so bad and hence so good.
Never laugh at your own joke. NEVER!!
Ben V>> Red Skelton made a 60-year career out of doing it.
Harlan Mote or $45-60 to get them to learn their instruments.
I read somewhere that the studio sound engineers had to go outside of the building to not be seen laughing out loud during the recording of this album.
Fun.
Good presentation.
Thanks. 👍