Most common types of MEDIEVAL CLOTHES or garments: MEDIEVAL MISCONCEPTIONS

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  • A detailed breakdown of male and female medieval garments, their names, definitions, differences, and misconceptions. This video covers the Shirt, Chemise, Tunic, Bliaut, Herigaut, Houppelande, Surcoat, kirtle, Jupon, Gambeson, Tabard, Monastic Scapula, Cotehardie and Doublet.
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  • @DanielGreeneReviews
    @DanielGreeneReviews Před 4 lety +1902

    Holy smokes! Thanks Shad! Appreciate the shout out!

    • @shadiversity
      @shadiversity  Před 4 lety +257

      My pleasure mate, you deserve it!

    • @snuppssynthchannel
      @snuppssynthchannel Před 4 lety +23

      I realized i have watched your video on Princess Mononoke, and loved it. Not surprising that Shad brought your channel up like this. I decided to subscribe to your channel, now that i know that vid was by you.

    • @jaredblair5436
      @jaredblair5436 Před 3 lety +6

      This is an awesome shout out! Love both y'all's channels!

    • @SteveWhipp
      @SteveWhipp Před 3 lety +6

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    • @greenlandabuji7263
      @greenlandabuji7263 Před 3 lety +1

      No need to sayj
      H**** Jesus is king

  • @darkblood626
    @darkblood626 Před 4 lety +1500

    Movie makers "Huh, interesting" 'goes back to ordering studded leather for the costume department'

  • @rattusrattus761
    @rattusrattus761 Před 4 lety +1084

    Perhaps "dress-like garment" should be the equivalent of "sword-like weapon".

    • @Kalleosini
      @Kalleosini Před 4 lety +23

      hahaha I love it

    • @Solrex_the_Sun_King
      @Solrex_the_Sun_King Před 4 lety +4

      I love that!

    • @sagebuchanan9725
      @sagebuchanan9725 Před 4 lety +18

      Surprised Shad hasn't liked this

    • @beardedbjorn5520
      @beardedbjorn5520 Před 4 lety +5

      Efap crossover memes!

    • @Draco_WarriorEX
      @Draco_WarriorEX Před 4 lety +16

      More accurately: "Bladed Weapon", since that would include, knives, swords, machetes, spears, won dow (however that's actually spelled...), Sais, Scythes, Sickles, Scissors, etc...

  • @hollyhartwick3832
    @hollyhartwick3832 Před 3 lety +640

    While wearing a dress in winter, I’ve had men ask “aren’t you cold?” or “how can you wear that in this weather?” You addressed the answer to that perfectly. A dress traps heat like a tent.

    • @veronicawexel1291
      @veronicawexel1291 Před 3 lety +102

      To that we say "I'm wearing a blanket, how are *you* not cold".

    • @hollyhartwick3832
      @hollyhartwick3832 Před 3 lety +32

      @@veronicawexel1291 - Too true. I’m always throwing on warm things like jumpers and blankets and my husband will say “is it warm in here?” Not to me, no.

    • @coryc8819
      @coryc8819 Před 2 lety +4

      Do wear something to cover your ankles?

    • @hollyhartwick3832
      @hollyhartwick3832 Před 2 lety +20

      @@coryc8819 - Usually tall boots with warm socks under. I’ve waited for rides to more formal events in heels, but that’s only a few minutes at worst, and not when there’s snow. This was when I was living in New England, so it could get pretty cold, but a warm core is key. I live in Texas now and winters aren’t a big deal here.

    • @jacqslabz
      @jacqslabz Před 2 lety +6

      Unless it's made out of thin material and there's a strong wind.... those morning waiting for the bus made me feel like I was naked from the waste down. Though those were a thin poly thing, so that's my fault for not wearing 2-3 thick wool skirts.

  • @ScaryMeadow
    @ScaryMeadow Před 3 lety +232

    I'm loving this because in Norwegian, "dress" is a men's suit, while "kjole" is a woman's dress.

    • @HansenFT
      @HansenFT Před 2 lety +18

      We even have a chain of male clothing stores called Dressmann

    • @mirjanbouma
      @mirjanbouma Před 2 lety +4

      @@HansenFT we in the Netherlands used to have a store chain called "Vroom en Dreesman" and i always wondered what that second name meant, now I know, thank you.
      (For English speakers: no, Vroom does not mean what you think it means, it means devout)

    • @femiwelch3849
      @femiwelch3849 Před rokem

      I love the pterodactyl ones

  • @GERdeathstar
    @GERdeathstar Před 4 lety +463

    Fun fact - In German, 'dress' translates to 'Kleid', which again must have had unisex roots, as 'clothing' is called 'Kleidung'.

    • @undertakernumberone1
      @undertakernumberone1 Před 4 lety +41

      also: Ankleiden. "dressing up". Though "anziehen" is more common today.

    • @naneneunmalklug4032
      @naneneunmalklug4032 Před 4 lety +25

      "Beinkleider" "Leg-Dresses" oldfashioned word for trousers

    • @valeriacavalloro2729
      @valeriacavalloro2729 Před 4 lety +13

      In Italian this is still the case: we have the same word meaning "female dress" in its singular form ("vestito") and just "clothes" in its plural form ("vestiti"), and it is also the past participle of the verb "vestire" ("to dress").

    • @sennheiser1986
      @sennheiser1986 Před 4 lety +11

      @@undertakernumberone1 in Dutch however, it's still "aankleden". The act of putting on all your clothes is "aankleden". If you say you just put on your pants you would use "aantrekken" which would be "anziehen" in German. :)

    • @hadhod5274
      @hadhod5274 Před 4 lety +11

      I wonder if kleidung is the original word for clothing in the english language, most german words that sound uncannily familiar to english words usually have this connection, so i wonder if thats the case here?

  • @n08le73
    @n08le73 Před 3 lety +179

    Some of your mystery garments can be explained in the fact (which you did mention in a different context) that many households made their own cloth and clothing. So, someone's individual clothing appearance would often depend heavily upon the skill and creativity of whoever was making the garments in their house. "What's that?" "Oh, my tunic? My wife made it for me." "That's not a tunic! It's got a bloody hood!" "Well, I keep misplacing my hats, so she made mine with a hood."

    • @abstractapproach634
      @abstractapproach634 Před 8 měsíci +11

      Misplacing your hats?! you must be very wealthy, I saved up for 5 years for me hat (but I must say, the damsels go crazy for it)

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 Před 4 lety +647

    Shad's Neighbors: "And now he's just shouting about crotches. Why are we still here? -Just to suffer?- "

  • @UpTheIronOzzy
    @UpTheIronOzzy Před 4 lety +604

    I know a guy who frequently wears medieval clothing in his everyday life.
    He had the clothing originally for larping.
    Then he found out that those types of clothes are really, freaking, comfortable and practical to wear. And he hasn't looked back since.

    • @WhichDoctor1
      @WhichDoctor1 Před 2 lety +89

      Since I came out as gender nonbinary and started wearing dresses and skirts I came to the same conclusion! Everyone should be wearing what we now call dresses, they're soo good. Cool in the summer, warm in the winter, unrestrictive and comfortable all the time and just plain fun to swoosh around in. Guys, break free of the tyranny of trousers.

    • @Nikolej100
      @Nikolej100 Před 2 lety +24

      That's me. My neighborhood still can't believe that I existed.

    • @danyalullah5856
      @danyalullah5856 Před 2 lety +41

      if you look to the clothing of the middle east, india and some of the more old fashioned south east aisan and chinese clothing you'll find alot of the same trends as medieval uni sex type dresses and i can confirm they are very comfortable.

    • @danyalullah5856
      @danyalullah5856 Před 2 lety +48

      ​@@WhichDoctor1 you dont need to be non binary to were dresses and dress type garment and there are male brands for them but you'll have to look abroad since they've been abandoned in wester culture

    • @TomorrowWeLive
      @TomorrowWeLive Před 2 lety +37

      @@WhichDoctor1 freak

  • @spudd86
    @spudd86 Před 4 lety +548

    Another bit of linguistic evidence is that if you want to translate "dress" into French the word is "robe".

    • @thexalon
      @thexalon Před 4 lety +111

      And to add to the confusion: When you put clothing on, you're "dressing", while when you take it off you're "disrobing".

    • @timpeterjensen2364
      @timpeterjensen2364 Před 4 lety +73

      @@thexalon good point, from now on i will always be robing and disdressing to solve this issue! :D

    • @Zazu1337
      @Zazu1337 Před 4 lety +54

      @@timpeterjensen2364 I am so distressed by all this vocabulary.

    • @agsilverradio2225
      @agsilverradio2225 Před 4 lety +31

      @@thexalon Undressing (un-dress-ing) is also a term for taking clothes off.

    • @brokenursa9986
      @brokenursa9986 Před 4 lety +23

      Are you telling me Robespierre's name is basically just "Peter's dresses"?

  • @anonymousesayshoooooi5889
    @anonymousesayshoooooi5889 Před 3 lety +400

    undergarments: 2:32
    tunic: 9:34
    bliaut: 10:16
    houppelande: 11:28
    herigaut: 17:09
    surcoat + kirtle: 19:07
    gambeson: 22:17
    jupon, tabard + monastic scapular: 24:04
    cotehardie: 29:30
    doublet: 30:43

  • @Sodalis_
    @Sodalis_ Před 4 lety +809

    The 4 types of clothing:
    Shirts
    Fancy shirts
    Dresses
    Stopyourselfgettingstabbed shirts

    • @IndigoGollum
      @IndigoGollum Před 4 lety +70

      There's also the more modern stopyourselfgettingshot shirts

    • @Sodalis_
      @Sodalis_ Před 4 lety +90

      @@IndigoGollum you see, if you think about it, bullets are just very fast and small sword being thrown by a boom boom stick

    • @just_foxy35
      @just_foxy35 Před 3 lety +19

      @@Sodalis_ I love the term "boom boom stick" 😂

    • @fulana_de_tal
      @fulana_de_tal Před 3 lety +20

      oh yes, the four horseman of upper body clothes

    • @piccoloktheforged
      @piccoloktheforged Před 3 lety +4

      @@Sodalis_ so brave yet controversial

  • @shadfacts6465
    @shadfacts6465 Před 4 lety +691

    Shad Facts: Shad hosts fully participatory live action DnD campaigns for orphaned halflings. For some reason they love his Lord of the Rings Campaigns the most.

    • @mme.veronica735
      @mme.veronica735 Před 4 lety +41

      So that's where It's TableTop Time went

    • @harperthegoblin
      @harperthegoblin Před 4 lety

      Lol

    • @LiveErrors
      @LiveErrors Před 4 lety +24

      At this point you have to wonder if there are multiple Shads

    • @thomasmcgraw8778
      @thomasmcgraw8778 Před 4 lety +32

      @@LiveErrors no his speed simply allows him to occupy multiple spaces at once.

    • @riddleiddle
      @riddleiddle Před 4 lety +3

      I would love to watch those, are there any livestreams/videos?

  • @Philosophocat
    @Philosophocat Před 4 lety +490

    In Russian also, the word for "dress" - платье - used to be unisex, but in modern Russian is much more frequently attributed to female clothing.

    • @Itoyokofan
      @Itoyokofan Před 4 lety +47

      I believe there's a word for Bliaunt in Russian too, though it's pronounced a bit differently. You can hear it in CS:GO from time to time.

    • @user-ve3rf8eh6b
      @user-ve3rf8eh6b Před 4 lety +27

      @@Itoyokofan Somebody might actually miss the joke. Bew careful.

    • @stein1919
      @stein1919 Před 4 lety +4

      and there are certain words in Spanish for various articles of clothing that are feminine even though men wear them but it used to be women that wore them and the meaning changed by the gramatical gender didn't

    • @gibbeldon
      @gibbeldon Před 4 lety +13

      Similar to German. "Kleidung" means clothing, but "Kleid" means dress. I believe in English there is also something similar going on with the verb 'to dress'.
      (oops, shouldn't be commenting without full information. Hadn't reached that part of the video yet where Shad elaborates on this point.)
      It doesn't have to be a dress you are dressing yourself with. Dressing also means "kleiden" in German.
      I believe it's just one of these cases where it all comes down to fashion. Fashion was always able to cross borders effortlessly.
      I'm still hoping for dresses to become fashionable for men again.

    • @markfillery1002
      @markfillery1002 Před 4 lety +2

      dont talk about the russians czcams.com/video/u5A55eWbiBI/video.html

  • @Frederic_S
    @Frederic_S Před 4 lety +53

    Loved the fact that you „got dressed“ and some viewers said: „that’s a robe, don’t call it a dress!“

  • @usedcolouringbook8798
    @usedcolouringbook8798 Před 4 lety +77

    12:29 In concern to sleeves, they were the HIEGHT of fashion in medieval times, it allowed a lot of tailors to set themselves apart, since they could show off their technical talent with how they designed the sleeves (size, shape, inner sleeve, embroidery, etc.)

    • @yig_501
      @yig_501 Před 4 měsíci

      smive loved shirts cuz their sleeves and hated them sleeves so important

  • @Regfife
    @Regfife Před 4 lety +166

    Reminds me of Kronk's consciences:
    "And that's a dress!"
    "ROBE!"

  • @simjunyu2569
    @simjunyu2569 Před 4 lety +317

    People feeling bored quarantined
    Shad: Has basically a castle in his backward

  • @jamesbrown4092
    @jamesbrown4092 Před 4 lety +76

    Only Shad could make "CROTCH!" sound like a battle cry.

    • @jameshamaker9321
      @jameshamaker9321 Před 3 lety

      I haven't heard that, in the video yet, when did he say that?

    • @jamesbrown4092
      @jamesbrown4092 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jameshamaker9321 33:12

    • @mariusreinecker1556
      @mariusreinecker1556 Před 2 lety +3

      ... while Shad expertly vocalized that one, CROTCH has always been and always will be The Ultimate Battlecry. Everything else is just feeble pipings in the background.

  • @Sealdrop
    @Sealdrop Před 3 lety +66

    literally the mvp for shoutouts to other ppl for no reason

  • @owenlee6963
    @owenlee6963 Před 4 lety +343

    It's like Christmas every time Shad uploads, i love it

    • @kamipopo1
      @kamipopo1 Před 4 lety +7

      So true

    • @cuddles9952
      @cuddles9952 Před 4 lety +2

      My man's is speaking the truth 🖤

    • @obsidian1612
      @obsidian1612 Před 4 lety +1

      I don't know why it does, but I love it!

    • @ChimenyDust
      @ChimenyDust Před 4 lety +1

      An old man steals my baked goods every time shad uploads :(

    • @BarokaiRein
      @BarokaiRein Před 4 lety +1

      I call it shadmas

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 Před 4 lety +462

    Peasant 1: Who’s that then?
    Peasant 2: I dunno, must be a king?
    Peasant 1: Why?
    Peasant 2: He hasn’t got sh*t all over him.

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 Před 4 lety +59

      Honestly, allot of the misconceptions probably stem from people conflating serfs and peasants. Peasant just means small rural farmowner, they can be dirt poor to moderately well off. A serf is a step above a slave and was tied to the land he worked for a noble.

    • @Halo_Legend
      @Halo_Legend Před 4 lety +5

      I dunno, must be a king.*
      Please, learn it already, it's literally pre-primary school knowledge.

    • @scottmantooth8785
      @scottmantooth8785 Před 4 lety +20

      *still just a quotable today as it was on it's first utterance*
      *although i prefer using the term post digestive matter to avoid sounding like an actual unwashed peasant*
      *and a just slightly more elevated*

    • @magisterrleth3129
      @magisterrleth3129 Před 4 lety +30

      @@Halo_Legend Here's some literary knowledge for you;
      Pretentious, adjective
      attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.

    • @mateuszbanaszak4671
      @mateuszbanaszak4671 Před 4 lety +9

      I love Monty Python movies.

  • @erensaner
    @erensaner Před 4 lety +23

    your channel is great and all but I want to say something else: your videos give me hope that someone can be this passionate about his interests, be happy about them and be successful at it too. it is obvious that you enjoy the subjects you are talking about and really want to inform people without boring them or losing their interest. therefore you are the kind of a guy I'd like to have at my university as a teacher. and all around you seem like a genuinely good person and watching your channel gives me a fuzzy warm feeling in my heart.
    thank you shad

  • @TheBeelzboss
    @TheBeelzboss Před 4 lety +22

    In the video by Todd's workshop where he tested arrows vs armor they did some tests with a juppon and found that it helped a lot with the arrow shards flying around so much, catching a lot of the fragments.

  • @MagnusThePaladin
    @MagnusThePaladin Před 4 lety +156

    princess bride is a classic

  • @RickardLejonhjarta
    @RickardLejonhjarta Před 4 lety +150

    they most likely mixed and altered the clothes as well, like we do. You'd have to dive pretty deep into fashion history and such to make full sense of why certain clothes seems to fit into several categories

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety +14

      Rickard Lejonhjärta it’s mostly because people called things whatever they wanted just like today.

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger Před 3 lety +6

      There's also the fact, that most clothes were home-made at that time, so people could add their own unique touches to their outfits, rather than being mass-produced according to specific templates. In a way, every article of clothing at that time was basically a unique thing.

  • @ReWildUniversity
    @ReWildUniversity Před 4 lety +35

    Wow, super honored that you mentioned me in your video! I continue to wear the kjortel and find that it has surpassed any other garment, including modern high-tech fabric jackets, for functionability and durability under some pretty extreme winter conditions. Thanks for your awesome channel!!!!

    • @abstractapproach634
      @abstractapproach634 Před 8 měsíci

      You didn't pay him? Hmm might check it out (sounded like an ad)

  • @QazwerDave
    @QazwerDave Před 4 lety +53

    "Dress" in norwegian is "kjole"
    "Suit (and tie)" in norwegian is "Dress"
    Also, "Coveralls" in norwegian is is "Dress" or "kjeledress".
    So Dress used in norwegian as certantly are most definitely used as unisex, if not most for men, actually.

  • @DavidSmith-vr1nb
    @DavidSmith-vr1nb Před 4 lety +165

    As far as I can remember, "chemise" still means "shirt" in modern French.

    • @Resonant91
      @Resonant91 Před 4 lety +32

      Indeed it does. But it’s also a bit more specific in that it refers to a nice shirt, like a button up shirt for formal/business attire.

    • @natsunohoshi7952
      @natsunohoshi7952 Před 4 lety +3

      @Communist Alpha Male Banging Capitalist Beta males Actually, in English "chemise" is only used for the historical garment. "Blouse" (also coming into English via French) is the word for a nice women's shirt. But most people usually just say "shirt."

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger Před 3 lety +5

      @@natsunohoshi7952 Chemise in modern use refers to a specific type of women's nightgown.

    • @fulana_de_tal
      @fulana_de_tal Před 3 lety +7

      it really sonds like 'camisa' (formal buttun up shirt) and 'camiseta' (T-shirt) from portuguese

    • @lastquarter3992
      @lastquarter3992 Před 3 lety +2

      @@natsunohoshi7952 Blouse is also used similarly in French.
      Also, another funny thing to note is that robe means dress in French. You can actually see where these words come from, it's super interesting

  • @Knoloaify
    @Knoloaify Před 4 lety +144

    Regarding "to dress" and "dress" in English, you also have parrallels with French "se vêtir"-> "vêtement" ("something thing that is worn") and Japanese "着る" (kiru) -> "着物" (kimono) which litterally means "the thing you wear".
    Seems like a lot of languages simply name "clothings" as "that stuff you dress in" and when it's a common type of cloth it can end up being synonymous with it (like dress and kimono).

    • @alexv3357
      @alexv3357 Před 4 lety +7

      Additionally: 着物/Kimono, unlike 'dress' or 'kleid' or many similar words in European languages for dresses, is unisex in the modern day.

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE Před 3 lety +2

      @@alexv3357 vêtement is also unisex, I believe. It means clothes in general and not only dress

    • @Hope-un5wv
      @Hope-un5wv Před 3 lety

      The little hat accent above the e replaced an s so the word was originally vestement - vest.

    • @chinyoka2387
      @chinyoka2387 Před 3 lety +1

      It's the same in German. "Kleidung" = clothing, "Kleid" = dress

    • @robinrehlinghaus1944
      @robinrehlinghaus1944 Před 2 lety

      Also „Kleidung“ in German, which literally means „clothing“, whilst „Kleid“, meaning „Dress“ is mostly used for female garments nowadays, even though it’s not originally intended so.

  • @MS-cq4xn
    @MS-cq4xn Před 3 lety +68

    This is great. With all my study of French language and culture, I've never seen the clothing broken down like this. I learned a lot. In French, "H" is not pronounced. Hérigaut is pronounced "air - ee - go" Cotehardie is pronounced something like 'co - tar - dee'. There is no nasal in bliaut. 'Blee - oh' The 'au' combination makes the sound "oh". There is no stress in French, so tabard (from the French tabarde) is pronounced with equal stress on both syllables, and the "a" in both syllables is "ah". Hope this is helpful.

    • @memkiii
      @memkiii Před rokem +3

      That would be fine if English was French but it isn't. These words in use in England or other non French speaking Medieval countries, would either have their own names or be pronounced in the local vernacular, A lot of French words used in English bear little resemblance to the original French much past 1066. Then we have the difference between Old, middle, and modern English.. Oh the joy of language. French of course has also changed itself.

    • @MS-cq4xn
      @MS-cq4xn Před rokem +1

      @@memkiii Absolutely.

    • @tompatterson1548
      @tompatterson1548 Před rokem

      That’s an anachronistic pronunciation. Old French pronounced it differently.

    • @MS-cq4xn
      @MS-cq4xn Před rokem

      ​@@tompatterson1548 To a certain extent, but vowels haven't changed much except for diphthongs and triphthongs. H still either not pronounced or pronounced gutturally. Of course, there was the difference between la langue d'oc and la langue d'ouil. You may be interested in listening to this: czcams.com/video/Vv0yd1of4U4/video.html What changed more than the pronunciation are the words themselves.

    • @tompatterson1548
      @tompatterson1548 Před rokem

      @@MS-cq4xn Surely it depends on etymology! I'm pretty sure germanic h was pronounced into the rennaissance.

  • @persefoniajax
    @persefoniajax Před 3 lety +266

    Every time you see unpainted armor, retroactively kick a Victorian. It's their fault - they polished it because instead of medieval decoration, they saw metal and thought "shiny!"

    • @robinrehlinghaus1944
      @robinrehlinghaus1944 Před 2 lety +14

      I literally remember the tumblr post where this is from

    • @doubtful_seer
      @doubtful_seer Před 2 lety +25

      This reminds me of Greco Roman sculptures.

    • @CollinMcLean
      @CollinMcLean Před 2 lety +3

      Victorians ruin everything...

    • @etherealsoul9386
      @etherealsoul9386 Před 2 lety +3

      @@CollinMcLean Literally choked on tapeworms, its amazing

    • @CollinMcLean
      @CollinMcLean Před 2 lety +23

      @@etherealsoul9386 One of history's memes
      "Because victorians ruin everything"
      "Surprise! The Normans!"
      and Rome going to war with itself

  • @ajaafive1384
    @ajaafive1384 Před 4 lety +224

    "What would you call this garment?"
    Me: pretty and colorful

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Před 4 lety +25

      I suspect for most of history, that's all that really mattered.

    • @TomorrowWeLive
      @TomorrowWeLive Před 2 lety +1

      @@Bluecho4 and you would suspect entirely wrong

  • @luminous3357
    @luminous3357 Před 4 lety +222

    👉Shad-- I think you're referring to "sumptuary laws" which precluded peasants from wearing certain colors or using certain fabrics associated with the upper classes. Actually, there's a host of reasons, and many complexities and cultural variations involved in the specifics surrounding these laws.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumptuary_law

    • @Hope-un5wv
      @Hope-un5wv Před 3 lety +5

      One day I will make the forbidden sumptuary outfit.

    • @jackthejackrabbit1947
      @jackthejackrabbit1947 Před 3 lety +1

      i shall slay thee with my odorned saber *slaps pesent with white glove* DO NOT WHERE THIS, I FORBID YOU!!!!

  • @xtremetuberVII
    @xtremetuberVII Před 4 lety +44

    Shad, at this rate you're going to have to be credited for all of the information I'm getting from you. First I learned about sapping a castle, and right when I'm at the stages of describing clothing for artist references, this pops up in my feed!

  • @khodexus4963
    @khodexus4963 Před 4 lety +22

    I asked my grandfather, who was a french teacher for longer than I've been alive (turning 37 next month), what you'd call a bliaut that has sleeves that are tied or otherwise narrow at the wrist. He says it would be a blaus. Or in modern spelling, blouse.
    So a gambeson being worn casually is like fatigues or khakis being worn casually by civilians?

  • @Solrex_the_Sun_King
    @Solrex_the_Sun_King Před 4 lety +85

    9:41 Zelda fans would argue that tunic protects you from the residual heat of lava, especially in say, a cave/volcano.

  • @Zwerchhau1411
    @Zwerchhau1411 Před 4 lety +80

    I’m so happy you’re doing the Serf video, I’ve always believed that they had more freedom and were better off than we thought. Cheers Shad, excellent video as always

    • @gewreid5946
      @gewreid5946 Před 4 lety +6

      Yes, i'm looking forward to that as well!

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 Před 3 lety

      Being a Serf meant being close to property of the Lord of the manner you worked the lands kept the animals and farmed, in exchange you were to be protected in the

    • @stgibbs86
      @stgibbs86 Před 3 lety

      @@ah5721 that's the misconception shad will dispell

  • @shanerooney7288
    @shanerooney7288 Před rokem +26

    2:32 Undergarment
    Also known as: Shirt.
    Usually long sleeved. Expected to get dirty (from sweat).
    8:09 Chemise (aka: Shift)
    Longer undergarment.
    3:11 “Main garment” =/= dresses
    Main garments are usually long. But aren’t considered dresses. The length is to help keep in heat.
    For men, robes usually came up to their shins. For women, dresses went down to the ground. The thing is… men are generally taller than women. So the same garment can be a robe for a man and a dress for a woman, depending on who is wearing it.
    9:11 Tunic
    Very broad term. Long sleeve, short sleeve. Knee length, ankle length.
    Most often, not buttoned. If it is waist length it may be considered a “shirt”, but that may just be a modern distinction.
    10:18 Bliaut and 11:16 Houppelande (vs Tunics)
    Tunics are usually not buttoned. And the Tunic’s sleeves, although can go to the wrist, are close cropped to fit the wrist.
    Bliaut and Houppelande are more likely (but not always) buttoned. They are almost always longer than waist length. And the sleeves at the wrist are extra baggy. Like if you wanted to hide a whole leg of ham up your sleeve.
    Where the Tunic is a broad term, the Bliaut and the Houppelande are a confusing term. Although Shad found some _trends_ in distinguishing them.
    The Houppelande is an outer-garment. An overcoat or jacket. For being extra warm. Also the size of the sleeves are even more exaggerated.
    Bliaut is a primary garment. More like a shirt.
    17:08 Herigaut
    An earlier term for the Bliaut and Houppelande.
    19:07 Kirtle and Surcoat.
    “Very much a dress like garments”.
    Both are worn over other clothes. However the examples shown look more like Autumn clothes rather than Winter clothes. The Kirtle has sleeves. The Surcoat has either short sleeves or no sleeves. A woman’s Surcoat may even have a longer slit under the armpit.
    22:17 Gambeson
    A medieval garment of stuffed and quilted cloth or leather. Used as by itself, or as padding under metal armor.
    24:03 Jupon, 24:13 Tabard, 24:27 Monastic Scapular.
    Cloth worn over robes, or more commonly over armor. Used as fashion or to present a coat-of-arms over their armor.
    Monastic Scapulars are thin, and shin length. Generally single colored (because monks). Just a front flap and back flap.
    Tabard is worn as the top layer of an outfit. Specific to show coat-of-arms over the armor. Usually thigh length. Usually (but not always) just a front and back flap, but wider than the Monastic Scapular.
    Jupon is like the Tabard. But padded, Gambeson like. More likely to have the flap sides sewn together.
    29:30 Cotehardie
    Like a tunic, but buttoned up (cloth buttons). Common in late medieval period. Mainly male clothing.
    30:41 Doublet.
    Popular in late medieval and renaissance. Usually ends at the waist.
    31:55 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    Popular male’s fashion of the time.
    33:39 Jerkin
    A man's close-fitting sleeveless jacket, typically made of leather. Popular in the renaissance.
    Not known if it was common in the Medieval period. (there was likely a handful)

  • @andyknightwarden9746
    @andyknightwarden9746 Před 4 lety +11

    You are just an _encyclopedia_ of medieval information! I love it!

  • @gaelicgladiator9407
    @gaelicgladiator9407 Před 4 lety +221

    Shad’s Gambeson is still the greatest piece of medieval clothing though, let’s be honest

    • @mme.veronica735
      @mme.veronica735 Před 4 lety +3

      Well it's close to winter there so he needs to keep warm

    • @biblebot3947
      @biblebot3947 Před 4 lety +3

      Mme. Veronica *wears it in summer*

    • @loganjones7808
      @loganjones7808 Před 4 lety +2

      Sometimes I wonder if a surcoat would look good over a white or grey gambeson.

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Před 4 lety +2

      @@loganjones7808
      Probably grey, since it'd hide some of the smudges brought on by your armor.
      But why restrict yourself to white or grey? There's a whole rainbow of colors to choose from.

    • @hadhod5274
      @hadhod5274 Před 4 lety +5

      @@biblebot3947 you know its winter south of the equator roght?

  • @blackfedora81
    @blackfedora81 Před 4 lety +37

    It's perfectly fine for Shad to ramble, as long as he does so entertainingly.

  • @kathleenhensley5951
    @kathleenhensley5951 Před 4 lety +41

    I am glad someone else found Medieval dress so very overwhelming and confusing! A tunic is basically a tee shirt. They used gussets, triangle additions under the arms etc. to give more range of movement. (no truly stretch fabrics existed.) To give more walking room there will triangular additions starting at the waist to the hem to add fullness, esp. true for women's tunics. ( I think they could technically be called gussets, too?) . . Some gowns were circles of cloth, or nearly so. After a great deal of reading I decided that a gown was more shapely, and, at least early on, had ties in the back or frontor even the side, so it could be tighter. Buttons seem to have existed, but were rare. Zippers, of course, would not be invented until the 1800s. Sumptuary laws : one reason -the church was a bother and wanted people to reject materialism... ie fancy clothes, make up, lace, jewels, gold... but the impression I have always had was that it was also really a strike against the burgeoning Middle Class in the late Middle ages and Renaissance. As you implied, the clothes revealed your status in society, --- your clothes quite literally 'made the man' . The Middle Class had money, and could affect nobility or even buy their coat of arms in some kingdoms. I've always had the impression that a Bliaut was a over-gown worn chiefly in Burgundy (the kingdom) in the High middle ages, about 1350s - or, at least, originating there. I've done a great deal of research on this subject (I'm a seamstress and needleworker) and also, I am working on a fantasy novel. In the end, after becoming entirely confused, I decided just to chose the simplest terms available. Really, think a lot of the confusion is that terminology changed from kingdom to kingdom, era to era. I am writing about a kingdom circa mid-1200s (on another world, no less!) so clothes are still rather simple, compared to the 1300s -1500s.
    There are some very good books on this subject:
    Medieval costumes How to recreate it -- Dorthy Hartley.
    Medieval Tailor's assistant ---Sarah THursfield

  • @lucaspelascini6330
    @lucaspelascini6330 Před 4 lety +10

    Cool subject Shad, there is definitely a lot to talk about !
    Funny how languages evolve ! Today in french "robe" is a dress, "chemise" is a shirt and "jupon" refers to petticoat (and I didn't even knew those words were used in English)

  • @billmorse5724
    @billmorse5724 Před 4 lety +57

    This was useful, and I'm glad you're doing more "civilian" material. I've been doing a lot of research on late medieval clothing for an ongoing project illustrating A Song of Ice and Fire. I've mostly been taking my aesthetic cues from the fifteenth century because of the War of the Roses. Even by giving myself that limitation, it's a challenge to track down what Mr. Martin means in his descriptions. Don't get me started on the multiple definitions of "surcoat"!

  • @ornu01
    @ornu01 Před 4 lety +67

    Well, Hollywood tells me that everyone wore studded leather armor, and when was the last time they were wrong?
    In my personal opinion, robes, tunics, blouses and cloaks are the best.

    • @101Mant
      @101Mant Před 4 lety +16

      Hollywood and many TV shows would make you think nobody knew how to wash themselves or their clothes and do their hair. Also they seem to love giant stitches as of people couldn't sow. Everyone's clothes are dull and often look badly made (if they aren't wearing that leather armour).

    • @ornu01
      @ornu01 Před 4 lety +1

      @Communist Alpha Male Banging Capitalist Beta males It would certainly save on budget and they'd have less of an excuse for doing half-arsed jobs, though all those poor prop designers would lose their jobs. They can join the long list of deserving people who lost their jobs to the evils of animation.

    • @ronweber1402
      @ronweber1402 Před 4 lety +3

      Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail probably had more accurate period dress than most Hollywood movies.

    • @julietfischer5056
      @julietfischer5056 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ronweber1402 - It's 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail.'

    • @daveh3997
      @daveh3997 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ronweber1402 Terry Jones of Monty Python's Flying Circus was also a medieval historian.
      He wrote Chaucer's Knight: The Portrait of a Medieval Mercenary (1980).
      He also co-wrote Who Murdered Chaucer? (2003)
      On TV he produced Terry Jones' Medieval Lives (2004) and Terry Jones' Barbarians (2006), Both include a book version penned by him.
      He also hosted the BBC series Crusades (1994)

  • @griffin5226
    @griffin5226 Před 4 lety +13

    You should make an unappreciated historical weapons episode on the staff sling. They appears in a lot of art and testimonies going all the way back to the 900s AD

  • @MrSqu1nty
    @MrSqu1nty Před 4 lety +23

    I haven't laughed for too long, but when you rolled that "Crrrrotch!" I had to rewind! Thank you Sir!

  • @halu959986
    @halu959986 Před 4 lety +32

    you forgot perhaps the most *important* element of women's dress in the 14th century; Tippets!
    Tippets are an exercise in sheer excess, and i love them

    • @halu959986
      @halu959986 Před 4 lety +3

      Thanks muchly for the like Shad 😁

  • @junoguten
    @junoguten Před 4 lety +86

    In German and several scandinavian languages, 'dress' refers to a suit, so they went the other way with the late gendering of the word.

    • @karliikaiser3800
      @karliikaiser3800 Před 4 lety +2

      I don´t know what you are meaning dress is "Kleid" "Kleidung" and dress is similar used as "Kleid" maybe not "Kleidung"

    • @junoguten
      @junoguten Před 4 lety +2

      @@karliikaiser3800 I might be wrong about german, I'm not a native speaker and it's been years since I used it much.

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 Před 4 lety +7

      @@karliikaiser3800 He means the German word "Dress". And while I don't remember seeing it used for suits, it most definitely is a name for (military and sports) uniforms, which are (at least traditionally) typically worn by males.
      As for your point that a generic term for something you wear no matter your sex has been narrowed down to a specific(ly) female type of attire in both English and German, the same goes for Japanese: "Kimono" literally means "wear-thing" or "dress-thing", but now it only refers to traditional Japanese clothing and (presumably reinforced through exposure to Western use of the term) usually refers to a narrow group of fancy female attire whereas more specific terms are used for male styles.

    • @karliikaiser3800
      @karliikaiser3800 Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@twincast2005 I think you mean "Rock" skirt and not "Kleid" dress, because "Rock" is used not exclusively to female but also to traditional or mitlitary clothing.

    • @Zyhmet
      @Zyhmet Před 4 lety

      @@twincast2005 (German speaker here) a short google session tells me that the German word "Dress" for a team uniform came from the english word "dress" in the 19. century.

  • @Neophoia
    @Neophoia Před 4 lety +3

    I love that you went to your wife and asked to borrow one of her dresses as a surcoat for the video. In sweden we sometimes still use the word "aftonskrud" which translates to "evening covering", as a way to refer to formal attire. the word "skrud" simply means covering, we even use it for things like plants and animals to say that they are covered in something, often natural.

  • @Clinthorne
    @Clinthorne Před 3 lety +8

    Great vid! Nailing down specific terms for medieval clothing is tricky because word meanings tend to shift over time. Cotehardie and surcoat , for instance, have had several meanings and at times even meant the same thing.
    Bliaut , for the most part, tends to refer to a long gown that was fitted through the torso and had very full skirts. The sleeves tended to follow the same silhouette - fitted on the upper arm with a full or hanging part below the elbow. It's your basic fantasy movie dress.
    Houppelandes were very, very voluminous from the neck down. The were often pleated to get extra volume. They could be belted - below the bust for women and at the waist for men - but just as often weren't. The sleeves were also very full. Sleeves could be bell like and trail the floor or they could be split to show the fitted sleeves of the kirtle worn underneath. The neckline was high and sometimes had a collar. Houppelandes were often lined in vair (squirrel fur) for warmth. They eventually evolved into academic gowns during the Renaissance and are still worn to this day.
    A Burgundian gown is very similar to a houppelande. It is cut on an A-line, making it somewhat fitted at the bust and widening to a very full skirt. The sleeves were typically fitted. A wide belt was worn just under the bust. The neck line was usually a deep vee that ended beneath the belt. This would show the kirtle worn underneath. The neckline could have a contrasting collar of silk or fur. The gown could be line with vair. Burgundian gowns overlapped with houppelandes and lasted well into the Renaissance. They eventually gained a waist line and evolved into Tudor gowns.
    Modern interpretations are often hybrids that mix the details from the three garments. I suspect that this is due to the fact that it can be hard to tell which garment you are seeing in primary sources (medieval paintings and sculptures). Pre-Raphaelite painters and modern fantasy movie makers are also guilty of promoting hybridized gowns above more period accurate styles.

    • @Shan_Dalamani
      @Shan_Dalamani Před 2 lety +1

      The surcoats shown that were worn by women are known as "sideless surcoats." One reason is because the woman could discreetly keep any small purses or pouches on a belt around the undertunic, and while she could easily reach it through the large side opening, nobody else could.
      I own a couple of these garments, and they're very comfortable.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 Před 5 měsíci

      There was a very practical reason for women's clothing having a high, empress waist just below the breast. An aristocratic woman would spend a large part of her adult life pregnant and even a peasant woman would spend half to a third of her life pregnant. I also think this is why a lot of dresses would have been belted or shaped with a sash, as these could be easily changed to accommodate a pregnancy.

  • @nazamroth8427
    @nazamroth8427 Před 4 lety +49

    Neighbour kids: Moooom! The weird guy with the castle is shouting about presenting his crotch agaaaaiiiiin!

  • @wolfancap6897
    @wolfancap6897 Před 4 lety +50

    Me wearing a hoopelande: "is this a bliaut?"
    Shad: "well yes, but actually no."

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety +5

      Wolf Ancap if it’s fitted it’s a bliaut, if not then a houpelande

  • @AugustTheStag
    @AugustTheStag Před 4 lety +134

    *Alternate Title:* "Shad frantically justifies his love for wearing women's dresses"

    • @Guillo78
      @Guillo78 Před 3 lety +3

      I laughed a little to much at this

    • @thecourtlyalchemist
      @thecourtlyalchemist Před 3 lety +8

      He's a lumberjack and he's okay.

    • @carsonrush3352
      @carsonrush3352 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thecourtlyalchemist, just like his dear Papa.

    • @Sciguy95
      @Sciguy95 Před 2 lety +2

      As opposed to MENS dresses?

    • @Shan_Dalamani
      @Shan_Dalamani Před 2 lety

      Men wearing pants/trousers as the standard garment is actually a recent thing, considering the thousands of years we have of recorded history. The men shown in the photos and illustrations in the video were all dressed normally for their various cultures and stations in life.

  • @valasarius
    @valasarius Před 4 lety +44

    The Puffy-Sleeved Jupon you were looking for, would be called a ,,Wams'' in Germany. But be careful with it because not all of These where worn over armor and Not all of them are padded. ,,Wams" is a very Broad term. Its like ,,Jacket" nowadays.

    • @robinrehlinghaus1944
      @robinrehlinghaus1944 Před 2 lety +2

      Genau genommen ist die heutige Definition für „Wams“, obwohl, wie du meintest, es früher breiter definiert war, so was wie eine Weste.

    • @valasarius
      @valasarius Před 2 lety +1

      @@robinrehlinghaus1944 ja stimmt schon, aber im Prinzip ist von der Definition her eine Jacke einfach eine Weste mit Ärmeln.

  • @FlyingNinjaish
    @FlyingNinjaish Před 4 lety +32

    Shad - What you're looking for regarding outlawed clothing are called sumptuary laws, and they happened in a lot of places. I've most commonly seen them regarding wealthy merchants or other burghers imitating noble styles - less familiar with those which would apply to the pesants.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety +2

      John Lloyd they would apply to peasants too, just that it’s unlikely to see peasants able to afford ermine. I have a sourcebook with some of them and you can find the Elizabethan ones online. Pretty cool stuff.

    • @FlyingNinjaish
      @FlyingNinjaish Před 4 lety +4

      ​@@adorabell4253 Oh, there are all sorts. In early Imperial China, the Imperial Household tried to monopolize jade, so the only way anyone not connected to the Emperor could get is was as a gift, though that system broke down. Later, the Ming Dynasty regulated the size of grave markers by social class.
      The Roman Emperors restricted the color purple (the Republic had laws banning all sorts of profligate living even for the patricians, but those eventually went away). Silk has been subject to all sorts to restrictions.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety +1

      @@FlyingNinjaish Some of my favourite are those that refer to shoe length and liripipe length. I also love that people just basically ignored them. If you could afford the fancy stuff, you can afford the fine. Granted, medical Europe was a lot less execution happy than China.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety

      Oh, and the fun ones done by Bess like mandating that everyone wear an English wool cap on Wednesdays (I think, or Sundays, one of the days). Promoting the home industries.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 Před 4 lety

      As far as I can tell sumptuary laws didn't become common in England until the very late medieval period going into the early modern. Not sure about the rest of Europe, and of course in the Middle East and China they were doing their own thing.

  • @velquar
    @velquar Před 4 lety +75

    Shad, my man, let me help you with one: co-te-are-dee (phonetic). It's like "co" in "company", "te" like a part of word "tech", "are" like a verb, and "dee" like a long d in "DJ".
    And as always, love your work.

    • @OkiMasako
      @OkiMasako Před 4 lety +1

      Makes me think of the Coterie from Dragon Age when it comes to pronuciation

    • @airplanenut89
      @airplanenut89 Před 4 lety +4

      I wonder is this is where we end up with the modern day coat as a button (or zip up) garment.

  • @heathercampbell6059
    @heathercampbell6059 Před 4 lety +6

    I've needed this video for YEARS.

  • @jaakkojauho5211
    @jaakkojauho5211 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you SO MUCH for always showing a picture of the clothing or thing you were talking about at that moment. It helped so much to keep up with everything. Also I loved your enthusiasm!

  • @MsAngelique
    @MsAngelique Před 4 lety +28

    The most important thing I learned today is that Medieval armor was indeed pimped up.

  • @mossripalextechno6450
    @mossripalextechno6450 Před 4 lety +20

    These videos you do are so helpful to me I am and aspiring author and you have taught me so much about a field that I know next to nothing about thank you so much 😊

  • @ThePageTurnerPT
    @ThePageTurnerPT Před 3 lety +7

    Whenever I watch this, I absolutely love the fact that Shad wore his wife's dress in the other reference video because DAMN it looks good:
    1.) On him
    2.) Overall. I'd wear that

  • @fountainnymph7577
    @fountainnymph7577 Před 3 lety +11

    the English word “robe” comes from the French “robe”, which means dress!!

  • @beliasphyre3497
    @beliasphyre3497 Před 4 lety +53

    If you come across a Delavion goat in a dress, steer clear; that's a duke's sweetheart.

  • @Agnessa92
    @Agnessa92 Před 4 lety +10

    Shad having a laugh at french words cracks me up so much

  • @michaelfontana9321
    @michaelfontana9321 Před 4 lety +1

    I'd like to take a few moments to thank you for all the hard work you put into each and every one of your videos.
    As a fellow medieval enthusiast and author, I've sought to try and create the most realistic fantasy setting I possibly could for my novel (a work in progress), and for the Dungeons and Dragons campaigns that I run for my friends.
    One of the biggest issues that I've had is figuring out exactly what to call the various outfits and garments in my novel, and these videos of yours have been a huge help in sorting through all of it in a clear and concise manner.

  • @jonahromero7476
    @jonahromero7476 Před 3 lety +1

    Shad, thank you for all the research, friend! I can't imagine how much went into this whether from readings over your life or geared for this video. You earned a subscriber on this one, good sir 👍

  • @randomletterhead6681
    @randomletterhead6681 Před 4 lety +18

    I've alway been interested in garmets and clothes throughout history.your channel has really changed my opinion on medival life and cleared alot of misconceptions.

    • @vin6870
      @vin6870 Před 4 lety +2

      Yer Shad has enlightened me to the way the past

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety

      There is a big historical clothing community both of yt and online in general. Check out Prior Attire if you’re interested!

    • @randomletterhead6681
      @randomletterhead6681 Před 4 lety

      @@adorabell4253 cool dude,I never herd of such a community.
      Do you know the name?

  • @sushanalone
    @sushanalone Před 4 lety +87

    Next time i log into World of Warcraft, i am going to tell everyone the Guild Tabard is actually a Guild Monastic Scapula!
    And then i will hope they don't fire me.

    • @dlwatib
      @dlwatib Před 4 lety +5

      *scapular

    • @devinm.6149
      @devinm.6149 Před 4 lety

      @@dlwatib it reads Scapula in the description.

    • @Talenel
      @Talenel Před 4 lety +3

      @@devinm.6149 Yeah, and the description is wrong.

    • @Sofie424
      @Sofie424 Před 3 lety +2

      By this the WoW tabard actually is a tabard tho. Closed at the sides, shorter than your knees, used to show heraldry.

  • @Scarecrow-sq1vh
    @Scarecrow-sq1vh Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks for doing this video Shad. Currently working on a fantasy novel and I have been having a little trouble figuring out what to properly call different types of clothing. This helped out a lot. Thanks!

  • @clifflutz155
    @clifflutz155 Před 4 lety +2

    Love these videos Shad! I'm an illustraitor and this content is very helpful when I'm trying to get a medieval period piece to look accurate!

  • @gewreid5946
    @gewreid5946 Před 4 lety +69

    Modern man's fashion really got the short end of the stick, eh?
    The codpiece left but the short garments stayed. :(
    The houppelande at 12:34 is so fabulous.

    • @ronbird121
      @ronbird121 Před 4 lety +5

      my pants still has a CRRRRRROTCH

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Před 4 lety +6

      I'm sad because I've never found the proper occasion to wear my Black Russian.

    • @fernandotrevinocastro1018
      @fernandotrevinocastro1018 Před 4 lety +5

      Its Funny how medieval times are tecnically more gender igualitarian in this regard than modern times.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety +14

      Fernando Treviño Castro not at all. Though the outfits look similar to us, to the medieval eye they were definitely gendered. Sort of like the t-shirt today, basically the same garment but you can tell if it’s cut for a man or a woman. Never mind the decorations.

    • @adorabell4253
      @adorabell4253 Před 4 lety +1

      Gewreid I believe that’s Prior Attire. Most of the images are from Izabela and Lucas. Highly recommend looking them up if you want to see more.

  • @baschdiro8565
    @baschdiro8565 Před 4 lety +75

    Just like in German: "Kleid" means dress, but "Kleidung" means clothes.

    • @rainwyvern4587
      @rainwyvern4587 Před 4 lety +2

      that also applies for the word 'dress'. it can mean both, depending on context (tho it's usually dress as in kleid)

    • @chrisf6859
      @chrisf6859 Před 4 lety +3

      Or "Kleider" is both the plural for dresses but also an oldfashioned word for clothes as in "Des Kaisers neue Kleider" (Emperors new clothes).

    • @Thraim.
      @Thraim. Před 4 lety +4

      Not to forget the old word for trousers: Beinkleider, literally "leg dress"

    • @Sodalis_
      @Sodalis_ Před 4 lety

      Isn't kleid cloth?

    • @monanagel6616
      @monanagel6616 Před 4 lety

      @@Sodalis_ No, cloth would be "Stoff" or "Tuch" - fabric, Kleid nowadays is only used for womens clothes, mostly one-pieces. But the similarity between kleid and cloth, with c/k L and t is interessting.

  • @Mattfromthepast
    @Mattfromthepast Před 2 lety +4

    Wow, this is the kind of content I love to see and it was really helpful for me, thanks alot.
    So the Gambeson was like the trench coat, it was originally military but then people thought the guys wearing it looked cool and then everyone started wearing it for while. Very interesting.

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 Před 4 lety +8

    Hey Shad, i’ve been thinking about this for a while after doing some research but it seems to be the case that the pre-Roman iron age in northern and central Europe (mostly Celtic Central Europe) seems to be a lot like medieval Europe far more so than ancient Greece or Rome.
    Like for example the fact that there was a class of elite warriors who were usually horse mounted and the fact that power was divided amongst high kings, lower chieftains and noble families who owns slaves that were captives from other tribes (so in a sense serfs, sense they could work for their freedom).
    As well as the fact that despite the fact that they were not Christian they did have a consistent religious order that had what we could consider almost like Catholic priest which would be the druids, and they played a very similar role in society to the later Catholic Church in the sense that their permission had to be taken into account before war and the like.
    It even gets more down into the details. Including the fact that the central European Celtic groups especially the Gauls had some of the first swords we could technically classify as a arming sword of some kind even though they didn’t have their cross like hilt and instead tended to have very little hand protection, but they did have large oval shields which may or may not of had unique symbols on them to distinguish person from person like a Proto heraldry.
    Not only this but similar to medieval people the Gaulish Celts had both tunics and trousers with women tending to wear longer forms of tunics more similar to dresses.
    They also built large forts atop hills, though not technically castles, they did serve the same purpose, and tended to have large wooden walls and moats, as well as a large central building that kind of acted like a keep.
    It just seems the more I look into it Iron Age France or goal as well as some regions of central Europe was almost medieval Europe before medieval Europe with feudal lords priestly class and knightly classes...
    Thought you might be interested

  • @dodger1792
    @dodger1792 Před 4 lety +11

    Sumptuary law is what you are looking for when they stopped lower classes from dressing above their station .I believe most European countries had some form of it ,and that includes England and Bavaria .

  • @Medievalannie
    @Medievalannie Před 4 lety +9

    I love looking at the drawings of clothes in illuminated manuscripts, there are some illustrations that are so detailed, it's great fun to imagine them in real life. Thanks for the great video!

  • @ohioman4646
    @ohioman4646 Před rokem +2

    31:07 that's my favourite armour type. It's called a Jack of Plate/Plated Jack. It's a brigandine that's been sewn instead of riveted. This was the equivalent of a modern day VIP's concealed bulletproof vest. Popular among the middle class, border reivers, and sailors. From what I can tell (correct me if you know more than i do) this was nearly exclusive to Great Britain.

  • @SkillTree
    @SkillTree Před 2 lety

    I LOVE Daniel Green. Great shout out!

  • @lankstonkent3318
    @lankstonkent3318 Před 4 lety +11

    Being French I can enlighten you on the word Chemise a bit. It is a masculine garment to this day and the spelling had not changed either. I don't know what the equivalent in English would be, but a chemise is what you wear to work, the shirt with the collar around which you can wear a tie or that you wear under a vest. It's also what though wear under the jacket of a tuxedo. Another interesting parallel is what is called a blouse in English, it's a French word too and it literally designates a work attire you'd wear over your clothes, made of leather, thick fabric or such. Think of a really thick, long apron.
    The plural of bliaut is most likely bliaux.

    • @veraxis9961
      @veraxis9961 Před 4 lety +4

      I think in modern english, the type of collared shirt worn under business attire would be called, ironically enough, a "dress shirt."

    • @lankstonkent3318
      @lankstonkent3318 Před 4 lety

      @@veraxis9961 That sounds about right, though rather British. Anyways, it's always fun looking at medieval vocabulary since it's so centered on France and England, you really pick up on very interesting words when you know both languages.

    • @diazinth
      @diazinth Před 4 lety

      @@veraxis9961 and in norwegian: Dresskjorte (dress skjorte), which to me sounds like a kjortel (kirtel?) you wear under a dress :)

  • @jackwriter1908
    @jackwriter1908 Před 4 lety +6

    Yes, Daniels Channel is awesome.
    Cool new video and Congratuliations for the Movie.

  • @masterhypnos6783
    @masterhypnos6783 Před 4 lety

    I love the amount of research Shad does to ad-dress these topics!

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf3129 Před 4 lety +7

    I was literally just watching a Daniel Greene video before this one. I think it would be cool if you, Daniel, and Tim from "Hello Future Me" did a collaboration, since you all follow each other already.

  • @zerozeroone4424
    @zerozeroone4424 Před 4 lety +22

    I'd love to see you do a video talking about Brigandine

  • @zerberus_ms
    @zerberus_ms Před 4 lety +30

    I feel that I need to watch it multiple times to really soak in all of that info

  • @anarosareyes6269
    @anarosareyes6269 Před 4 lety +1

    Love these videos where You talk about real day to day medieval features as the one about the torches and now gargment it helps a lot to relate to the real people that lived at that time, I wish you to dedicate one to transportation when you have the time. I find it very interesting

  • @machaiarcanum
    @machaiarcanum Před 4 lety +1

    Yeah! I was so excited for stuff like this after the last one. Thanks Shad!

  • @SalamandersRCool
    @SalamandersRCool Před 4 lety +8

    Thank you so much for making this! You have no idea how bad I needed it. I try to draw fantasy characters but I'm always disappointed by how plain and similar their clothes looked because I didn't have a wide enough reference.

  • @stuartcooper3261
    @stuartcooper3261 Před 4 lety +7

    Thanks for the video Shad! As a working concept artist - videos like this and some of your previous are gold! I have to reference lots of character clothing, weapons, armor, apparell etc and alot of the time I know what the piece looks like but I dont have a scooby doo what the damn thing is called! keep em coming and all the best!

  • @themightycrixus1131
    @themightycrixus1131 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the sharing of research that you constantly do!

  • @blackbeautysister3
    @blackbeautysister3 Před rokem

    I love videos like these where I can just feel like I'm in a college class listening to the teachers lecture and actually being fascinated.

  • @annecampbell1379
    @annecampbell1379 Před 4 lety +14

    Thanks, Shad, for this video. I write medieval fantasy and have driven myself crazy trying to figure out the terms for the various items of clothing. You have really clarified this for me. Love your videos. Keep them coming.

  • @dorianrobinette9712
    @dorianrobinette9712 Před 4 lety +64

    Shad fact even though I'm not shad facts: one time while shad was vacationing back in time he decided to play a game of intergalactic mini golf. He was trying to sink an asteroid into a nearby black hole, but got distracted thinking about machiculations, as he so often does. Having accidentally missed his shot the asteroid was sent on course towards earth. This game took place about 65 million years ago. I have idea what the consequences of missing his shot were.

    • @mme.veronica735
      @mme.veronica735 Před 4 lety +15

      The only problem I have with this is it implies the inventor of golf, Shad, has missed a shot. I think there was some sabatoge

    • @dorianrobinette9712
      @dorianrobinette9712 Před 4 lety +16

      Well he didn't invent golf, he just travelled back in time to play it. And let's be real here, if there's any good reason to miss a shot, it's thinking about them sexy machiculations.

    • @GustavusAdolphus2
      @GustavusAdolphus2 Před 4 lety +2

      So that's what happens to the dinosaurs?

    • @dorianrobinette9712
      @dorianrobinette9712 Před 4 lety +2

      It's very possible.

    • @harambe4267
      @harambe4267 Před 4 lety

      This reminds me of Lister playing galactic billiard...

  • @ocean6828
    @ocean6828 Před 4 lety +1

    I can not get over how awesome that castle backdrop is

  • @nightcatssketchbook
    @nightcatssketchbook Před 3 lety +1

    I never knew just how many different types of clothing there was in medieval times! This was a really helpful video, thanks Shad!

  • @yannrobin5539
    @yannrobin5539 Před 4 lety +21

    Hey, just a little point before I forget : chemise is indeed french, and litterally means "shirt". Like. Sure, it's feminine gramatically speaking because french is way too weird, but, it applies to ladies' shirts or guys' shirts. Idk why it's specifically feminine in english. Languages are weird.

    • @Lttlemoi
      @Lttlemoi Před 4 lety

      To add to that, 'shirt' in Dutch is 'hemd'. Other Germanic languages probably have a similar sounding word.

    • @____-pb1lg
      @____-pb1lg Před 4 lety +1

      Chemise is a little less broad than shirt, nowadays at least we have a distinction between the plain > shirt that we call > and the fancy type of shirt you put under tuxedos is a so while everyone can wear a chemise it's more male associated.
      And as for the gender of the word, you shouldn't think of it as an indicator of the intended user, grammatical gender in french is a remanant of the latin gender structure with the masculine, feminine, and neutral.
      iirc it has something to do with the object being animated or not, I don't really remember.
      E.g (a jacket) is grammatically feminine even tho the clothe is unisex, or (a shoe) which is again unisex.

  • @Erik_Armando_123
    @Erik_Armando_123 Před 4 lety +13

    I subscribed to your chanel because Daniel Greene interviewed you not long ago. 👍👍
    And I got Shadow of the conqueror too.

  • @allninelivez7631
    @allninelivez7631 Před 3 lety +4

    We need a time machine. But we're spectres. We can see historical figures, society, and events but we can't interfere. But that's fiction, would be cool though to see how civilizations change.

  • @SantaMuerte1813
    @SantaMuerte1813 Před 3 lety +2

    Categorizing clothes is always rather difficult as there are many categories to choose from. It's a bit like categorizing fiction into genres, where you can classify one and the same story e.g. either as SciFi or as Action, depending on whether you focus on the plot or the setting. Similarly in clothes you can focus on the cut, but you can also focus on the signals the piece of clothing sends or where you are wearing it layerwise or how you are wearing it or who is wearing it. The Tabard for example: from the cut it is identical to a houppelande, which is why several languages use their word for tabard for the houppelande as well. But in languages that have the term houppelande too, tabard tends to be more representative garments, like having crests or at least the lord's colours.
    In Germany for example, the general public wore 'Kittel' (kirtles), but monks and in many places also the nobility didn't, they wore 'Tuniken' (tunics), which looked identical from the cut, but used the latin terminology, while the general public used the german terminology. Similarly in contemporary German you call a kilt 'Kilt', when a man wears it, but 'Wickelrock' (draped skirt) when a woman wears it.
    Similarly, the jewish kippa and the catholic priests zucchetto are same, when you focus on the cut, but differ in both the groups who use it and in the used material.
    The outermost layer is a great example of how wearing things differently can affect their names: Take a square peace of cloth with a hole in the middle. If you wear it so two of the edges are parallel to the ground and the other two go up vertically to your shoulders and down on the other side, it's the most simple form of a houppelande. If you wear it so two of the corners are on your shoulders and the other two point to the ground in the middle of your body, you have a basic poncho.
    Another great example are hats: Most european hats, be it the tricorne, the bicorne, etc.pp. were the same hat with just the brim folded differently. Similarly the German Gugel - a sort of cape that covers only the hat and shoulders - turns into a chaperone once you roll up the face cut-out to make the hole narrower and put that ontop of your head.