Heading Towards Devastating Escalations Between Russia and NATO? | Ray McGovern
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2024
- Ray came to Washington from his native Bronx in the early Sixties as an Army infantry/intelligence officer and then served as a CIA analyst for 27 years, from the administration of John F. Kennedy to that of George H. W. Bush. Ray’s duties included chairing National Intelligence Estimates and preparing the President’s Daily Brief, which he briefed one-on-one to President Ronald Reagan’s five most senior national security advisers from 1981 to 1985.
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Nima is an excellent interviewer he never interrupts his excellent guests.
Exactly! He lets them go until they reach their ending point
I really love this channel and the host this is what we need more of
Agreed.
CNN talks over you and interrupts.
Agree 100%
He also asks very good and pointed questions.
As a Briton and ex serviceman I have always known we owe everything to the Soviets (Russia) for the victory in World War Two. Without them we would never have prevailed. Thanks. 🇦🇺🇬🇧
В Великую Отечественную войну продержались под натиском немецкой машины:
Дания 6 часов
Голландия 5 дней
Югославия 11 дней
Бельгия 18 дней
Греция 24 дня
Польша 27 дней
Франция 1месяц и 12 дней
Норвегия 2месяца и 1 день
Дом Павлова в Сталинграде держался 58 дней
Советский Союз держался 4 года (1418 дней) И одержал Победу!
As an American, I too have known this. I don't know how so few people do! I don't understand it.
Ray McGovern is such a diamond of a person that he makes it hard for me to entirely give up on the species.. If people can be like this maybe there is still some good left in the human race.
Love light and happiness to all of you may we overcome the psychopaths that rules over us before its to late
PS mad credit to his russian and german .. took me a while to get my russian to that level
I agree absolutely. I worry every time he coughs! I want him to live another three decades at least.
The US is deplorable. End of.
*government
Ray is a lovely man.
End of an empire is here.
Nice,well said.
@@DavidGreenwood-nu6dd He's a gem!
Wow. Beautiful. Ray is an exceptional human being. Thank you Nima
Thanks, Nima! Ray is incomparable, he can even recite Russian poetry!
Thank you Nima, for letting our beloved storyteller speak. :)
They killed half a million people of all walks of life, not just 'kids'. It's horrific lawlessness on so many levels !
Probably closer to a million ... it will have consequences.
Excellent guest. Old school: a guest with deep culture. ❤
This is one of the most sobering and frankly, terrifying, interviews that Ray has ever given. Never before have I heard him tell such stories that illustrate how grave the present situation actually is. We are saddled with lunatics running the country - armed to the teeth with nukes.
I love listening to Ray.
Excellent production.
The russian lenguage in the voice of McGovern is truly beautiful.
Thanks.
Excellent interview, thank you Nima. Ray McGovern is a gem.
McGovern speaking fluent Russian such a beautiful thing.
Thanks for this :)
Пустил слезу когда слушал стих.Давно такого не было
Западные европейцы, прежде чем вы, уменьшите роль народов нашей страны в разгроме германского-европейского фашизма вспомните о небескорыстной(!) промышленно-финансовой поддержке оказаной режиму Гитлера Западом... в том числе - США. (Henry Ford, Averell Harriman, John D. Rockefeller, Prescott Bush, Montagu Norman, John Jay McCloy, Charles Bedaux, Axel Wenner-Gren...).
Казалось бы моральная опора западно-христианской цивилизации - Ватикан до сих пор не признал своей вины за помощь, которую он оказывал после войны гитлеровским палачам особенно тем совершившим военные преступления в Восточной Европе и Югослвии.
После падения континентальной Европы законопослушные обыватели Парижа, Брусселя, Осло, Копенгагена... не говоря уже о "оккупированной" Вене безболезненно привыкли/приспособились к немецкой оккупация в версии "софт".
Западным Европейцам и скандинавам как братьям-арийцам геноцид нe угрожал так как для истребления предназначались евреи, славянe и другиe недочеловеки (menschliche Minderware).
Довольно цивилизованная жизнь и совсем уважительное сосуществование с гитлеровским оккупантом датчан, норвегов, бельгийцев и французов и особенно француженок была несравнимой с геноцидной политикой Третьего Рейха на "диком Востоке".
Были и есть среди нас ничтожные предатели, националисты, ксенофобы, антисемиты и расисты но их ненависть никогда не сотрёт с надгробных стелл русские, украинские, белорусские, азиятские, кавказские и... еврейские имена и фамилии на разброшенных по всей центральной и Восточний Европе советских военных кладбищах.
Mолодые европейцы... и вы американцы тоже... Запомните, что в Краcной Армии мы - в отличии от американской - безпощадно искореняли расовую и... "гендерную" сегрегацию. Эти термины не плод умов наших поскольку человечность издавна и есть частью наших культурных ценностей. Не мы а ваши отцы и деды их придумали... только потому, что ваши предкам никогда не была дана возможность унизить сибиряка, калмыка, башкира, чуваша, тувинца, татарина, чеченца... да - уж не дай бог - обидить нашу "бабу". И вам не советую пробовать а то и получите бесплатный ускоренный курс обучения мултикультурализму, расовой терпимости, феминизму и... политкорректности.
Цинизм стран Запада зашкаливает. Ceгoдня oни выдавливают наших спортсменов из мирового спорта нo Нюрнбергские расовые законы введённые нацистами в 1935 году не помешали цивилизовнным, западным демократиям проведению Летних Олимпийских игр в 1936 году в Берлине украшенном флагами со свастикой.
Американцы и австралийцы неохотно вспоминают расовую сегрегацию во всех областях общественной жизни, которая просуществовала до 60-ых годов ХХ века.
Немцы и австрийцы во время пребывания в техаских лагерях для военнопленных никак не могли понять почему белые американцы относились лучше к ним чем к своим чернокожим сослуживцам. Бывшие cолдаты Роммеля пользовались столовой с надписью "Whites-only".
Бельгийцы, вы помните Экспо 1958 с выставкой живых чернокожих "экспонатов" из колониального Конго: мужчин, женщин и детей, задачей которых было учить и развлекать белых европейцев и проповедовать идею превосходства людей белой расы. У ограды толпились белые, ухоженные люди со своими ангельскими детишками. Они смеялись и издевались над конголезцами, а самые развязные бросали через ограду деньги и бананы. Этот «человеческий зоопарк» находился не так уж далеко от сегодняшних брюссельских офисов Евросоюза. Тем временем наши советские школники из всех уголков нашей многонациональной страны посещали ВДНХ в Москве. Напомню Baм, что c 1949 по 1991 год в советских вузах получили образование более 500 тыс. человек из 150 стран четверть из них из Африки.
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Двойные стандарты Западных СМИ зашкаливают. Где были ваши правозащитники и неутомимые "майданные" корреспонденты "Голоса Америки", "Deutsche welle", BBC и "Радио Свобода" когда в 2014 в Одесском Доме профсоюзов горели люди?
Понятно, если бы тогда в Одессе погибли представители польской, венгерской или - не дай бог - еврейской общин Украины Европа и весь "цивилизованный мир" yж точно бы не молчали.
Hаконец мой главный к вам посыл. Западные друзья, во время Второй мировой войны вы боролись за демократию, свободу и ваши цивилизационные ценности. Мы на Востоке боролись за б и о л о г и ч е с к о е выживание/существование.
Наши тогдашние враги, немцы, ни в чём "не виноватые" австрийцы и прадеды многих современных европейцев, которые - на свою беду - в 1941 году пришли незваные на нашу землю с огнём и мечом - слишком поздно это осознали.
Как бы ни хотелось западным историкам уменьшить роль Рабоче-крестьянской Красной армии в разгромe Гитлеровской Германии им не удастся обмануть статистику: 75% военнослужащих Третьего рейха и его союзников погибло на Восточном фронте. Думаю, что имменно простые советские солдаты отучили (надеюсь навсегда) немцев и австрийцев от милитаризмa и похoдoв на Восток ().
PS
Как воспоминает немецкий солдат Густав Винтер во время высадки англо-американцев в Нормандии 6 июня 1944 года он - как и его сослуживцы - задавался вопросом почему цивилизационно и расово близкие им люди мешают немцам и их союзникам защищать Европу от большевизма и... освобождение угнетённых народов СССР.
Эту байка появляется в многочисленных воспоминаниаях немецких ветеранов.
Можнo подумать, что в случае свержения стальинского/большевистского режима (допустим в 1940 г.) и появления руководителей в роде Горбачёва или Ельцина Гитлер уж точно отказался бы от плана "Drang nach Osten/Lebensraum".
Да, когда представил его выступление перед ветеранами.
Когда умрёт последний Русский,
Все реки повернутся вспять.
Исчезнет совесть, честь и чувства,
И звёздам больше не сиять.
Когда умрёт последний Русский,
Когда исчезнет Русский Дух,
На всей планете станет пусто
И Мир бесцветным станет вдруг.
Не станет русского балета,
Пожухнут русские поля,
И гениального поэта
Не явит Русская Земля.
Затихнут звуки балалаек,
Гармошек, дудок, бубенцов,
Не станет русских сказок, баек,
Ни песен дедов и отцов.
Не защитит солдат российский
Чужую слабую страну,
И впишет Ад в живущих списки:
Иуд, чертей и Сатану.
Когда последний русский встанет
На край могилы уходя,
Земля Землёй быть перестанет
И Бог заплачет, как дитя.
Но умирая, на излёте,
Он заорёт вдруг в пустоту:
"-Да хрен вам, бесы! Не дождётесь!
Я всех чертей переживу!
Пусть знает мир- Бог не заплачет,
И не иссякнет Русский род,
Бог любит Русь, а это значит -
Последний Русский не умрёт.
И злыдней помыслам не сбыться,
Не повернуться рекам вспять,
Хоть перекосятся их лица -
Русь в пыль забвенья не втоптать.
Россия раны все залечит,
Сто раз пройдёт и Крым и Рим,
Пусть знают все, что Русский вечен
И Русский Дух - неистребим!
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You are wonderful Mr. Mac Govern!
Absolutely wonderful talk! So true and touching! At his age Ray McGovern can afford to say the truth! Thank you so much! ❤️
Bravo Ray McGovern
Mr Ray McGovern, thankyou. You are a wonderful authentic compassionate person, the kind of person societies need in order to flourish. May God truly bless you and walk with you all the days of your life. May it be long and fruitful.
McGovern is a scholar and a gem .
❤ Ray McGovern ❤ I'm learning Russian now. Russian poems are a great way to learn the language. The ones I've heard translated in lessons so far are so beautiful, great imagery and meaning. I'm definitely going to learn this one, Ray ! Thank you for reading it to us 🌹❤️
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@@jelena5608 Privet ! Oo-menya-yest no-viy droog ! 😜❤️
NATALI BENNET was there too in Istanbul and he has admitted Boris Johnson visited Kiev and INSISTED on War
The wall poster: static.independent.co.uk/2023/05/02/16/e0d1400fb4a69428bb48f34300a8b7b2Y29udGVudHNlYXJjaGFwaSwxNjgzMTI3MzMy-2.67471463.jpg
There is a high resolution photo here:
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Thank you so much, gentlemen!
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Thanks for another excellent interview and guest.
Amazing how McGovern can remember a lengthy Russian poem like that. He has a better memory than I do.
Agreed, it's rare to see a host who does not think he is more important than his guests and has to keep chipping in to prove he's done his research. Nimo gets in well informed guests, ques them and lets it roll. Much appreciated.
Love ya Ray
Thanks Nima
Such a good presentation!!! Thanks Nima and Ra!
McGovern Mondays 😎
Sounds good to me,, Ray is slipping the tiniest bit but his analysis is still sharp...
Assange is freed! Thanks also to you, Ray McGovern! Now your beard can be shaved again!? We love you and your unceasing support for the moral conscience of all humanity. Your work has helped free Julian Assange! Thank you, dear Ray! We shall all be freer! "We Shall Overcome," you sang in Raleigh at the screening of film, with John, Gabriel, and producer of documentary, w/Matt Hoh too. Bless you-all! Celebrate. May Julian be well!
Bravo McGovern !
You make me proud to be an American
Why isn't Ray McGovern Prezident od USA. Americans could proudly say 'Look at our President, is your president smart as ours?,
Because president of the U.S. is a ceremonial position with no power like the queen of England.
A legend, Ray McGovern.
Ray McGovern's parting subtle warning here about US imperial (and specifically aircraft carrier) vulnerability in near future should be taken as seriously as possible by every USAmerican.
Agree,, there's all kinds of idiots on military stroke-channels bragging about American aircraft carriers and jets and subs and satellites and yeah it's all amazing stuff, top-notch high tech BUT carriers and subs are just targets for hypersonic missiles and cheap drones... and the Pentagram is ordering drones by the thousands but ultimately it's just pissing in the wind since no administration in its right mind would put American troops in eastern Europe...
With these western people, i think Russia has understood now, sadly, that destruction is inevitable.
Don't say that. I do not want to live in a world without Russia.
Hungary, Turkey, and Slovakia should protest and leave NATO especially Turkey since they’re the only military in the region that could actually do significant damage to Russia being the 2nd largest military within NATO not to mention how crappy the EU has treated Turkey not allowing them to join the EU meanwhile BRICS has opened its arms up to Turkey without hesitation
Turkey seriously needs to leave NATO
No just stay there as a black sheep in the family .
They are all puppets, even Serbia. Russia has only four real military allies: Belarus, China, Iran and North Korea. Russia should do Its defense and attack plans, counting only on These Four countries.
@@oliviasukamto947no they should leave and join BRICS even though BRICS is not a military alliance watch NATO feel like BRICS is a threat to them showcasing unprecedented levels of hypocrisy
NATO is cancer.
@@nerinineadd Cuba to the list the one ally on our side of the world where they could have direct access to wipe out any city along the eastern seaboard
Ray is a treasure.
NATO is not a defensive alliance. They illegally bombed Yugoslavia (direct violation of the UN Charter). We must never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria...
NATO ought to live up to its Charter be peace promoting and for the well being of citizens. It’s misuse as a U.S military extension needs to end.
NATO needs to understand that playing Russian roulette with a nuclear superpower is never a good idea
Great way for some Ray to McGovern my day.
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Lot's of love to Ray from Ireland 🇮🇪. Amazing recital of that poem. X
This was excellent, thank-you!
Ray is such a beautiful soul.
Fantastic show and guest as usual thank you very much😅
That poem said it all!
It made me cry.
Salam from the Netherlands ❤
Glimmers of hope is not good enough. Pride goes before the fall
Thanks!
Great episode, thanks. Art of the Deal explains Trump's "unpredictability", good lesson in negotiation typically lost on analysts and "policymakers" who've negotiated few agreements
Wow so interesting, many thanks
Don't you think that Russia should act now while the US and NATO are weak and unorganized.
I think Russia IS acting but not acting too provocatively,, which is amazing considering what's at stake... Wall Street thought the Russian oligarchs would desert president Putin,, and since it's still technically possible the efforts go on... and yeah NATO isn't organized for major ground offensives involving deep armoured thrusts, WW ll stuff but Wall Street's lap dogs in Europe apparently ARE making noises about assembling armies... OF COURSE the people think it's insane but,, like president Putin said NO ONE outdoes Wall Street in propaganda so the situation goes on...
Yes, and it worries me that Putin's still dragging his heels.
@@vaska1999 Did you see how difficult it was for the Soviets to ACTUALLY GET to Berlin, and then to conquer the city? IT WAS A BLOODBATH,, and president Putin IS NOT Stalin and has no desire to throw away lives... the conflict could end tomorrow: the Ukrainian army surrenders, the Beglensky regime is slung into a fast trial and off to a gulag, NATO takes their toys and goes home and vital Russian interests are accounted for... I'm as anti imperialist as anyone but, we're talking about RUSSIA, not some backwater in the Pacific or whatever...
No, not directly. Through proxies maybe, yes
YEEESSSS!!
Beatiful and sad, very sad poem. Thanks for sharing
What an elegant gentleman and scholar Ray McGovern truly is. He is a TRUE American treasure...a gift to us all.
Mink accord was an agreement not respected, not fulfilled by western leaders Germany ,France,US !
I am really concerned that the USA “leaders” will do anything necessary to keep from conceding that they lost their proxy war with Russia.
More Ukrainians have died in this proxy war than died for the USA in WWII.
Russians don’t think they were fighting an Austrian painter but the Collective West.
Ray was in Intelligence, but he never talks about the Dulles Bros spending the war in Bern.
That's sure an issue, in that there is a continuity in a dangerous cabale whom you still can't really touch.
They say it in a way, when they say that the politicians are here to be criticised and blamed for what is happening, so it can happen.
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It is Unspeakable to speak of the Untouchables.
I call them Mainstream Independent Media now.
Studebaker of South Bend Indiana, a major carmaker that went bankrupt in early 60s and not many outside my home town remember. Nice story Ray and good poem. Thanks for representing us well.
Make peace, not war
When Russia let Ukraine become a country they never imagined that the Banderas would get so strong and punished the Russian speakers for speaking in public.Then came Victory Nuland and she decided who will be the next government.
Beautiful sentiment, Ray. WH Auden's poem comes to my mind over my foolishness in believing in true democracy and my idea of what the US represented. The "he" in the poem is my idea of democracy yet I still have hope through my faith in God, and by extension, people like you who have a conscious. 🙏. Thanks for sharing.
Wow.... Our journeys have been similar.
I too was once a patriot in the US. And have now found God.
And now I see what a wicked country we are and have been for a long time.
@Dad_Bot If patriotism means a love of God and country, then it is the traitors who are no longer patriots. You have chosen the greater gift.
Invites Carl Zha and Brian Berlettic Please...
BREAKING: NATO AND UKRAINE BEHIND THE TERROR ATTACK
Behind all terror attacks
I believe they fund all terrorists. It is one of their regime change tools.
@@jofasablespot on,
Prove it.
Yes I know that US is involved in ATACMS attack on Crimea and the Ukraine, NATO and US are involved in terrorist attack on Russian church and killing of police personnel, church guards and one from the church this is pure evil
Larry is the best😂😂😂😂
Superb
What happened to the children playing on the beach. Sent horrors around the world, not yet felt.
Thank you
Instead of arming Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan; US tax payer money should be spent on infrastructure, healthcare, education, homelessness....
Sunday was a Christian orthodox holiday in Russia......all 3 terror attacks on the same day where probably no coincidence.
Nima, Ray. If we had a government worth a plugged nickel it would be Mister McGovern advising a President. Instead, we have the likes that we are just plain sadly stuck with. The United States has so come down so much. We have Bozos by the score and on the streets there are dozens more waiting forevermore.
Ray, as to what language Kyiv speaks: the Ukrainians believe that it is a mix of Ukrainian and Russian. But if you know expressions like "dialect continuum", you may wonder why the dialect of the capital city of the country is not considered the norm of the language (like e.g the French language of Paris). Anyway, the language of Kyiv in in between Russian and modern Ukrainian.
A tear is all i have..id weep..but i wont let myself
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Excellent analysis 👏
Ray is 84 years old, born in 1939.
What a sharp mind!
I'm at least 13.8 billion years old.
@@scottdellrobinson Then you can distinguish another elder.
Always informative watching this channel....The Dialogic Imagination'. Mikhail Bakhtin..
At 23:48: This time those two oceans that have protected you in the past, they don't protect you anymore. Please be aware of that. ~ Sergey Lavrov
Mega karma nightmare coming to usa
No one mentions BIO-WARFARE
well at least Jimmy Dore...
Maybe they don't mention it, but I am 100% sure they are all aware of it.
30 minutes is the sweet spot for me for YT geopolitical vids, but I make 2 exceptions to my rule: (1) Alexander Mercouris. and (2) Nima. I didn't include Ray, because I will listen to Ray for as long as he wants to talk, wherever I can find him. He's in a class by himself.
Not only individuals can go insane. 100 years ago the Western world experienced this same phenomena....
interesting!
I have to question the sanity of anyone that actually thinks JB is running the show.
McGovern reciting in Russian 😮🤩🤯
30:00 Deep gratitude to Ray McGovern for Nekrasov's 1855 poem in Russian. 🤍💙❤
In a recent interview, Andrei Martyanov explained the Odessa and Kharkiv matter. Putin is confident that both of these Russian cities will fall into his hands later without a fight. So why make an issue of it now when doing so might complicate diplomacy? Putin means to avoid the cost in blood (to both sides) of taking major cities by force. After Russia defeats Ukraine's military, Russia will dictate the terms - and it will be an unconditional victory.
Holy Shit! Ray Can Speak Russian😮
Mr McGovern......Love the poem by the Russian writer....
McGovern!
😢 pretty sad!!
Does anyone have the reference where Lavrov warns that “the two oceans will not protect the US.” ?
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Sine Qua Non...Good Latin Ray, good Latin!!! (:-
As the future ripens in the past, So the past rots in the future …
Anna Akhmatova
I like the young guys wig!
You wish. 😅 It's Nima's own hair.
Ray’s smirk is fading…. 🤔 I wonder why.
I hadn't noticed. But his twinkling eyes are even more expressive.
I’m noticing it too; it’s gravity of the situation.
Lloyd Austin?? A scummy DEI hire.
Austin is very very weak.
woot
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I'm recommending that people read "Exposition of the Divine Principle," which lays out an interesting and applicable theory of geopolitics.. It offers new explanations, for example, for the duration and character of historical epochs. It also revisits, in an original way, and provides an explanation for, why history repeats itself. It also offers an explanation for the rise and fall of empires that is rather unique. All of these explanations are integrated in a single unified theory. There are sections that apply the theory to the history of the past two thousand years, focusing on the so-called "West." There is also a chapter in which the theory is applied to the world wars. My interest in sharing this with everybody is that it is possible the theory may be applied to today's situation with Russia, Ukraine, the US, Europe, China, etc. I believe this theory will provide more depth of interpretation, and perhaps lead to policies that differ somewhat from those arrived at through the application of mere realpolitik.
More ads than before, and I paid for premium. Screw you CZcams!
As President pointed out , the West is very populated in small areas........
It is simple, NATO not have a idea what happening after the tehn action!
"Poon" 😂