RIP TF2 Cheaters
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Wait, did Valve actually fix TF2?
After another massive petition calling for action against the bots that have been plaguing every server in the game… they have now seemingly disappeared.
For the first time in a long time, you can now actually play the game. But did Valve actually listen to us? Will this fix actually last? And what does it mean for the rest of Valves games including Deadlock?
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now tf2 players can actually enjoy their hats
You may joke, but college courses have been dedicated to the advanced economy that developed around Team Fortress 2
@@Cheesefist I mean TF2 is the very first complex NFT economy
Finally!
I am the 169th person to like this comment. Nice!
Only furries still playing this old game
the amusing part is that the TF2 playerbase had to deal with cheater bots for so long they immediately get paranoia and ptsd the moment they see a sniper looking up even if it's a human doing it. Just look at Star_'s most recent video.
a dude made a video where he would play spy, disguise as a sniper, and act like a bot. This got people kicked.
Someone also said on Star_'s video that the bot crisis could be used to explain how mass conditioning occurs lol
Yeh this is the reason I was kick they thought I was cheating even tho I was doing the 2nd worse in the team.
I love using high yaw speed and +right right after I kill someone just to troll them. Got me kicked a few times even tho I'm shit at sniper lmao
@@lordjaraxxus5418 were they called InfamousInvictis?
in case you dont want to listen to all the yapping, 1:21 is where the actual video starts.
It's a 10m29s long video. It's probably 10% content spread across 90% fluff.
They don’t deserve to rest in Peace.
The P in RIP meant Piss
P stand for Pieces
rest in pieces
@@jasonofa3633Rip = Rest in Jarate
@@stahduhst rest in mini crits
Meanwhile Artifact could use some bots
I just played 10 hours straight instead of sleeping last night. I encountered maybe 1 cheater but it could have been someone trying to fake it for funzies.
Meanwhile non-cheaters be telling cheaters to go outside, oh the irony
@@fishhhvh weirdo
@fishhhvh I dunno man. Coding an entire bot to play a videogame instead of just doing it or paying for bots doesn't sound like the behavior of people who regularly see sunlight.
Rest in Jarate 🫙
FaceIt introduces Verified, Valve takes away 128 tick servers. Rip FaceIt. If Faceit has Verified Only Match Making then I would play nothing else. I play around 60 hours + a week in casual 10v10.
are those verified queues any good or the same as premium, where you cannot notice anything different other than the fact that you paid to play on those queues?
@@ward7576 I'm not a cs player but I know my friend complains when we duo that I don't have prime queue and the games are terrible compared to his solo games
How you playing cs without prime 😂@austint1151
FACEIT has many more thing better than Valve.
AC, admin team, protection against smurfers, bug abusers and toxic people.
FACEIT is literally click and play, but people are like toddlers now days, "I wanna click play in the game kmeeeeee".
@@UmadImUp On FACEIT you can play without prime. You just need 25 hours of playtime.
Lets not celebrate too soon
Valve has done like this in the past but we need see the results after 2 months time, ban waves have happened time to time but we cant be sure is this actually fixed or bandaid solution
Pretty obvious they are doing this to make people temporarily happy while they pump out the TF2 summer update any day, as well as whatever updates they have planned for CS2 this summer. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the issue with cheaters and bots is back in full force by this autumn
actually expecting an update for tf2 unironically XD
I agree they're doing this to make TF2 players temporarily happy, but not because of an update. They expect TF2 players to switch to Deadlock.
@@Happi___Then they wouldn't bother with fixing the bot issue
It's likely that Valve has implemented some kind of automated system since all the bot accounts are getting banned right after the bot hosters make them.
@@Happi___ wtf would people switch to deadlock? Its not even remotely the same game
Shit, I didn't know there are so many people still playing TF2. Steamchart shows 100K players. This was the only game I played for years when it first launched, it was such a good game. Haven't played anything close to it since.
Well tbf there are a lot of idle bots. A CZcamsr called Zesty Jesus made a video where he broke down the statistics and explained why he believes the real human player count is probably about a third of that. Still big for such an old game i guess, but far from as impressive.
Edit: should have watched the video before commenting lol
The player count has been going higher since the bot banwave
TF2 was and still is extremely popular
He doesn't mean Rest in Peace, he means Rest in *Piss*
Worth noting that bot hosters have gone to make new accounts and they've all been banned quickly.
And one bot hoster shared a blunt and to the point message they got from Steam Support.
What did it say
Finally i can actually use my golden shotgun
1:20
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The janitor was probably done with traversing the spaghetti code
I heard he stumbled upon some commented out section of code that enabled him to dish out game bans. True story.
RIP (Rip in Pieces) TF2 Cheaters, you won't be miss
I wish he was talking about Titanfall 2
Respawn/EA won't bother.
That's what I thought this was for a second..sad 😢 now
Ah yeah, the other source engine TF2...
Honestly titanfall has been great for a while now. Worst you encounter are Cartards, but they were always there
@@lordjaraxxus5418 Learning Titanfall also uses Source Engine was wild to me. But considering the insane movement mechanic in that game, it does make sense.
imagine the game being in a playable state... If only Valve had the money to keep this up indefinitely...
bro look at the game xD every day its architecture gets older. gabe gets older. it isnt worth it for them newer gear works less well with the older software also so they gotta use stonage. you get me? theres just no reason for it. you people need to grow up and move on your whole family is gonna die. stop crying over a game
@@TheRukaslover "Newer gear works"
*CS2 has joined your channel*
less about the money, more about finding people who want to tackle this issue. Would you rather spend your time fighting a non-stop war on bots or instead work on the next gen steam deck/cs/half-life whatever project that valve is cooking up? From what people have said at valve, the work culture is very much find a project that interests you and put all your effort towards it. There's very little incentive to do work like fighting hackers/botters which is grueling, unfulfilling, and thankless work.
@@CR0WYT they meant that newer software and hardware doesn't necessarily function properly with old games/content. new software/hardware simply is NOT being developed anymore with the TF2 engine in mind and that can result in performance issues if not outright an inability for the game to even run. its honestly part of the reason why so many of the recent remakes of games can be so awful.(SW Battlefront 1 for example) the old game engines simply are not compatible in many ways with newer PCs/consoles.
Valve hires industry veterans and people who worked on major projects. None of those people would want or be put to do entry level work like moderating/banning bots 24/7. This is probably some temporary intern or someone drew the short match after that Scout cosplayer was loitering around their offices a few weeks ago and they do this as a temporary solution so people can stop bothering them. Expect bots to come back like they did last time.
zesty jezus sources say that they have been working on the anticheat before save tf2 started
yeah i honestly doubt valve put in the amount of work that would be required to get an anti-cheat that actually works up and running in the time its been since that whole save tf2 thing started. it makes much more sense that they'd been working on it for a while now, and the "save TF2" trend merely got them putting in a bit more effort ot get it out sooner, IF even that.
Re:ad I skipped the Neo for a non-Neo that’s a year old and 20% off. Still rocking pretty well so far, though it did get two dead pixels but otherwise performs pretty well even VR-capable on the 4060.
Give it another 2 months and it will be filled with bots again just like last time
Which is why we mustn’t let up the protest. Last time we did, the bots came back. We must deal with the bot hosts with even more extreme prejudice. Even 4Chan thinks bot hosters are bad.
How can we as adults have healthy loving relationships when Valve has been gaslighting us for the past 15 years... Gaben is drunk weird uncle that we can't help but hate to love.
Congrats on Valve for doing the bare minimum.
And the bot hosters and cheaters are playing victim and crying, "I like the way you beg" Django
In CS2 there's a botfarm that spams a certain religious sermon from youtube. I've only run into 1 blatant cheater in casual since this fix. Whether its for Deadlock's security, or the Source Engine hole the cheaters were using is finally patched, its good to see TF2 in a better shape than a year ago.
0:35 for a second I thought he was Freddie Dredd LOL
now that this demoknight can come out of retirement and come slaying again
This botting issue doesn't only exist in Valve games, it exists in World of Warcraft very rampantly right now as well in both Dragonflight and Cataclysm Classic. Botting seems to have had a severe rise. Due to it's extremely lucrative nature in itself, it's the smartest way for these scripters, hackers, and cheaters, to bot for Stats, Money, Fame, Etc.
It’s also smart for the companies to do it themselves or allow it. if you’re game has now numbers your stocks might drop or you might loose investors….. no company wants to say only 400 people are playing lol
@@wrlck4841 yes while this is true, botting helps in the short term. There are positives to botting, your example is a great one. There are also severe negatives to botting for the long term health of a game's community. One HUGE negative is the economy. It can go either way and inflate creating even the most basic and common items become expensive, Or deflate and have everything become so cheap that everyone is rich and nothing feels like it has ANY sort of value anymore besides personal/sentimental, thus creating an environment of zero personal satisfaction from drops, looting, etc.
@@TheGoobMeista yeah I understand what bots do lol also what I said wasn’t a “positive” it’s literally a company lying to secure money lololol and is like lying about a stock price or anything similar it’s borderline illegal or should be. You just told on yourself thinking that’s a positive lol
My guess here is valve intentionally let the bot hosters and cheaters go rampant on tf2 so that they can train vac live
tf2 still has a competitive scene, it's called rgl and etf2l
Lol
Tf2 community is awesome😊
I am hoping, that they aren't working on game centric fix, but on fix which is in their user base. Bot accounts have to have steam accounts, and usually accounts that are botting, are doing only that, botting. I hope they are building algorythm or AI system, which detects bot users no matter the game. Such a fix would pretty much save all the steam centric multiplayer games and it would shut anyone up who is whining that steam is anticompetitive and anticonsumer.
remeber lads, we don't spend a cent until after the summer event and only if the bots come back. they only get our money back if they keep up the work.
keep coping and seething legit
you know what weve found out, is that, after helldivers 2, mass negative steam reviews always seem to help with the problem a ton. first helldivers, then tf2.
Its not a Rest In Peace, its a Rest In Hell
Overwatch 2 on middleeast server has the same problem but its in competitive ruins it for everyone
I had a guts feels of conspiracies that these bots were much created for some purposes to makes people quits the game and makes game unappealing for some period of time, then those would be former players sold their inventories to some Traders (which i'd assume play role as hostess of that bots) so there would be less some rare grade weaponry circulating around game (because they sold it mostly), so they (Traders) can sell their valuable stuffs at higher prices.
Given how incompetent Valve is, I see Deadlock being filled with bots day 1 lol
There's already cheats ready for the game.
Valve isn't stupid. Imo i suspect that they are implementing and testing new anti cheat measurements in cs2 to have a solid vac in deadlock. And yes there are already cheats for that game, mainly because it's also on the same engine as cs2
@@nautilla4399classic valve. Using TF2 as testing ground for many things like cosmetics, loot boxes, and now anti cheat.
@@XC11301991proof? Its a closed beta how would any invite reach someone who would develop a cheat for it? Lmao
Probably can think it as they secretly implemented some mechanisms into the code or collecting data to detect bot and ban it afterwards, the fact is once the mechanisms been understood by the scripter they will create a new cheating or scripting tool to bypass it. It is better for valve not stating too much on their works, as player I only care they have did something not how they do their job
They will eventually come back in my opinion. We will probably have to do the same dance as fixTF2.
I'm one of the testers, so far in the forums, they are multiple report of aimbot or aimlock in the Deadlock Normal que.
Devin got drip with the dime shirt fr
You could say that tf2'd janitor is weeding out the pests
Lester from GTA V started making videos about games😂
As in, “rest in pieces”.
You know all you need is like 3 profile names to find thousand of copies of them bots. Look for example for names like Proxy Yoshi or Miss Super E i had blocked and reported tons of them so everyonce in a while I check if they are banned but to this day they are still active, you know they are bots because they all show the exact same hours on the last games they played and some all them have the exact same cs go command written in their comment section things of that nature but the most obvious is that a lot of them have the exact same girls picture as avatar.
Still full of bots, check the player count
Atleast most of the sniper cheating bots are gone, of course the idling and trading bots still exist
Let’s hope it stays like this.
I want to know the point of making that many bots. If people stop playing, and stop byuing hats within tf2. Would that not defeat the whole point of the bots to begin with? Whats the point of having a game only populated by bots. You can't crush noobs if no one new joins.
So the source code for an extremely old game, running on old engines, is leaked. "Why are there so many bots?!?! Fuck Valve!!" 😂
?
as someone watching this video on an acer predator: Don't do that to yourself
Coming out and saying "We have fixed TF2, botting is no longer a thing, let's all celebrate!" would be an invitation for hackers to try harder.
Besides, whatever Valve is doing, they can't be sure it'll be a lasting fix, so it's the right move to monitor things for a while instead of declaring victory.
Now only if Rockstar do the same with GTA
My first TF2 game in 2017: 3 spinbots. See you never.
"They do their best to forget they ever made this game. It's like they're ashamed of it"
Bro, I played DoD:S and TF2. Feel my pain
"they didnt want to hate valve"
you should. they dont care about you, they care about profits. and they dont need to make good things to make money anymore, they have gambling addicts to exploit now. and even while thescore releases critical videos about the company in one vid they will gleefully advertise and promote valve's latest skins and further incentivize valve to continue not giving a shit about you
stop talking about skins, thescore. even if you release good vids like this one youre still part of the problem when you get giddy about the latest trend that actually fills these company's pockets
I still remember when Faceit was announced, there was hype. But it died off quick for me, cause I saw it was essentially a lite version of competitive. Yet so many content creators shilled it, and Joeyslapnutz in particular snubbed my opinion for being trash solely based on Twitter follower count. Yet here I am, having seen it for what it was.
And Joey hasn’t uploaded on here in nearly a year
wait 3 months
I think thats a great way of handleing stuff, dont try to make people happy by twitting your gonna do something, do it people will notice
The war isnt over.
But this battle has been won!
Zesty getting the praise he deserves.
Valve hasn't really fixed TF2 they just did the bare minimum to make the game playable
I recently played tf2 again since I just bought a new computer
As much I want to rag on Valve, there are understandable why thing like this took along time.
Since coding is a massive chore, plus the amount of overtime work to make sure it work without it being bypass the next week.
no.there no apps that will have any user after the dev negelcting it for 7 YEARS.this was a bare minimum
@@shalahudin_ayubi2252 Try and write a line of code and develop an anti-cheat.
See how bare minimum it is.
so, Zesty Jesus, is literally a Jesus of TF2, the savior that exposed and spoke the truth on the actual player count of the game being a lot lower than we expect, and exposed who the bots are, said bot hosters and cheaters, and how they really function in the space of tf2 which guided Valve to be able to ban said problematic people
cheater's dont deserve to rest in peace
Its so refreshing to acctually be able to play the game...
CS2/CS makes them the most revenue, the pros and entire scene have complained for years, cheating has been an epidemic in CS for a generation now. FIX CS2 AND PUT IN KERNEL ANTI CHEAT AND BAN THE CHEATERS ALREADY
Cheaters then: Monitor/peripheral level hacks and make new accounts because free game or someone develops a vm that lets people take ram/cache data from the vm and analyze it for cheating software.
@@lordjaraxxus5418higher barrier to entry always good
Finally I can gamble my pain away and unbox 173652 shitty cosmetics and spend 2 minutes unbothered in the actual game.
Gamers need to finally realize that the only way to consistently force change is by making monetary statements. As long as a company is making money and can project to still be making money in the future, they have little to no incentive to do anything. Banking on the goodwill of a company is not something you should accustom yourself to.
I quit 10 years ago due to botting and stacking.
Maybe ill reinstall the game
00:38 - No because laptops are shit :) not enough power - to small screen
When read the title, I think that the only thing to fix TF2 is transferred it completely to Steam instead of the EA launcher.
Nice video. Valve honestly needs to change its approach to its problems. Let's "Communicate through the patch notes" is not enough. I need to know if they are taking active action against the cheaters and bots. Terrible company that makes millions and ignores its games.
your reply is proof that their approach is correct.
@jjb273 you don't know what you're talking about and you are in the minority. This game has been out for 12 years and they ignore the cheating problem and never addressed it. And for your information, Valve makes $50 million each month from CS alone and they can't fix the cheating problem. Your defending a company that doesn't give a ahit about its players.
Who let G E Force get through review
millions or billions from a game that has ~100k concurrent players?
bots are gone for NOW. there is still CHEATERS in the game. dont mix 2 different things togheter
Makes me just cry.. how much they care about there games, same as counter strike... 😢
You didn’t mention how tf2 players also started to review bomb Valves biggest games, which I don’t agree with at all, but hey whatever works ig
The tf2 community is against this idea. We only review tf2 but for some reason people started reviewing other valve games.
If nobody buys the new game they´ll never gonna make an anticheat for their games, but it seems impossible.
Gaming audiences literally can not get their head around valve time after all these decades. And it's hilarious.
wanna know how much valve values their old games? take a look at cs 25y aniversary.
Ok, i'm going to give it another try because I stopped playing TF2 thanks to the swarms of cheaters
After this, when cs2 get clear from cheaters?
lots of bot farms got banned
some people say that doesn't matter, but these bots farm for drops and then sell them to buy prime and gift it to other accounts which then get bought by cheaters
@@cosmicthrillseeker OK OK they do it, but now everything like past, nothing changed at all and they steel farm with cheat dudeee🥲
Nothing changed🖤
I played tf2 once, I loaded into a game, immediately got vote kicked, uninstalled and never played again
We always talk about the devs neglecting us, and that they need to step up the game. No. We as consumers need to step up the game. IF we want to dip our feet in a jacuzzi, WHY do we always settle for it if theres only a portable toilet available? If you want to smell like perfume, why do you smear yourself in with shit? If you dont want to feel pain, why tf do you get your supposed friend to repeatedly kick you in the nuts? We as a playerbase need to uninstall a game that we dont like. We need to show that, if they as a developer, dont care, neither do we. The way we still keep installing, still keep recruiting new players, still buy skins, still buy this, still buy that, only shows the devs that "Yes, we can HEAR them say its all bad, but we can SEE them return to play every day". The only way for the industry to start changing IS IF WE CHANGE FIRST. And that shouldnt be hard to understand. Do you think a revolution starts from within the government itself? No! It starts with the regular people who clearly shows enough is enough.
I don't believe it. Bot is so dominated in TF2 that they should be call game of bot
An ex Valve employees said the TF2 Department are all old employees who are really toxic in their work environment.
Sounds like a reliablly unbiased source...
Source?
@@connorcornwall1404 Not really a source but by one of Tyler Mcvicker Video, don't remember which one.
@@gazingsky7987 well,it will be good if you can provide the source directly
Theres some of Player private their profile and not yet banned also their are some new players downloaded not just the game, they download also the cheats. Like Bruh whats the brain of these people.
Never played TF2, but grats gamers.
You love to see it.
NO WAY
Tf2 only Solved one of the issues they have to deal the Content Drought
"G E Force RTX graphics card" "incredible" 165hz "so lag will be someone elses problem"
something tells me this guy didn't care that much about this sponsorship lol
ripbozo
you aint be missed, cheaters
its playable now. kudos to valve
CS2 next
its almost like valve really doesnt care abt cs2...
Get rid of bots by getting rid of the constant grind in gaming. There is no reason any game should feel entitled to countless hours of your time to unlock some feature or item.
You may be right but this criticism does not apply to TF2. You gain nothing from hitting there.