LANSHAN 1 PRO or 2021 LANSHAN PLUS? 8 reasons to pick the 2021 3FUL Lanshan 1.
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- If you're struggling to decide whether to buy the Lanshan Plus or the Lanshan 1 Pro then I hope this video helps.
I share 8 reasons why I chose the 3FUL Lanshan 1 Plus / XL (the new larger version) over the Lanshan Pro (which is lighter and is made with a more durable silnylon fabric)
*REASON 9 - Lanshan plus fabric is advertised as having a higher hydrostatic head rating than the Lanshan pro (5000mm vs 2000-3000mm)*
00:50 690g vs 760g
01:20 Price
01:56 T-zip door
02:36 Condensation
03:38 Versatile inner
04:15 Ultralight option
05:13 Taped seams
05:51 3 or 4 season options
06:25 Packing options
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all good points but some more relevant, other marginal. I first got lanshan2, then lanshan 2 pro, did all the seam sealing, tie-outs inside to raise the bathtub like in zpacks, replace stakes and guy outs for lighter ones. I thought it will be my ultimate tent :) 1005gr with everything after improvements, but how wrong I was. It took two hikes, week long each, for me to understand that I hate single wall tents, I was wiping condensation with my head and with the foot of my bag every night, but the worst part was when it was windy or rained, all the condensation was not dripping but spraying on me and all my gear. I'm done with that. Last summer I got the lanshan 1 plus, 2021 model, the bigger version of original lanshan 1, (I think what you refer as XL) and with some improvements it weights 830gr(with everything) and I absolutely love it, spacious, huge vestibule and most important condensation stays away from me, now I'm a happy hiker :)
Thanks for the great feedback, I was toying with the idea of buying the Lanshan 2 pro as a two man tent - I'll not be now!
I'm glad the new tent is working out better for you 👍
@@AdventureLite hey, but don't get me wrong, LANSHAN 2 pro is a good tent, light, easy and fast to pitch, totally waterproof, tons of space for one and very comfortable for two, it's just condensation issue was deal breaker for me and it's not about LANSHAN it's about all one layer tents for me. Here it needs to be mention condensation issue depends on many factors: where you hike, what part of the year, how tall you are, how high of the ground you are with your sleeping system and finally how you sleep. I'm 182, sleep on xlite with high loft bag, I toss and roll around in my sleep and finally I hike mostly in Carpathians where even in the summer during the night temp can drop to 0C and condensation is absolutely unavoidable, 😁 just to consider before you write LANSHAN 2 pro off, I really tried to love this tent
I camped in some strong winds with the Lanshan 1 last week. Pitched it really close to the ground and even with 20 - 30 mph winds still got a lot of condensation. Was glad to have a double skin.
The Carpathians look amazing! Have you come across any bears?
@@AdventureLite Almost no bears in Poland, not many in Ukraine, though I run there into bear trails (poops, paw prints and scratched tree bark) most of the bears are in Romania, but I hiked there for weeks and didn't see any, the only bear I saw from far was in Caucasus in Russia. Romanian Carpathians are I think the most beautiful, but Ukrainian are the wildest, you can pitch your tent anywhere as well as have camp fire. Polish side way too civilized 😉
I love you, now you did convince me which one to choose,,, :P BTW... Why did you choose the 1 "XL" when you already owned a 2 regular with mesh ? ( the sagging wind splash argument was cool,, decisive LoL :))))
Excellent video and great help. All that I wanted to see in a comparative, to decide. Very helpful and concise review. Thank you
Thanks Julio 👍
Enlightening, and well explained. Thanks so much. Just the information I needed.
Thanks!
Many thanks for the video. A most 'methodical' presentation - mean and lean. I am expecting more of your good work.
Thanks, I'll try and get some more out soon 👍
Well compressed, concise and valuable comparative material. Thank you. I think it will help many people make a decision. Greetings from Poland
Thank you very much!
Thanks for this, I ordered the Lanshan 1 XL in grey yesterday. My first trekking pole tent. Cheers!
Hope you enjoy it!
All things to bare in mind if ever I upgrade. Thank you
Great Video, helped me to decide between the 1 and the Pro! Ordered the Lanshan 1 2021Version 👍
Cheers Logan, enjoy the tent 👍
You gave me clear reasons to choose it.
That was exactly what I needed🎉 Thank you. Very good video 🌻
Glad it was helpful!
very good advises especially #8., exactly why I always go with 2 layers tent. Thumbs up!
Thank you!
You have sold me, just as long as I can fit in it, as I am 6ft3 also subbed to your channel as intrigued to see more
Thanks! It must be hard finding ultralight tents to fit your frame. This one might be a bit if a squeeze but if your interested Aliexpress is the best place to buy it. Heading over to your channel now 😁
Another great video. I'm a big fan of 3FUL gear, even their dry bags are awesome. I didn't know about the T-zip inner - thanks for that! New sub here.
Thanks for the feedback - heading over to your channel now 😁
Very nice review. Another reason for needing a solid fabric on at least the bottom half of the inner tent aside from winter camping is that here, in the American SouthWest, camping is often in a desert environment. Wind storms will kick up a ton of sand and fine dust that will get in through any mesh tent and coat everything and everyone inside. I'll never own a tent with mesh down to the 'bathtub' again.
Hi David, that's a great point! I never even thought of sand getting blown through mesh into the tent. There's not much opportunity for desert camping in the UK - it must be amazing!
just purchased after your review. So helpful, I was on the fence with the pro but the condensation comment was the big sell. My quilt is 4X as expensive as this tent just shows the ridiculous of upcharging on this stuff. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for the feedback, hope you enjoy the tent! You must have a really nice quilt 😁. You can make savings on most items (including sleeping bags and quilts), but one thing I've yet to find is a good budget UL sleep mat (with a decent R rating).
Love the video!
Thanks for the video. Just ordered mine in the brown color with the j zipper. Total cost was $147 to ship to the United States. Will be using it for late Spring to early fall. I figured for the price and weight I can't go wrong! Will replace my 2 person 4.3 lb Amazon tent. Hoping to get my complete backpack weight down to 21 lbs.
Enjoy the tent - would be great to hear how you get on 👍
best video about the lanshan descision
Thanks!
Very informative thanks
Thanks!
great review !!!
Thanks, hope to do a few more when I get some time to spare!
Good day to you!
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I am enjoying camping ,touring and upload video.
This is so nice advice video!
Awesome!
Have a nice day my friend!
Konichiwa - I was born in Japan (Sapporo) - I hope to return someday soon!
Very nice review 😊
Thank you! Cheers!
good summary thank you,
Thanks!
Very helpful, thanks!
Thanks!
well done sir, sold!
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Hello, I've got the plus/xl/2021. Reason #9, being able to quicly pitch the fly to get out of the wind & rain for a lunch stop! (and it'll packed in 2L dry bag when wet)
Great point!
Great vid mate. Straight to the point. Which one would you recommend for more humid and hot conditions?
You'll get less condensation inside the tent in warmer climates but you'll want a tent with good ventilation (plus might be better?). With the Lanshan Plus / XL you have the option of pitching the inner on it's own on dry nights to keep the bugs off and your kit dry.
I totally agree. The four season inner was the reason I went with the plus. The pro would be too draughty in below zero temperatures. I did need to seam seal the guy attatchment points on the plus version as they leaked during heavy rain (garden hose).
Thanks for the feedback 👍 You're the second preson who's mentioned dealing the guy attachment points - definately something I need to consider.
Do you mean these attachment points for the side and back lashings? What about the top, where you attach your trekking pole? It wasn't leaking there? Has time told you anything else, shown any other problems with this tent?
@@adboroutdoor..7662 Hi yes, the attatchment points allowed water to seep in. The top of the tent is fine without seam sealing. It has been a great tent over the past three years, no problems for me.
Thanks for the answer, I'm thinking about buying it.
@@paulchec3243
THANK YOU!
Thank you so much for the tip about the T-zippered inner tent! I just ordered the plus version.
I already own the j-zippere inner for the lanshan 1 (the red one).
The inner works, but is a bit hard to get in/out, due to my size.
I use the inner under a tarp, or with my tschum 1p kama.
That's great, has it arrived yet? My favourite thing about the t-zip is it allows me to sleep at either end.
@@AdventureLite Yes, I got mine a week ago & did a test setup in the intendet tent (Tschum Soswa 2p). It fits, but is a bit awkward to setup, and requires 2more tent stakes for the back corners. I'm quit happy!
Can you provide a link to the T door inner? Can you buy the plus size rain fly alone? Or do you have to buy the whole Plus tent, then purchase the separate T door inner?
Well done sir!
Why thank you!
Good show thanks
Thank you 👍
Excellent review. I just replaced (well, I actually still have the old one - but don't rat me out to my wife...) my old Lanshan1 with the 2021 Lanshan1 +
Here's an interesting fact for you: The 230cm (XL, or plus version) 4-season inner tent actually weighs less than the 3-season inner! It's only 2/10ths of an ounce lighter, but it's still lighter. 3-season inner = 12.9 oz. 4-season inner = 12.7 oz
Another interesting fact: the Lanshan2 does not weigh very much more than the Lanshan1 +. If you can convince yourself to carry an extra 6 ounces, you can have the extra room the Lanshan2 provides. Tent weights (including tie-out lines, stakes, groundsheet, and stuff sacks) are: Lanshan1 + = 2lb 8oz, Lanshan2 = 2lb 14oz.
Thanks for the feedback - I'm suprised at the weights of the inners!
I have been tempted to buy the lanshan 2 pro as it looks better ventilated than the 1...
That's awesome!
But are we talking about the Lanshan 1 Plus/XL vs the Lanshan 2? Or vs the Lanshan 2 Pro?
@@BrainShake16 both.
Thanks a lot some great information 👍
ATB
Tam
Thanks!
Great Tent
lovely well made vid!
any advice on 1P vs 2P version? (both for solo use)
Thanks! I can't comment on the 2p lanshan tent as I don't own one, I'll get back to you if I buy one 👍
I bought the Pro last year for basically one reason: The old version of the Lanshan 1 was just too small.
Now it's hard to choose again.
But for me, the price for keeping the Pro is no cost, so that will be the deciding factor for me.
If I had to choose today, I'm simply not sure which one I would choose!
I was very tempted to buy the Pro when it came out due to the extra floor space and weight savings (but couldn't justify adding to my tent collection!) When 3FUL bought out the sand colour that tipped me over the edge and made me look at buying one.
@@AdventureLite I’m 6’ 1” . Is the plus version shorter in length?
Hi there. The pro and the plus both have the same sized foot print 230cm x 100cm 👍
@@reecealeck8314 yes and no.
@@AdventureLite I wanted the two person size. The two person regular model is a bit shorter than the pro still. The two person pro seems to be the way to go if you want the two person size.
Fantastic review. I just ordered one. While I wait, I would love to get updates on how the tent has performed in inclement weather. Any word on the performance of the 4-season inner? I ordered both.
I've put some bungie cord loops on the peg out points so the fly sheet lies a lot closer to the ground - this set has worked well on some windy nights. The key is to reduces the gap between the front of the porch and the ground 👍
Good points all, but you've omitted the main difference (which also accounts for the price/weight differential) - the superior fabric used in the Pro (hence its name). 20D Silnylon is going to outperform 15D Silpoly in all but the gentlest of conditions.
I rejected my 'Standard' Lanshan 1 in favour of the Pro purely for size issues, but on receiving my Pro I was immediately struck by the different fabric quality. I suppose a lot depends on the other shelter options (if any) you have within your 'armoury', and I can see it would make sense to go for yours if you own a Trailstar, for example. My Lanshan plays 'second fiddle' to my Hexpeak V4A (which I use with a Lanshan solid inner!).
But both these Lanshans are fantastic tents at their price point and weight.
Thanks Dave, good feedback 👍. Also the reinforcement points look better on the Pro.
On the flip side I've noticed that 3FUL rate the hydrostatic head of Lanshan Plus fabric as 5000+mm and the Lanshan Pro fabric as 2000-3000 (damn that could have been reason number 9!)
Regarding the hydrostatic head rating 5000mm seems a bit high (exaggerated?). Sea to summit rate the 15d sil-pu nylon from their Alto and Telos range at only 1200mm!
@@AdventureLite It's an interesting question, silpoly vs silnylon. Of course the fabrics vary considerably within those groupings as well, but it's fair to say that while (weight for weight) silpoly is more water resistant/repellent, silnylon is stronger. So in practice, while the two tents in question would probably provide similar levels of water resistance, the Pro will stand up to more force trauma.
David, I wouldn't mind taking your reject old lanshan 1 off your hands :P
Good and through review. I already have the pro and for the money l can't complain particularly as l'm of an age when ultralight is more necessity than choice. I've used mine in some very wet and windy conditions and it's held up well. Regarding condensation, as with any single wall tent it can be an issue. However you can mitigate this with a high pitch and l always keep a J cloth handy. However l'm a fair weather camper and at night, unless its really cold or the rain is lashing down l leave the mesh partially unzipped to encourage air flow. Yes the seam sealing is a faff, but to be fair to Naturehike, it is reflected in the price. Space wise, l'm 6 foot and the pro is just big enough. I understand the XL is bigger and l'd be interested to hear people's comments on whether the XL does give more room
Thanks for sharing your experience Mike - great to hear the Pro has held up to some foul weather!
According to the specs on Aliexpress the inner of the Lanshan plus is 20cm longer than the original Lanshan (210cm) and is the same length Lanshan pro (230cm) so I think they'll be very similar in size.
Thanks,this exactly mirrored my own ideas about the Lanshan 1 (v.2021). My one reservation is the inner pitch first issue. In moderate to heavy rain that wd be a negative for me. Have you been able to do a fly pitch first to get out of the weather then wiggle the inner in afterwards without a complete repitch?
Hi there, good question. I tend to pitch the inner and outer together, or if I've packed up when it's really wet I'll pack them sepetate in which case I'll pitch the outer first then the inner which isn't hard to do. Would be tricky to pitch the inner first then the outer although you can use the inner on it's own.
Found this really helpful, thank you. Do you find any issues with the Cricket of Traikstar? I’ve been deliberating which option to go for, but the lanshan as a cheap way in seems good to me with the option to upgrade the outer in the future.
Hi Tom, the MLD Cricket and the Lanshan are very similar in shape. Obviously the cricket has no door which may not be ideal for some people. The material of the Cricket is better quality and likely to last longer. Another big difference is the height - the cricket is 140cm a whole 15cm taller than the lanshan and taller than most trekking poles (people often use a 'pole-jack').
I think the lanshan is a good alternative and if you choose to upgrade you can use the inner with the new tent 👍
@@AdventureLite thanks for the speedy reply, really useful to consider in my thought process. To be honest, the Lanshan seems to do everything I need with no frills at a reasonable price. A Trailstar in the future might be good for more space, but a Lanshan would be a good starting point by the sound of it. Really liked the level of thought you gave to the content of the video - so many people don't seem to talk about the benefit of a separate inner and outer for condensation when packing up - no brainer as a prerequisite to my mind
excellent review
What is the inner dimensions of the XL vs the regular
Thanks! The old inner dimensions were 210 x 95cm. The XL dimensions are 230 x 100cm. I think the height (125cm) remains the same.
A very useful video. Thanks. I've just bought a 1 Plus and had pretty much decided this was the way to go as I prefer double skinned to single but your other 7 points confirmed my decision for me. Do the guy rope attachment points on the sides of the fly need seam sealing? ATB, John.
Hi there! I think the inside of the guyout points has a laminated fabric on the inside (I'd have to check) so you shouldn't need deal them.
@@AdventureLite Many thanks. I used the tent 2 nights ago and love how easy it is to pitch and it's quite spaceous for a one man. I'll definitely get the 4 season inner too, but the T zip option. Thank again. 😀
Hello, and thank you for this video.
I have a question regarding the waterproofness of the tent. You say it's waterproof unlike the "Pro" models and that's also what it says on their website.
But I saw several videos where people were talking about poor resistance to rain despite the sealing. One person even said that it had to be sealed precisely (I'm talking about the lanshan 1 plus)
So I would like to know if you have tested it in the rain, and if it holds up really well. Thank you :)
Hi there, I've not had any issues with water getting in through the fabric or seams and have used it in some heavy rain showers. I have found a lot of condensation inside the tent when I've pitched it close to the ground in high winds.
I'll be honest with you the materials and workmanship on this tent match tents I've bought for more that £500. It's hard to believe but it's true!
Great video! Where do you buy the Lanshan 1 xl? On the website I just see the lanshan 1?!
The link in the description is for the new 2021 lanshan which when it first came out was called the lanshan plus or xl. Just make sure the one you buy has a inner length of 230cm instead of the old version which was 210cm.
What are thoughts on this vs the Asta Gear pyramid tent you reviewed previously?
I prefer the catanary cut and the shape of the astamid - it's a easier to pitch and I suspect better in strong winds. The Lanshan is better made, the inner is much better and I prefer the colour. If 3FUL made a 4 sided catanary cut pyramid tent in the sand colour that would be the best of both worlds!
Awesome review! Do you think that the Plus 4 season version is suitable for camping in snowy conditions? Or will it to drafty and snow will blow between inner and outer? Because I have read in the comments that you can pitch the tent low to the ground. But how low can you do that?
Hi there, self supporting tents are aways going to be the best in the snow but I'd be happy to try the lanshan with the solid inner in the snow unless the forcast was for strong winds. You can lower the tent by swapping the pegout webbing with bungie cords. Getting good anchor points would is be a challenge in the snow though.
Never done it myself, but some do use the Lanshan in the snow. e.g. see this video (Lanshan 2): czcams.com/video/53MLI1cUF9U/video.html
But a free-standing tent should perform better though.
excellent stuff! - have you tried the Lanshan xl inner with your Asta outer yet? I find my 4 season T zip xl inner is simply too big for the lanshan outer and I'm looking out for an outer that is big enough! The stats of the Asta say it's 260cm in length and the Lanshan is 270cm, so it wouldn't appear to work! keep the great vids coming... atb Sinco
Hi there, thanks for the message! I've not tried it in the Astamid but it works well in the Mountain Laurel Designs Cricket which has a similar shape. I think it would be to big for the Astamid.
Thanks for the video. In the link you provide, I can't see any mention of XL or Plus - is that not how they describe it? Is it just the fact it's a 2021 version that's 230 long? I use a large-wide pad and I want to make sure it/I can fit :) Thanks again.
Hi there, when I made the video 3FUL were selling two models, the older 210cm and the newer plus size (230cm). It looks like they've sold most of the old stock so the plus model is now the standard. It's pretty spacious 👍
After contacting the manufacturer, they say that they do not sell the T-door option. I said to them that they make them for other sellers of the tent!
That's interesting, there must be a lot of buyers requesting that option.
Hi Tom. Just come across your channel. Looks great content. Duly subbed to help you on your way and look forward to looking at the rest. Atb fellmandave
Thanks Dave, I'll try and get some more videos out soon (work keeps getting in the way!)
Some very valid points there, I love my Lanshan 1 for good weather camping. On another note, do you still use the trailstar?
Thanks! The trailstar is my go to tent most of the time but when I'm camping I'm the Peak District (where wild camping is discouraged) I've started using this tent as it blends into to the landscape better that the trailstar or the astagear tent.
@@AdventureLite I'm local to the Peak District as well :) my brown Lanshan definitely blends in nicely. The only reason I decided to order the trailstar is because I find the Lanshan is not very good in the wind (tested to about 30mph on Bleaklow)
@@AdventureLite are you on social media? Would love to follow your adventures
@@sameerjoshi515 that would be great! I've got an Instagram account under the name adventure lite. Have you got an Instagram account?
@@AdventureLite just followed you 👍🏽I'm balaram_joshi
Great video! How tall are you? I’m in between the 1p and 2p for size reasons.
Hi there. I'm 5ft 10 inches, I'd say the lanshan plus could fit a 6ft person but no bigger without touching the sides.
@@AdventureLite thanks
I bought 3 season T-door XL (plus) version with inner tent 😊
It's a great tent! Tell me how you get on with it 👍
@@AdventureLite I bought it only today. I watched your video and made the right decision. Thx.
@@eskincat How's your experience with the 3 season T-door XL version? I'm just about buying it but can't find much information for exact this combination (only 4 season T-door). I'm afraid the 3 season T-door could be a third-party addition that doesn't fit as good as the original.
Thanks, just what I was looking for. Except I'm contemplating between 3 options: lanshan 1 "old", lanshan 1 plus, lanshan 1 pro. Currently their prices are 112, 138, 170 usd. I'm not tall, 1.72/5"8 so wondering if I could get away with the normal lanshan 1 and be a true cheapskate :) thoughts?
Hi there, I've not got the original Lanshan 1 but the reviews online look good. I suspect you'll be OK in the original but you might wish you'd bought the bigger size later on.
Hi, and thank you for this video. I'm planning my first long distance hike the GR11 in spain(850km). Would you go with this tent or would you choose something from name brands like Gossamer Gear? The One weights only 584g. 299usd but with taxes and customs fees it would be 361€ for me. Kinda at the limit for me. Or for a hike that long would you go for the Pro?
I'm short so space isn't an issue for me but I definitely want a tent that has a bathtub floor and keeps the bugs outside.
@DJ Ness Yup, just got the Lanshan 1 Pro today. Got it cheaper on Black Friday so the decision was easy.
I mean the GG tent is probably better and if I lived in the US I would have bought that. However 60usd UPS delivery and 24% tax for me was a deal breaker.
Nice one, the material on the pro is meant to be stronger than sil/pu fabric used in the lanshan plus and the gossamer gear one, so I think you made the right choice. What colour did you go for?
Always buy double wall unless you are very very sure about a single wall tent. And the only single wall tent I would consider is Cuban fiber.... if I had the money. Because then you can shake and pack it almost dry in the morning.
I only use single wall shelters without a ground sheet (MLD trailstar / cricket) for that reason 👍
For me, using a single wall tent is not a huge problem. If you have a small microfiber towel or some kind of cloth to wipe the moisture, it won't take long to dry. Besides that, you can always pack it wet in the morning, put it where you can acces it quickly, and when you take a longer break (to eat or to rest a little and enjoy the landscape let' say), you unroll it and let it in the sun. If it's a sunny day, in 15 mins it will be dry.
Being so small and just a single wall, it's not a pain to do that. I was for 2 weeks in Scotland with a single wall tent and in the morning I almost always packed it wet and dry it during the day, when I had a break.
@@agatho00 If you're more experienced and know what you're doing, then a good quality single wall tent might be an option. Quicker to pitch and pack is one advantage. But for most people saving 150 grams just isn't worth it. Carrying around a wet cloth is even heavier. And although it may appear you have more space, once the fabric is wet you don't want to get close with your dry shirt sleeping bag. Also a separate inner can be use in other outer tents or just as a bug nest. Or maybe you jut pitch the outer tent to sit out a rain storm?
The biggest problem with single wall tents is condensation droplets falling on your face. Chinese torture. You'll sleep very bad.
And yes I understand there are plenty hikers who have no problem with their single wall tent. I'm just warning people they may not like the switch from double to single wall.
@@driewielI'm aware of all the disadvantages that a single wall tent has, especially if you're used with double layers, bigger room inside and all that. For those that are not so experienced when it comes to backpacking, it should not be their first choice. I agree with all that.
For me, the most annoying thing about tents like the lanshan 1 Pro, is the fact that sometimes the hood or the footbox of the sleeping bag touches the wet wals, like you said. And drying a sleeping bag (especially if it has down insulation) is much harder thing to do compared with drying a tent. That's why, if the wheather is good, I almost always leave the vestibule open, to let air circulate. But sometimes there's no condensation at all, even though I close everying.
So is there a Plus size T door inner? Or is it just the rain fly that is plus size? I'm confused because I want the extra room but I like the T door
Hi there, that's a really good question. The xl version is now the standard version and therefore they've stopped selling the original smaller size on most of the sites. I'd check the inner dimensions with the standard lanshan before buying.
One point of confusion, if you or someone can help clear up. The aliexpress link provided in the More section "seems" to be for the Pro version (e.g. "Professional", see the URL), and the aliexpress page "seems" to state specs for *both* the Pro version (e.g. integrated mesh, single wall) *and* the XL/Plus version (e.g. separate inner tent, not integrated). Makes my head rattle around in my skull. :) Does anyone have clarity on how to know what one is getting? Thanks for any assist. Woof. UPDATE: I've gone over to the 3FUL website where the options are a bit better laid out, or, at least they're current. As one mentioned below, it's no longer called "plus" or "xl", just Lanshan 1 2021. Or, so it "seems". Hah. :)
Sorry for the confusion! Glad you sorted it out 👍
I like this tent but I have seen some with a huge gap underneath the vestibule which puts me off. ☹️
Hi there, the gap at the front is pretty big (about 25cm) - great for ventilation but not sure how it will perform in a strong wind. I'll get back to you when I find out!
Hello
I am writing to you with a translator, can you tell me how to have just the floor of the room (bath) of the lanshan
Thank you very much
You need to buy the footprint or bathtub only floor separately.
The bathtub only floor is listed under 'Accessories' on the 3F UL website. The footprint is an option on the main Lanshan 1 page.
Putting my engineer hat for a moment:
According to the specs the dimensions are exactly the same between the two but this simply cannot be the case.
Both tents have exactly the same outer dimension, and same length for the bathtub, BUT, there’s at least 10-15 cm between the fly and the inner tent. Same appears to be for the height just by looking at it. This means that the inner mesh has quite a steep angle which in turn means the real length is much less then 230. Also add the fact that sil poly stretches much more than sil nylon and the difference in space can be significant. I wonder how this plays out in the real world.
Are you accounting for the mesh border that fixes to the outer around the edge of the lanshan pro bathtub (10-15cm)?
@@AdventureLite yes. the “wall” is attached to the end of it on the pro models vs the mesh wall of the regular version is inset by the same amount = less space in the regular.
Where is the best place to buy the lanshan 1 in the UK.
I'm not speaking from experience as most of my purchases are on alliexpress but these guys look pretty good
www.woodtowater.co.uk/?
Hi, any idea if you can buy a separate 3 and 4 season inner?
Hello, you can buy both solid and mesh inners separately. I'd suggest buying the Lanshan with a mesh inner and buying the solid wall T-zip inner separately.
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OK.. waiting for video response why to get pro lanshan :)
The Pro is made with a stronger fabric and is, slightly lighter 70g lighter 👍. I'm not planning on getting the Lanshan 1 pro, but tempted by the Lanshan 2 pro...
@@AdventureLite I have 2 pro, didn't get to use it enough yet, but so far I m very happy. only thing I can't decide if it s OK for stronger winds and cold somewhere in late autumn somewhere in Scotland.
wouldn't risk to rely on it in winter, only if somewhere in dartmoor, to try my luck..
hi.. what aboiut the condensation for 4 season tent? have you tried?
Hi there, I've not noticed a difference in the amount of condensation using the 4 season inner, but it would be better at stopping drips falling from the outer skin.
Where can you buy the XL/Plus? I haven't been able to find it on Aliexpress so curious where it's being sold.
Hi there, it was sold for a while as the 'lanshan plus' or the 'new 2021 lanshan'. Most of the lanshan-1 tents on Ali are this model just make sure you get a 230cm long as opposed to the older 210cm long model. I've posted a link in the description 👍
@@AdventureLite I see - missed that. Fantastic! Thanks for the video!
Can you even get the t-zip inners any more??
Hi Mark, sorry for the delay. Stock of the inners comes and goes keep checking Ali and I'm sure they'll become available 👍
Can you still buy the XL or has it now been replaced with a different version?
Yes you can. It's advertised as the new 2021 version - here's a link
￡104.72 31%OFF | 2021 New Version 230cm 3F UL GEAR Lanshan 1 Ultralight Camping 3/4 Season 15D Silnylon Rodless Tent
a.aliexpress.com/_uAq9kz
Most people must regret buying a single skin but won't[ admit it, nothing worse then getting condensation through the night then it soaking your sleeping bag, then having to avoid the sides once up.
I'm really glad I bought the double skin tent. I was camping in the Lanshan earlier in the week in the Lake District and pitched it low to the ground as it was windy (20mph). Even with the wind there was a lot of condensation on the outer tent!
How's the quality of this tent ? The fabric looks easy to tear
Hi there, the fabric on the new lanshan plus looks and feels a similar quality to the sil / pu nylon on the £600 tent I've got (terra nova southern cross). The fabric on the pro is even more tear resistant.
This video is confusing, i've tired searching for the Lanshan 1 XL, I can't find it anywhere. Can anyone advice me as to where i can buy it from.
Hi there, there's a link to one of the sellers in the description. 3f ul make 3 models of the lanshan the pro, the 2021 model (230cm long) and the old model (210cm long).
Where can I get my hands on an XL?
Hi there, I'll put a link on the description. It's listed an Aliexpress as the 2021 lanshan plus 👍
if you prefer a T door, why did you get one with a J?
Hello, good question. Initially 3ful only sold this model with a J door but started selling it with a T door due to popular demand.
Where are people buying the xl from please?
Hi there, there's a link to one of the sellers in the description. 3f ul make 3 models of the lanshan the pro, the 2021 model (230cm long) and the old model (210cm long).
@@AdventureLite found it, ordered one. Thank you for the great review on it 👍
Sorry but number 3 buy another inner rules out number 1 on price
Maybe but you could have a solid inner for autumn - spring and a mesh inner for summer. It's nice to have the option of switching which you can't have with a single skin tent.
no longer called the xl or plus. Its just the newer version lanshan
Thanks for the tip. I think there is still a few of the smaller version on sale so it's important to check the sizes of you want to buy the larger version 👍
I've checked the entire ALiExpress there is no product called Lanshan 1 XL or Plus, there is only 1, 1 pro or 2 and 2pro. Where are these people getting these imaginary versions?
That's a good question. The old version of the lanshan 1 was smaller (210cm x 95cm footprint) than the newer 2021 version (230cm x 100cm). When 3f UL first started selling the new version it was sold under a few names e.g. Lanshan 1 plus / xl. You can find it now listed as the 2021 new version Lanshan 1. There's still some old versions for sale so make sure you check the one you buy is 230cm x 100cm. There's a link in the video description 👍
@@AdventureLite And what's the difference between the current new version and Lanshan 1 pro? do you know there's a version like this?
@@Sir-Kay the pro is a single skin tent - lighter but prone to more condensation. The 'plus' is a double skin, slightly heavier but prone to less condensation. The video explains most of the differences 👍
@@AdventureLite Is there a Lanshan 1 plus somewhere in Aliexpress, I've searched for it and couldn't find it, and is there any Lanshan 2 Plus too? if yes, link please.
@@AdventureLite And any link to the Lanshan 1 4 seasons inner? 'cos I've searched for that too and it doesn't exist too, dude if all these upgrade possibilities you mentioned in the video are no longer available then, it's just a pipe dream in my opinion.
Why do you want to support China? Do you want to live by a social credit score?
Planning a MLD Cricket (US made) vs Lanshan 1 (Chinese made) comparison soon. There both similar in size and shape but I'm not sure which one I prefer yet.
A lot of my gear is made in China (Terra Nova tent, Inov8 shoes, North Face jacket, Hennessy Hammock, 3FUL), some of it is made in Vietnam (Osprey packs, Salomon shoes) and some of it is made in the US (Mountain Laurel Designs tents, Tarptent tents).
Some of the cheap gear made in China is substandard (see my MLD vs aliexpress trailstar comparison) and some of it is surprisingly good.
You know people have "credit score" , "criminal record", "social media shaming" in the west too?
Thanks for the insight 👍 - reminds me of Matthew 7 vs 3-4
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
Great vid and info thanks
Really fancy the XL and how you went through the pros was great .
Just need to hide another new tent from the wife
🤣🤣👍🏕
Atb Graham
Thanks Graham! I try to do a one in one out policy on tents but I'm at the stage there's more coming in than out!