Supercarbaldie First The Aptera in Abu Dhabi
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2024
- Now here is a car that has an offer that is hard to refuse. Just add sun and get free mileage for life. The Aptera, a car created in the sunny state of California has made its debut in the UAE. Supercarbaldie, that's me had a private viewing with this amazing car. This car is covered in solar panels, and if left in the sun will produce 64km per day of solar charge. Now that's free kilometers. It is also easily plugged in to give the batteries a charge that will give you 640 km distance, and get this 30 minutes on a 50Kwh charger gives this 640km. Added to that, the Aptera will comfortably get from 0-160kph its top speed in approximately 4 seconds.
Interested! Then take a browse at aptera.us/uae/ there are 53 limited editions ready for investment.
#aptera #sustainabilitymatters #Dubai #Abudhabi #motoring #supercarbaldie #chronevo - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Thanks for coming to see our vehicle!! Hope to see you again soon. 💚
Why are there no pictures of work done on the Binc ??
Be great to see you guys again. Thank you for having me!
@@shrimptopian3392 Why do all of your comments have exactly one like?
Why hasn't Apple bought you yet?
Seems like the perfect vehicle to adapt and make mainstream
Shake the haters off good sir. This was a great video! Thanks for putting it together.
Surprisingly managed to do all this in about an hour of visit. Thanks @jeffprofessional123 I really appreciate your shared support.
Aptera Fans Have been waiting for this video from UAE. Thank you for sharing.
I am very happy to have been able to share possibly the first on the car here. Thanks for dropping by the channel @dreyzee-vn3kl
Way to go Chris M. The Aptera looked so awesome going around the Yas Marina Circuit. So smooth and sleek. And thanks to Supercarbaldie for capturing this all on video. All of us in the USA are always eager to see Aptera in action.
And smooth it was :) Chris presents so very well too. Appreciate such a thoughtful comment @jewelrcasa
I put in my order a year ago. I can't wait to get mine.
For those wondering the race car noise near the end was not a sound effect :) It was one of our radicals on the other side of the circuit :)
Already an investor and am putting in another 2000 to get my 1000 off, but of course most importantly waiting for my car! Can't wait! Thank you Abu Dhabi!
Thank you for sharing!! Us Aptera fans are eager to hear news of funding being secured so production can commence!!
Super futuristic! This is definitely towards a "type one civilization" generation's vehicle!
It's all about the efficiency.
Bravo California!!! I can't afford one but my buddy just put in an order and invested as well. Can't wait to take a ride in his next year.
Hello! It's great to see the Aptera show prototype traveling around the world, hopefully with less time left before production starts than before.
I would recommend that outside of Great Britain and its colonies, albeit former ones, switch from miles per hour (British Imperial and US customary measurement systems) to kilometers per hour (International Bureau of Weights and Measures). Then, when you look at the speedometer, you will feel like you are gaining speed! Especially on race tracks, 30-50 km/h in a super aerodynamic car is more like grandma looking for a parking space, while 50-80 km/h already feels like road speed and starts to earn respect for your efforts. World perception through numbers on the display screen.
Couldn't be more excited for this car. Can't wait to see it in the metal.
Thank you for the first Aptera video out of Abu Dhabi and that beautiful race track facility! Aptera looks very good there and I hope you enjoyed seeing it first hand.
I spend a lot time with cars and this was one of those memorable ones. And being the first to get this car into the media scene was a privilege.
@@Supercarbaldie_official Given your experience, it's good to hear that Aptera is memorable! Thanks again for sharing it with the rest of us.
We love seeing this on the track in the UAE. (We're so excited for ours... back in California. 🙂) Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for sharing this video. Its awesome to see #Aptera on that racetrack. Chris M, you got to be tighter on the corner!
❤❤ Aptera ❤ ❤
....the wrap!!!! ❤❤❤
The wrap looks great.. but now I'm thinking.. hmmm Star Trek themed wrap!
Thank you for sharing.
Nice piece of solar mobility architecture !
Aptera turning the silver Gamma to GOLD for these UAE limited production offer!
Yes, and hopefully I can get a few images and video later in the year, when that happens. Maybe with happy customer!
Do the 3 motors do torque control ? As he was cornering was wondering it just occurred to me that might also be why it feels so stable
Driving a nice, comfortable and quiet Kia Niro EV (while I wait for the Aptera to get to Europe!) I wonder if the Aptera will be properly noise-treated in the cabin. A comfortable suspension and low noise inside the cabin are really important for an EV
This particular model had no aircon fitted. So, the windows were open. But yes, it will be a silent running car. When you think that the coiffience of the body is .13 compared to that of F1 at .7 then this should be hugely silent in the cabin. Hope that you see your Aptera soon!
you came to Russia at its absolute height the Summer. enjoy
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Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching John. Appreciate your being here.
I ordered 3 of these. Delivery in December 2031.
I swear i saw this in a sci fi movie😮
you did, it was featured in one of the Star Trek movies
My, the trolls are out in full force. 🙄
Aptera has been very open about the delivery of the 53 Union Editions to the UAE in 2026. Yes, we all wish it were sooner. Patience is a virtue.
Agreed. It seems to be easy to misunderstand, but the Union Edition is scheduled to launch in 2026. The Launch Edition is still scheduled for 2025 here in the US. No firm date has been released but it wouldn't be until we see the crash testing.
Watch the video. Chris just said, "There's 53 of them that we are producing first." So maybe he said the wrong thing but what I have realized is the latest info from Aptera is the correct info. All old needs to be ignored.
@@billsmith5960 Here's the direct quote:
"We are launching with a single edition, the [...] Union Edition, IN THIS MARKET." Emphasis mine. Steve Mc Cannon is talking about the UAE market only. Currently plans for release in the US have not been changed, or at least there has been no statement to that effect.
I expect that in mid-May there will be an announcement that Aptera will be building a factory in the UAE that will produce Apteras for the EU and middle east markets, with the Union Edition being released in 2006 as the first Apteras in the UAE. This is just as flexible a date as the 2005 release of the Launch Edition, and if they don't get that big investor they will both slide. But a year after the US release should be more than enough time to order the gold wrap for the Union Edition and make any other tweaks they need to make, without interfering with the plans in the US.
All of the above is speculation and we will not know for sure until Aptera makes their announcement. I'm sure we are all hoping that their announcement is that they are ready to begin production in nine months.
@@richardryley3660 2006? Freudian slip. You can't rely on what that comms expert says because he's no expert - just a lying cretin who has been caught in the past. When Gamma is stripped down we will discover the battery can't go 25 miles; the solar can't get 40 mi/day; and the 55mph (before stripping) was his flat-out speed that was only safe because of the billiard table smoothe and straight bit of racetrack. He's conning you and you are suckers.
@@billsmith5960 You're not very good at comprehension. He was clearly speaking of those 53 being the first produced for that market.
Lol hilarious name 😅 almost fooled me
Say, if they have one in Abu Dhabi, that should let them test how much power the solar panels can provide in that heat. Solar panels usually work best at 77 degrees and drop with every degree above that. Tomorrow will be 100 ambient in Abu Dhabi (and it's only May). Actually, the surface of the vehicle is likely to reach a much higher temperature. Roof solar is installed with room for air flow beneath the panels but that can't be the case with these vehicles. I've seen estimates of over 200 degrees even in more average sun, and most solar panels give up at 185. The Aptera engineers must have thought of this but did they do anything or just ignore it? They should be doing some testing in Abu Dhabi.
He said it charges even in shade. I didn't know that. Exciting indeed.
10 Watts. That's not much compared to its maximum (I calculate 110 Watts for the hood) but for indirect sunlight and depending on the hour of the day that's pretty significant.
With the full solar panels it should get 700 Watts total so under those conditions you would see 70 Watts. Over 12 hours of daylight it averages to 40 miles. So even in the shade or on an overcast day that's what, 4 to 10 miles? It doesn't just drop off to zero. 😂
@richardryley3660 Well, 10 miles a day without direct sunshine is still brilliant. How far can the next best SEV (is that Lightyear) go only on solar?
I have 800W of solar on my RV. I can get 10W at night by parking by a parking lot lamp at some place like a Wal Mart. It seems people need to experience the world of solar on a vehicle that it mobile and understand what it can do. On the other hand, that 10W is OK because it's in an area where the humidity is low and it's locale.
For example, I can camp in Santa Fe, NM during the summer in the national Forest. Super clear, low humidity and altitude of at least 8,000 ft. My solar will crank out 700W even though it's mostly battling with the trees. When in places like VT, same type of forest, 100W at best.
People will see this when they get their Apteras. Plus, winter is not that great either. Plus with the cold chill, the chance that the solar will keep up with that, is pretty much spotty at best. Especially in most places here in the US. I'm only going by real world experience over 7 years of using solar on something that moves around.
@@adimchionyenadum2962 I haven't heard any numbers from any other companies, possibly because they haven't yet gotten close enough to production. However, I would guess 10 miles a day is very achievable. Aptera is estimated to get about three times the range of a passenger car, so 10 or 15 miles a day sounds about right.
You should get even MORE out of your solar panels if you use it for HVAC. That doesn't depend on range. The Aptera has a smaller passenger compartment, and carbon fiber is good thermal insulation, but I bet you could get really good ratings in a passenger car too.
I'm looking forward to seeing Aptera make solar cells for other car manufacturers. Lightyear or the like might even enter into a partnership with them, depending on how their solar panels do after release.
@@richardryley3660 The glass area into Aptera is large and the cabin is larger than most five-seaters because of that enormous area behind the seats that isn't blocked off so the HVAC (if it ever gets one) will be overworked. Your claims are wrong.
Room for our golden doodle too?
There certainly is. The space is quite deceptive. Looks small but takes so much.
cool but those headlights don't seem to be sufficient? Are they bright?
The headlights as I understand are US federal mandate center light because it is classified as an autocycle. Definitely not optimal. The car has a lot of little compromises. If you compare it to a motorcycle instead of a 4-door sedan it’s pretty luxurious and feature-rich.
Yes, even those this car is a final stage production model, those lights are pretty good.
If the UAE has different requirements, Aptera may release the Union Edition with dual headlights. They already have a design, which was used on the Alpha prototype. They had to switch to a single headlight for the US market.
This could also be true for the EU, or any non-US market for that matter. It seemed like they were eager to show off the dual headlights.
How much of that 65 km will be eaten up by air conditioning? There's lots of sun in Abu Dhabi for charging; but, that it's going to be really hot too! When you were giving the vehicle a trial, did you try filling the rear tire with air? It's supposed to be possible but I'd like to see if an ordinary person can do it.
It’s a good point on the air conditioning. Though I will say that modern units are pretty efficient, but to add the car is built in California where heat can be almost similar to the Middle East. But nevertheless great question. And the wheels all three have an easy system to remove the covers for pressure and off course checking brakes etc.
@@Supercarbaldie_official About that rear wheel. I've seen videos where the cover has been removed, and a rendering video with a flap for air. But those ideas are fine for a mechanic or even a young man who doesn't mind getting dirty. But I still can't imagine most ordinary customers wanting to do that, especially older drivers, women, and anyone in business work clothes or better. It's because of this unique wide tail with a wheel in the middle that you appear to have to get under.
@@BeerStein it is not as bad as you make it sound. However, in a world full of critics have you ever had the absolute perfect car. Checking oils, topping fluids, four sets of brakes and on. There is always something a little uncomfortable to do, and always some nice people to assist if you don’t want to do it.
'1,000 liters of interior space' makes me suspicious because that is such a big round number & 'lots of cameras'? i thought there are only 5 (a few). i'm excited to learn what the stopping distance is because aptera is so extreme
Yes the space is huge. If I had some golf bags or similar I would have placed them to show that size. I could have put four side by side in there. And stopping distance I am not sure of, however, electric vehicle motors in general do have a high engine braking when releasing the gas. Have you ever had to cruise behind an electric car and wondered why he slows without brake lights quicker that you with them.
I am used to F1 cars flying around that track! , But that was so cool.
Being in it was cool. The handling is great!
Love this vehicle! But come on they would not let you go faster than that. On a race track we all want to see it slide a little. At least faster than my grandma drives.
This is still a prototype and will likely be giving many rides. The production intent validation vehicles will be showing off what they can do in a few months.
My wife and I have both ridden in an earlier prototype, and the acceleration FAR exceeds that of our present car. It is a BLAST to ride in. 0-60 is faster than the original Tesla Roadster.
I know what you mean. However, there are times, and I know this as I instruct here, that speed is somewhat restricted by the circuit. Maybe next time and @chris will be setting a solar car record at yas. 😄
In the future can we get sodium ion batteries?
Aptera is a continuous improvement company and will go with the best choices available at the time of production.
I sent them an email asking just that... and also if we could self install them. Would be fantastic to just slide the old ones out and the new ones in. From the diagram in this video it looks like perhaps that could be the case. I read that they are very pro right to repair folks, so I've got my hopes up! ... though still have yet to get a reply.
These IWM need cooling, how is cooling solved in this car?
In the current design there is an internal radiator fed with air drawn in at the base of the windscreen and exhausted through the rear panel on the tail. There is also skin cooling through the belly pan. The plan is for skin cooling to take over more of the thermal management as the design is perfected.
@@robertkirchner7981 I cant see any cooling pipes going in/out IWM
The HVAC system is cooled by a conventional condenser that is cooled by fan driven air that comes in under the windshield. There are two separate cooling loops that run antifreeze -a high temp on for the motors and inverters, and a lower temp one for the battery pack that the HVAC system can assist.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I cant see cooling pipes going in/out in this video.
@@SOBENJAThis is the Gamma prototype, it is not equipped with HVAC. Or if it is it is a much different system.
2:28 - some wind-powered “vehicle” in the back; Iwas blow away.
Haha, yes. 😂
Be quick, Tesla is gunning for you next. They are showing images of a 3 wheeler.
Did I hear Chris correctly? Did he say towards the end, that the solar can give 1600 kilometers per year of solar charging? Should he have said 23,000 kilometers? Not a good thing to say to a possible investor.
Not sure what an accurate number would be but it would be much lower than 23,000 km. They have always said that the Aptera will get UP TO 64 km per day. So on an ideal sunny day on the longest days of the year. During the shorter days and cloudy days it will get less which will vary by location so it's going to be hard to generalize.
Chris probably meant to say ~16,000 km per year of solar charging. Aptera claims ~11,000 miles per year in sunny climates. 11,000 miles = 17,700 km.
It needs a real steering wheel. That Tesla-style yoke looked awkward to handle.
Unfortunately they have taken far too long to get the finished product out. Rather buy a BYD, cheaper with better tech.
A 50kw charger, charging a 45kwh battery full in 30 minutes.... explain
I think he misspoke on that one, I think it will take 30 min to go from 20% to 80% which is what most EV owners think of as empty and full.
@@wineberryred
You cannot go from 20 to 80 in 30 minutes either on Aptera.
Most ev charge at 3c Aptera only at 1c
Good to hear that the 53 will be the first ones.
Hi Bill, thanks for your comment. I have the feeling they will be secured very soon.
@@Supercarbaldie_official
Been looking for real investors for 2,5 years without luck, but you never know
The first ones in the UAE.
@@GoClimbARockEh - Nope. Listen to the video. Think about it, was it banned by Aptera to be on the accelerator program if you were in the UAE? I never knew that. #1 is from South Korea. Yet UAE was banned from reserving one of those 2000?
@@billsmith5960 The first ones will go to Accelerators, and then the Paradigms will be delivered. The 53 UAE models come after those.
Chris McCammon should have said Aptera generated 10 Wh instead of 10 W.
Am I wrong?
And btw, he should also said that is equivalent to one mile free energy from the shaded sun.
You are wrong. At the instant in time he was speaking Aptera's hood and dash solar, in total, were generating/producing 10 watts of POWER. If the 10 watts stayed continuous for 1 hour it would have generated/produced 10 watts x 1 hour = 10 watt-hours of ENERGY. As Aptera is purported to consume 100 watt-hours of ENERGY per mile of travel (at likely ~50 miles per hour) it would have been able to only travel about 1/10th of a mile.
@@bobhilder1469
Yes you are right.
Thanks.
Aptera should build in sunny Florida. We need manufacturing jobs and this is the perfect place to make sales.
At the same time, if you're not offering jobs, you're probably not interested in making us customers.
#Aptera
They're plenty of places that need jobs, California included
@@GoClimbARockEh I believe this is where the founder began. If he chooses to stay in the highest taxed state in the nation, that's his business.
@@Gargamoth I worked for a startup in California. We spent a lot of time looking for a better place to move to, and in the end, all things considered, we found out that this is a myth. This is one of the reasons you see so many startups in California.
Are non-compete clauses legal and enforceable in Florida? Yes? That's one reason why founders like California: you can immediately pull in talented engineers experienced with similar systems from competing firms.
Once Aptera is fully established and turning a profit, they might consider moving elsewhere. And n.brucenelson5920 is right: the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the state line, "all things considered".
(But if and when it is, I'm sure Aptera's board will consider it, if it wouldn't be too much of a distraction for the company)
Tesla is about to drop this same vehicle but fully autonomous and cheaper. Took Aptera way too long
Autonomous still has a little way to go I would say. The world is still looking at the results and responsibilities. And having seen incidents like this, futurism.com/the-byte/footage-self-driving-tesla-train, I sense my thoughts are relevant. Alters are here at the right time. There is much to had by such a car.
@Supercarbaldie_official you talk like you have any knowledge at all but clearly you're an idiot. My car drives me everywhere everyday. You cannot purchase an aptera they have like 5 prototypes lol
cant even spell your own name right in the vid. "Supercasrbaldie" ?
00:50 What is this "real meaningful range" then? No data has ever been published so I've been left to make my own estimates. I'd say that 6 miles a day is the upper limit.
up to 40 miles of day in places like California and Dubai. Less elsewhere
If to run on solar Alone, I am to believe a full day in the sun, which let’s say is 8 hours, will give up to 40 miles but that would be driving conservatively. So the more you decrease the hours in the sun obviously the more likely you use electrical charging.
IF "full solar" (solar on hood, dashboard, roof and hatch) and in a very sunny location in the summer time and vehicle is oriented properly, Aptera should be able to collect on the order of 4 kw-hours of energy from the solar panels in a single day. IF Aptera can, indeed, get on the order of 1 mile per 0.1 kw-hours of energy at a reasonable speed (on the flats), it should be able to travel on the order of 40 miles ((4kw-hours)/(0.1 kw-hour/mile) = 40 miles).
@@alainchuzel8341 There sure are a lot of caveats to the ~40 solar miles per day thing! I'm pretty sure most Aptera owner's will be disappointed with the solar miles that they actually get....
@@johnreeves7261 Most Aptera owners will understand what "up to" means. Many of us who are early adopters have the engineering background to calculate our own expectations.
He had one lap. He should have let it rip, just saying.
Other:
Why the inset of the old suspension, why not the Roush variant?
And for once, can we see how much energy is being consumed at speed?
Just once.
Run it down the road in 2 directions and show the power consumption @ 65 mph.
Supercarbaldie likely does not realize that Aptera has yet to publicly demonstrate its power consumption or range, it's only "projected it" in exchange for extracting 10's of millions of dollars from the general population.
Joy rides including shutdowns, parking lot sprints for the cult, and now a lap or so.
At that rate, was he told Aptera is more expensive than Formula 1?
I was wondering why they used a photo of the old suspension too. Maybe they just grabbed one from the web.
I think we will get a lot more real life info once the PI's are built
Maybe someone like Car Wow or Throttle House can get their hands on one eventually.
This is a prototype made with non-production parts. The math is pretty simple though. We know how much drag is from the air and from the tires, how much the motors consume and how big the pack is. Most car makers know the range a new design will get before production. Prototypes also lack things like stereos and A/C, but nobody ever mentions that.
If you make 3 prototype cars and spend $60 million in operations, then you can argue the cars cost $20 million each. That doesn’t make them $20 million cars in the eyes of the market. The term “extracting” suggests people are unwilling to part with their money. Some of us want to encourage a future where transportation uses less money and resources. We vote with our wallets. That doesn’t make fans “cult” members.
The reason it is here is to get large private investment so they can get to production. It will cost at least another $50 million to get to production, then an IPO will “extract” more money from cult members to get us to profitable scale.
@@TheScottShepard Your explanations are spot on and make perfect sense to anyone who is willing to listen. Hellman on the other hand is a nitpicking naysayer who will twist or distort anything he can to push his 'negative nancy' agenda. For some reason, Aptera has a few constantly appearing naysayers who troll any and all Aptera videos spewing out their nonsense about how the company is 'fooling all of us' but NO, not them--they KNOW and are wise to this game....YEAH RIGHT. I'm discovered that no amount of real FACTUAL: information ever soaks through their thick skulls.
I call it opinion…
With all accolades to the A game crowdfunders, I suggest they should have never represented that they could become viable manufacturers.
Reminder that virtually every “recurrent naysayer” set out to buy one of these, and their due diligence unfortunately comes back with some things that fall into the “Oh hell no” category.
It’s not about the quest, it’s about the red flags.
88” wide (when it could have been
Thumbs down for name stealing
Better get that UAE billionaire soon, or it's over and out
This is not as huge a price than you may think, considering the tech and longevity of the car
@@Supercarbaldie_official
What is not a huge price, the 52k ??
@@Supercarbaldie_official
To really start production they need 200 million or more
@@shrimptopian3392He means the amount an UAE billionaire can pour into Aptera without feeling it.
@@adimchionyenadum2962
Rich people don't like to give away their money
The Aptera is a failed concept. The problem is there is no demand. Another problem is interest rate dot plot. Many car manufacturers are about to go out of business, like Polestar and Lucid technologies. Not a great time to try to relaunch your failed project. Horrible timing
I agree about the timing. However Aptera is doing a better job of managing their money than Tesla did at the beginning and the demand, as measured by paid preorders, FAR stronger than for the first Tesla.
@@n.brucenelson5920 yeah, but Aptera can’t compare itself to Tesla. That’s a different era. The first wave of evehicles has already arrived, and Aptera has missed that boat - and is trying to launch on the back of the initial wave of buyers on a pull-back in ev demand curve, and heading into interest rate “higher for longer” scenario. Bad timing all around.
@@JamesJacobson-ov4ps I don't see Aptera comparing themselves to Tesla, but I can. I worked across the street from Tesla in 2008, and have also seen the Aptera factory. Tesla had FAR less demand for the Roadster, and didn't do nearly as good a job as Aptera has in managing their resources.
The need for a more efficient vehicle for couples and singles has not gone away and no one else has stepped in with an alternative.
@@JamesJacobson-ov4ps I was inclined to believe that too until I heard that they only need to sell 6,000 to break even. They're so much less complicated and expensive to build than a typical car like a Tesla that they can only cater to a niche market, never reach mainstream, never reach Tesla numbers, and still be a profitable, successful company. 6,000 is not a hard number to reach in a niche market in a globalized world. That was what made me hopeful aptera would stick around this time as long as they secured funding, which they have. I'm not saying it's impossible to fail, but I want one of these and I think I'll be able to get one eventually.
How much money did they slip you to make this video, and did they insist on seeing the final cut before you uploaded? Here are some observations on first watching:
The shade was a half-shade, as the wheels were still making some shade, so the solar should have shown something. He drove around where it was full shade so he should have pointed to it displaying a bigger gain. You should have watched for it and remarked, yourself. You should also have observed the range to empty and the battery status and compared with the end of the lap readings. He should have let you drive; there have been many who have been allowed to drive it on the street. He drove a max of about 55mph on the straight and slowed to under 40 on the curves when race cars can take them at 200+. Why didn't you ask him to open it up? Why was he so slow? The circuit is as smoothe as a billiard table, but the in-hub motors are still dangerous at speed - that's why. It has never done 100mph or 400 miles of range or recharged in 30 minutes - all of which you could have caught him out on if you weren't being paid is my suspicion. I will copy and paste this to my last two videos because I fear you are a blocker.
This was not a final production car. But thanks for your sharing your opinions and feedback.
@@Supercarbaldie_official I never said it was a final production car so no need to make that excuse. Chris said the EV he was standing beside could do all those things, and he's lying. You could have caught him out. You have not answered my concerns, either. Been paid? Had to get approval to upload? Don't have the nouse to properly scrutinise the item you sat in? These extra comments are also going in my last two videos. If you don't improve I will paste them in my last ten videos.
Mr Aussie Man... Still Accusing people and Aptera... No one wants to watch your Hateful video Channel except just maybe 15 of your relatives.... we know, your opinion does not matter, its just baseless Rants against Aptera. You lack credibility...
hope you have a good day. Think Positives always, don't let the devil consume you its not good for your health.
Give it a rest, Aussie.
@@TheDapperham You wish.
Why is the door opening?