How Albedo (And Rhinedottir) Can SAVE Khaenri'ah (Genshin Impact Lore and Theory)[v4.7]

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  • čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
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    I NEED MY ALBEDO SUSTINENCE - this video came from me wondering "okay so if Rhinedottir's basically a war criminal, then Alice is a saint for letting Albedo in Mondstadt and giving him a lab."
    Also, sorry for the voice being a little scuffed. I have the travel tiredness kicking in.
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Komentáře • 71

  • @ZetaMoolah
    @ZetaMoolah Před 20 dny +150

    Sometimes I wonder if Hoyo regrets making the Albedo events so deeply connected to the lore

    • @tartagliasjigglydworshipper
      @tartagliasjigglydworshipper Před 20 dny +33

      it may be the case for the first event. but they literally doubled down on it a year later so i doubt they care.

    • @hellother52
      @hellother52 Před 20 dny +3

      why regretting?

    • @Makingthemarks
      @Makingthemarks Před 20 dny +11

      @@tartagliasjigglydworshipperthat event was amazing, I wish they made a comeback or second event like that now instead of us relying on dainsielf to come back each time for a small lore drop and a 45 min archon quest

    • @hanin3128
      @hanin3128 Před 20 dny +8

      ​@@hellother52that not one but two of Albedo's limited time events is very very crucial to his character lore, the first tell us he's an alchemical human created by (now known as) The great sinner Gold, the second dives further towards that but with the added bonus of murdery sibling reunion (to which he has a lot from dragons, to plants to unicorn) him and Xiao always get their character development/lore only during limited time events😅

    • @callmeandoru2627
      @callmeandoru2627 Před 20 dny +1

      @@hellother52 It's hard for people who come later or don't play events to learn about the lore.

  • @ZE.brigitte
    @ZE.brigitte Před 20 dny +61

    I personally think that Rhinedottir is dangerously curious
    Basically, she want to improve, learn new thing, but at the same time she is not scared to use dangerous method
    For example, we know that she want to be seen as a mother, I mean, Durin and Elynas both literally call her "Mother" and see the other creation as sibling. Something that is shared with Albedo, despite the fact he refer to her as "Master", he also consider her the closest thing to his mother, and refuse to call Alice "Mom"
    However, they are also very dangerous, and while they don't mean any harm, they can easily lose control of themself and unconsciouly hurt other, literally.
    And I think that why the Magnum Opus is so important. The little wolf shit are barely a part of this, and they hurt basically everyone, because they are failed experiment. They literally are accidents
    Durin and Elynas work as the blackening, they are aware of their surrounding, but like the wolfs, they can get corrupted and hurt other, without meaning it.
    Albedo, being the whitening, is more mature than the other two, and he have less chance to lose control of himself, however, the chance are not zero. Also, something I noticed is that Durin and Elynas specifically lost their control during the cataclysm. Which make me believe there are some factor that can make them loose themself. Which is why I believe that Rhinedottir left Albedo when she found the artefact, we don't really know what it is, however, it is suspected to be like a gnosis, in some way. Which would explain why she left Albedo.
    And why Mondstadt ? Because of all the nations, it's by far the most welcoming (If you aren't a Lawrence) and the least dangerous, in some way. I mean, compare it to the other nation so far, people are probably the happiest over here. And there is also like you said the remain of Durin, and Alice.
    And, if he ever lose control, the people there are powerful enough to stop him. And, while it probably wasn't foreseen by Rhinedottir, he have 2 stalker that will be able to tell the other before thing get out of end. Also one of them could probably defeat him by himself

    • @Bharathsimhareddyellanki
      @Bharathsimhareddyellanki Před 20 dny +2

      who is the person able to defeat Albedo by himself in case Albedo loses control

    • @ZE.brigitte
      @ZE.brigitte Před 20 dny +4

      @@Bharathsimhareddyellanki Like I said, Dainsleif
      And the Traveler
      I also believe that the Mondstadt character combined could have a chance. Especially if Varka come back

  • @FlashKillerX
    @FlashKillerX Před 19 dny +7

    The Khaenr’ian sinners are interesting because they could either be sympathetic characters genuinely trying to advance and protect Khaenr’iah, and being deemed sinners by a corrupt Celestia. Or they could be truly evil and the catalyst of the downfall of Khaenr’iah as Dainsleif tells us, and their abyssal corruption could be guiding their actions more than their willingness to preserve life and their home land. It’s hard to say right now, but I expect these characters to eventually become sympathetic the same way we’re supposed to be sympathetic to the abyss sibling who themselves are corrupted by the abyss. I guess only time will tell

  • @YuaHaruna
    @YuaHaruna Před 20 dny +30

    ..i feel like Albedo was a prototype for Khanreiah creating their own Archon like being. He has so much in common with some of the other Archons.

    • @Pa1ton
      @Pa1ton Před 20 dny +6

      for one
      his constelation being literally him
      and the names

    • @IMtiredal
      @IMtiredal Před 20 dny +4

      @@Pa1ton Eh, Scaramouche is him but he was a god once but the same goes for Yae Miko, but she isn't a god. Its literally her but as a fox.

    • @Pa1ton
      @Pa1ton Před 20 dny +2

      @@IMtiredal both had gnosis at some point and are related to the archon

    • @IMtiredal
      @IMtiredal Před 20 dny

      @Pa1ton But does having gnosis really make their constellation themselves? Look at Furina. She never had a gnosis

    • @Pa1ton
      @Pa1ton Před 20 dny

      @@IMtiredal genshin is werid. It's more like having great power, since xiao technically also has himself

  • @lnsflare1
    @lnsflare1 Před 20 dny +9

    Khaenri'ah flipping the last two steps is a lore thing rather than an error, as notes in the Narzissenkreuz Ordo Tower show that they thought that Khaenri'ah made an error in the procession of alchemical colors because they were more focused on gold (presumably wealth/food production) rather than trancesion, or something along those lines.

    • @mitab1
      @mitab1 Před 20 dny +1

      And because they went, black, white, then red means that the red stone that khaenri'ah had was flawed

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 Před 18 dny +2

      And if I understood Narzissenkreuz correctly, he implied that Khaenri'ah sought more abstract truths (rubedo), in order to obtain material wealth (gold), and of all the material wealth they preferred food for their people, because Khaenri'ah was not a place for agriculture.

  • @kiomori
    @kiomori Před 20 dny +16

    I'm always down for some Albedo content!

  • @luxberry9634
    @luxberry9634 Před 20 dny +9

    Great video from the Great Aster :D
    Though I like to add to 5:40 that not just Albedo but Khaenri'ah itself saw Citrinitas (Gold) as the final stage in place of Rubedo which is being called out by a note ,from I presume Jakob, inside the Tower of Ipsissimus.
    Which makes you wonder why it is not Rubedo considering the Dynasty which was all about Alchemy is called Crimson Moon.

    • @ChillwithAster
      @ChillwithAster  Před 20 dny +3

      I wanted to point this out in the vid but I couldnt find the Marechausse reference so I thought I Mandela effected myself

  • @TanyaItkin
    @TanyaItkin Před 19 dny +2

    It's interesting that most assume Alice is a good or nice person, considering her attitude towards abusing hilichurls, seemingly just for the fun of it. Quote from the Teyvat Travel Guide: "What if we build a huge spining, ball-shaped cell in the center of the valley and threw all of the hilichurls into it? that way we might be able to generate enough energy to power all the mills in monstadt for at least five years..." She then suggests turning old and weak hilis into food for the stronger ones. Since she must be aware of the origins of hilichurls and the possibility of them being sentient, I really can't assume her to be a moral or good person, who cares about Monstadt and its inhabitants.

  • @SoulHydron
    @SoulHydron Před 20 dny +5

    Oh dang, i judt noticed u upload like everyday. We rly appreciate ur vids but make sure not to burn out! Its ok to take breaks, and making sure ur having fun maaking these helps make them better 2 ❤

  • @holumiisnotacheeseplsstop

    I’ve seen a theory on tumblr, that Rhinedottir was inspired by Neuvillette to create Albedo. Before the Primordial Human project, Rhine had been creating dragons (and rifthounds), which includes Durin and possibly Elinas. During the time Albedo was created, Neuvillette was already in Fontaine, so Gold might have already known that a dragon sovereign can take a form of a human, hence she changed the subject of her research. Parallels between Albedo and Neuvillette were also described; both were expecting some sort of foretold tragedy, whether it is “losing control” for Albedo, or Fontaine getting flooded. The later came true, however not in a way it was expected; it ended well, and Neuvillette also mentioned that he learned the “truth” about people. Albedo is also trying to uncover some sort of a “truth of this world”. And Rhinedottir leaving him to learn social interactions fits here, since this may be closely related to the truth he is seeking for. The Philosophers stone also may contribute to it, and going berserk for Albedo may not be what he thinks it would be.
    There was more to this theory, focusing a lot on gnoses, Rhinedottir, and, what was the main point, what is she going to use the Heart of Naberius. I just summarised what I remembered, because this theory is SOMETHING for me. It is by monards on tumblr, quite long one, but definitely worth it for lore theories enthusiasts.

  • @steindoesnothing
    @steindoesnothing Před 20 dny +3

    YESS i love albedo being the main character

  • @Frazzled_Chameleon
    @Frazzled_Chameleon Před 20 dny +1

    I wonder if Gold/Rhinedottir is trying to make use of Remus’ “imbue golems with consciousness” technique. Is the loom of fate project linked to it? Is she working with the Abyss to create their own leylines and version of Irminsul as their own Phobos?
    If they are able to mass-produce homunculi like Albedo, they could transfer the consciousness of the cursed Khaenri’ans into those bodies and save them. The homunculus bodies would not be under Celestia’s domain and so could not be affected by any future attempts to curse them.

  • @dan2800
    @dan2800 Před 19 dny

    I'm hoping that he will be important later in the story once we get to khaenriah

  • @angelvang8460
    @angelvang8460 Před 20 dny +2

    Albedo 😍❤️ I love him.

  • @darnedbloom
    @darnedbloom Před 19 dny

    Hey Aster, I wanted to asked if you still plan to make WuWa content. It sounded like you really liked the game but I haven’t heard you talk about it at all in a long time

  • @panteganamuschiata1
    @panteganamuschiata1 Před 20 dny +5

    Good job, thanks for the thought and theory. I'm on the "science for the science" path, btw, and...was Alice depicted under a "good" light somewhere? Because i've never seen her as a "good" entity.

    • @mitab1
      @mitab1 Před 20 dny +5

      Yeah Alice genuinely sounds like someone who doesn't really care about human lives and is treating teyvat like it's a game, she destroyed parts of old mondstadt to make it look older without any respect of it's history, also she's soo careless and dangerous zhongli himself had to make sure she goes through liyue without blowing up the country

    • @kctoygacha5069
      @kctoygacha5069 Před 19 dny +2

      I think we get the sense that she is "good" because Klee puts good word for her, and Mondstad refers to her with amusement. But yeah, basing on actions alone, I would say Alice fits more into "Chaotic neutral" territory

  • @adamcobb7892
    @adamcobb7892 Před 18 dny

    I was hoping Albedo would be a big char only bc he's my fav Male unit besides Ayato.

  • @TheycallmeMr.L
    @TheycallmeMr.L Před 20 dny +3

    Would it be a stretch to think that Rhinedottir would be similar to RuanMei?

    • @Blackfox1412
      @Blackfox1412 Před 20 dny +1

      The same thought crossed in my mind too.

    • @islemtrabelsi8369
      @islemtrabelsi8369 Před 18 dny +1

      Probablly not, they act on a very similar if not same way

  • @Cr0wBe3
    @Cr0wBe3 Před 20 dny +3

    Ooo early

  • @Mangacide
    @Mangacide Před 17 dny

    Albedo is safe with Alice because Alice has seen FMA/B.

  • @thiagosnet
    @thiagosnet Před 20 dny +2

    So, Albedo is basically Twilight Sparkle?

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 Před 18 dny

      I am not very familiar with the lore of MLP, but they seems similar in many ways.

  • @tastyfood2020
    @tastyfood2020 Před 20 dny

    Lisa is also so suspicious

  • @juliekm6495
    @juliekm6495 Před 18 dny +1

    Where is Rhindaughttir right now? Why is she not helping Albedo, when she caused much of the curse in Khaenri’ah?

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 Před 18 dny

      We do not know. Nobody has seen her since she discovered the Heart of Naberius.

    • @ishtarinanna4478
      @ishtarinanna4478 Před 2 dny

      It seems she isn't entirely ''sane'' with rare moments of lucidity

  • @juantrapasso
    @juantrapasso Před 20 dny +2

    Who is rinedottir?

    • @pushpendrakushawaha5987
      @pushpendrakushawaha5987 Před 20 dny +3

      Albedo's master

    • @Snow_therealone
      @Snow_therealone Před 20 dny +2

      @@pushpendrakushawaha5987 albedo's creator/mother*

    • @davestew5135
      @davestew5135 Před 20 dny +1

      ​@@Snow_therealoneIsn't that the same thing?

    • @danielm5535
      @danielm5535 Před 20 dny

      Rhinedottir was the head of Alchemy (specifically a version called Khemia) in the godless nation of Khaenri’ah. She brought forth monsters during the fall of the nation. (I read ambiguity that some say she created, but other references seems like she accidentally released the monsters…) She survived the Calamity 500 years ago and has been working in the background since. She’s part of the group of witches known as the Hexenzirkel and is referred to as “a Sinner”.

    • @EthHawke94
      @EthHawke94 Před 20 dny

      Bruh

  • @kaiser916
    @kaiser916 Před 20 dny

    1 minute gang

  • @kotarouinugami1745
    @kotarouinugami1745 Před 18 dny

    The problem with this analysis, is that you're thinking way too rationally. From what we know of Hexenzircel, they were not like that. Even though each of them is/was a great scientist.
    Rhinedottir genuinely loved her creations as her own children. If she left Albedo behind, that's because she believed it would be good for him. And if she truly wanted to know the truth of this world, she would have been more specific in her query. That was clearly meant to keep Albedo busy until he is wise enough to take his own path.
    Alice is not a wise protector of reality, but a grown-up version of Klee, who messes up things constantly, and remodels archipelagoes into tropical resorts for her daughter.

  • @Jack_Ss
    @Jack_Ss Před 20 dny +11

    I don’t think Khanreiah was worth saving.

    • @thatsnotveryfresh
      @thatsnotveryfresh Před 20 dny +2

      mid opinion

    • @EthHawke94
      @EthHawke94 Před 20 dny +4

      I agree, Khaenrhi’ah is not worth Saving; their reckless actions nearly destroyed the Entirety of Teyvat, which includes Themselves!

    • @mitab1
      @mitab1 Před 20 dny +2

      ​@@EthHawke94not to mention that despite the fact that the heavenly principles left khaenri'ah alone for thousands of years, they for the same thousands of years were trying to find a way to overthrow the gods and or kill them all, they had an orphanage dedicated to finding decenders who can challenge the gods,khaenri'ah was always trying to start some bullshit, and the cataclysm was tge one t8me they "succeeded"

    • @kctoygacha5069
      @kctoygacha5069 Před 19 dny

      I think the idea of Khaenri'ah was worth saving. But what was actually Khaenri'ah was going to self-destruct eventually.

    • @EthHawke94
      @EthHawke94 Před 19 dny

      @@mitab1 And now the Descender in Question (The Main Character) sees them for who they truly are; a Selfish, Selfish-Destructive people who hated the world and want to be the only ones left. Play Stupid Games Win Stupid Prizes…

  • @maestrosyrex
    @maestrosyrex Před 20 dny +2

    No, I think his mission is to be the least interesting 5 star character until the writers realize they forgot one of the "most important characters in the lore" and comeback to re-write him in the plot again. I don't know why we never got an update on the guy. Though tbh, I'm not sure why he wasn't introduced later on during the game's life span, I would much rather buy that he was on the expedition with Varka to no man's land, than getting introduced in the plot in year one for nothing to happen for years. And with him not even being Khanriahan, you can measure his uselessness with ease come year 8.
    Honestly, I would've been fine if they retconned the plot to erase him completely, since this "most important characters in the lore" has outlived his purpose.
    Albedo, The 5 star that you forgot existed