Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Japanese Grand Prix

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  • @df8340
    @df8340 Před měsícem +367

    Can we talk about how Kmag did this on a 1 stop? A haas doing a 1 stop in Japan is something that no-one would have seen. Plus the pitstop scramble kinda boned him.

    • @CHRoOMAX
      @CHRoOMAX Před měsícem +26

      Neither Matt or Tommy understands racing it seems. Herp derp quali that herp derp race result that. They don't bother looking into the actual stuff that happened during the race.

    • @FEDERAL_AID_RACING
      @FEDERAL_AID_RACING Před měsícem +7

      They have been rushing videos lately. I’m not surprise honestly.

    • @UltrawideANCHR
      @UltrawideANCHR Před měsícem

      @@CHRoOMAX agree! see my comment too.

    • @hellthane
      @hellthane Před měsícem

      @@CHRoOMAX why are you even here?

  • @jakobbarrett3207
    @jakobbarrett3207 Před měsícem +125

    Ocon was overtaken 13 times, he didn't have 13 overtakes, that Alpine is an absolute tractor and the strategy didn't help.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem +2

      I was scratching my head at that stat too.

  • @Vonliten
    @Vonliten Před měsícem +403

    Come on Matt & Tommy, don’t be lazy. Give us the total average scores every week !

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel Před měsícem +38

      I think they could show the running stats at the end via the editor, but likely not be able to talk about them in the video as their ratings aren't really locked in by the time they shoot and sometimes change during discussion.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel Před měsícem +48

      @StevieNockman you need new parents

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem +1

      And some people want team ratings as well... they'd be drowned in numbers.

    • @michaelwilkie35
      @michaelwilkie35 Před měsícem +1

      With how up & down Lance has been this season, (I’ll call it the Strollercoaster) I’m expecting him to do well in China.
      But for the love of god he can’t be eliminated in Q1 again.

    • @vedranb87
      @vedranb87 Před měsícem +1

      And a 3 race sliding average to keep track of trends. :D

  • @juhom6019
    @juhom6019 Před měsícem +84

    "unfortunately for Bottas it was a pit stop battle"😆

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +7

      It's accurate, prior to the second pit stop he was holding off Tsunoda who couldn't catch him, mind you Tsunoda couldn't pass Sargeant either, weird how his mediocre performance is being celebrated.

  • @osmarsanchez5165
    @osmarsanchez5165 Před měsícem +43

    Yuki is getting everything out of that RB. No way could he get any higher unless another top team driver is struggling with lots of damage or straight up retires. 10/10 from me, he is getting every point possible

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +5

      If it wasn't for the teams super effort in the second pit stop, Yuki wouldn't be anywhere near tenth. He struggled to pass Sargeant and Bottas.

    • @kaly3877
      @kaly3877 Před měsícem +3

      @@dodgemF1even then it was more the other teams bottling their stops

    • @ronan1686
      @ronan1686 Před měsícem +9

      Disagree, Yuki had a bad start and then ended up starting 12th on the restart. Meanwhile Bottas went from 13th to 10th. Bottas also was in front of Yuki the whole time getting up into 10th and Yuki just got luckier in the pits. Bottas had the best race for me today, just got screwed by his team of an easy points finish

    • @tak8261
      @tak8261 Před měsícem +10

      Yes Yuki greatly benefited from the pit stop (which actually was mediocre but the other teams were really slow lol) but the team also screwed him with the tyre strategy and set up (the bad start wasn’t his fault, both drivers clearly had a bad setup) and also consequent strategy was also bad allowing undercuts. He ultimately did the best he could on the circuit including some key overtakes, really managing his tyres very well, so he did maximize the performance.
      He also qualified P10 by his own merit.
      What more could you have expected him to do? even if he had not finished in P10, he still would have deserved a strong rating.

    • @tkmnkmr
      @tkmnkmr Před měsícem +2

      @@ronan1686 Yuki had a good restart.
      12th to 9th.

  • @RockSolitude
    @RockSolitude Před měsícem +19

    Matt and Tommy Australia: Max and Lewis should get N/A ratings because they went out at the very start of the race and scoring them will effect their end season scores. Also we should not punish drivers because of factors outside their control and we need to score slow cars higher based on performance.
    Matt and Tommy in Japan: *_automatic 10/10 for Yuki, gives ratings to Ricciardo and Albon, trashes Logan Sargeant by habit, lower ratings to everyone else, forgets Charles cooked and made his own 1 stop strategy work_*

    • @hemi265mustard
      @hemi265mustard Před měsícem +3

      Well said and the exact comment i was looking for. Very hypocritical Matt and Tommy

    • @ElMoShApPiNeSs
      @ElMoShApPiNeSs Před měsícem +2

      Do Matt and Tommy suck at their job? They get a 2/10 from me unironically.

    • @erikvermolen8371
      @erikvermolen8371 Před měsícem +1

      Difference is Verstappen and Hamilton were out of the race because of car troubles not because of on track action, Sargeant is trash so what is the trouble with that? Stop being buthurt and stop makeing stuff up, stay with the facts, and you'll see that you don't to be so upset.

  • @tammy6015
    @tammy6015 Před měsícem +115

    Ferrari may have come up with the strategy but it was Charles who was pushing to do the 1 stop. 9/10 for me

    • @KiwiAlchemista
      @KiwiAlchemista Před měsícem +25

      Charles was the one who suggested the strat tho, they were gonna do a two stop before he told them he wants one stop

    • @WorldzWalker
      @WorldzWalker Před měsícem +13

      We can’t give him a 9/10 when his Qualify was 8 on a car that deserves a Top 4 at the very least, when a Driver like Checo qualify lower than 2nd he gets slander and his grade drops so much no matter how many overtakes he does or even if he finishes 2nd why would we do different with the other drivers? Even if you want to use the RB rocket argument the Ferrari is better than Mercedes and McClaren no excuses to finish lower than 4th

    • @coin5207
      @coin5207 Před měsícem +4

      ​​@@WorldzWalker It is not about the position. Charles qualified like a tenth behind Carlos. Checo qualified 7 tenths behind Max at the last Japan GP. Yes Max is definitely better than Carlos but not by this huge amount that would explain this gap
      Yeah it was pretty tough for him the car was obviously geared towards Max and not him but still. 7 and a half tenths is how much stroll was behind Alonso this qualifying and it got him a Q1 elimination

  • @olivervestergaard8767
    @olivervestergaard8767 Před měsícem +105

    Magnussen was actually chosen by Haas to drive with a different setup in FP1 to test if they could get more out of the car. That didn't work, and after a FP2 with almost no running, he only had one session to get used to the car.

    • @jdwood577
      @jdwood577 Před měsícem +23

      And he finished the race on a one stop strategy (med-Hard) pretty amateur rating...

    • @olivervestergaard8767
      @olivervestergaard8767 Před měsícem +17

      @@jdwood577 Yes, I agree. Sometimes I think they should do some more research lol. He also only had one set of hards, which he said himself in an interview basically ruined his strategy.

    • @12woogies
      @12woogies Před měsícem

      These numbnuts have been showing a bias against Magnussen for 2 seasons. Kind of amateurish.

  • @olivervestergaard8767
    @olivervestergaard8767 Před měsícem +59

    Magnussen was screwed over by the teams pit stop and lost two positions.
    With the Haas top speed I think he could have stayed ahead of Tsunoda.

    • @lucaspedersen8233
      @lucaspedersen8233 Před měsícem +3

      yeah and he only had one hard tire to use where everyone else had two so he was forced to do a one stop strategy

  • @ChristianKrillz
    @ChristianKrillz Před měsícem +68

    "While it's ferrari who made the strategy" ??? excuse me? Leclerc is the one who suggested the strat to begin with and refused the twostopper seeing his pace and deg. Nothing to do with clown Ferrari lol... Not even Leclercs biggest fan but that race was a masterclass from HIM and HIM alone lol.

    • @Persoc
      @Persoc Před měsícem

      Exactly

    • @KiwiAlchemista
      @KiwiAlchemista Před měsícem +8

      exactly, even f1 posted it on social media. I dont know why its so hard to do a little research before rating drivers

    • @sajjadhashmani4064
      @sajjadhashmani4064 Před měsícem +1

      Except the 2 stop was the better strat. He did a great job making the 1 stopper work but it was still slower than a 2 stopper

    • @ChristianKrillz
      @ChristianKrillz Před měsícem +5

      @@sajjadhashmani4064 false... It literally proved to be better for Charles since he managed so well and got clean air and no compromise in putting him out in traffic. Leclerc had better racepace than Sainz on a twostopper lol... That should tell you something

    • @Persoc
      @Persoc Před měsícem +1

      well when you cosu that some say that Sainz ran 0.4 s faster than Leclerc we know who we are dealing with

  • @imtruckyy9159
    @imtruckyy9159 Před měsícem +16

    Drinking game idea. Take a shot everytime you hear “I’ve also gone for”

  • @SeanMather
    @SeanMather Před měsícem +13

    I feel that was a bit hard on KMag. Finished 1 place behind his teammate, did a completely unnoticed 1 stopper… I’d say Haas gets 6 all arounds

  • @cormacmacaongusa
    @cormacmacaongusa Před měsícem +81

    Unfair that Bottas isn't getting an 8 or 9. How are teams with bad cars meant to get a good score if what Bottas just did was a 7. Easily an 8, possibly 9. Even worse after just hearing Yuki got a 10.

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +26

      I suggest the DTS fans here go and watch Bottas' second stint, he drove really well and was making quick progression. Held off Sargeant and Tsunoda who struggled to get passed him. Was a points finishing race until the awful pitstop. Bravo for the recognition.

    • @Panda-xx4hs
      @Panda-xx4hs Před měsícem +4

      It's always like that in these ratings, they try to discount the bad cars but can't fully i guess

    • @donaldfarquar
      @donaldfarquar Před měsícem

      Yeap, if that was Max or Vettel in the Torro Rosso when they were there, they would have been competing with the Mercs and Astons every race at least.
      Wish Lawson had gotten a chance instead of chasing that marketing money with Danny and we could have seen what that car could actually do.

    • @066kshitizvsingh4
      @066kshitizvsingh4 Před měsícem

      ​@donaldfarquar we can't say that as we don't know how good the car actually is. There is an equal chance that Yuki is absolutely extracting the max of the machine, or both the drivers are not performing to the cars limits and based on the interview its mostly the former

    • @cormacmacaongusa
      @cormacmacaongusa Před měsícem

      @@066kshitizvsingh4 me when I know absolutely nothing

  • @Anya_khaos
    @Anya_khaos Před měsícem +6

    why is no one mentioning how logan's pit crew made him lose 4 positions coz of the timing in the pits? not to defend the poor mistakes, but it seems like everyone forgets the first half of the race where he actually showed some promise for once

  • @muhammadasharimran3973
    @muhammadasharimran3973 Před měsícem +40

    Maybe after both drivers you could also add in a team rating for every race? Base it on strategies, pitstops, how the car was that weekend etc.etc.
    Could have a driver's and constructors battle then and would be fun to see something like aston getting an 8 every week but stroll getting a 6 or the other way around with RB/ last yr ferrari

    • @JnManuelAG
      @JnManuelAG Před měsícem

      We suggest that every rating video and we still get ignored 😅

  • @KiwiAlchemista
    @KiwiAlchemista Před měsícem +25

    Why is it when sainz does a strat that the team decides on its automatically sainz who came up with it, and whenever leclerc is the one who suggests the best strat for him, its ferrari who came out with it, like even f1 posted the team radio of charles calling the strat in japan, like it would take no time to research that, and yet here we are.

    • @kaly3877
      @kaly3877 Před měsícem +8

      feel like these guys aren’t really the most objective or factual opinions on the internet. still love their personalities but these oversight do get annoying

    • @KiwiAlchemista
      @KiwiAlchemista Před měsícem +8

      @@kaly3877 yeah, and its not the first time, iswear they get something wrong that would be easy to figure out with many dirvers each race weekend, i like their funny tweets segment but the rest is just so annoying, like you get to do this for a job, atleast do a little research if your going to do ratings, like how is logan lower than riccardo when he caused a big crash bcs he didnt look. and why is piastri a 7 and lando a 8, when lando 3 tenths ahead in quali and 17 secs in the race, like i dont even like lando and that is very unfair.

    • @F-F01
      @F-F01 Před měsícem +3

      @@KiwiAlchemistaaverage Charles fangirl

    • @KiwiAlchemista
      @KiwiAlchemista Před měsícem

      @@F-F01 well im a boy but i guess idiots like you have never spoken to a woman so you cant tell what gender am i, and if being a leclerc fangirl means being right i dont get how thats an insult lol.

    • @KiwiAlchemista
      @KiwiAlchemista Před měsícem +4

      @@F-F01 im a boy, and yet every charles fangirl is smarter than you so theres that

  • @emchenderson717
    @emchenderson717 Před měsícem +32

    Logan had a decent race. And like 6/7 overtakes before the pit stop battle. Yes he spun but he still finished the race. Is he Max, no but I do think he’s shown improvement and should have gotten a higher rating.

    • @SkiingIsBelieving859
      @SkiingIsBelieving859 Před měsícem +1

      wow the standard is low… crashing in practice and ending up in the gravel/finishing last is pretty darn bad

    • @tipiilegends5482
      @tipiilegends5482 Před měsícem

      Yes that is true but when you spin it and put it in the gravel out of nowhere with no pressure then that’s just unacceptable. Also crashing out in FP1 can’t be ignored. He also finished dead last. He already gained 3 positions due to retirements and because of that vital mistake he ended up in 17th which was last place. You can’t give a driver more than a 3 for making a huge mistake in both practice and the actual race and finishing last. That’s a 1/10 performance. But. Because the fact he did make some good overtakes and was running well before he spun then I would give him a 2/3.

    • @JIKwood
      @JIKwood Před měsícem +1

      @@tipiilegends5482 this was only his second race at this circuit. He is still learning every single detail. Plus he's not the only driver to go off at degner. Leclerc, Norris, AND Perez all went off there too.
      As for the race up until he went off. He was doing well for the 1 stop but Williams decided not to for some reason.

    • @laughing5752
      @laughing5752 Před měsícem +2

      @@SkiingIsBelieving859I mean even if you disagree with a higher rating I can comfortably say that Logan has atleast shown some improvement in overall pace. This doesn’t mean he doesn’t make rookie mistakes, but he has shown more speed around the track than we usually get.

  • @SaskiaHoutmanKool
    @SaskiaHoutmanKool Před měsícem +4

    Last year you posted a video halfway through the season about standings with a different points-system, from first to 15th. I was looking forward to see a follow-up after the season finished, but it never came. Could you make one of those halfway through te season and at the end of it please? Have fun next week with your live-shows! I'd love to come to one of those, but a trip to the UK is a little out of my budget

  • @OveranalyzingEverything
    @OveranalyzingEverything Před měsícem +99

    The logan 3 and 2 is ridiculous. He was running 12th when they screwed up his race in the pits.

    • @Zootopia96
      @Zootopia96 Před měsícem +22

      Just ignore the crash in FP1, the shite quail and putting in the gravel but yeah bad pit stop….

    • @OveranalyzingEverything
      @OveranalyzingEverything Před měsícem +15

      @Zootopia96 I mean that's all that kinda matters realistically is the actual race. If you can qualify last and still make up places in race with bad quali and practice. Yeah the race highly outweighs the rest of the weekend. A person crashing out in 1st lap in race shouldn't get more than a 3 or 4.

    • @Zootopia96
      @Zootopia96 Před měsícem +7

      @@OveranalyzingEverything What’s the difference between making a mistake on lap 1 and making a mistake on lap 41? The net result is you’ve ruined your race. In fact I’d say it’s more excusable to have a racing incident with someone on the 1st lap than binning it by yourself for no reason in the middle of the race.

    • @OveranalyzingEverything
      @OveranalyzingEverything Před měsícem

      @Zootopia96 is it really though? I say in sports the person who finishes only one lap vs 40 had a better result. Sure the outcome was the same.

    • @magb8632
      @magb8632 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@OveranalyzingEverything bro logan was just shit and people won't accept it, i dont get it he's arguably the worst driver on the grid, the crash in FP1 ist not excusable thats a mistake i did a few times in F1 23

  • @ChaosqueenMaddy
    @ChaosqueenMaddy Před měsícem +226

    How the hell did Logan get a lower rating than Ricciardo????? Like yeah he went of at Degner 2, fair enough but you both entirely ignored the bad stop???

    • @davyn8mccray
      @davyn8mccray Před měsícem +53

      #stoploganhate

    • @billypilgrim1
      @billypilgrim1 Před měsícem

      Because he's dogshit

    • @shattiiee
      @shattiiee Před měsícem +59

      he had a really good pace before that horrible pit stop too. Good pace and good overtakes

    • @Ziggy0120
      @Ziggy0120 Před měsícem +66

      They just dont like Logan and it shows in their ratings for him.

    • @IkLms11
      @IkLms11 Před měsícem +33

      And Albon who damaged another chassis for the second weekend in a row.

  • @wombat4191
    @wombat4191 Před měsícem +38

    Matt: Ferrari
    Tommy: FRANK
    Love the shirt.

    • @Becky_Cooling
      @Becky_Cooling Před měsícem +1

      Well to be Frank with you, *Yawns and woofs*
      It's a brilliant t-shirt

  • @FINtr0ll99
    @FINtr0ll99 Před měsícem +44

    I'm sorry but how does Valtteri get a 7 (6 from the fans?) while Yuki gets a 10 for a very similar performance, they were close all race and I'll argue that Yuki has the better car. As you said, Valtteri did very well and the team once again let him down. What more can he do with that shitbox?

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +9

      Bottas destroyed Tsunoda in the second stint that's a fact.

  • @Scavs_Inc
    @Scavs_Inc Před měsícem +65

    Why is stroll not being graded on a different category?

    • @Chip_in
      @Chip_in Před měsícem +15

      My boy Lance Slow needs to be racing in a different category 🤣⛳

    • @diamondback6653
      @diamondback6653 Před měsícem

      Nunces deserve a special league.

    • @ehrlichgesagt863
      @ehrlichgesagt863 Před měsícem +3

      ​@Chip_in what? He obviously needed to try ridiculous strategies because they are so slow on the straight and everybody was undercutting like hell. Quali was bad but the racepace was solid

    • @diamondback6653
      @diamondback6653 Před měsícem +5

      @@ehrlichgesagt863 bulls excrament. Where did Alonso finish?

    • @AndrewGeierMelons
      @AndrewGeierMelons Před měsícem

      ​@@ehrlichgesagt863 - I think they ran a rain setup in the dry because of parc fermé regulations.

  • @shrijansshetty9555
    @shrijansshetty9555 Před měsícem +5

    I hope you guys know that the stake F1 pitstops aren't slow because of the crew, it is the nut design that causes this delay 😢

    • @flatspots101
      @flatspots101 Před měsícem

      I've made the same comment on multiple videos yet the guys seem unaware of it. It's been talked about on other Pods and written about online.
      Felt Matt very harsh last week calling them clowns

  • @TheAlexDekker
    @TheAlexDekker Před měsícem +34

    I do normally defend Zhou and try to back the Sauber drivers a bit, but it was just a poor weekend all round this time for Zhou, I agree with 3/10, and 7/10 for Bottas - if he had managed to get past Magnussen in their battle I could argue an 8 (the team and car are awful), but having not done that 7 makes perfect sense!

    • @konlin4525
      @konlin4525 Před měsícem +4

      i can understand that people dont really pay much attention into the backmarker teams like Sauber, but it has been incredibly unlucky for Zhou for the last two races. Front wing disintegrated itself for no reason at Australia, still using the old front wing for Japan due to no backups. Car broke down in FP3 and had to be dismantled, fuel tank leaking, no time nor data for tuning, no sim run for qualy, gearbox issues never solved. Just absolutely stink for Sauber to keep messing up, even in practice session.

    • @Viktoronto
      @Viktoronto Před měsícem

      @@konlin4525the stars need to align for Zhou next week❤

  • @dreadlaxdave86
    @dreadlaxdave86 Před měsícem +51

    i think it is a little unfair to rate drivers who go out on lap 1. When in your last rating you said max get either a 10 or N/A when we retired after lap 2.

    • @TheTentacola
      @TheTentacola Před měsícem +6

      First of it is all just banter, don't take it too serious
      There is a difference between a mechanical dnf and a crash
      Unless Bottas goes bowling again the driver often has some part in the crash
      Albon could have been more careful, knowing Wiliams is already struggling with parts. Even if it was not his fault.

    • @timovos5371
      @timovos5371 Před měsícem +4

      Albon and Riciardo crashed into the wall and were both responsible. Max his brakes were locking which is something out of his control. Two completely different things

  • @fzriow
    @fzriow Před měsícem +6

    It's 4 mins in and Matt has already said the word cheffing. Going to become a drinking game soon.

  • @PhlogPhanatic
    @PhlogPhanatic Před měsícem +4

    I really respect the analysis you guys give, but I think its a bit hard on Sainz, Bottas, Perez, and Ricciardo this time round.
    I think the Sainz one is really obvious, he could easily be given a 10 for that drive. I don't think that Ferrari would have achieved better than 3rd unless the RB's had issues.
    Perez finishing second to Max is the best he is ever going to do. His race was clean and he did really well in Quali and the FP's. Making a criteria that he must beat Max to get a 10 is insane, that RB is tuned in to Max and Max can drive the wheels off it.
    DR might have moved to make space for Stroll and I don't dispute that caused the prang but the FIA Stewards declared it a lap one incident and recorded no penalty. So in my mind lap one incidents shouldn't be penalised in the rankings either. It would have been better to give him and Albon no score and exclude this race for them both.
    Bottas is driving that Stake the best anyone could I think and he keeps getting screwed by these pit stops or mechanical issues. The car is clearly horrible and it sort of feels like the ranking punishes the driver for a bad car or a team mistake. There should be a way for a driver in a horrible car to get an 8 or a 9.

  • @RogueEagle
    @RogueEagle Před měsícem +108

    Logan deserved better than Ricc come on guys

    • @oscoxx
      @oscoxx Před měsícem +6

      💯

    • @JIKwood
      @JIKwood Před měsícem +16

      They just hate logan, idk why but they always blame him despite him doing very well this weekend. Williams ruined his race but they never acknowledge it. Honestly tired of how much they hate on him

    • @yy-cf7wb
      @yy-cf7wb Před měsícem

      Let's not forget he locked up at the end of the race

    • @norbertjanssen814
      @norbertjanssen814 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@JIKwoodLogan isn't good enough for F1. Almost never has a problem free weekend. Has never beaten Albon in qualifying. He's slow and mentally weak.

    • @JIKwood
      @JIKwood Před měsícem +2

      @@norbertjanssen814 he had problem free weekends last year and this year. How about you stop spreading lies.

  • @andrewlight32
    @andrewlight32 Před měsícem +8

    I feel like their ratings have been getting more and more inconsistent. Hulk should have gotten better than Mag but giving him a 5 on a one stop and he gained 5 positions in the race come on that's at least a 6 or 7 to anyone who cares about the ratings. Also giving a 3 and 2 to Sargent is ridiculous. He didn't have a complete race by any means but he gained a bunch of positions and lost them in the pit scramble, now he did bin it into Degna 2 but those scores are terrible....especially when giving Ric and Albon the scores they did.

  • @MrMasrosh
    @MrMasrosh Před měsícem

    Tommy and Matt on fire... Great episode...

  • @andrewcox6042
    @andrewcox6042 Před měsícem +32

    These ratings feel either super harsh (Logan) or very forgiving

    • @54_ocram46
      @54_ocram46 Před měsícem +10

      To give Oscar a 7 and Norris an 8 is not fair. It should be a 6 and a 9.

    • @Rindiculousfun
      @Rindiculousfun Před měsícem +1

      @@54_ocram46I’d say 5 and 8. I did not like piastri race

    • @F-F01
      @F-F01 Před měsícem +1

      @@54_ocram466 and 8 seems more fair

    • @Wolfywolf7
      @Wolfywolf7 Před měsícem

      @@54_ocram46 I think 7 and 8 works.
      Oscar was slower, but he had more on-track battles than Lando, so a rating just under Lando's seems about right.

  • @rackddom8852
    @rackddom8852 Před měsícem +3

    Here we go

  • @flatspots101
    @flatspots101 Před měsícem +4

    So people know, as Matt & Tommy never mention it
    STAKE have all new pit equipment this season. They have known since race 1 it has a problem
    They need time to fix.
    They have partly fixed this issue, but not fully
    They are slowing down the pit stop on purpose to try avoid the threading nut issue.

  • @MissMarquise
    @MissMarquise Před měsícem +4

    I always think of corn chips when Williams Dorilton is mentioned - Dorilton = Doritos

  • @hieuluu2
    @hieuluu2 Před měsícem +22

    Red Bull put Gasly, Nick DeVries, Liam, and Riccardo into the Alpha Tauri (RB) with the sole intention of moving up to Red Bull for Chico's seat, yet Yuki has beaten Gasly, DeVries, Liam, and Riccardo (twice), and even with Riccardo disaster in Suzuka, and the season so far, Christian Horner is still high on Riccardo and not so much on Yuki. Horner "Riccardo 7/10, Yuki 5/5".

    • @karimmaasri1723
      @karimmaasri1723 Před měsícem +9

      He didn't beat Liam

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +2

      Looking at Yuki's fortunate results in Melbourne wasn't due to pace or performance, Yuki struggled in Japan to pass Sargeant and Bottas prior to the second pit stop.
      Whilst on paper Tsunoda is having an amazing season, facts are it's nothing special. Eg being celebrated for passing Gasly around the outside, where the truth is Gasly had damage and was slowing. The hype for Yuki is insane.

    • @FiveNtwoW
      @FiveNtwoW Před měsícem +7

      ​@@dodgemF1why are your recent comments all about yuki, even in 2023

    • @AllGuitarSucks
      @AllGuitarSucks Před měsícem

      @@FiveNtwoW Because he/her/that is a die hard DR fan

    • @JnManuelAG
      @JnManuelAG Před měsícem +3

      While I agree with your statement he did not beat Liam.

  • @graffbussiere4831
    @graffbussiere4831 Před měsícem +4

    Ik logan was bad but giving him the same or worse rating than Ricardo who crashed and dnfed is a lil crazy

  • @LarryFisherman742
    @LarryFisherman742 Před měsícem +57

    Yuki is the max verstappen of formula B

    • @Snazzy16
      @Snazzy16 Před měsícem +20

      Nick Hulkenburg is the Charles leclerc of formula B as well (absolute qualifying beast)

    • @LarryFisherman742
      @LarryFisherman742 Před měsícem +22

      @@Snazzy16 lance stroll is the Logan Sargent of formula 1

    • @Snazzy16
      @Snazzy16 Před měsícem +1

      @@LarryFisherman742 100%

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +2

      What garbage. Keep hyping him up though, will make his failure even more epic.

    • @LarryFisherman742
      @LarryFisherman742 Před měsícem +2

      @@dodgemF1 it aint that serious bruh relax yourself

  • @HoopleHeadUSA
    @HoopleHeadUSA Před měsícem +3

    I love all the Lance shade, well deserved

  • @Versatilty
    @Versatilty Před měsícem +39

    Daniel causes crash on the third corner Tommy 3 Matt 3, Sargent doesn't have a good race but finished the race Tommy 2 ??? I think if Danny gunned the engine and intentionally run into every car in front of him he'd still get nothing lower than a 3... Can we FINALLY get past the fact that everyone loves Danny and finally grade him on what he does not how much we love him? I like Danny too but he hasn't driven well in three years. Let's be fair not fan-ish

    • @Ramrunner73
      @Ramrunner73 Před měsícem +5

      He qualified 11th and missed out on 10th by like 0.055 or something. Did that only having 2 practice sessions, one of those was wet. Now, I have only ever done professional karting in my life but even in those the starts are super hectic with karts weaving all over the track and we don't have rear view mirrors. I can safely say on a left turn with an Aston in my left mirror and the short burst from turn 1 to 2 I can forgive someone for not expecting anyone to try and pull alongside around the outside and giving myself the best chance of a good turn 2 exit. Albon was NEVER going to pull alongside evenly so sitting on the outside with only his front wheels up to less than half way of DR's car was a case of "outside suicide" in this case. There's a reason no-one got a penalty. As clear a case of racing incident as I've seen one. DR should not get points off for that. His qualifying was good and better than I've ever seen Logan produce. And Logan did spin all by himself.

  • @nayyarharsh
    @nayyarharsh Před měsícem +2

    As looking at Stake, Haas and other teams progress.. should we also start rating teams as well along with drivers? As this will help
    Us decouple team issues like Stake from drivers and that will bring better respect to Drivers and their performance.

  • @Umar-gw6fy
    @Umar-gw6fy Před měsícem +1

    I think you should start ranking teams aswell with their team orders,strategies, pit stops ect

  • @JasperHayward
    @JasperHayward Před měsícem

    Would love to see a ranking from worst performing to best (where you have to agree on one list) -- or just arguing over a tier list ranking/order -- maybe done every 3 races or something

  • @JakeVirdenTech
    @JakeVirdenTech Před měsícem +1

    I'm glad I am not the only one that has the same feeling as Tommy about the Riccardo/Albon incident. I agree Daniel left him less than no room, but how is Alex going to try and run along side going three wide into turn two. There was absolutely nothing to gain there, and probably could have backed out and overtaken Daniel at some point in the rest of lap 1 as Daniel was struggling for grip.

  • @1draigon
    @1draigon Před měsícem +1

    I think the albon critique from tommy isn’t fair. That would mean he’s never allowed to overtake or battle, because the other driver can always make insane mistakes like just not looking in the mirror of the side you’re turning

  • @joshualamp2438
    @joshualamp2438 Před měsícem

    I just saw you on Alex’s podcast, that wasn’t a crossover I could have predicted.

  • @DontForgetOldKolobok
    @DontForgetOldKolobok Před měsícem +71

    *THE RICCCCCC* can't finish, and takes out Albon......3
    Logan finishes the race 3, 2
    🤣🤣

    • @huh4206
      @huh4206 Před měsícem +14

      the ric qualified p11 just 0.05s out of q3

    • @TrippaMazing87
      @TrippaMazing87 Před měsícem +13

      @@huh4206qualy doesn’t matter if you take yourself out on the second corner 💀

    • @huh4206
      @huh4206 Před měsícem +6

      @TrippaMazing87 doesn't matter for the race, but if you're looking at a drivers development over their quali pace or race pace, this is still very important. so yeah quali does matter

    • @liammylchreest3506
      @liammylchreest3506 Před měsícem +1

      @@huh4206what are you talking about race pace he didn’t race 😂 and every other race he’s miles off it

    • @huh4206
      @huh4206 Před měsícem +1

      @@liammylchreest3506 "quali pace OR race pace" can you read ?

  • @rushabhsheth2850
    @rushabhsheth2850 Před měsícem +4

    You guys should calculate the scores from the last 20 races. Most likely, if you give Max 0 from this point onwards, he’ll still be on top for another 10-12 races.
    Also Ricciardo & Albon getting higher points than Logan - a hint of some bias maybe?

  • @samrosen9823
    @samrosen9823 Před měsícem +1

    Honestly I'm a big Yuki fan, but people keep acting like his opening lap didn't happen. Before the restart, he got off to an AWFUL start getting overtaken all the way down to P18 (before the crash). His teammate went wide because Yuki was in his left mirror. The restart saved his race, and that just isn't talked about whatsoever. After the restart, he was great. But not sure why we ignore the opening lap

  • @hugocragoe549
    @hugocragoe549 Před měsícem +1

    You should add a team rating too; how did the team do on strategy etc. like so they see this

    • @climberkitty6683
      @climberkitty6683 Před měsícem

      Yeah that might be hard though to figure out what would br the optimal strategy

  • @krzysiu_misiu
    @krzysiu_misiu Před měsícem +1

    Conspiracy theory: Stake’s slow pits are a protest against the shady title sponsor

  • @migrantworker10690
    @migrantworker10690 Před měsícem +2

    You guys should do P1 and Donkey of the day

  • @weedfreer
    @weedfreer Před měsícem

    Is there not a sports bar that could host you guys at 3AM as you do you Twitch stream for the late ones?
    Im sure there are some larger inner city ones which do this sorta stuff...late license kinda thing.

  • @ScuderiaFans
    @ScuderiaFans Před měsícem +1

    That tyre management during the race was superb. Good job Carlos and Charles! The team did everything they could in Japan, with what they had to work with, so proud of them! 👏 ❤🇮🇹 Forza C² ❤❤💪🏽💪🏽 💚🤍❤ Forza Ferrari! 💚🤍❤

  • @openbabel
    @openbabel Před měsícem +1

    Its a bit early to find out how the season will progress.. But so far Ferrari has made some consistent tactical calls from the team, The fans put this down to the first time use from the team tacticians and analyst software at Marcello of Ai.
    At least the use of Ai will do one of two things..make their fractional calls consistently bad or consistently good ?

    • @Persoc
      @Persoc Před měsícem

      for information leclerc's strategy comes from leclerc the wall did not agree

  • @TheCreepyReaderNarrator
    @TheCreepyReaderNarrator Před měsícem +2

    Not a very good drive from stroll sure but not quite fair critique. He put on the softs at lap 32 or something and then did 18 laps on them which was longer than a lot of other drivers stints on mediums. He was catching Yuki for the first 15 or something laps and then they dropped off like a cliff the last laps. The call to put softs on was to me a gamble for Aston to somehow get passed tsunonda since they lacked straight line speed due to the setup made. He could easily have stayed on the hards which they put on at the same time as Yuki and secure p11. He was the only driver to do a 3 stopper and was essentially stuck behind yuki for the majority of the race. Had he had clean air or gotten passed yuki through strategy he would most likely gotten p10. To me the most mistakes were made before the race in qualifying and in the setup. For me it's more like a 4 or 5 in rating but not sure if he could have done much more differently on race day.

    • @LouisSubearth
      @LouisSubearth Před měsícem

      His race craft was good, it was the pit calls that screwed him up.

  • @ridhima2791
    @ridhima2791 Před měsícem

    18:42 Smoooothhh operatoorrrrr

  • @JonathanHarvell
    @JonathanHarvell Před měsícem +6

    Has anyone calculated the average pit stop time for each team thus far? Would be hilarious to see how out of whack Stake is.

    • @ChickenKhorma
      @ChickenKhorma Před měsícem +6

      Idk the average, but they have spent more time in pits in the first 3 races than any other team did in total last season.

  • @dazfisk
    @dazfisk Před měsícem +1

    Stroll should get a 10/10 for that drivers radio

  • @wilmerm5367
    @wilmerm5367 Před měsícem +10

    Hamilton had damage on front wing, feels you did not take this into account at all, this is why he offered to swap positions.

    • @henkormel5610
      @henkormel5610 Před měsícem

      He hadn't. The car just understered like mad on the hard tires at high fuel just like Russells car did.

  • @hamza-chaudhry
    @hamza-chaudhry Před měsícem

    2024 & Ver: 13:03 13:30 13:59 14:22
    2024: 14:58 15:28
    DRS: 15:16
    Sta (not included): 15:40
    Ver: 21:23 21:55

  • @S0kki
    @S0kki Před měsícem +1

    Bottas with an even remotely okay strategy and pitstops is 9th or 10th in that race. It's insane how bad Sauber is at pitstops, just casually lost 2 seconds extra on everyone TWICE and just got stuck on his last stint.

  • @fanussj
    @fanussj Před měsícem +4

    Fernando, Sainz and Yuki best drives I would say

    • @Persoc
      @Persoc Před měsícem

      Le meilleur pilotage revient à Leclerc sur cette course désolée

  • @SDRaygon
    @SDRaygon Před měsícem +2

    how do you rate Zhou and Logan the same when one of them literly drove off track and the other didnt?

  • @lejosukebby4107
    @lejosukebby4107 Před měsícem +1

    I hope Yuki continues to drive well. His last 10 races show consistency in bringing out the best in a weak car.

  • @zsfekete5211
    @zsfekete5211 Před měsícem +1

    I think the grading for Sargeant is extremely harsh. He was literally with Bottas. He was right there with Bottas as the 5 car pit battle came and he came out behind Bottas. If you mention how much Bottas got screewed over by Kick pitstop, you have to mention how Sargeant got screwed over in exactly the same way. Otherwise you are either biased or ignorant.
    Don't get me wrong, I don't think he has done enough to get a 3rd season, but if you want to pretend to be anything close to journalists, or that your reviews are meant to be taken seriously, you have to apply common sense and put away your bias.

  • @_mevt.33
    @_mevt.33 Před měsícem

    now with checo on form. red bull have 2 seconds of broadcast at the start and 5 seconds when the cross the finish line

  • @michaelsullivan3581
    @michaelsullivan3581 Před měsícem +2

    At least Logan was catching people and dispatching them with authority! Actual Entertainment Value 6 points!

  • @kylehopf7147
    @kylehopf7147 Před měsícem

    editor i can see you cut a lot of Tommy in the beginning 🤣

  • @raiwood77
    @raiwood77 Před měsícem

    Guys can you do a table graphic of the points at the end of each video?

  • @Indietuff
    @Indietuff Před měsícem +2

    I’m a Yuki fan as well! 😂 he is such a consistent driver. I wonder what would happen if they put him a faster car. 😮

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +2

      He put himself into a faster car in Mexico last year when the anger issues got the better of him, how quickly we forget.

    • @Indietuff
      @Indietuff Před měsícem

      @@dodgemF1 oh yeah I forgot about that. I feel like he has calmed down since then. 🤷‍♂️

    • @rabicake1019
      @rabicake1019 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@dodgemF1Are you serious? Last year Alpha Tauri is a fast car? How fast? Dreaming

  • @Osiskskdn
    @Osiskskdn Před měsícem +3

    Idk about 2 for logie bear tbh

  • @iamanda211
    @iamanda211 Před měsícem

    mad digging the Frank shirt. hope to see it more.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před měsícem

    Laughing so hard at the deadpan of Matt going "[Tsunoda] still beat [an Aston Martin], Stroll and Fernando. Comparable." and Tommy just going "... yes, definitely."

  • @halflanding1900
    @halflanding1900 Před měsícem +1

    Matt, thanks for highlighting that Yuki defended against Lance.
    And Tommy a _Yuki-hater!!_ 😂😂😂
    Can you guys pls have Yuki as your guest some time?
    You guys interviewed him in his debut year it’s be cool to see him again.

  • @areely_garcia
    @areely_garcia Před měsícem

    I was waaaaiting

  • @ArjunSingh-gs3lj
    @ArjunSingh-gs3lj Před měsícem +1

    Would love to see you guys Interviewing Lance Stroll. Please Interview him @Matt and @tommy

  • @jordandahl1032
    @jordandahl1032 Před měsícem +3

    Yall did logan dirty

  • @Sykretts
    @Sykretts Před měsícem +1

    Actual F1 experts, Team Principals and the drivers themselves : Wasn't Daniel's fault.
    MattP1Tommy : Was Daniel's fault.
    Ok then, why have any objectivity, I guess.

  • @pasmas3217
    @pasmas3217 Před měsícem

    I know that Verstappen is still being verstappen and is holding first place if he is in the race. and also perez is actually doing pretty well again.
    But this season feels like it is the season of Sainz and Yuki from the start till now.

  • @geo.m1639
    @geo.m1639 Před měsícem

    Where can you do fan vote?

  • @cyberfutur5000
    @cyberfutur5000 Před měsícem

    How late Logans name comes in those videos this year, really says a lot about Albons performance in 23.

  • @dw1784
    @dw1784 Před měsícem

    Does anyone know why Lance pitted again? He pitted when he was right behind Tsunoda, so I thought he would eventually get past him for the final point. The next thing I knew, he was in the pits with softs going for a pretty long run on them, too. I didn't really understand that.

    • @t-mar9275
      @t-mar9275 Před měsícem

      Stroll had been within DRS range of Tsunoda for about 10 or laps but was unable to pass, so the team gambled on a pit stop for soft tyres, in the hopes that he could catch and pass Tsunoda.

  • @christinemalaspino1118
    @christinemalaspino1118 Před měsícem +1

    Logan had a good race. Pit stop was terrible at a critical moment, and he had been driving the quickly-repaired chassis from Melbourne. Definitely not a 2 or 3.

  • @purokujunior4720
    @purokujunior4720 Před měsícem +33

    2 for Logan? What? He did a good race (not bad quali) with the car which is not 100%. Yes, he did a mistake, but 2 is waay too harsh. The 4 was legit.

    • @ChaosqueenMaddy
      @ChaosqueenMaddy Před měsícem +3

      I wouldve said a 5 personally, 6 if not for Denger 2. Feels like its just a bit to call Logan bad at this point

    • @andreamissmayhem1399
      @andreamissmayhem1399 Před měsícem

      Coming dead last behind collision-damaged pink tractors is "good" is it?!

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem +1

      Crashed in practice, went to the gravel in the race, finished last. Not unreasonable.

    • @OveranalyzingEverything
      @OveranalyzingEverything Před měsícem

      ​@soundscape26 he did not finish last and the only reason he finished 17th was because of the bad pitstop. He was actually overtaking cars before that stop.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před měsícem +1

      @@OveranalyzingEverything How come he didn't finish last? Only 17 cars finished the race.

  • @TheRealSonicBeats
    @TheRealSonicBeats Před měsícem

    As much as I love Alex Albon, the more I watch his onboard the more it looks like a move againt AI in an F1 game opening lap

  • @JnManuelAG
    @JnManuelAG Před měsícem

    Wish I could see Bottas in that Merc and compare how great is Russell or how bad is Hamilton rn with that car. Having a third benchmark to compare both would be awesome

  • @HousseinMsh
    @HousseinMsh Před měsícem +1

    "I've never seen a team struggle so much in their pot stop, and that come from a Ferrari fan."Matt, is that supposed to be a slunder to Ferrari to prove your point

  • @JMRope
    @JMRope Před měsícem +14

    Why is everyone raving on about Tsunoda? In qualifying he is superb, no doubt there, and he certainly got a great result in Melbourne but the point in Suzuka was thanks to the great work of his pit crew to win back the three positions he lost on track. If you look at fastest race laps, in Bahrain he only beat Bottas and Ocon, In Jeddah, he was basically slowest, Melbourne was pretty good and Suzuka was just ok. Logan Sargeant has actually had a better fastest lap than Yuki in each of the three races they have both started. If you look at qualifying to race result in Bahrain he lost places to Stroll, Zhou and K Mag (I won't count Ricciardo) and only gained over Hulk. In Jeddah he outqualified but finished behind Bearman, Hulk, Albon, K Mag, Ocon and Sargeant. Melbourne he was only overtaken by Stroll in the race but in Suzuka he was only saved from being passed by K Mag, Bottas and Sargeant by the great pit stop. So overall, in three out of four races so far he has actually gone backwards when racing out on track, where it matters most. But even in qualifying, if we accept that the RB is the 6th fastest car he is basically where he is expected to be. He outqualified Hamilton and Alonso in Melbourne but other than that has only beaten Stroll - Bearman doesn't really count in those circumstances. I think this is more a case of Daniel Ricciardo underperforming.

    • @dodgemF1
      @dodgemF1 Před měsícem +3

      You've nailed it, been saying it's all hype for Yuki and it's unwarranted. I watched him battle Bottas and Sargeant on Sunday and he struggled whilst Bottas was flying. Melbourne result required 4 drivers ahead to either DNF or get a penalty. Similar to 2023. Hardly a result whichTsunoda had any influence.

    • @JC-lu4se
      @JC-lu4se Před měsícem +4

      It's social media and those who comment about F1 are largely kids who use their emotions rather then their brains. Yuki is flavour of the month; last season it was Piastri. Yuki is a solid midfield driver but he's way off the top guys and RedBull think this as well otherwise they would’ve gotten rid of Perez and put him in the number 1 team.

    • @JMRope
      @JMRope Před měsícem +3

      @@JC-lu4se Not just kids unfortunately. Proper media is raving about him too. The only thing they are reporting correctly is that Yuki's performances so far this year are killing any hope Ricciardo might have had to get back in the Red Bull.

    • @JC-lu4se
      @JC-lu4se Před měsícem

      @@JMRope Well I think it's fair to say that unless Danny ups his game, there's the strong possibility that Lawson will get the seat. It's going to be interesting to see if Yuki can keep this level for the season. If he's not in a Red Bull or strong team within the next year or so, he's going to be another "born for the midfield" driver which is what I think he is. He only got 3rd in his final F2 season and largely got the seat due to the Honda/Japan conection.

    • @JMRope
      @JMRope Před měsícem

      @@JC-lu4se I agree. If Daniel can't pick himself up not only has he lost the chance to go back to Red Bull he will be out of F1 completely. He would have to be a complete disaster (and some would say he is already) to be dropped mid-season though. And yeah Yuki was not super impressive in F2 but to be fair nor was Lawson. He was also third but a very long way off Drugovich where as Yuki was closer to Schumacher. And Lawson didn't win a single feature race in F2, only sprints. That said I still think Lawson would do better in F1.

  • @phillydelphia8760
    @phillydelphia8760 Před měsícem

    Kmag was on a one stop and that plays heavily into his race pace, which didn't get mentioned.
    Can't help but think he did better than a 5.
    Hulkenberg with a 7 though, ehhh nah. I agree with the fan rating of 6.

  • @IkomaKoma
    @IkomaKoma Před měsícem

    You joke about Yuki winning Formula B, but were the 5 slower teams racing separately on the same scoring scheme as the whole field, Haas would be now leading the constructors championship ahead of VCARB with a larger margin than Red Bull ahead of Ferrari, and Yuki would still be leading the drivers championship.

  • @AndreSomers
    @AndreSomers Před měsícem

    Why didn’t Alvin get an NA, or was that even mentioned as an option? He got eliminated before lap 1 even ended.

  • @flatspots101
    @flatspots101 Před měsícem +2

    Another rating and again Matt and Tommy fail to explain why STAKE are having the pit issue.
    Guys please give some context !!!!!

  • @Probiej
    @Probiej Před měsícem

    The sprint does not start at three in the morning, training does tho

  • @UnholyCamouflage
    @UnholyCamouflage Před měsícem

    V-Carb sounds like some weird video game currency

  • @aldobertorelli4906
    @aldobertorelli4906 Před měsícem

    Nice video but 2 things to add:
    - Ricciardo wasn‘t alone st fault. Albon was in his blind spot and in the first lap you can‘t manage to Watch after all cars. Albon should have backed up.
    - Charles was only 1 tenth behind Carlos in qualifying. And in the racer, he wanted the one stop strategy. Xavi told him to go with the 2 stop because the hards weren’t working on mercedes. Charles insisted and went for it.
    So in my opinion Ricciardo gets a 4 and Charles an 8,5 or a 9.

  • @nawtty8864
    @nawtty8864 Před měsícem +1

    Max took the fastest lap on the last lap of the race…… what a monster

  • @thesunnynationg
    @thesunnynationg Před měsícem +1

    10:30
    What's wrong with Alex eyes 😮😮😮
    very unfortunate picture matt 😂😂😂

    • @95mushroom
      @95mushroom Před měsícem

      One eye on you, one eye on crime

  • @HeLLenaMine
    @HeLLenaMine Před měsícem +1

    At this point Alpine is just running for the DTS plot

  • @andydunbar3205
    @andydunbar3205 Před měsícem +1

    I don't understand the points system in F1, 20 cars but only the top 10 get points, so a team can finish 11th in every GP and at the end of the season be level on points with a team that finishes 20th in every GP, why don't the points go right down to 20th so at least a backmarker team as somthing to show for it's efforts.

    • @clouds_93
      @clouds_93 Před měsícem

      20 cars but 10 teams. Taking into account things like DNFs and teams that are at the back competing for that 10th place i think it makes more sense. I’m pretty new to F1 but I think this does make more sense. It makes the points oriented toward the teams and not the individual drivers i think?