WHOOP Explained | Quantifying Recovery
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2019
- Wearable technology is quietly revolutionising physical performance, and one company at the forefront of it is WHOOP. They invited us to their HQ in Boston to see what it’s all about - so here's the in depth first look accompanying our video on Global Cycling Network.
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I am wearing one of these now and have been wearing it almost continuously for almost 6 weeks. I won't go over the positive aspects of the device since the company does a great job of tooting their own horn. #1 it's expensive. #2 it does work as a heart rate sensor but for workouts, it is not as accurate as my chest sensor so I have started wearing both during workouts. #3 the device's strongest point is the sleep analysis but after about a month I have learned that Whoop always tells me I need more sleep even when I think I have slept very well - it never tells me I have slept enough. #4 it does tell me when I am recovered but it's very hard to tailor my workouts to coincide better with the Whoop suggestions. #5 it almost always tells me I have trained well both on my hard days and my recovery days so I am not getting useful feedback. #6 it a time-intensive process it requires a lot of user adjustments, for example, it often miscalculates when I get up in the morning so I need to manually enter the time in the morning and it never automatically enters naps. In summary, glad I on the shortest 6-month plan since I doubt very much that I will continue past then and may end up aborting even earlier despite still having to pay for it.
This comment has been the most helpful thing I have read or watched about this device so far
Dope! Thanks for the feedback Ken. With that being said which has been the best that you've come across?
Thank you! I was just about to sign up and your comment saved me from another unnecessary tracker :-) You should put that in a video
Ken Sato, same. As soon as my six months is up May 14th, I will be done with Whoop.
MY thoughts exactly. so many manually entries.. after 6 months I'm done. Ill stick with my polar from here on out.
this whole video is just a very long-winded way of si trying to convince us that he actually shared the bed with someone 6:50
🤣
there is sympathy, some attraction, some admiration but I bet, they didn't at the time of the vid was made. However, a love story to start?
LOLOL!
If you’re referring to the 12 disturbances he had during the night, perhaps a few of them were from his wife. My wife wakes me up all the time but not necessarily for the reasons you might expect! 😂
Honestly, I just bought the whoop because I was looking for something better than the Apple Watch. All these athletes promoting it, I was excited to try it. Day 1, ok - just getting started. Day 2-3 - not bad but started to lag data updates by 1-2 hours. Day 4 - stopped tracking at 4 am and didn’t catch up data fully until noon. Thank go because I was at the gym. It tracked my workout and somehow 2-3 hours later, it was missing. I’ve contacted support and hopefully they have an answer because the FAQ online suck. Stay tuned.
I was ready to get this product towards the end of the video, then he mentioned the subscription model. :/
Oof, same here
Aye, was ready to buy, but not taking on another sub. Nope.
it was $500 before the subscription model.
stupid money
@@emmerrzett take on your whoop lifetime. Is it worth it
Wow! Lots of negativity around this spot. I can say as a non pro weekend warrior it has helped me a lot. I wear and use Garmin and Training peaks along side and for me there is no contest in accuracy. Following plans had lead me to an overtraining state and with whoop I now have the data to avoid that issue. I'm getting better performance on less but smarter training. Happy to answer questions or discuss further if there is interest!
@daAnder71 Hi thanks for the reply. I'm no longer racing and didn't have it when I was. For me it's about maximizing my capabilities with what I have to work with. Some are young and gifted and I am neither 😂 but it definitely works for my life where I have limited training time and have a tendency to get in an overtrained status. Good luck to you 👍
@Cthulhu good question. I would say two things. Number one there is not indicator on the device which provides feedback so placebo doesn't seem realistic. Also it's hard to hold up a placebo effect for over a year in my case. What I would say is that if you can't modify your life then nothing is going to change.and it really doesn't matter if you have it sonI would save the money.
@@jasonochoada3083 I've myself the problem to get overtrained without recognizing it. Would you still recommend the device to avoid overtraining? Thanks in advance!
@@caffeblu I do but I have to admit that it is a work in progress on my end. I still have times where I don't follow the recommendation. For me it means ending some workouts early (I use Trainnerroad) because the prescribed training is higher than my recovery. This is hard to do. Or to try and replace a workout with something else. I think all of these devices are useless if one isn't committed to trying to change behaviors. Otherwise it jus becomes another number/graph to look at.
Like the idea but enough with subscriptions. What's next, Garmin charging a subscription after paying $600 for a watch? I want to own it not rent it.
But you're paying for the Software here not the watch itself... The same way you'd pay for something like Strava.
@@bucketheadacdc has the device any value without the software?
Hyman O'Cohann very interested to learn about this!
Wish I watched your review first. Would’ve saved a lot of time. Thank you for something so simple and concise.
$30 a month that’s more than Zwift and that’s how you know that’s rich
Most people don't realize how much burnout they actually have because they are constantly in a stressed state from lack of quality (not quantity) sleep, enough healthy food (not over/under eating), not over-training day after day, etc. Think about when you were a kid. You slept like a rock. You played like a gangster. You at when your mom fed you at dinner. You didn't eat snacks and sit on your buttox all day. You weren't over-stimulated by screens and sounds (yes, you remember talking into the floor fan don't you). Over-stimulation is one of the biggest factors that mess up our ability to train to maximum effectiveness. If devices are telling you to get more sleep, they mean (quality of sleep). If the devices tell you to rest, they don't mean lay down, they mean de-stress your body AND mind.
Think I'll stay with my Garmin watch. Does pretty much all of this and tells the time / tracks activities!
Awesome content as always!
I just listen to my body and do what it tells me to do which is cycling everyday 😉
Mine says eat cake
Which may be unproductive if you’re not resting enough for your body to adapt to the stress of the training. So you end up doing more work with lower fitness gains
I learned about this product through a Facebook group and was considering purchasing. This has been helpful to explain what it actually is.
I likened the subscription to buying a tracker as you pay for the subscription outright but I agree with others that I’d probably give up the device after the subscription ended and then starting my subscription when I was training for something big. ( would they send you a new band then depending on subscription length- it would be handy to have the lastest version but kind of wasteful too because your original device would have lots of life in it.)
The data junkie in me wants it but there’s other things I actually need that I should buy first...
I’m curious to see what whoop does in the future as it might be great technology for those with sleep disorders like sleep apnea or other Health issues.
Nice one Elizabeth, glad this has been handy!
Thought I would share my experience after 7 months - I bought the Whoop for my son and after 7 months of use I will not renew the product. Nothing bad really, but the more you know and use it, the less it becomes interesting. The data model and information are hard to pin down on key elements and Whoop do their own "interpretation" of results. With my science background and training for decades, this was hard to get, and the price hard to justify. Even after a few email exchanges with the team, they just never seemed able to explain the best way to get "better results.” Also, I was curious to see the results compared to my apple watch using very basic and cheap apps and I can't justify the cost and performance when you can get an Apple Watch at a similar price with much more capability in the end. I have nothing against Whoop, but ultimately the cost doesn’t really justify the performance (the data is there but very hard to pin down). On a final note, getting information from the team was most usually hard and long and customer service in general was just “meh” - so nothing special here.
Whoop, there it is!
I evaluated various products myself which have the same goal as WHOOP, namely give you guidance of next training based on HRV and bought vital-monitor, no subscription just one time. The big difference of all those tools is accuracy of the signal. WHOOP get a crappy signal out this optical oversampling and interprets it with their genius engineers into something useful. vital-monitor gets a very clear signal because the oversampling is different and therefore can invest all their resources into the results. The guidance for the next training is clear and accurate of vital-monitor. I want to spend my time (my money too) mainly on training not on dealing with some tools, simplicity is another reason why I went for that one.
There is one more thing to that, WHOOP or vital-monitor take the cardiovascular system into account but doesn't consider the orthopedic system. It can happen that HRV says, fullgaz and your legs are just empty.
Good overview but big price for small gain in data over Suunto and Garmin,
Maybe $30 a month is a good value to a pro athlete but to the normal commuter/weekend warrior this is totally out of touch. Guys who came up with this price point must make in excess of six figures and therefore have no sense of what $30 means to the average Joe.
Yeah im on the same page, but the thing is that they have no competitors so they can choose their own annoying price :/
AI.
Investors > Intelligence.
Artificial Inflation.
We are being priced out of life because of AI. Artificial Inflation.
Artificial Inflation creates pay-walled-region-locked-time-gated content.
Shit I'm over 150k a year and I still think $30/mo is too much for this.
Sponsored by Joe.
Joe Rogan
@@Posibrian Shit... I'll never see 150k in my life.
Took the whoop plunge today... Training for an event and big diet change so I looking to take training to the next level.. will see after a year if it was worth it as this is not cheap
I have had mine for 5 months and I absolutely love it. Stop sweating the membership if your serious about your training it pays for it self.
It doesnt pay for itself, too much manual entries, and almost always the same feedback if I do bad training or good training, definitely not worth it for non one time payment
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Well I’m sorry to hear that. I agree some days it tells me that I’m fully recovered yet I’m exhausted and there’s some days that tells me I’m exhausted yet I’m fully recovered. But it does help with my sleep so I keep it.
Scott Cugno yup, true
Can you direct me to some thing on how the video camera works and how one download the videos you would take while working out thank you
Charging that high a subscription is scandalous! Just sell the strap for £100 without the sub!
It used to be $500 for it, before the subscription was introduced...
@@no.remorse Because they learned they couldn't just gouge people ...they needed to kill them with tiny cuts...month after month.
After using it for a month, I found it to be worth it for committed athletes or people with high income. For most, it probably won’t be worth the price and there are good alternatives if you’re willing to do a little more work. So it comes down to how much that subscription matters with or without the contract.
I would like a watch on it and to see my HR live time without having to look at a 3rd party product. The subscription piece of this is a huge turn off.
The subscription price is 10X higher than it should be.
Heart rate variability can't be measured accurately over night like the Whoop strap does. It needs to be measured seated, every morning under the same conditions with an accurate monitor. The Morpheus M5 strap uses the only clinical validated monitor to measure HRV for consumer purposes. Also from a recovery standpoint, most wearables measuring HRV, show a sudden high increase in HRV as good, resulting in a better recovery score, which is not the case. When HRV suddenly rises, the parasympathetic branch (also known as the 'rest and digest' system) of the autonomic nervous system gets dominant meaning the body is trying to recover from any mental and/or physical stress. So adding too much training load may result in a low HRV score because the body wasn't fully recovered and shifts back to the sympathetic branch (the 'fight or flight' system) due to additional stressors. A higher training load would be appropriate again when the HRV score returns to basline (which is the average HRV score of a certain period).
So do you wear or recommend using a Morpheus M5 to determine when you've recovered from a serious workout (i.e., HRV score returns to baseline)?
Measure your resting first thing in AM. Stand up, count to 5, measure and over time, between the two, you have a metric on level of recovery. Simple and free with things you already have. Whoop that!
Huge!
I want to buy the Straps not another subscription for 27€/month. That is pathetic!
What would you do with the strap without the software and analytics? It's just a dumb little monitor that probably costs $30 to manufacture, a total commodity. It's the software that costs money to produce and provides any value. If other HR monitors captured variability and RHR during sleep I'm sure they'd be happy to let you use what you already have. I'm sure they'd be happy not to have to send you a strap to use their service anyway, it's just an expense and organizational distraction to them.
@@janbrittenson210 Using their strap serves brand recognition. If others see you are using their strap, lets say during a sportive, its free commercial for them :)
I can recommend the Garmin Vivosport with gps
@@janbrittenson210 Do it old-school and sell the software for a one-time price... without signing over all your personal data to some company...
@@Krisszhu1990 Right on. I saw Justin Thomas and Xander Shauffele (pro golfers) wear it at a golf tournament last night, and was wondering what it did. Not sure if I will get it based on some comments posted here. I am not worried about the money, just don't want another device that I would use for 3 months, and then stuff it in a draw. I have an apple watch and so far pretty useful.
Just bought the Oura Ring which it's a pretty much identical product with great accuracy, a lot better battery life and don't charge a monthly payment. Just a one time purchase.
Love mine too!
My only issue - and the reason I went with Whoop instead of the Oura - is that I read that the Oura scratches with metal on metal contact so shouldn't be worn when lifting weights and doing functional training. Have you had any experience with this?
Really great looking product, but I just can't afford that type of monthly payment at the minute, big shame 😭
As soon as I hear subscription I unsubscribe to the that piece of tech,I have to pay out enough per month for living as it is.
I used to think the same way. But I ordered my first ever Whoop strap and after 2 weeks I guess I will try it. If it works for me, it will improve my performance. If not, just cancel your subscription. I have been having so many days when I felt really bad but I still kept going. This thing has to help you to feel your body. Listen to your body, not your training plan!
Unfortunately, this is the way IT companies see the chance to make money for their employees living.
Have a look at the Oura ring! No subscription. I really like mine
@@buzzi2k Thanks mate,I`ll check it out.
Everything tries to get you to subscribe these days. Just trying to milk all they can out of people. No thanks.
I used this religiously for 6 months , found it didn’t do any better than feel , in fact feel was more reliable , conclusion, waste of money !! taking my HR just before lights out at night was a good indicator of how much stress I had in my system .
Though it would be great to actually see training effect and be able to adjust training plans on short term, I have had bad experiences with HRV measurement. I have been using Elite HRV for months some years back and have been testing its consistency. Luckily, it was incredibly easy to test: the morning measurements (before getting out of bed) can be done as many times as you want in a row. And the results were shocking: at times on both extremes of the spectrum, by measurements right after each other. On those occasions when it was "rather consistent", there was still always a deviation that could not be explained by the body "gradually waking up". It may be that Elite HRV has flawed sofware, but at least I could prove for myself that it made no sense to continue using it and certainty is everything when it comes to measurements in training. The issue with Whoop is that it seems to be making measurements according to a pattern for reasons of "consistency", so you cannot redo measurements right after each other at will, to test for accuracy. In other words: the singular HRV measurements at night prevent you from verifying whether the system is accurate or not by doing several measurements in a row (which should all show the same results due to minor time difference of minutes). In fact, since for some reason the makers decided that it should work that way, there is no way to verify whether the software makes any "self-corrections" either, to "even out" any inconsistencies. What you see in the end is just a matter of programming.. True, none of the HRV equipment software can be verified that way (unless some smart programmer disassembles it fully, but I doubt such an expensive commercial product is open source), but if you use an other HRV app, you can redo the test and in the case of Elite HRV it just proves that data is inconsistent. It should not be possible that you are 3 in the red and a fewminutes later 7 in the green on a scale 1-10..
As for all the other measurements: most mobile phones nowadays have a built in giroscope, I use a sleep app myself that measures sleep length, depth, etc. with a lot of analytical options and correlation analyses features ("Sleep as Android" from Urbandroid). So this strap is not adding much to measurements of a (HRV enabled) strap and a mobile phone, other than more in-depth software. At 30 USD a month I find it overpriced for what it offers, especially considering the questionable HRV measurements that is not properly developed yet.
Id love to hear an unbiased review of why this Whoop is worth ~600% ($720/2 years!) more than any competing, buy ~$120 every ~2 year, smart trackers? Garmin, for example offers many of these same features sleep tracking stress monitoring, "body battery"; as do most other competitors. Whoops interface looks nice, but I'm struggling to see anywhere near that much value added. If it is indeed very good analytics it could be competitive at $5-$10/mo, not 30/mo, IMO.
Does it work if you wear it on your leg (I am not allowed to wear any bands on my arms and legs, therefore the only option would be hiding it in a sock. Or can you maybe add a „workout“ or practice without wearing it during that time?
$30 per month? - count me out.
broke.
@@mattw1829 Nah, seems he's smart with his money
@@mattw1829 imagine buying something and having to pay to use it, you absolutely stupid person
@@serginaru you don’t have Netflix? Or Hulu? Or a cellphone? Or a computer?
Strava and whoop have both (subscription modeled) their way out of my life.
I use the whoop and it has really helped my understand my fitness and sleep needs. Wonder if Si would be willing to share his Whoop recovery and strain data?
I got this to help track my daily strain and recovery. Again I won't focus on all the good stuff as whoop cover this. I have had some issues and to be fair they have been good at replying. My biggest concern is it doesn't track data consistently. My sleep is usually off and I have to manually edit most days. I love the idea but much prefer using training peaks to monitor training tss. Then also there is good research around actually taken HRV in morning, which is what endurance athletes have. done for years. This can be done with a fee app and polar HR strap. Also my Garmin watch is pretty good at tracking daily stress and I don't need to pay every month.
To be able to use my toilet I have to pay for a toilet paper subscription
Funny how people justify subscripciones In isolation. By that I mean the standard defense seems to be It only costa the same as two coffees a week So give them up and hey presto. Trouble is people already have Zwift, Strava, Trainer Road, Netflix , Music streaming , their phone Bill etc etc and It all adds up. That and it's a particularly high subscripciones cost. I was really intereses but that killed It for me.
Does it matter how you wear the strap band? on top of your wrist or on the bottom?
How is this any different than most Garmin type watches on the market already? I understand that it gives you your recovery info, but that's about the only difference. Garmin, and I'm sure others, track calories, HR , steps, sleep, HRV, Stress and lots more. Seems like it the recovery portion catches on, Garmin and others will expand their software to include it as well.
It’s a more expensve subscription?
instead of paying garmin once for a watch, you can pay whoop every month for a bracelet.
this is 30$ per month :))
I'm running them side by side and the whoop is much more accurate data and gives you tangible actions. I've discussed directly with the company Garmin partners with and to get the accuracy you need to upgrade to their platform and pay much more than whoop.
I need to sleep more. Got the Whoop. The setup process is a lil tricky but overall I like it. Just uploaded a more honest (nonpaid) review.
Please make a video like this about the Polar Ignite which has similar functionality!
We all have the same issues with the subscription . Any other device does similar things for no subscription. I want that recovery feature on fitness watxh
What exactly do they have a patent on? I thought the oura ring tracked all the same sleeping metrics.
Thanks for this vid Si, b/c I been thinking of getting a Whoop. Of all the vids out there this one has been the most technically informative. However, could you please explain what it is really like to practically live with the Whoop? Are you supposed to wear it ALL THE TIME? A you supposed to shower with it or miss that key 10 minutes of HR data after a ride? If so, how do you keep the fabric strap clean and prevent it from getting stinky? It's a real question b/c I live in a tropical (very hot and humid) environment and when cycling the sweat just runs down the arms like rivers. Will wearing it in the shower with soap keep it from getting stinky like my cycling gloves? In this environment its a serious practical question.
I already have a Garmin. Most smart watches these days have these features.
Unfortunately not many have heart rate variability.....although I think, to an extent, the Garmin Vivosmart 3 does....? I was sorely tempted to buy one of these Whoop straps, but the idea of even the cheapest subscription means £1200 in 6 years, which is frankly absurd. I might buy a Garmin Vivosmart 3 off Amazon for £160 and get almost all of the function of this....
@@rossfripp4503 I don't think HRV alone is worth getting any smart watch, unless you have a medical condition. For general recovery from workouts, I have been using my resting heart rate which works fine for me. My RHR after a hard workout (e.g. a long run) increases for a day or two by up to 5 to 10 bpm. Once it settles down I also feel ready and recovered, which is also reassuring.
Know I'm coming in late, but most Garmin trackers do utilize HRV just not in a direct way and they are called different things. HRV goes into Garmin's calculation of the body battery, similar to Whoops recovery %; and stress scores.
Surly if you are going to wear a watch like gadget, it could at least tell you the time
but you have have a watch for that purpose - personally I just want something that would look like a bangle/bracelet for my non-watch arm.
If Apple collaborates with Whoop and incorporates this tech into their Apple Watch at reduced monthly cost I'd seriously consider getting an apple watch.
@Robin Hennessy. Good point, but that model aims to a specific audience, not a tiime watch.
But it's not a watch type gadget, it's a fitness product...
The Oura ring is a comparable product (focused on recovery) with no subscription. Solves the two-strap problem too for those who wear a watch. Love mine!
Correct me if I'm wrong - but I think you're wearing the strap incorrectly - The WHOOP logo should be facing inwards...? The correct way is shown at 8.59.
I was/am ready to commit to this Whoop strap. I have an Apple Watch but like the idea of a 24/7 connection to my HR. I was even ready to drop $300 USD for an 18 month subscription (works out to be about $17 a month at that point which is in the realms of doable) but then shipping was $50 USD (to Canada). I just cannot get behind it at this point. For $350 USD I can get better pieces of tech that will more than likely serve me better.
WHOOP there it is.
😂😂😂😭
If you wear it 24 hours a day, how do you charge the battery?
You don't need to remove it from your arm. You just slide the charger, actualy another battery, which you can charge with normal USB cable.
There's a monthly subscription for that, too . $5/extra for BT charging
Nice, but I believe that this sort of functionality is already available in my Garmin watch. And it's free! Nice but REALLY don't need another added expense.
I'm just wondering if the app will give you some advices, if at some point you don't click "shared the bed" in the next morning. Hmmmm....
😂
My experience sucked:
My Whoop failed. No customer service number. Took a few weeks to get an email response, then a few more weeks to receive a replacement. All the while still getting charged a monthly fee
Personally I find that the "real-time" feedback is lagging so when I trying to workout off of heart rate I can take minutes to catch up. Something I hope they will improve.
It is pretty good to have especially when you can track your sleep a lot better. But trying to cancel the subscription is easier said than done. On the site it said I can cancel after 3 months... 6 months later I’ve still got another month until it ends. Plus because it’s a none English purchase they charge you more than just the whoop subscription. Other than that it is good to have.
If I decide to cancel the subscription, is the device then useless or will it at least be good as a HR monitor for pairing with wahoo elemnt or zwift or anything..?
If you cancel your subscription you won’t be able to analyze any New data. You will still have your old data saved from when you had a subscription - but that's it. The whole idea is : you need the subscription to be able to use it.
can you use your with this app?
i finally bought one. it took 6 months for delivery due to pandemica 2022. its expensive for me.
I have to hold my hand up to being one of the typical internet trolls that criticised the previous video for what turns out was no good reason. I was unfairly critical of the Whoop rep's explanation of HRV, which was answered fully and succinctly in the video.
However, it's good to see that you've taken the description of what Whoop does and why, and paired it with the display of Whoop doing it.
Cheers Robin, editors have done a stellar job on this one (don't tell em we said so)!
It would quite interesting to hear Sis opinion, when he has used it for a couple of month. Does it actually help to “estimate” his training...instead of smashing it every single time😂😂😂
...and e.g. does it help estimate the training (or not training) around a flu?
I'm sure Si would be happy to proffer the long-term Whoop positives, but being a sponsor, you won't hear much about the downsides.
So I have to subscribe for 20$ or more a month AND then I also have so give this company 100MB of my valuable data to as well? Personal data has real monetary value. You are paying with your money and your data. Absolutely not pleased with this product.
You're not forced to buy it BTW.
@@christopherfarrell-artist3557 Sure, i know. But in my opinion their approach is dubious
THIS!!! That data will be valuable later on, especially if it is written in their terms that they own what they collect.
Well good alternative for this is biostrap try it instead guy's
Just how tight does the band need to be? In the video it appears to be quite snug on his wrist. I think that would drive me crazy if it has to be that tight.
Should've said subscription thing AT THE BEGINNING. Deal breaker for many people.
I would have bought this thing probably a year ago when i found it but the subscription model is the hang up for me.... :/ wish they didnt do that.
Is it just for biking or can I use it running and swimming?
You can use it for nearly every sport.
How does this info differ from what garmin already offers??? It doesnt sound any different from the 935
Doesn't sound any different from my Forerunner 45 either. Came here to say exactly that.
Near similar output on my Garmin 830 training load indicator which is measured while you stand, I tried to make it work for a month, every day, didn't work for me, this and other training related Features on the 830 is comming from a company called firstbeat. The other features work, this training load indicator just dont.
I've got a 645 music as well as a whoop 3.0. The Garmin does give training status data, but it is purely based on the heart rate from activities causing it to be insufficienly accurate to do anything with. It is a similar situation with the sleep tracking, although it shows your sleep, it doesn't do much with that. Woops strap is measuring heart rate all day many times more frequently than a Garmin that needs to conserve power for other uses, making that training load metric much more accurate. Combined with HRV measurements (a true measure of recovery) it much more accurately determines recovery and recommended strain, making optimising your workouts and schedule much better. It also helps you determine what habits and other factors might be causing you to have a decreased recovery and helps you change that through the daily survey.
I bought a medical grade hand held ekg machince for about 100 (actually recommended by a cardiologist). it will tell you if your heart is pissed off. you can also get blood pressure cuffs you can while working out and sleeping that will interpret similar things indicating stress or low bp ie lower than 90/60 while sleeping or over 120/80. both of these can be had for lower than a 6 month sub to whoop. the thing is cool but overpriced. and instead of getting some arbitrary number between 1 and 100 you get real data that can be stored and interpreted yourself or you can take it to your primary doctor to see if you hurting yourself from overtraining.
It's a good job Eddy Merckx had one of these whoop thingamebobs or he wouldn't have won all them grand tours 👍
is there an alternative to this that is not subscription based? i wear a "real" watch every day, so i'd like something like this that is more of a bracelet than a watch.. but everything i find is watches..
I see at least 20 hearts more compare to my Garmin edge 1030....?? big surprise which one is correct? who know's.... thanks
Whoop there it is
A great HRV app is 'ithlete', have been using it for several years!
Love the relatively inconspicuous device, app looks useful, metrics totally cool, but subscription. no way. If I was ever seriously interested in tracking this kind of data I would rather pay for a Garmin with a high upfront cost without having yet another subscription and who knows what happening with all my personal data. No thank you.
Yeah the subscription really ruins it. Too bad :(
Does it work with Wahoo bolt? Fitbit does not. Also does the band get stinky when you wear it 24/7? Stinky is a standard option with fitbit.
Wildschwein Jäger my HR transmits directly from Whoop to my bolt during a ride. And no it’s doesn’t get stinky.
Yes it does!
@@gravelcycling9267 I wash mine after working out on the bike, when taking a shower. Since I cycle 4 times a week it gets washed regular and it never stinks :)
@@gcntech Yes it does work with Wahoo Bolt, or yes it does get stinky?
@@gcntech which question were you answering? Does it talk to the Bolt, or does it get stinky?!😁
The whoop band is terrible if you wave your arm around the heart rate sensor goes really high .. i got what it said was a great workout by cleaning my lounge table for 12mins.. if you spin your arm around like a windmill your heart rate goes up i also noticed it on an eliptical machine? Compared to my other device its terrible
30 usd is around 4-5 other subscriptions. Too much for general audience. And probably too gadgetty for pros. Then for who is it?
it's for pros.
How can they 2:20 have a patent on measuring anything, surely anybody can measure anything they want to?
They probably have a patent on their tracking system. How they measure.
Most watches don't ask for a 30$ subscription :))). it's like giving up zwift and trainerroad at the same time to support this. But at least you get the strap...for FREE!!! :)))
Stopped hoping for this because the prices are out of this world
Not cheap. Other products do similar things and are more cost effective. Need to compare them with other devices.
Great work from si as usual but this Only good for rich people, 30 dollars a month is almost 5% of minimal salary in Portugal. And with my Garmin Fénix 3 HR i have almost all these features and for the rest just need to study a little. Good job
Ours Ring same thing no membership fees
What about the fact that optical HR data for cycling (or other interval-like, non-steady-state training) is utter junk? WHOOP needs to add the ability to incorporate HR data from a chest strap.
it is verry good e
Nope not me. Think Garmin do it better in the new 945 and maybe the fenix. Also if an item is on your wrist what telling you the time ?
The other wrist
@@adamcoatham
Good point. So you would be evenly balanced. Still not sold on the ideal of it. Like another personal also commented another monthly subscription.
Mark Stone a phone
How reliable is it? Algorithms can be way way off.....i.e. estimated calorific expenditure.
Christopher Farrell I compared whoop HR with garmin and 4iiii readings and it was all over the place. My calorie read on a rest day was 4000+ and I was supposed to sleep 11-12 hrs each and every day. I returned it bc the HR accuracy was very poor, and with poor HR accuracy almost everything else fall to pieces. the calorie and strain didn’t make sense and suggestions were “off”.
So they have a patent on measuring your heart rate at night to use as a benchmark? Sounds like bs.
Dozens and Dozens of youtubers showing off the whoop ..... They came out to the market with big money, let' see how long they last.....
They could of made this app for all smart watches.
a lot of People Say 30$ is too much but buying aero Helms ect is ok.
Sounds great but the price is too high I thought about buying a wristband today but $30 a month?? It should be $30 for 6 months.
I surf directly to WHOOP website since I watched this video with the the sole intention of buying this device (honestly I don't usually use to buy things out of emotion, but I was going to), but as most of us immediately step back with the subscription monthly fee (It was as an orgasm, pretty high emotions and them pretty low, low emotions). I mean it would be good and useful to have that data in your wrisband, but I see a lot of people no buying that ridiculously membership and I see a lot of people who buys the membership canceling before the year. First I think it's killing the product before gets strong, second stop the company to start gaining momentum which is crucial and third it gives others the opportunity to copy them (even make better) and do right what WHOOP should be doing now. I made the math and If I used this band for 10 years it would be 3,000 Euros, what wristband does it cost that crazy amount of money . WHOOP the comments says everything...
Is a subscription model with a twist. If you cancel after the 1st month and tou were stupid enough to pay in advance you see no money back. Its like whoop there goes your money.