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ANCHOR WINDLASS STRIP & ASSEMBLE - Quick Argo entire winch assembly
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Catamaran Impi is sailing around the world.
For Impi, cruising pleasure comes from doing preventative maintenance projects and this is about our QUICK windlass strip and assemble project with a 10 year old windlass on a boat that sails full time and occupants who live at anchor all over the world.
I am not one to feel passionate about doing technical videos, however, when folks heard I was stripping our windlass to replace bearings and seals, brushes to the motor and more, they asked me to please video the event.
This video is therefore for ordinary sailors like you and me (and not for the expert) - it is how we achieve this with limited means and with limited resources to tools living on our boat.
To Make Viewing And Going To Relevant Sections Of The Video EASIER For You - We Have Time Stamped Under Headings Below:
We Include The Following:
Overhaul Top Section
Overhaul Gearbox
Some Work On The Electric Motor
It includes parts we use as well as how I built a flange that was corroded after the agent said we had to buy an entire new unit and they do not sell the flange separately.
I will try to help out by leaving some time codes here for those who want to only see portions of the work done:
00:00 Brent Chats About The Video Content
1:34 Intro
2:06 Stripping The TOP SECTION (Also 19:37 Seals, Bearings & Shafts. At 26:36 - Assemble Top Section)
2:52 A Discussion About The Housing Base
3:14 How Debris Is Expelled
3:50 Top Flange Corroded Away Due To Seal Damage In Top Shaft
3:54 Hose Off The Chain When Raising Anchor
4:00 Remove The Lower Section (Gear / Reduction box & Motor)
5:05 Removing The Electric Motor & Housing
5:56 Stripping The Gear / Reduction Box
10:10 I Modify / Build My Flange Due To Not Being Sold Separately
11:10 Checking Seal Surfaces etc.
11:24 Using My Puller To Pull Bearings (We Improvise)
12:18 Preparing Surfaces And Installing Bearings
15:02 A Bit About The Worm And Worm Gear
15:38 Fitting Seals And Which Way Around To Install Them
18:51 Installing My Fiberglass Flange
18:56 Installing The Electric Motor
19:37 Top Section Bearings, Circlips, Shaft & Seals
20:28 Social Media MAte Chuck Lanter Has A Stubourn Shaft. he Shows Me A Great Method To Pull The Shaft Upwards Without A Hydraulic Press (Remember To Remove The Top Circlip
20:47 Removing Circlips
20:54 Shaft Is Removed. It Can Also Be Removed By Hammering Upwards On The Botoom Of The Shaft But Be Careful Not To 'Buldge' The Bottom Of The Shaft As It will Make For A Difficult Re Assembly
21:12 Removing Circlips
21:23 Empty Top Housing (shows Casing & Outer Circlip groove That Holds The Shaft Bearings In Place)
21:29 Top Shaft Bearings & Circlips Installed
21:48 Installing The Shaft With Bearings To The Top Housing
22:03 Same Above Different method (without Access To A Press)
24:32 Installing Top Shaft Seals
25:22 Getting The Bed Surface Ready For The Top Section
25:50 Top Up With Oil (overfill And Adjust Level After Installed)
25:58 Fitting The Wiring In Place
26:16 Test
26:23 Quick look At The Top & Bottom Section Coming Together
26:27 Chain Counter Wire Holes (Our Set Up Was Wrong - We Do Not Have A Counter)
26:36 Assembling The Top Section
28:27 Some Stuff About The Electric DC Motor (opening it Up Quickly)
29:12 Unlikely To Happen But If You Burn Wiring Due To A Dead Short & Stuck In A Remote Location - You Can Help Yourself Out
30:52 Testing The Armature (30:56 Bar To Ground Test, 31:25 180* Test, 31:57 Bar To Bar Test)
32:15 Stripping the Motor
32:49 Armature Is Removed
33:06 Removing The Brushes (Different Ways To Do This)
35:37 Cleaning The Commutator Sailor Style
36:23 Clean Between Commutator Bars (ALWAYS)
36:53 Brush Set & Instalation
Sometimes I show Things More Than Once To Explain Myself Better
39:53 Sailing South This Week As We Ran From Cyclone OMA
PARTS CROSS REFERENCE:
BRUSH KITS:
CARGO BSX 124
OR
BOSCH Starter Carbon Brush SET 1007014100
www.amazon.com...
FEMSA 13784 - 27
Euro Reference: BSX12
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I don't know what your talking about, this is prime example of what a how to video should be, concise, no rambling, complete information. excellent job, do more, you're good at it.
Thank you Haliik - appreciate the great comment.
Thanks mate
Looks like boat maintenance is a LOT of improvising. Sometimes I wonder if manufacturers have ever experienced life at sea to witness how quickly dissimilar metals corrode in the marine environment. I guess the best manufacturers eventually become market leaders by word-of-mouth between yachties.
Thanks for taking the extra time and effort to make this technical video, it is much appreciated.
'n Draad en 'n tang, 'n boer maak 'n plan. LOL
Very true Douglas - word of mouth is setting the trend !
A pleasure to share this vid with you guys - l hoped by placing time stamps under the description it would make it easy for folks to just go to a part in the video that interests them instead of watching the whole thing.
n Draad en n Tang - yes for sure - lol
Cheers mate
Well, for someone who says they have no passion for technical videos, you did a fantastic job of that. Based on your level of knowledge and your improvising skills I’m guessing you are an engineer and/or a technician of some sort. I learned more about electric motors in your 5 minute segment than I have ever before. Thank you!
Thank you mate 🙏
Well I watched the entire video and as mechanical electrical technician for 33 yrs and counting I have to say not only was the presentation 100% but the technical advice top notch. May I and a couple pointers only to enhance future repairs.
Avoid bearings made in China/Asia, lesson I learned ,you had a mix there. Japan#1 USA#2
Item 1 always open your bearing seals on your new bearing and re pack , these seldom arrive with adequate grease SOMETIMES NONE ensure use manufacture recommended grease
Item 2 applying heat with a propane torch through the center of the bearing (do not touch housing with direct heat ) will allow bearing to slip onto shaft , you must be quick from heat to shaft (not warm Hot approx 2 to 3 min of heating) . To perform this I have channel locks with curve jaws that fit onto the bearings but any good quality channel loks will work. This will have zero stress on bearings, again check grease in bearing by removing seal without damaging seal.
No tapping bearings as in my books a no-no
Other then that
.. you my friend are a top notch Mechanic
Always enjoy talented individuals in the sailing community
Cheers and fairwinds from the @captains.chair
(Fyi there is other ways of heating the bearings, this is done when I am in the field and have no others means)
Hi Jim and what a valuable contribution by you here and also the kind words - great !
I sincerely hope folks who watch the video read these comments to get added tips to the repairs - great team work.
It's interesting what you say of the bearings - when I did my trade with Caterplillar in the early 80's I remember the brand 'Timken' being drilled into our heads, and later when I had my own earthmoving business I drilled that into the mind of the buyer in our company. I'm really pleased you made me think about this again and for sure - bearings are all important in this overhaul.
I agree with you that 'tapping bearings' should be a last resort. My mate Chuck was telling me how he placed the shaft in a freezer for a day or two to get it to shrink and says the bearings went on fairly easily afterwards. It reminded me of how we used to use liquid nitrogen for this, and then ( not sure it's the greatest practice) at Caterpillar we had a tool where one places the bearing on a rectangular bar using magnetic forces - a type of induction heating - to expand bearings before fitting to a shaft. In the field far from workshops we used to boil up oil in a bath (oil drum bottom section cut through and blow torch) but I must say I had never considered heating through the center ring of a bearing but can easily see how that would work.
As for the seals in the bearings - agreed - actually we used to remove the one seal entirely and leave it open to the oil side so it literally bathes in the oil but there are advantages / disadvantages in that and I can see your suggestion of re packing grease and wonder what grease would be preferred (you mention manufacturer recommended grease but wonder if there would be a standard).
Thanks again for sharing the finer points and hope more folks will do so.
Cheers for now
Brent
Holy heck that is a very thorough video, well done .
Always wondered whether a horizontal wind lass is better than vertical..doesn't make sense having all that business directly below the gypsy. Now you know what spares you need on board and have the knowledge to fix it. When you apply this to all the systems you have there is thousands and thousands of dollars on the table to be saved...and empowering to be able to fix yourself. Well done.
Thank you Sabbaticus. Yes I must say I don't enjoy the vertical windlass but it does have its benefits especially in deep anchorages when it gets to the rode as there is more grip around a vertical windlass verses horizontal windlass. But if I had the space I think I would be leaning toward the horizontal system. Hopefully by us all sharing stuff with each other we all get to save money and keep the dream alive :)
I cant believe i watched the whole video....but i did.
Very informative.
Liked the intro and outro to. (short and happy)
Keep sailing!
Thanks Guys - You know we love you right !
So pleased to see your channel doing well and hope to see you out cruising soon :)
I struggle a bit to find enough passion to push out technical videos but I also know it may help some folks - so we hope to achieve this.
Cheers my good friends ... Have a great weekend!
Brent
I am currently fixing my windlass on my Lagoon 400 and found this video of great help. The Quick windlass manual does not even cover 10% of the video’s information. Thank you!!
Thank you VERY much for the video! I was anchored and when tried to pull it up, the windlass was very slow… So found your video, cleaned the brushes (never done it before) and it worked perfectly again! Thank you for saving my a..s.
I’m subscribing🙌🏝⛵️
I’m so happy we can do something that helps 🤗🙌
I enjoyed this great video thoroughly. Thanks for going so far out of your way to bring all the little details into view and explaining things clearly so people like me can understand what's going on. Thanks for sharing. Hope you don't get tired of doing things like this. I really appreciate the trouble you went through to make such a wonderful video. It is truly a gem. Cheers mighty Impi and fair winds
Robert - you are always such an awesome guy mate ! I appreciate the comment especially since time was difficult for us. The past while has been a bit crazy with issues back in South Africa, doing maintenance prep for our trip to Indonesia and running from a cyclone last week - lol. So your comment is appreciated ! Cheers mate
If you rebuild the kohler generator please do the same great video, good music on it 🙏🏻🥂
Wow! What a thorough and utterly amazing rebuild video! Masterfully done! Watched it from start to finish, then went back to review parts. Your flange is simply amazing!
Thank you kindly !!! The flange was almost a case of - DESPERATION - lol! Cheers mate
Do you get the replacement bearing numbers from the manufacturer, or just the web knowledge base? Some manufacturers won't give out bearing info as they would prefer you to buy a new device.@@CatamaranImpi
You can remove the bearings, take the numbers off the race and call any bearing supplier who will match or cross reference the numbers for you, or even better, take the bearings to a bearing supplier and have him match them. It would be worth reading Jim Andersons comment about which bearings to go for since he has been more 'hands on' in recent years.
To be sure, the agents of these units will be very reluctant to give you the bearing cross reference numbers and I understand that - oit's their business.
What really did upset me was that the 'Quick' people in Australia expected me to buy an entirely new windlass just because my flange was corroded! That is ridiculous !!!!
Since 'I am not rockerfella but the other fella', I decided to make one - it's been on the boat full time for about 2 years now and we anchor almost every day and is the reason I decided to clean it up, add some more layers to it for added strength - to be sure - it will never be the part that corrodes again :)
PS. If you have the same windlass - I show the bearing part numbers so you could also cross reference those to other makes of bearings
as always the best of all is your philosophy on preventative maintenance thank u I'm crying many of this things since started my circumnavigation on a 450 which is all so similar much gratitude for sharing the knowledge
Thank you for your nice comment 🙏. It’s a pleasure to share these things we’ve learned over the years and we still learn so much every day.
Enjoy sailing the world in your 450 and hope to share an anchorage with you some day 👋
Thank a lot, great help 🥂
Mate, great Vid' ! For someone who is not keen on making Tech' Vid's you absolutely aced that! Simple, informative and in layman's terms. I just finished yesterday completely rebuilding my Windlass (a Loframs Tigres Horizontal) probably 30 odd years old, seized & probably never serviced. Corrosion of the housing was severe, mainly due to the hot dip plastic coating cracked and chipped allowing salt & corrosion to form underneath it. Hopefully it will be good for another 5 years or so and one less job to do before I splash hopefully in April!!??
Aye Tex - awesome stuff mate and thanks for the great comment. We need to catch a drink or two again soon aye!
That Lofrans Tigres horizontal is great - I wish it could fit in the place of our one ! I was looking at the Falkon but has a height of 340mm. The Tigres is closer at 290mm but still would need a modification if I want to fit it. Unfortunately we are quite stuck with the vertical unless we go for a lower powered unit.
Looking forward to your S P L A S H Tex
Very useful video… Thank you 🙏 for Marie Louise
Impressive maintenance/refurbishing skills. No fear of diving deep into a complex assembly. The windlass looked pretty ugly before the refurbish. I hope a windlass does not look as ugly as this one did after only one year in use.
Thanks mate and sorry for the delay in reply. We've een sailing many miles since Covid started.
The windlass should give you years and years of service but it's best to check it through every year and make sure the seals have not allowed water through to the flange.
Great video.
One thing l do when o/hauling boxes is to centre pop,1 X dot inline with another dot & 2 X dots inline with 2X dots ect,from the bearing side cover plates to main housing & so on...that way you can clean everything up put it back together in exactly the same spot....but as l said , love your work ,great vid...cheers
Thank you for a great video…SO helpful.
Wow thank you for sharing. Learning all the time from you! 😊
Always a pleasure :)
Look Forward to your sailing travels peter
Cheers for this good info. I have the 1000w but I believe mostly the same configuration!
What a ripper video, so informative, to the point, clear and understandable. Well done. Did not even notice the length of the video, it could have gone on longer for me. Well done Brett.
Hi Gordon - thanks for saying so mate. I'm surprised at the great comments here mostly because I really felt it would be difficult to make a tech video like this interesting - so - I learned something - perhaps we should share more of the work we do on Impi. We actually did this one as a favor for some sailing friends who asked us to video the work we were doing on the windlass since they have similar models and said they were being told these items are not really serviceable and should be doing an entire replacement. So - thanks for the great comment and for encouraging us onward :)
Nice video once again , what a small world I’m actually anchored behind you
WOW Richard - I slept late but Ana was up doing Yoga and says she must have spotted you leaving this am :) - A very small world indeed
Excellent video as always. It is nice to have you as an instructor. You have the skills !
Thank you Pedro - never thought of myself as an instructor but hopefully sharing this will be of some help even if only to the future ... cheers mate
Good Man! Thank you very much to take the time and patience to teach us. I found your video EXTREMELY useful. May the winds be in your favor (you deserve it)!
Glad it helped! Thank you for commenting :)
Wow, great video. I just love all that technical stuff and as always, thank you for sharing....
Nice to hear that Robert - thanks mate. This one took quite a while mostly because we had to run south from cyclone OMA between. Always a pleasure though - even though my videos may be slow in coming out :)
Thanks great video. You have put a lot of effort and hours in to produce this. A LOT of people owe you some beers. For now I am going to tackle servicing the top unit only and rely on the fact I have a spare motor and gear box onboard. Servicing the gear box and motor will have to be learnt at another time and place. :) Big thanks as always.
Always a pleasure and pleased we could help 👍🍺
Thanks for posting that video, it was the best i've seen searching for my problem! I have a winch that will feed the chain out but jams hauling it in.
I'm missing the IMPI crew.
I hope you are all well.
Cheers from Toronto, Canada
Fantastic video! Thank you! Surprised I did not hear the words "n Boer maak 'n plan." anywhere... :) Excellent video, thanks again for taking us along on the ride!
Groete - Thank you - dankie Heinrich
Yes indeed - 'n boer maak n plan' lol - and for our fellow sailors not from South Africa this interpreted means ' A Farmer Makes A Plan' which also stems back to the days South Africa had world sanctions against it - we always made a plan to keep our machinery alive :)
Thanks for dropping a comment here mate - nice to hear from you again ...
What a great video ! Thanks for the detailed guide. I will add some of these steps (which I didn't know much about ) to my winch which has been due for 2 years ! Regards from the Bay of Islands
Thank you !
I really do believe the owners who focus on Preventative maintenance are the ones who get the greatest pleasure from their boating experience.
I'm remembering the Bay Of Islands since you mentioned it ... such an amazing and beautiful place it is :)
Cheers
I happen to like these type of videos too. I hope you do more of them.
Just started watching your channel recently and boy you have really interesting and informative videos .... keep 'em coming, great viewing, and you guys clearly enjoy your life! :')
Thank you so much Kate - we enjoy these comments because we do try to 'drop tips we learn' for folks new to the sailing life. When we embarked on this journey there was so little information available and we make it our mission to share. We slowed down the video posts recently because we have been busy but also because there are now so many channels out there, so one wonders if it's necessary to post anymore - but the spin off is the interaction we have with great folks like you.
Hope you have an awesome weekend
Woaw Brent, very impressive video, I thought you were just going to clean a little but you did a lot more than I was expecting. It must have taken you a long time and all that on video, amazing. The last part confused me but hey, I am only French 🤣 thanks again Brent for sharing and best from HKG as usual 🇭🇰
Aye Laurent - we love the French so be careful mate :D.
Yes, the video took quite some time for me to complete because we had cyclone OMA approaching and had to run south as we are not covered for insurance above 30*. Then of course it's difficult to get ones mind back into it, but what took me quite some time was to Time Stamp items under the video description so people can just go quickly to the parts they want with one click.
Anyway, if people are going to listen to my boring voice I guess I need to take the effort to make it worth their while - lol.
Cheers mate - not sure why the last part confused you?
Thank you Brent im new to your channel and loving it cheers russell from melbourne
Welcome aboard!
Very impressive captain,very impressive! Although longer than your usual posting, this was really a great way to illustrate how relatively simple some maintenance tasks can be if your just take your time. When working on my car, I always take photo's with my phone/camera just in case. It has saved my butt on more than one occasion!
Hey Grant - great comment mate!
Yes, the phone really helps a lot - I would say even taking video for CZcams in this regard has saved my butt a few times - lol!
Great video as always
Thank you Darko - Appreciate that comment and hope you have a great weekend :)
Excellent work, Excellent video. Thank you VERY MUCH for sharing!
I’m so pleased it’s helping folks out 🙌✨
Thanks for the feedback and an absolute pleasure
Wow Brent this was excellent and having tried my hand at creating videos I know a little about how long it takes to create such an video. The fact that you do this for no commercial gain is a testimony to your passion for helping others in the sailing community. Great stuff mate. P.S Glad you did not wear that new shirt while you were servicing the windlass :)
Awe thanks John - love that T shirt mate - I'm 'precious about it' ! Your comment is a major compliment from someone who gives so much to fellow cruisers. Your Rally is awesome John - we have seen so many people benefiting from the services you provide. Keep it up mate ...
Another great video Brent looked like a mark or two on the seal surfaces.
Hi Darren and yes - well spotted mate. I went ahead and assembled to complete the video but took out the main shaft to have the seal surfaces done - a must do for life of the seals. There was a lot more I wanted to share like using a vernier to make sure not to place undue pressure on bearings and to keep turning the worm during assembly to make sure it stays free. In the end I thought I may kill the video with over information. Good job Darren - cheers mate
Brilliant video
Thank you and so pleased it’s helping folks
well done mate top vid youve saved alot of people alot of time ...best of winds to you happy sailing
Cheers mate 🍻
Pleased we can share it on 👍✌️👋
a practice i have always found helpful. take a snapshot before you remove anything...use to do this with a polorid but now you can use your phone.
Hi Charles and yes certainly - taking photos throughout the process provides peace of mind when figuring out one or two things when reassembling ... cheers mate - great tip!
Awesome mate, I'm very impressed with this video and I fully agree with your view on preventive maintenance vs. fixing in exotic places.
Another episode of useful information.....I enjoy your vlog very much.
Thank you Mark - I appreciate that comment mate
Gaskets can act as a shim. So it’s an ideal to measure the distance while it’s together. Eg motor too flang
Hello Brent,
Very nice and useful video ! Quick should be grateful to you as they don’t have such nice and detailed video 🙂.
Nice video also the one in Tasmania , you combine technical explanation and fun, helping some people to realise their dreams, what a nice mission of life !
A good complementary video may be “how to shim bearings on windlass”. My English is not good enough (yet) to understand the comments you did to JC Clopton, and how you measure strain differences around the bearings to detect where shims should be placed.
I have the same equipment as you (same boat as well) and similar issues, the more important one being how to remove the bearings from the shaft when they are corroded due to electrolyse, as the previous owner did not use tefgel at all. I will try your advice I saw in one of your comments, that is to put the windlass and shaft into the freezer, then probably to heat the bearing and trying to not heat the axle using a tube as a thermal protection, and lastly see if the hammering method or hub puller method could work.
Am wondering also whether the freezer we have on board is powerful enough to freeze the axle to retract it.
A remark I have from the video is that you seem to use sika 291 to stick the windlass directly on the gelcoat, Isn t it too difficult to remove when you want to dismantle it ? I was wondering why you don t use the gasket that is proposed by Quick, so that only the gasket would be sticked with sika.
I wish you very good wind !
Bruno
Bruno L Hi Bruno and sorry for a delay in response - we have been very busy recently and missed some comments on our social media platforms. You always welcome to write to me on messenger on Facebook -
We have a page called IMPI and also
share some stuff on our cat Impi profile.
The trick with shimming the bearings is to make sure when you have tightened everything that the parts all still turn nice and free. This is a problem when you remove gaskets or shins because once you tighten everything up the parts can come under pressure and then the motor needs to work hard to get everything spinning.
When you have the worm and gear feeling free and centered you can measure the distance from the bearings to the housing end caps on each side of the worm pinion and then look at the ridge on the end cap itself and take that measurement too.
Of course when you put the end cap in place that ridge will take up most of the distance in the housing toward the bearing but you also don’t want the bearing to be loose, so the measurement for the shin will be the first measurement (bearing to housing where end cap bolts on ) minus the second reading (end cap inner ridge) = shin thickness.
If the ridge is going to apply pressure to the bearing without shins then of course you will want to put shims or gasket under the end cap for the measurement the end cap stands proud.
The trick is to just come up flush against the bearing without unnecessary pressure.
The two bigger end plates on the gearbox also need not to put pressure on those bearings so again one needs to just measure the distance . First put on the end plates and see what gap is there which will determine if you need gasket paper or if the tolerances allow for a flush mount using the gasket sealant I use.
By the way, no, that gasket sealant actually releases easy enough and one just cleans the surfaces afterwards.
Gasket paper may be better but it also is not good if bolts come loose and leaks because then you could loose the box. For this reason many people even use sealant with gaskets, so gasket sealant is good to use.
The only issue one can have is that if one tightens the end plates without gasket paper and the tolerances are too tight, you apply side pressure on the bearings and then the box does not turn well.
Perhaps I should have said more about this in the movie but I thought already it was too long and made reference several times about checking shims and the order they come out in as well as gasket thickness.
The important thing when you assemble the box is to make sure you will not be creating side pressure on the bearings after the worm
And worn gear are aligned.
If you have removed shims and kept a mental note on the order of things then put back the worm gear and worm pinion leaving the end caps off the pinion end and one flange plate off the gear and just center the gear tooth mesh so it all looks aligned. Then do the measurements I suggested for the end caps on the worm pinion and make up the gaps with shims as mentioned earlier. When it is tightened there must be no pressure on the bearings that makes the unit tight.
For removing the bearings when they are really corroded is difficult. You will see my friend Chuck with a huge contraption used to pull the shaft. Getting the bearings off the shaft can be done many ways but I sometimes use a dremel cutter (I have a dremel tool on the boat) and carefully cut through the bearing until it is very close to the shaft. Then apply a bit of heat to the bearing and it will pop off immediately.
The trick with the fridge is when you put the bearings back on. You only put the shaft in the fridge freezer section but keep it there for a day. Then the bearings should go on easily.
Otherwise you need to have an engineering firm press on the bearings.
I hope this helps and if not please correspond with me on messenger so I can share step by step - you could send photos as you proceed and I can help you get it together
My very best wishes
Brent
thank you for the Video
A pleasure Michael - please we could share it.
@@CatamaranImpi I love the maintenance videos
Great video and music!
Thanks
Great Vid, well done
Thank you Lk M
Loved the video absolutely awesome! Very informative how to video which I know must have been a pain to film and edit, but a few more of these would be good so everyone sees the not so glamorous side of yachting. Definitely inspiring me to do the same once we retire from the grid of work. Cheers from cold snowy Canada ❄❄❄
jones smith thank you sir :)
I must say I am pleased I did it now - tech videos are not very inspiring for me so I thought that may come through. It’s difficult moving the camera into position with grubby hands and getting the work done but I feel so inspired by knowing it meant something to others. Perhaps I can shoot a few more tech vids as we get tasks to do.
Sailing is a mix box of everything and one thing I do not want it to be is doing repairs and a pain in the butt off islands which is why we opted for a preventative maintenance program on Impi and it really has worked for us.
It does mean I get to help other people fix their boats off islands though but at least Impi stays clean and homely when it counts.
By choosing the tasks, the place to do them and keeping the boat new we certainly find sailing glamorous when actually sailing, but I would hazard a guess and say we spend about 3 months in a year doing solid ‘preventative maintenance’, many upgrades to new systems or tweaking systems and so on which then means we generally get the rest of the year trouble free ... well ... that’s how it’s worked out so far and I guess we could still expect the odd thing to go wrong.
I sometimes wonder how folks get by on the budget they declare for sailing the world over years and years but eventually reality happens and we see it so often where suddenly sailors are faced with a boat in need of a major overhaul and then it costs huge and the boat can be out of action for a year plus.
So, I certainly believe spending more and making sure to keep upgrading and replacing stuff is key to sailing pleasure and a realistic long term budget is then achieved. Cheers for our current address in Southport Australia ... Brent
Brent, great maintenance video! Really. Although you said it's not your thing :-)
greetingz, Wim
Hey Wim - all good dear friend and hope it's something of use to you guys along the way too. Now that we have some time again I should take a look at your channel :)
@@CatamaranImpi Even if we have a different electric anchor winch, the principles are the same, so yes, I'm sure it's of use to us, Brent :-) Oh, and you didn't miss much on our channel. Very slow progress, because we also have our daily jobs, and it's hard to get materials here. But we'll get there!
Such a solid video Impi! I know it takes a lot of time to do all of this. You have inspired me to do the same to mine. I’ve replaced the motor and bracket a year ago. By the way - when I talked to Quick to update the motor they said the topsection setup that we have is much much better than the new one that they currently sell.
Hi Steve and thanks for the great comment as always mate. And Yes, Chuck and I were chatting recently and he was saying how the Quick technician that worked on his Argo advised him not to go for the new unit as this one has such a solid top section. I just think they could have thought the top seal through a little better because I've noticed dirt does find it's way into those bearings if we don't rinse off the chain after anchoring in muddy waters.
Quick, Harken and Lofrans are using the same 1500W motor - just the bolts differ a bit - as in on the Harken 4 studs whereas on the Quick 2 studs. Saying that though, one can swap them over or in an emergency use a Harken winch with 4 studs entered into the holes on the Quick collar. One is able to place a nut on 3 of the studs in this instance however without the cover as the studs are shorter on the Harken.
Excelente video !
Thank You Luis - very happy about that comment mate
Great job mate 👍🏻 that’s a full rebuild done well...curious to what you used to do for a living ???you were obviously a hand on man with your work I rebuild cranes for a living but you still taught me something with the commutator testing and for that I am grateful
Jamie Darlington thank you 🙏🏻 - so pleased the effort seems to be helpful to some folks so now I feel it was worth doing it.
I started out my life as a diesel technician / mechanic for Caterpillar (did my apprenticeship with them), then Civil Engineering and ended up having an earthmoving business, so always around machinery. I found that preventative maintenance saved my company a lot of money and downtime so I have applied this model to our boat :)
Cranes are very technical things to work on so rebuilding them means you have a great understanding of mechanical techniques.
Cheers mate and so happy we could share the commutator tests too - I kinda just threw that into the end of the video and maybe should have spent a bit more time on it.
Keep strong and stay in touch
Cheers mate
Catamaran Impi thought so it definitely shows (from one diesel fitter to another I have been working as a field fitter on caterpillar gear in the mines but run my own company now) I have a few years to go yet but me and the wife watch you videos and dream of the day we retire and get a lagoon and follow in your footsteps we are both volunteers with bribie Island marine rescue and going through our coxswain tickets all we have to do now is learn to sail 😂 keep up the good work
Jamie Darlington - such a great message Jamie and I’m sure your dream will come true soon - just got to keep going for it mate :)
I was at a Barbie the other night with a great Australian guy who has a fishing vessel and he and his MRS do the marlin fishing thing quite seriously off your coast - she actually is amazing - marlin champion - took the contest last year I think and a very interesting couple.
He also is into cranes (also named Jamie) and hires them out in Sydney but lives up here in the Goldcoast.
For what it’s worth mate - I really hope you and your wife get to have that boat soon and the most important thing about sailing the world is not an understanding of sailing, but understanding weather, so now would be a great time to start preparing for your journey by doing some courses on weather at sea.
Please keep contact mate - we look forward to seeing you guys splash!
Thank you for the information very helpful.
dearest Brent and Ana, hoping you are both OK, your vlogs are sorely missed, very best wishes, Moz
moz aye thanks so much Moz - we always enjoy hearing from you.
We got a bit caught up and time just seems to get away from us.
Thank you for keeping us in mind - we have not forgotten our good friends on this platform and we will post again.
Thanks for your kindness
Our best wishes to you
Brent and Ana
@@CatamaranImpi glad you are both OK - be safe and well
Slows the whole task, making a video around it...that’s for sure! Sometimes I think Patrick fixes something 10 times just to get the proper video captures of it! -Rebecca
Rebecca - I'm so sorry I missed this message. We sailed from Malaysia through West Sumatra over the top of Australia to get to Cairns - it was hectic. I got the very sad news about Patric - its tragic - I feel deeply saddened for your loss and the loss of a great man to our sailing community. We recently also lost two friends at sea off Tanzania - it's been a terrible time with this whole Covid thing - forcing us all to sail in directions and seasons we should not be, but we had nothing compared to your struggles. I wish we could reach out and give you a hug xxx
I think 518 is a better choice for gasket maker. What is your opinion.
Thanks so much for the video. I pulled mine apart today after a failure, and found the mud and salt under the gypsy had eroded the housing away and failed the upper bearing and seal too.
Awesome video!!!
Thank you Terry !!! I hear you are selling lots of boats ... awesome stuff lad! I saw you have a 440 on the list ?
totaly amazing thank you a lot
Thank you Thierry !!!
Love it thanks so much... We are looking to buy our own Cat and love to understand better the maintenance of it, Though I think I am not ready for windless maintenance. Do you have more info on the Down Under Rally? I will look it up. Maybe it is like the ARC Rallies?
Keep up the great work
Thanks for sharing I own Lagoon 440 :) Very informative. Please can you tell me whats the part number for vertical shaft bearings
How much would reworking a windlass cost at a machine shop? Should be worth a few hundred USD. How long did it take? For those of us without machine shop/engineering experience that seems like a lot of work.
Hi Jc - I thought I had replied but perhaps it did not go through.
In bearings and seals the cost is more expensive in Australia than in South Africa for example, but still worth doing.
Here is a break down:
1 of 30x47x7 Seal = AUS$ 2.66
2 of 35x62x7 Seal = AUS$ 10.65 (tot)
1 of 45x60x8 Seal = AUS$ 6.56
2 of 6009-2RSC3 Bearing = AUS$ 60.75 (tot)
1 of 6304-2RSC3 Bearing = AUS$ 12.57
2 of 6007-2RSC3 Bearing = AUS$ 33.98 (Tot)
1 of 6206-2RSC3 bearing = AUS$ 15.71
2 of A35MM Circlip = AUS$ 2.00
1 of J62MM Circlip = AUS$ 1.50
TOTAL = AUS$ 146.38
I didn't have time to shop around but am sure one can get these cheaper if you shop.
Bearings can be reused if the budget is tight and they look ok. We replace them mostly because I don't trust bearings and a collapse can be the cause of loss to the entire box.
If one is careful not to 'stress the bearings' which is easily done in these boxes, they could last for well over 10 years with everyday use. I did not really go into 'shimming' much on the video but to have long life in the bearings and prevent placing unecessary strain of the electric motor and everything else, shimming and gasket thickness is very important - and is why I mentioned observe shims and gasket thickness.
To get great life from the internals I would recommend using a depth guage to measure down from the casing to the bearing of the worm gear with one side cover installed and do the same for the bearing to cover where the bearing sits in the cover to where the flange will meet the casing. This will tell one how much side pressure will be placed on the bearing once the bolts are being pulled tight, which means the ball bearings will run hard to one side of the race. So we make up the difference in gasket thickness or shims.
We do the same on the worm ends and by doing all this we keep the bearings free and with bearings running free the elec motor will also have less work to do. This will make the overhaul worth the while hands down if the internals are in great shape - verses buying new.
When it comes to machining - I would not know as the guys at The Boat Works where we were tied to a dock, did this at no charge and as a favor.
I would hazard a guess to say the machining in the cover for the oversized seal due to corrosion (I mentioned in the video) would have cost me about AUS$40 max
The seal surfaces on the vertical shaft (I did not show being done in the video since I wanted to get the video out) would have cost me a similar amount.
Jc - if all parts are in great shape it would take an ordinary guy a day to do the work assuming you have all the necessary parts and tools to hand and assuming the unit comes apart easily. The most time consuming thing can be getting the unit off in the first place and mostly because folks don't lube the shaft with a good product on assembly, and that shaft becomes frozen.
I now regularly take the lower section off, lube the shaft, and pull it back up. This si why I created an extra access to the 'hard to get to' nuts and threads. I now need to put a cover onto it - like one of those marine screw type hatch covers, but at least it's easy to fit and remove.
To be sure, it's a lot of work but for those who need to save money and keep the dream alive - they will find a way, and it is for those folks I was creating the video. I would have one into a lot more detail on shimming and gasket thickness if it were for experts to use. I hoped that by saying 'watch for shims and position of shims - watch for gasket thickness and reassemble with similar gasket thickness that in this way they get away from a whole lot of technical detail in assembling these boxes.
When it becomes technical, is when you see the worm and worm gear wearing poorly or gold bits of glitter in the oil - THEN - it gets technical :)
Cheers my friend - I hope this helps
@@CatamaranImpi WOW... great response. Thanks for all you do... My wife and I will be joining you on the deep blue seas in a few years... We are looking into Maverick 440 hybrids right now. Currently saving our pennies to make it happen. We have about 7 more years before the kids are all grown enough to get out of the house. Until then, we just watch CZcams videos and dream.
Jc Clopton - fantastic - we know Rudi we’ll (Maverick) so please send our regards.
I look forward to your ‘splash’ and so nice for you guys to be working toward your dream ... so many people work just to survive so having a dream and knowing what you want to achieve through everyday grind makes it worth the while.
Cheers for now
Brent
Amazing, I would have thought it took much longer than 40 mins to strip and rebuild and entire winch assembly 🤦♂️ How long did it really take to do this ??, how often do you perform this maintenance ?? and finally - and most importantly - how did Ana do learning Indonesian ?? Stay safe and be good.
Hey Glen - not sure again why my response did not post!
Yip - I would be lying if I told you how long this one took me to do mostly because I had stripped the unit, waited for certain bearings and seals to arrive as well as electric motor brushes which we had to import, but all things being equal if I had the spares and tools at hand I would consider it a job done in 1 day on the boat.
We first stripped the unit after 6 years and I do it every 2 years because we live on the anchor and I want to make sure the parts remain 'fresh' / efficient. It's probably an overkill but the top section seal gets replaced regularly to make sure no dirt is getting past it to the top bearings.
Ana's Indonesian - LOL - she is doing great and is good at languages, but she says Indonesian is quite difficult although many words translate back to Dutch which we understand so that helps with some words. Thanks mate - take care aye! Brent
Great video Brent you really are pushing me to service my Quick windlass but lucky mine is a horizontal Hector 1500w.
I have for years used a socket to seat bearings and seals. Choose the correct size on the edge you need to knock and it’s easier as you are knocking the whole surface at once. As long as the centre shaft is short or non existent it works great.
Are the harken brushes cheaper than the quick ones 😂
Aye Mike - yes I will admit I wished I had your horizontal windlass !
Sockets work great if one has the right sized sockets so that is a very cool idea. Chuck Lanter who features in the video told me he even puts the shaft into the freezer so the bearings just slide on there and it reminded me of the days as a Caterpillar mechanic, we used liquid nitrogen to shrink shafts.
As for the Harken brushes - lol - nope - one should just buy them outside.
I'm looking to buy a spare motor since it fits my Harken windlass, Quick and also fits the Lofrans windlasses 12v 1500w.
The Brushes were $10 for a pack of 4 - lol - (they are 25 x 13 x 9 mm) . Harken told me they do not supply them!
You guys ever make it back to the Caribbean or US I'd love to meet you guys
We will pass through there in a few years. Thinking to sail to Indonesia, back to Australia en-route New Zealand for the Americas Cup and then head west again for that part of the world. We want to hang in the pacific - well that's the plan :)
Hope we get to have a beer together
Cheers mate
We have only just started watching your videos we are of about your age and are looking for a sea change. This sure is one. Can you tell me how old this boat is? We love your videos.
Jan - I did answer this a while ago and not sure why it never posted, but to answer again ... the boat is 10 years old. I cant believe we have been at sea full time for 7 and 1/2 of those years - time flies!
We really do believe that preventative maintenance has been key to our sailing enjoyment. By catching a part before it fails means less expense due to other items that fail as a 'knock on effect'.
We often see sailors posting costs or expenses at sea but we wonder how they get away with these costs sometimes. We have seen many times before that folks don't realize how things are slowly deteriorating on their boat so eventually they are suddenly lumped with a massive amount of work in difficult locations and in some cases we watched people having to sell their boats because of it. So we try to encourage our friends to be realistic when they average their monthly costs. Sometimes it can hit in year 5, 6 or 7 so we have always spent our money on preventative maintenance which has kept the boat in great shape and feeling new.
Brent interesting video to see how you do PM on IMPI . Hope Ana & you are doing well . Are ya's in Australia for the winter ?
Was IMPI pulled out of the water & on the hard while you were doing this ? If so were ya's staying in a local hotel near the marina ? John nice shirt that you presented to Brent !
Bob Shaw hi Bob - we doing great thank you and very busy getting things ready for Indonesia later this year. Impi is 10 yrs old so doing some upgrades cos we can’t face starting from scratch with a new boat :)
Australia is great - waiting for cyclone season to pass and then will venture further up the east coast and Great Barrier Reef for Thursday Island - and then scoot across to Indo.
We have not hauled Impi yet but will end of the month for new paint in the bottom, check rudder bushes etc.
Cheers my friend and hope all
Is well with you :)
Hey Brent...what grit is the emery paper?
where are you heading now going west ?
Hi Kate, Yes - after Cyclone Season we will head for some diving on the Great Barrier Reef and later on off to Raja Ampat region in Indonesia.
We may sail back to New Zealand via Australia for the Americas Cup but not sure about that yet.
Great video. How long was the entire project?
Hi Dave, The entire project is probably 2 days work if one is not filming and has all spare parts. We were doing other work between whilst we waited to get seals and bearings, so would not be a true reflection of how long it would take a person normally. The thing about this work is that if on anchor one can do it 'piece meal'. So within an hour you can have the top servicing done excluding seals and bearings. Within a day, if the shaft is not difficult to release (maintained previously with Tef Gel) the entire top section can be done in a day. The gearbox and motor would be a full day if all parts are with you - early morning till evening it can all be done, and sooner if you have the right tools.
Brent and Anna where the bloody hell are you????
Ian Gambrill hey Ian ! We have been super busy! So sorry, just arrived in Indonesia. Join us on Facebook or Instagram for short movies of our daily life facebook.com/100004063368997/posts/1804161059729322?sfns=mo
Shit how did you remember all that I bet you have experience of engineering or equivalent in your previous life!!
Mike New Zealand - lol - thanks Mike. I did my apprenticeship with Caterpillar as a youngster but on earthmoving equipment - not marine :) and after that civil engineering which is quite different.
I guess they drilled just enough into my thick skull to remember some of these things. The reduction box is actually very similar to the steering boxes on the big motor scrapers :)