💬 How To Use a Timing Light + Base Timing Setup | TECHNICALLY SPEAKING

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 10. 09. 2024

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  • @haltech
    @haltech  Pƙed 4 lety +5

    Today's video covers a topic which is relatively simple but at the same time is a subject that we constantly get asked to explain and that is - how to use a timing light to set up your base timing. Matt goes over the basics in this quick step-by-step tutorial.
    Got a topic you'd like us to cover? Leave it in the comments section!

    • @MrDkshauno
      @MrDkshauno Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Haltech, on your plug & play ecu's how accurate is your offset TDC in you base maps you provide? I know this always should be checked but surely your base maps will be accurate within +/- 2°?
      Cheers Shaun

  • @2slofouru
    @2slofouru Pƙed 4 lety +7

    Glad you made this one, every step you help us with helps save our builds and builds your reputation that much more. Thanks!

  • @PinkuStyle
    @PinkuStyle Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Used this to show a associate what he should be doing, This among many others reasons is why Haltech is the default choice of ECU for my builds and customers before any other option is even considered. Quality products and amazing customer service.

  • @abhi01231
    @abhi01231 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Very well explained! There are so many videos out there on the internet that fail to do so.

  • @avry87
    @avry87 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    You guys are great with all the videos you do, examples and everything, that even a newbie like me can understand, haha. Actually, I was searching for a video of this type a few days ago because it was something similar that I've seen before and I couldn't find it anymore, and you just uploaded one video with all the examples. Love it, keep up!

  • @BjornFSE
    @BjornFSE Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Informative. Rather than a How to use a timing light you showed how to Use a timing light With the Haltech ECU software and other ways to get it working for lets say coil on plug. Very well done. Good Job
    Videos like these are Golden

  • @j.osborne4914
    @j.osborne4914 Pƙed rokem

    Ok Im learning haha. I didnt know this was required so is likely part of my current problem trying to get a first start. Thanks

  • @dennismelville7532
    @dennismelville7532 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Great tip on the old spark plug wire!!

    • @2slofouru
      @2slofouru Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Truth, may do that with mine.

  • @gordowg1wg145
    @gordowg1wg145 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    If some of you are confused by the 520 figure for the timing to fire at TDC, the ECU can't anticipate, but counts from the crank sensor trigger point which will normally be a bit after TDC. So crank sensor triggered, 520 degrees or engine rotation, and ignition triggered for that cylinder.

  • @HighMansx
    @HighMansx Pƙed 4 lety +5

    "Zee" -- what kinda aussie....
    Love the videos! Haha

    • @haltech
      @haltech  Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Ahh... we can't win, it's either the Americans having a go at "zed" or the Aussies, Kiwis and Brits having a go at "zee". We might just call it ZZZZ.

    • @2slofouru
      @2slofouru Pƙed 4 lety +1

      I'm 'Merican and prefer saying "Z", some of the Z owners I know like to use "Zed". I've owned a few Zs, but definitely didn't dive in like some do.

  • @TrackSol
    @TrackSol Pƙed 4 lety +2

    Great tips!

  • @markavramovic111
    @markavramovic111 Pƙed 4 lety +3

    That's nice but what about cranking advance? Try and start an engine with 220 psi cranking with 15 degrees advance. Show us the difference between quick start, sync, wasted spark and the other parameters with cranking. A video showing how to set up this would be good, since before any engine can run, it's gotta first start.

  • @PANTYEATR1
    @PANTYEATR1 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    So what is performed first? Setting base timing or adjusting ignition latency? I believe one has to be re-adjusted after correcting the other... Thanks

  • @jorny32
    @jorny32 Pƙed 2 lety

    Legitimately helpful!

  • @Trevy222
    @Trevy222 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    I love these videos

  • @fernandohood5542
    @fernandohood5542 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    What do you do with coil on plug?

  • @djfluxysnowcott
    @djfluxysnowcott Pƙed 4 lety

    I noticed on the base map for a 01-05 wrx the TD offset is at 40 degrees, yet the 06-07 sti base map TD offset is at 400 degrees. Why are they different?

  • @xblisitjosh6736
    @xblisitjosh6736 Pƙed 4 lety

    😂👍 that was awesome get an old plug lead and cram it in the end of the coil pack 😂👌

  • @david92xj
    @david92xj Pƙed 3 lety

    What would happen if you used a TDC offset of 5° and not 520°?

  • @paulfritz4498
    @paulfritz4498 Pƙed 4 lety

    And how does it work if you have a dizzy not fixed timming

  • @Moymoy-25
    @Moymoy-25 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    does modern car automatically set the timing when aligned the marks

    • @Dagowly83
      @Dagowly83 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      No. It needs a reference.

  • @fajarfjr1726
    @fajarfjr1726 Pƙed 4 lety

    how about supersport bike that don't have TDC sight at the rotor cover?

  • @TRU7H
    @TRU7H Pƙed 4 lety

    Very Stupid Question: does it matter which spark plug wire I use? Isn't the TDC sign referring to a particular piston? How do I know which one is at top dead center? Thanks

    • @Dagowly83
      @Dagowly83 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      99% of the time its cylinder no.1

  • @christhorney
    @christhorney Pƙed 4 lety

    the problem im having is that with the ca18det, the cam sensor mounts to the actual cam belt cover, their is no bracket under the cover like their is on an rb, so i cant have the cam sensor mounted and check the timing with the timing light on the cams to make sure its firing at TDC, the next thing im going to try later today (once the battery gets some more charge into it) is using the exhaust cam through the oil filler cap to see if it flashes with the lobe facing the turbo and hopefully ill be able to know if im on the right 0 or if im 360 degrees off, fingers crossed it works lol

    • @jppelser4511
      @jppelser4511 Pƙed 3 lety

      Also struggling with timing on my ca18det..using coilpack and wastedspark ecu..timing sync on software and engine at 0 deg..then added 10 deg and engine sitting at 20deg

    • @christhorney
      @christhorney Pƙed 3 lety

      @@jppelser4511 you need to lock the ignition timing to 0 in ignition setup, then check the timing, adjust the cam sensor until your engine is as close as possible to 0, then change the offset in the ignition setup to get the engine to 0. From how you worded your issue it's hard to give you any more specific advice. But it sounds like either your timing is incorrectly setup or you have a timing correction table adding timing, so after (or before) you confirm your ecu knows where 0 is, then try locking it to 10. If your still having issues contact haltect support, they are SUPER helpful

  • @MrMightyytau
    @MrMightyytau Pƙed 4 lety

    How about a proper TDC mechanical check, as some new pulleys don’t have a TDC mark. As if you had done it the 5 degrees may have been obvious.

    • @haltech
      @haltech  Pƙed 4 lety

      We've covered a TDC setup in a separate video: czcams.com/video/2yoxiKJ1KzY/video.html

  • @juniorrc2003
    @juniorrc2003 Pƙed 4 lety

    Anyone have a name or part number for that special spark plug wire he had in the video to build the “spark bridge”?

    • @rrrated
      @rrrated Pƙed 4 lety

      Check ebay for coil plug tester. Plenty for around 5 quid on uk ebay.

  • @donr62
    @donr62 Pƙed 4 lety

    Appreciate that you’ve got to keep these videos simple but checking TDC with a screwdriver/indicator can be inaccurate. The piston positive stop method is the way to go 👍

    • @haltech
      @haltech  Pƙed 4 lety +1

      Yes, we have separate video dealing with that topic in detail:)
      czcams.com/video/2yoxiKJ1KzY/video.html

  • @budimanbujang81
    @budimanbujang81 Pƙed 3 lety

    what timing gun/light are u using in the video?

    • @sandybill1766
      @sandybill1766 Pƙed 3 lety

      Pretty sure it's a Hella if you still need this answered

  • @lukewarm7744
    @lukewarm7744 Pƙed rokem

    You failed to mention the compression stroke IE firing number one ? Hopefully you haven't confused to many of your subscribers.

  • @jppelser4511
    @jppelser4511 Pƙed 3 lety

    How does wastedspark timing sync work?

    • @Dagowly83
      @Dagowly83 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      It fires every rotation instead of every 2.

  • @BourneThisWay
    @BourneThisWay Pƙed 2 lety

    That wire he’s talking about is an in-line spark tester.

  • @2secondslater
    @2secondslater Pƙed 4 lety

    Pro tip: if you have coil on plug ignition, putting the timing light pickup around the coil wires will fire your timing light accurately, no need for an ignition lead.

    • @magnetic0314
      @magnetic0314 Pƙed 4 lety

      Sometimes this works but sometimes it won't. Often the timing gun is not sensitive enough to pick up the pulse from the reasonably small signal wire.

    • @nikczzowitz92
      @nikczzowitz92 Pƙed 4 lety

      This will give you a incorrect reading and is noted in the Haltech Quick Start Guides to not do this. Older Nissans commonly have a timing light service loop on the coil harness and many do this and get incorrect TDC numbers.

    • @haltechmatt
      @haltechmatt Pƙed 4 lety

      Jake Elliott - Not true. When you connect the timing light to the wire that goes into the coil it will show the timing at the beginning on the coils dwell cycle, but the spark doesn't happen until the end of the dwell (obviously) so the light will show the timing is advanced by a factor of whatever the coils dwell time is. Please follow the advice in the video and use a spark plug lead.