Wireless Shifting - SRAM GX AXS Review - Is it worth it?
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- We have passed this bike around, driven it across the PNW in terrible weather, ridden it through moondust, mud and snow in the name of this SRAM GX AXS Review. Without a doubt the SRAM GX AXS wireless upgrade kit has been one of the coolest bits of gear we’ve tested in 2021. No matter who’s on board or what we’re doing to the bike, the electronic SRAM GX AXS stuff just works. The durability, performance and simplicity of use all make this stuff easy to recommend, if you’re willing to drop the coin.
The GX AXS derailleur is just as water and dust proof as the higher end X01 and XX1 units, we don’t think it shifted any slower than those units and still held up to impacts and abuse thanks to SRAM’s Overload impact technology. As long as your derailleur hanger is straight, your chain isn’t bent and you’ve got all the teeth on your cassette in good shape, this system will shift without worry mile after mile. Battery life was pretty solid on this unit and we’re still running the original battery in the shifter. Cold temps and long road trips with the battery installed could affect battery range a bit. Since the system is motion activated, you may want to pull the battery out for long road trips to save all that battery power for shifting instead of bouncing down the highway. This of course presents the problem of losing your battery or forgetting it somewhere. When there’s nothing to forget, or discharge on a mechanical system, it could certainly be something to consider, but we’d risk it for how well this stuff works and how much easier it makes shifting and tuning.
There is a slight learning curve with the shift paddles, as they’re a bit different than mechanical versions, but we wouldn’t say it was anything major, or that we couldn’t get over. Plus, with the app you can customize which shift paddle does what, so you can easily set it up to work the way your brain thinks it should.
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Mountain biking is a passion pursuit for people of varying incomes and abilities. For many it’s a hobby, maybe even a lifestyle or even an addiction for some. For that reason, there will never be an agreeance on what exactly “budget” is, but when SRAM set out to create the GX AXS system, the goal was to bring World Cup-level athlete performance to a price point that more people could enjoy. It’s still far from cheap, but the fact you can have a top-tier wireless mountain bike shifting system for $600 is pretty damn cool. We are huge fans of the SRAM GX AXS wireless system and think it’s a very worthwhile upgrade if you’re looking to hop up your ride. Far from necessary, but absolutely welcome. Maintenance is reduced, performance is increased and so is ease of use, comfort, and the tidiness of your bike’s cockpit. We’re stoked on wireless shifter and hope to see a lot more mid-tier bikes coming spec’d with GX AXS in the future.
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Spending $600 on this kit gave me pause but after running it for nearly 4 months now I have zero regrets. I'll run this on all future bike builds.
That's great to hear. It is still a significant amount of cash to shell out, but we definitely love how it rides! Glad you feel it was worth it, thanks for sharing.
ditto dirt to road it just works!
I agree. I got a great deal on mine, just over $500. I was sick of cable stick and replacing cables and housings do I just did it. I won’t go back either.
I have a 2021 Trek Roscoe 6 and just upgraded to SRAM GX AXS.. Great Review and NEW Subscriber…. 🇺🇸
Lovin’ the intro. My SRAM XO1 drivetrain is pretty amazing. Don’t know if this is a must have upgrade, but if I was going to build a new bike from scratch… I’d definitely get the GX AXS kit.
Just got my xx1 and so excited to install it
Have it installed for about 3 months now, one of the best upgrades i’ve done so far on my rig 🤙🏼
Awesome glad to hear it. We definitely like it too!
I upgraded to this setup on my stumpy evo comp been using it since May w lots of crashes even some downhill and its still working perfectly well worth the money imo.
Great vids guys 🤘
Thanks for sharing and appreciate you watching. We'll keep making vids as long as you guys are watching and commenting.
@@TheLoamWolf awesome man 🤘
For it will come down to is if i can spend the 600 on something else to improve my bike/riding. This more of a nice to have for me so will stick to cables until i cant upgrade anything else, then will consider. Great video guys, one of the only channels that give honest reviewz and advice
Thanks so much Robert! One of our key foundational blocks here is that we want to know when people spend their hard-earned dollars on equipment or gear because of us, we know we've done our best and been as honest as possible. So thanks for noticing.
I have had two gx axs kits installed both on ebikes. One on a rise m10 and the other on the rail 9.7. I love the reduced clutter, reliable actuation on the controller every time, instant shifts and no worries about adjustments. Won’t go back, I plan to buy a third for a sentinel or ripmo whichever I can get first.
Thanks for sharing! Another convert. haha
Good review! I subscribed.
Awesome, thank you very much for the support! And, welcome!
Great info. Great advice
Do it! Best upgrade I've ever done
I really need to get one of these kits!
I rode a bike with upgraded Shimano XT drivetrain. I was amazed how much better it felt and shifted than my SLX components. Being they this is a Budget version of the ALX systems am I going to get the performance and solid feel of the Shimano XT system I used. I learned the hard way picking an SLX build…
I’m putting together a ‘21 Moots Mountaineer YBB, and the frame has no rear derailleur cable mounting.
My mechanic suggested the AXS upgrade and it’s being mounted now. Seemed like a worthwhile upgrade and will
help maintain a very clean look. Should be ready tomorrow can’t wait to ride it.
E-shifting on a Ti bike ? I have owned both ( but not at the same time) can only imagine the Gucci feel you will enjoy . Add a dropper p. & you will not be disappointed. I'm running a stigmata by SC now with OX1 1X12 ( I think) mostly on trails in central BC Purcell mtns. Ti might even be better... cheers to ya
It’s insanely good! Money well spent
Subscribed bud, great video
Thank you very much!
Awesome video.I am looking to install a SRAM GX AXS drivetrain. Can I mount my phone on my bike and use the SRAM AXS app to see what gear I am in? I really don't want to shell out another 400.00 for a Garmin. Thanks
I own both the GX AXS and XX1 AXS kits. I use the GX AXS on my 12 speed XTR setup (XTR cassette, XTR chain, AB oval chainring, XTR crank) and I feel it shifts better than an XTR shifter and derailleur. Much smoother and less effort (I always felt the XTR shifter/shifting was stiff) plus it makes the correct shift every time. I don’t have to worry about readjusting the shifting due to cable stretch, don’t have to replace shifter housing and cable, etc. I know folks will say that’s a small price to pay, but there’s definitely less maintenance to do with electronic shifting, plus there’s less cables on your bike. Do I think AXS is worth it? Heck yeah and I won’t go back to mechanical shifting.
Thanks for sharing
Many people complain about increased noise, weak clutch and the fact the DR flops around a bit (not cable outer to keep it pushed against the b-stop, I know this is kinda fixed with T-Type).
My SLX shifter also has the ability to shift from the non-thumb lever in case that wasn’t well known
I've been running the GX AXS kit on my enduro bike (2019 Megatower) essentially since it was released. I agree the setup is so freakin' easy and shifting quality under load is great. I'm running this with a 12 spd Shimano 10-51 cassette and chain. As a long-time Shimano user (this is literally the first time I've run SRAM since the Grip-Shift days 25+ years ago) I love the shifter. I quickly released the forward part of the paddle could be used like a Shimano trigger with the index finger, so I acclimated to it instantly.
So far, the only issue I've had is the B-tension screw seemed to back itself out as when I was cleaning and adjusted the bike recently, I noticed the upper pulley was shifting into the cassette. I reset the B screw and it's back to normal. Most of the riding the bike gets is at bike parks, so it gets a bit more abuse than regular trail riding.
I also added a Reverb AXS dropper post to complete the full-wireless conversion. Because... why not. I find the Reverb AXS isn't quite as responsive as the cable-actuated droppers on my other bikes (Bike Yoke and Manitou), but it's acceptable.
Removing batteries for long drives is somewhat annoying, but so far hasn't been an issue for me.
Thanks a lot for sharing and stoked to hear it.
You need to use blue thread lock on your B screw just like on every derailleur. Assuming you set it right the first time - a piece of cake with the new Sram b-tension guide included - you never need to touch it again. That also assumes you don’t change to a different cassette in the future which may also require a new chain length. As for taking out the battery on long trips. Huh? Why? What do you consider a long trip? Putting in or taking out a battery literally takes 15 seconds.
@@mrsmartypants_1 interesting. I've never had to apply loc-tite to a b tension screw in 30+ years of wrenching on bikes. First time I've ever had one back out like this.
@@ianfurqueron5850 It’s standard practice to use blue loctite on the b-screw adjustment exactly for the problem you have encountered (Sram or Shimano). It’s also standard practice to use it on many other bolts, clamps etc.. on your stem, the bottom bolts of forks and shocks etc… Few people do this, just like few people use a torque wrench. Inevitably all these people get bit on the trail or on a trip at some point in life.
@@mrsmartypants_1 I've used blue loctite on my bikes since... forever... and I work on my cars a lot, so I'm swimming in torque wrenches... but I've still never heard of needing to use it on a b-screw. I've also never had a b-screw go out of adjustment before. Over 30 years of riding... more bikes that I can remember, 90% assembled by me.
I am so regretted to not pull the trigger to buy one when I found it's on special on eBay months ago. I have been spending too much time fine tuning my 4.5 years old Giant with mixed brands drivetrain, given that I name myself a seasoned mechanic. Now they are all sold out! Until gearboxes and ebike motors come with gearboxes are common enough, I believe it's the best upgrade for most people.
Oh no! haha. now you know next time just jump on it. Thanks for sharing.
I have a hard enough time remembering to charge my GPS and my GOPRO. So probably stick with cables for now lol. Also just Subscribed from Bend :)
Thanks for joining, neighbor.
Just ordered a trek slash with gx axs. Was cheaper to buy the axs version than the Xt. Trying to decide whether to strip it off and and sell it and replace with a cable mech or give the axs a go 🤔.
i use a xx1 eagle since release day but i dont see the point for electric. its cool but eagle is super reliable for me, with a good quality cable i adjust it less than once a year. i see these as much more useful on 2x road bikes where adjustments are needed a lot more often.
Excellent. Subbed. Cheers
Thanks for the sub!
Can find it for $400 now online well worth it… my only complaint is the lever paddle itself.. won’t shift if it is too close to the brake lever body
It's time to replace the stock SX on my Levo Alloy. I'm thinking of this or a mechanical X01. Thoughts? I want good shifting with low maintenance.
Chenged my XTR for the GX AXS zero regrets also, works perfect with the XTR cassette. My battery runs for over 3 weeks riding every day.
Lucky you get to ride that much! haha
@@TheLoamWolf hah yeah Trip to work and after + some local trails between and in the weekend ofc ;)
Anyone else have issues in the cold? Got a 2 year old AXS that sometimes acts up in the cold (doesn’t shift when you press button sometimes). Bike sat outside in cold overnight, so it was a deep chill (30’s)
Still not going back to wired. It’s been so consistent over two years
I was very sceptical at first. But…..it’s a complete game changer in my opinion. If you have the money do it. I’ve always hated messing with gearing that is never right and jumping. This is direct with almost zero error and very easy to adjust.
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Hi. I have a NX eagle mech groupset. Does it fit on gx axs upgrade kit without buying the GX cassette?
how does it shift under load?
My bafang has a shift power cut off that momentarily cuts off the motor power during a shift to ease strain on the chain. How does the axs compensate for that?
Don't forget to take the battery off of the charger. 😊
Did you include the cable and housing when saying there was a 60g penalty?
We sure did.
It also works in XT cassette. FYI
Yeah, but then you miss out on the superior XD driver
I just picked up a 2022 Santa Cruz Bronson C “S” which came with the GX eagle group set.
I really wanted the Shimano XT build, but it’s another grand that unfortunately is out of my budget.
My new dilemma is going to be not giving in to the urge to upgrade my GX Eagle to AXS.
I’m happy with the cable driven GX as far as shift performance goes, I just don’t like the ergonomics of the shifter coming from Deore XT shifter which has the added benefit of a gear indicator, as well as the ability to push or pull the far lever for up shifts. I’ve become so accustomed to pulling up shifts it’s making it difficult to transition.
AXS allows you to use your index finger to "pull" (which actually pushes the paddle) to shift outboard to a higher gear so you won't have to completely re-learn your routine. Also, if you run a Garmin gps (which I do) you can add the battery life and shift indicators to your GPS screen.
You could pop a XT rear derailer on, it'll work with the rest of the 12 speed GX groupset
@@tippy35075 Ergh 🤮
I had already purchased the AXS X01 upgrade kit to go on my Transition Spur before the GX AXS upgrade kit was released. Bummer for me! I LOVE having AXS on my bike. Is it expensive? Yep. Is it necessary? Nope. Is it awesome? YEP! I will never go back to an analog cable setup. I'm currently waiting on my Reverb AXS dropper to arrive (3 months backordered) because, screw cables! 😁 FWIW, we put a cheaper, Archer Components electronic wireless shifter on my son's Scott Genius. It's not as clean looking as AXS but it works just as well at half the cost. 👍
How does the archer differ from this?
The AXS is a complete derailleur replacement whereas the Archer Components uses your stock derailleur and a short cable to achieve the same affect.
I'm thinking of going with the AXS 12spd with a 38t chain ring. I currently have a 9 spd Shmano with 44t chain. Do you think this is a worthy upgrade for gearing. I'm so sold on the electronic shifting.
You can already get this for 350ish on sale now for holidays. This will continue to come down.
I want this so bad! (saving my pennies)
When you installed the go did you have to lose any of the chain? Really looking to buy this for my specilized turbo levo.
No we didn't.
@@TheLoamWolf Awesome,thanks for the reply👌🏻
Guys I don’t know how to use the kit yet , I haven’t installed it yet , but when I was using it in my hand it shifted good , but when I leave it on the table and come back, it doesn shift until I press the small button on the derailleur , do I have to keep pushing the button mid ride?
Does the GX kit shift as well or under load as the XX/XO?
Your getting confused with eagle transmission. This video is talking about just AXS which shifts as well under load as a regular drivetrain
@@marcuscazzolato Not confused at all. Thats is exactly what I am asking: Does it shift under load the same?
I only got one battery with my kit
Are any "shop bought" or "direct sales" manufactures including a wireless shifter as standard equipment on a full suspension trail bike yet, 2021 or 2022?
There are brands that have AXS options available OE yes. Pivot, Trek Santa Cruz, Specialized to name a few.
Trek (and possibly others by this point) has also added a GX AXS model, which should be a little cheaper than similarly priced/specced bikes equipped with X01 AXS (which most brands use).
As someone who bashes derailleurs monthly, is this a good idea? I understand the overload clutch is supposed to prevent bent derailleurs, but how effective is it when you do bash it in the real world?
Dang Forest... That's a tough one and probably depends on what you're bashing it into... Are they glancing hits to downed logs, stumps? Or are they impacts to embedded rocks? That could make a difference in how well the Overload feature actually works, in reference to saving you from costly replacements. Could be a spendy proposition is sounds like, but it also could be a great move...It's only money right. haha.
@@TheLoamWolf haha, only money! Most of my derailleur strikes are pretty rough. Think Sedona bike topple over onto rocks from a few feet up.
As a beginner rider with a x01 axs RD, I had a bad crash and 2 wash out. All three times, I bashed my RD and it got all scratched up, but all 3 times my hanger got bent instead. The RD is strong as hell, I'm sure the GX AXS is even stronger. I was hesitant when I was thinking if I should buy the x01 axs, but best buy ever. Only wish the GX AXS was out then.
Thanks for sharing!!
Ha ha. We try to have fun.
Yeah I don’t know how to steer you there. On one hand I could see the overload working well on those big hits absorb the impact. On the other I’d hate for you to spend $600 and hate us for it. Ha ha. I suppose we could drop our bike off some 3-4 foot ledges to concrete and see how it does?
Any trouble with it at bike parks? I've had my GX AXS for a month and a half and have a specific issue every time I go to the Angel Fire. It will skip from gear 12 up to gear 11 on its own. All adjustments have been verified by a mechanic. When you look at the app on your phone it will show to be in gear 12. In order to go back to gear 12, you have to down shift the controller to gear 11(derailleur is already in gear 11 and won't move) , then upshift back to gear 12. Its super annoying and happens every run on jump lines or chunk. It will not do this around the local trails.
That is weird and we have not had it happen. Maybe there's a weird vortex at Angel Fire? Does your strava speed also spike to like 100mph? haha. We'll send an email to our SRAM contact and see if they've got anything here.
Interesting post. I am looking to install a GX AXS drivetrain. Does the app use bluetooth to talk to AXS system? Can I mount my phone on my bike and use this to tel me what gear I am on? Thanks
100% worth it. Wouldn't go back to regular shifting now
Thanks for sharing. Glad to hear you're a convert as well.
Agreed! Analog is in the past.
part of the fun of riding bikes has always (until now) been the affordability of it . i've been riding all sorts of bikes since 1950 and bought my first bike , a Schwinn cruiser , for $50 . i had that bike for twenty five years . Then mountain biking came along and in the eighties i bought a schwinn cimarron , which later became known as a Gravel bike 😂.
Then ten years later i bought an mtb for 1000 dollars . around the age of fifty i quit riding because of injuries and didn't start riding again until six years ago at the age of 69 when i was introduced to e bikes . i've had three e bikes in those six years totaling about 8000 €.
Now the industry is trying to seduce riders into buying a SINGLE component that cost 12 times what my old schwinn cost and one fourth what my new e MTB cost .
At 75 , i still love riding but may have to take out a second mortgage on my house if i want to ' up grade ' to something that looks cool because a cable is no longer cluttering my cockpit ??? fukin ridiculous ! 🤯
Haha. Thanks for the awesome story and so cool to see your bike riding history. We don't disagree with your statement by any means, and even said in the video, if we had our current finances to weigh and were considering buying this at retail would it be wise for our budget? Probably not.
BUT, let's ask a question: Take inflation out of it...did your 1950's Schwinn have as much technology inside it as this derailleur and Bluetooth Controller?
It is cool to see how we've evolved ,now let's just hope the boom that follows the tech revolution is the budget revolution! haha
You are my Hero! I am 51 years old and hope to ride as long as you do/did. I remember my first bicycle in the late 70s, a Huffy, and I dont think it was more than $70 new. I rode that bike for a good 4 years beeating the hell out it before it had tk be retired due to wear and tear. I remembered how much I love bicycles but kinda stopped riding then once I got my driver's license.
Then fast forward to 1993, I got out of the Army after a 4 year Enlistment at 22, and first thing I bought was a nice Giant Bicycle with Full XT and fully rigid, and that thing was expensive at $600! And it was $950 with Rock Shox fork. The was a lot of money in 1993 as my Volkswagon Rabbit was only $3000.
It does suck that Mountain Biking is so expensive now whee it is now considered an Elitist Sport. A standard cabled GX shifter and der. is already exoensive at $200; Then now they are asking us to pay $400 more for "E" version of this GX set up
On the flip side though, all Hobbies are expensive these days, and $400 is not that much in the big picture if this thing gives us years of enjoyment. Also, the price of a decent New Car these days is about $30k, and a decent mtn bike starts at $3k. So in the big picture Mountain Bikes have not really gone up. At the time I bought that decent $1000 Mtn Bike, a mew car was going for about $12,000.
AXS and other Blingy Bike parts are more for the Hobbyists like me, and not for the Practical People. I myself have not taken the jump into AXS yet, but have an AXS XX1 on hand, but no real hurry to install it because all my Cabled Derailleurs currently work just fine. However, I am looking forward to that day that I install that AXS "upgrade" and try her out.
Well shit... I did *not* need to see this video this morning. My apologies to my bank account.
Haha awesome!
SRAM AXS: Separating me from my money since August 2020!
is this now an e-bike only channel? 😜 #pedalmoredrew
Haha Come on man! We just did 4 videos on Amish bikes. GT, Norco, Devinci and that Bronson video too. I need some e-recovery! haha
"nice to have" upgrade for a lot of money
Yep, it worths a lot
I just got a new bike that came equipped with an SX drive train, is this compatible?
Yes it is compatible with all parts across the eagle range
Yes it is.
Bike makers should make frames without cable and housing ports and stops for that cleaner look to pair with wireless drivetrains.
Interestingly, my Transition Spur comes with the brake cable routed externally. I've had AXS installed since new and have been toying with the idea of using the old shifter/dropper cable routing for the rear brake line. 🤔
I already have GX Eagle. Wouldn’t make sense to spend $600 for the same thing but wireless.
You wouldn't have to. You could buy the Controller and Derailleur for less and be set.
@@TheLoamWolf I live in Canada and the derailleur, battery and controller kit costs $682USD
@@GokkunGuru Yeah, that's a big no. haha
I did this exact swap. Although it shares the GX name and build components the shift is superior - precise and fast, way more than a cabled derailleur in my opinion/experience. I do think vendors should consider putting this as standard on all bikes over a price threshold as it would make little difference to a bike over 7k for instance, already a massive amount of money
Na Not rly. I still use IT but after one Crash already Bent and im glad i Bent IT Back pretty good. But i think what i Miss is when U already have No cable why U cant microadjust every cog ? Makes No Sense especially If U Run different Combos of Cassette and Chain. Lg
I do hope he stops banging his derailleur cause he's messing up his hangar everytime he does that lol
My only concern is that proprietary battery. If it disappears then your in deep shnit. Plus 60 extra grams on an all carbon bike is a waste for efficiency freaks like me.
Amazon has the kit for $528 😬
So on your analog bike you will have to charge shifter before you hit a ride as opposed to do nothing and will cost you $600 😂😂😅 this may make sense for ebikes as long as it is wired to main battery
"It's not our place to say if it's a good value or if the price is reasonable... If we had to shell out $600 of our own money to buy this, would we do it? Frankly I don't know. Provably not, because $600 is a lot of money.
So... no it is not good value and the price is not reasonable.
"That being said, if you've got the $600 and you want to upgrade to a budget system, no qualms about recommending this kit. It is worthwhile. It gives you performance and reliability... It's awesome from a performance standpoint."
So... yes it is good value and the price is reasonable.
Which is it?
We never said it's not a good value or that the price isn't reasonable. You quoted us verbatim, "Not our place to say if it's a good value," because some people don't have $600 to spend on an entire bike. We've learned that no matter what we think is a good value or not, others will disagree, since value and affordability are subjective.
To rephrase our summary and answer your question of "Which is it" -GX AXS is a very reliable, and great performing unit that is an awesome upgrade. IF spending $600 on a controller and derailleur is in your budget, then we would recommend this product.
Adjusting cable is one of the simplest things to do, so $500 will save me that? 😂😂
"Still shifts" lol few kicks sand and water on a derailleur are nothing compared to what really have to bear on the trails.. that systems (rear derailleur) is obsolete and is not an innovation, simply is a technology taken from road bikes to mtb but has nothing to do with transmissions specifically developed to be conceived to be used on harsh conditions and low/zero maintenance... the future on off-road bikes must be the gearbox derailleurs, mechanic or electronic/mechanic are obsolete.
The Eagle AXS derailleur is HIGHLY PRONE TO DAMAGE. It sticks out too far and if you set your bike on the ground it may pivot on the derailleur and damage the pins and rivets which ruins the shifting quality. I had this happen and ZERO help from SRAM after 2 rides!!!! No mention of the axle mounted derailleur guard in this video @ 6'52''
Yeah your prolly a lot happier without all that cable weight. Lol
Edit: oh yeah lighter wallet to man your fast broooooooooooooo
Guessing you were so excited about your sick burn that you didn't realize it's actually heavier than the cabled version by 60 grams, we said it a few times...but you got us good! 😂😂
Wait a second... Did you just out yourself as the one Thumbs Down guy!?
@@TheLoamWolf even mor reason to NOT go there so you made my argument for me abd you took it personal hahaha
@David Findley If we took every funny guy's comment personally, chances are we wouldn't be making videos for people like you to comment on. Why don't you read all the other comments on this page, from people who paid for these components and let us know the percentage of people who are more than stoked.
If you really think the only benefit of investing in bike components is weight savings, then it's a lost cause. But it's still fun seeing people's logic play out. 😘
@@TheLoamWolf that's good that you don't wear your emotions on your sleeve. Whith all the info ive hotten from this and comments i would never even consider buying a wireless setup this is good because i was considering a wireless seriously. Not now so thanks guys and you haters well nothing i can say positive bout you.
Dog where can I ride me ebike in bend? Such haters out there!
Haha. Such an open-minded community where love wins! BLM land is about your best bet without getting too many vigilante lectures and dirty looks.
Ride ‘em on the motorbike trails where they belong
its a shame this turned into an ebike channel
Guessing you missed the 2-day old Deviate Cycles video? Last week's GT Force video, the Santa Cruz Bronson video, Norco Range video? Maybe the pain and tears from all the evil eBikes blurred your vision? Having fun isn't a shame, and eBikes are fun!
Was watching till I noticed the bike was a ebike. Immediately turned it off. Adios
Before you leave...Can you point to where the eBike hurt you and share why it didn't hurt you until you realized it was an eBike? 😂
@@TheLoamWolf The anti ebike thing is odd, seems to be almost exclusively a USA thing..🤷
@@TheLoamWolf because I have zero interest seeing a ebike on my screen. I have made a personal decision to boycott anything featuring, reviewing, or discussing ebikes.
@@MrDanjacs if I wanted a motor on two wheels, I would buy a dirt bike. That’s why.
@@TheLoamWolf you got 38 seconds out of me. I hope it at least counted as a view for ya