Thank you - watched this and snuck out and did mine just before it went dark ! I’ve only just bought my old 35 and I couldn’t feel the 2nd stage at all .. measured it after your video and it was miles out! So big thanks from England.
fantastic! holy hell, there’s so much misinformation on the forums. everyone had me thinking my clutch was bad but all i needed was pedal adjustment. thanks, brother!
Thank you! My Uncle's tractor has been doing this for years and none of us have ever known the fix until now. looking forward to having the pto clutch back.
Great video and very informative. Only thing i would mention is that, according to my manual the 3/8 measurement is from the bottom of the footpeg (where it clacks up against), not the end of the pedal. By my measurements 3/8 there is about 1/2 at the pedal.
Well all I can say is of you were in Australia anywhere, I'd gladly shout you a beer! For not even the duration of thos video, fixed my PTO grinding and saved me a never emding head ache. Ups to you and this video, all the very best to you and your family and thanks so much for sharing your knowledge
Man, Australia is on my bucket list for sure! My aunt lived there for a few years and said nothing but wonderful things about it. Glad you're all fixed up.
Great work Dad ! hope folks realize they are taking up the slack lost to wear, and to really be sure to leave that little bit of slack otherwise they will be burning life off of their clutch which is definitely no good.
Amazing! I'm sure that's the problem with my 35, you have to stand on the pedal to get the PTO into gear and even then it grinds, I'll be trying this tomorrow!
Brilliant Video Friend, My TO-30 had needed for decades !! ( SMALL MOVEMENT MEANS BIG CHANGES ) Scratching Aline on both pin and clamp gives good idea on how much you move
Great walk thourth buddy. I know how to do this as my brother has the 35 Massey Ferguson with the Perkins 152 a in it. We are having problems with the pump strangler jumping and staying in th off postion we where thinking about replacement pump. But then the engine gave up in his Hynda Santafe v6. ✌👍
Good short presentation Now asking x a different issue: Can you help me telling me Where the BRAKE LOCKING LEVER 181149M1 goes installed ? I lost the image ! Wait x your kind response
Send me an email to modernhemingway@gmail.com and I can send you a picture. It goes on the left brake pedal next to where are those teeth are that lock it in place.
Hey farm dad. My 48 fergy, find it hard to tighten 11/16 bolt. Also the square piece where you inserted screw driver. Should it feel springy, when turning to stop play in clutch?
My MF-20 (3 cylinder perkins diesel) is just barely able to creep along now even though the engine and hydraulics are running fine. I'm not sure if I just need to adjust the clutch or if I have a worn pressure plate. Is there anyway to tell between one or the other? Thanks.
You were fortunate to get away with adjusting the clutch pedal only. Clutch pedal adjusting gives correct clutch throw and throw out bearing clearance. As the main clutch wears the clearance between the Primary and the Secondary Pressure Plate increases. That means that the clutch pedal reaches the floor before the PTO clutch releases. Adjust this by 3 setscrews in the Primary pressure plate. WITH ENGINE STOPPED, remove bottom cover plate below the CLUTCH and adjust each setsrew in turn. Turn engine over by hand to get each setscrew at the bottom. On a Massey Ferguson 35 the clearance is 88-92 thousandths of an inch. On a Massey Ferguson 65 the clearance is78-82 thousandths of an inch. Hope this helps.
Not near my tractor to test pedal slop but I can't get my pto into Engine PTO mode without turning the engine off. What causes this? Is it possible I only have a single clutch model?
Hello great video, really informative. Im looking to buy a 1967 Massey Ferguson 135 Perkins diesel and while test driving it it grinds when engaging the engine pto you have to basically force it in and when you try to engage the ground pto it grinds and won't engage. Would adjusting the clutch aslo help with this? Thanks in advance for any help.
@@FarmDad thank you very much. The guy selling it said he was going to adjust the clutch but I was worrying it could be something else. You have a new subscriber 👍
What if that doesn’t fix the problem? I have the same issue as everyone else. Had 2” or so of slop. Adjusted to about 1/2” and still doing the same thing.
Mine did the same thing. I loosened off the pedal and tried to move the shaft as described. It felt kind of springy and didn't really want to move in any meaningful way. When I tightened the pedal back on to the shaft the clutch isn't engaged at all and the pedal just falls to the floor. Any idea what might have happened?
Thank you - watched this and snuck out and did mine just before it went dark ! I’ve only just bought my old 35 and I couldn’t feel the 2nd stage at all .. measured it after your video and it was miles out! So big thanks from England.
@@Anderzander Glad you found it helpful! From Montana USA
Great video of the basics of clutch adjustment on the older MF models. Our 1968 MF 165 is good to go now. Thanks brother!
Most welcome! That's a good ol tractor you got.
fantastic! holy hell, there’s so much misinformation on the forums. everyone had me thinking my clutch was bad but all i needed was pedal adjustment. thanks, brother!
Glad this helped and that it was all that's wrong with your tractor!
Thank you! My Uncle's tractor has been doing this for years and none of us have ever known the fix until now. looking forward to having the pto clutch back.
Awesome. Hope it gets you all fixed up
Great video and very informative.
Only thing i would mention is that, according to my manual the 3/8 measurement is from the bottom of the footpeg (where it clacks up against), not the end of the pedal.
By my measurements 3/8 there is about 1/2 at the pedal.
@@iamaparanoidandroid1 good info
Well all I can say is of you were in Australia anywhere, I'd gladly shout you a beer! For not even the duration of thos video, fixed my PTO grinding and saved me a never emding head ache. Ups to you and this video, all the very best to you and your family and thanks so much for sharing your knowledge
Man, Australia is on my bucket list for sure! My aunt lived there for a few years and said nothing but wonderful things about it. Glad you're all fixed up.
@@FarmDad keep awesome
I have a 1964 TO35
I love this little tractor. Plows,tills,discs,mows.
Great machine
Great work Dad ! hope folks realize they are taking up the slack lost to wear, and to really be sure to leave that little bit of slack otherwise they will be burning life off of their clutch which is definitely no good.
could u please write that again in an way a non native speaker could understand it i have some problems to understand it
Any know how near Cayuga Ontario?
@@christian9125abd- Do not adjust the mechanism too tightly. Pardon delay in response.
@@wearethe80s4sure- There must be, keep looking 👍
@@TheCanadianBubba i did it so that 1- 1.5cm of free way are left
Amazing! I'm sure that's the problem with my 35, you have to stand on the pedal to get the PTO into gear and even then it grinds, I'll be trying this tomorrow!
Hope you get all fixed up.
Same here. Fingers crossed.
Thank you! Mines been grinding for several years. This did the trick. Glad i found your video 🤠
Glad to hear this helped fix you up.
The hub is working on my Hyundai. I was drawn in my searching to watch this vid and feel we've found the key. Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
Absolute Gold .. Took me longer to add this comment then make the adjustment ... No more Grind
Awesome! Love it when easy fixes make these old tractors worlds better.
You are my HERO. THANK YOU. For this video.
Glad it helped! Thanks!
Just adjusted mine after watching this video, thanks Dad.
Fantastic
Thank you! I have the exact same problem on my massey. Much appreciated!
Most welcome
Brilliant Video Friend, My TO-30 had needed for decades !! ( SMALL MOVEMENT MEANS BIG CHANGES ) Scratching Aline on both pin and clamp gives good idea on how much you move
Good idea.
@@FarmDad thank you friend, we’re all in it together
@@mickeymantle46 exactly
Thank you. As I suspected my clutch was just out of adjustment. Thought I might have to tear it apart. Not Now Thanks very much.
It's always a relief when something just needs adjusted.
Definitely going to try this as soon as I get home!
Let us know your results!
Hey there my man you just helped me solve my pto grinding problem on my Massey 50.Thanks
Glad to hear it!
Great walk thourth buddy. I know how to do this as my brother has the 35 Massey Ferguson with the Perkins 152 a in it. We are having problems with the pump strangler jumping and staying in th off postion we where thinking about replacement pump. But then the engine gave up in his Hynda Santafe v6. ✌👍
There's always something to fix, isn't there.
The clutch pedal on my massey ferguson 135 x is very hard when pressing it down .what might be the problem?
my pto not work I try to engage him and is not work ?? what s a problem tank you for your help .masey ferguson 35 year 1964 and the shaf not turn
This worked! Thanks!
Welcome!
Good short presentation
Now asking x a different issue: Can you help me telling me Where the BRAKE LOCKING LEVER 181149M1 goes installed ?
I lost the image !
Wait x your kind response
Send me an email to modernhemingway@gmail.com and I can send you a picture. It goes on the left brake pedal next to where are those teeth are that lock it in place.
Hey farm dad. My 48 fergy, find it hard to tighten 11/16 bolt. Also the square piece where you inserted screw driver. Should it feel springy, when turning to stop play in clutch?
Got her done, working again. Just put vice grips on bottom nut and put some muscle into top bolt. Yippee
Glad you got her fixed up! Sorry I was slow to see your question.
My MF-20 (3 cylinder perkins diesel) is just barely able to creep along now even though the engine and hydraulics are running fine. I'm not sure if I just need to adjust the clutch or if I have a worn pressure plate. Is there anyway to tell between one or the other? Thanks.
Very good. I'm going to try that today.
Hope it fixes your problem
@@FarmDad it sure did. Thank u.
You were fortunate to get away with adjusting the clutch pedal only. Clutch pedal adjusting gives correct clutch throw and throw out bearing clearance. As the main clutch wears the clearance between the Primary and the Secondary Pressure Plate increases. That means that the clutch pedal reaches the floor before the PTO clutch releases. Adjust this by 3 setscrews in the Primary pressure plate. WITH ENGINE STOPPED, remove bottom cover plate below the CLUTCH and adjust each setsrew in turn. Turn engine over by hand to get each setscrew at the bottom. On a Massey Ferguson 35 the clearance is 88-92 thousandths of an inch. On a Massey Ferguson 65 the clearance is78-82 thousandths of an inch. Hope this helps.
MF 135 grinds when I try to engage pto. Can’t engage/disengage without killing the engine. Hope this helps.
Let us know! Good luck!
@@FarmDad worked like a charm
@@eichmann5902 great!
Hoping my mf35 is a 2 stage clutch. The idea of my brushhog pushing me while the clutch is in sound crazy.
I have one on my Ferguson Tea-30. It works.
Great video, thanks
Most welcome!
Not near my tractor to test pedal slop but I can't get my pto into Engine PTO mode without turning the engine off. What causes this? Is it possible I only have a single clutch model?
Good description. Thanks
Glad to hear, thanks!
Good stuff. Thanks
Hello great video, really informative. Im looking to buy a 1967 Massey Ferguson 135 Perkins diesel and while test driving it it grinds when engaging the engine pto you have to basically force it in and when you try to engage the ground pto it grinds and won't engage. Would adjusting the clutch aslo help with this? Thanks in advance for any help.
Yes, I think this is likely to help. Those are good tractors.
@@FarmDad thank you very much. The guy selling it said he was going to adjust the clutch but I was worrying it could be something else. You have a new subscriber 👍
What if that doesn’t fix the problem? I have the same issue as everyone else. Had 2” or so of slop. Adjusted to about 1/2” and still doing the same thing.
I'd probably suspect the clutch.
Thanks dude 🤙🏻
Welcome 👊
Done mine and now the pedal just fell down no free play?
I'm not sure that I understand. Perhaps you adjusted it too far?
Mine did the same thing. I loosened off the pedal and tried to move the shaft as described. It felt kind of springy and didn't really want to move in any meaningful way. When I tightened the pedal back on to the shaft the clutch isn't engaged at all and the pedal just falls to the floor.
Any idea what might have happened?
I have a 35 that grinds the gears trying to engage with the clutch down from stationary. Could this be my issue?
Yes, could be.
we are getting a 135. to put it into gear you have to literally stand on the pedal. any advice?
I'm sorry I have not encountered this. No advice, but there's definitely something wrong.
@@FarmDad next time I get a chance, I'll follow the method shown in the video
My tractor also has 2-3 inches play in the clutch paddle, is it ok? 🧐 ori need to fixed it
People can get away with it so long as the clutches are fully engaging, but it's an easy fix and worth doing.
at the mf 135 i have the same problem it should be solved like this, right?
Yes, almost exactly the same tractor
@@FarmDad okay thx
@@FarmDad has worked thx alot now we are able to get in pto without taking engine off
Great but you didn't adjust the pto, only the transmmisson clutch.
That's a 2 stage clutch. By adjusting the Freeplay on that pedal, it adjusts the actuation of both stages, one being transmission, other being pto.
Can't see how you adjust the caluch . You should be more pacific