This is one of a few stories about what happened when Chopin and Liszt met. How accurate I can't say, but it was from living memory of their lifetimes: One evening, while assembled in a salon, Liszt played one of Chopin’s nocturnes, to which he took the liberty of adding some embellishments. Chopin’s delicate intellectual face, which still bore the traces of recent illness, looked disturbed; at last he could not control himself any longer, he said, “I beg you, my dear friend, when you do me the honor of playing my compositions, to play them as they are written or else not at all.” “Play it yourself then,” said Liszt, rising from the piano, rather piqued. “With pleasure,” answered Chopin. At that moment a moth fell into the lamp and extinguished it. They were going to light it again when Chopin cried, “No, put out all the lamps, the moonlight is quite enough.” Then he began to improvise and played for nearly an hour. And what an improvisation it was! Description would be impossible, for the feelings awakened by Chopin’s magic fingers are not transferable into words. When he left the piano his audience were in tears; Liszt was deeply affected, and said to Chopin, as he embraced him, “Yes, my friend, you were right; works like yours ought not to be meddled with; other people’s alterations only spoil them. You are a true poet.” “Oh, it is nothing,” returned Chopin, gaily, “We have each our own style.” (Nowakowski, in Karasowski, Semptember 1874)
My Great Great Great Great grandfather was there an in he confirms this story. It was passed down never changed. He also said that sometime Chopin would only shave one side of his face the side that faces the crowd for his own pleasure of knowing that know knew except him. He got off on doing stuff like that.
I never read about that anywhere in a biography, but that is very possible. He would improvise for hours all the time, in fact it was how he usually performed for people at soirees, rather than playing his own compositions. He also liked playing in the dark.
A Man Has No Name like I said this piece was private for Chopin, and side note, Chopin actually didn't play that much for others because he was known for his brilliant playing. ;)
He was playing in salons and to royalty. In those times you could play for royalty but not for money, you could go on a walk with them and be seen with them which elevated your status.
Ludwig Van Beethoven And Chopin like Anakin was also tempted by a brunette! But Herr Ludwig, what is your opinion of his music? Not quite as majestic as yours. Though that heroic Polonaise may be something you might like.
fun fact: Liszt would purposefully tune the piano wrongly and play aggressively so the strings would snap and he would improvise around the broken strings
@@hannahquintua BROOO it's the second time I read this. NO. Chopin wasn't an anti-semite. He had a trouble with 2 jews and wrote a letter talking bad things about them. Check your fonts man.
Hahaha Chopin sitting down and playing like that in front of everybody and mocking Liszt. Chopin who did 5 concerts in his life and hated to be the centre of attention.
@CleXz I slowed down the video to see the first notes Left hand is alright Right hand seems to change the notes a little And I don't think someone who fakes piano playing has.. rather flashy fingers I tried playing like that and nope. He's an experienced pianist
Serene Siew HM when chopin left poland he kind of left for what would be a better start. poland was under alot of pressure at the time. so a famous young composer who could put poland on the map like beethoven and mozart did vienna, sort of speaking was knowest by a number of wealthy and political leaders. you can imagine they were not all to happy. and i also belive poland was in a conflict with russia. so its not surprising people being angry chopin ran off in their minds.
A beautiful, sensitive, Polish actor who portrays Chopin and his soul and Polish one so well. This is one of the best clips from the movie. I have watched the full movie on YT many times.
@@abubakrshoaliev2775 it is "Chopin Desire for Love" on CD, DVD? A Translated title?? Most probably the same Full! Polish movie, as on YT in English with Spanish subtitles Under "Chopin, un amor imposible". 2002 There is also a British movie on Chopin, 1991?, CD? Have not seen it, just clips on YT. With Hugh Grant, Judy Davis. Hope it helps.
@@abubakrshoaliev2775 hello Abubakr again. if you like Chopin like I do, there are 2 great pianists on YT playing the beautiful Impromptu (Fantasie) after which one movie was named. Dmitry Shishkin and the lovely, elegant Anastasia Huppmann (russian-austrian).
Chopin could be really temperamental - how could one write dramatic pieces as, say, his Prélude op. 28 no. 22 and not be? Several of his Parisian experienced this side of Chopin when receiving education in piano-playing from him. As I remember it, occasionally, when in difficult mood, he would raise his voice, close to shouting, and slam his hand in the table, breaking his goose-feather pen - those were referred to as 'stormy lessons'. But he was also was jocular, and good at impersonating, and in family settings (with George sand and children), he liked to rehearse and perform puppet-theater.
Liszt was always trying to out do the piano and out do music. His whole effort was to transcend both. Chopin was in love with music, in love with the piano. He was the piano. Even Liszt, being the better pianist, had to admit that Chopin was the better musician and composer.
The Hungarian Rhapsody is a work straight from the muse herself. They had very different styles but to call one better the other? I think they are beyond the threshold of mere competition.
Some scenes in the movie show Chopin leaving and 'saying good by' to his homeland - Poland (war, Russian soldier destroying the piano, carriage, escape, etc). During his trip-escape to France through Stuttgart he wrote "Stuttgard's Diary" in which he discribes his state of mind: thoughts and feelings, about his homeland and about the fall of the November's Uprising against Russian occupier). In the movie you can see also the weeping willow trees which are very characteristic to Poland and represent mourning. Chopin was born in 1810 in Zelazowa Wola, near of Warsaw, and left Poland when was 20 years old. Never seen his homeland again. Died in 1849 in Paris at the age of 39 years old (probably for tuberculosis). This is the reason why in his music is so much longing (homesickness), sadness and nostalgia. It is good to know the context (bigger picture) of his feelings and by what he was driven while creating his materpices. Since 1772 up to 1918 Poland was wipped off of the Europe's map and then split for nearly 150 years between Prusia, Russia, Habsburg's Empire and Austro-Hungerian Empire. Polish people where not allowed to speak their own language even at home what could yield in sending to Siberia. Chopin's Polish name is Szopen. I hope this information will help you better understand and feel Szopen/Chopin's music.
A lovely friend of ours will turn 99 in December and being both Polish and a former classical pianist, adores Chopin. Although Alzheimer's is beginning to take her mind, when we visit she always remembers to request Chopin. So my son, who plays in a manner similar to Chopin and Debussy, obliged by learning several of Chopin's works. He even went as far as "completing" Chopin's posthumous Waltz in A minor. It never fails to bring a smile to her sweetly weathered face and a peaceful spirit to her home. I am convinced all great music is played from the heart, and is felt as well as heard.
just a name no, thats not what the story is at all. Chopin actually had a lot of works that he wrote down, never performed, and importnalty never published as he had very high standards for himself and viewed those works as sub-par. After his death most of these works were discovered as even tho chopin didnt not like them, he also couldnt bring himself to get rid of them and they were the published as op.posth. The a minor waltz was one of these pieces
@Lisztian why, they surely can. youve just started one- lisztians for liszt fans. the only thing we need to do now is brainstorm fandom names for other classical composers
my granny was a classical pianist. she was a specialist in Chopin and Rachmaninoff and Lizst. I'm a heavy metal singer. I dont know how to play the piano, but I love deeply classical music... this makes me cry. my favorites are Villa-Lobos, Rachmaninoff, Beethoven, Chopin and Lizst... I always say to my friends that heavy metal and hard rock are almost classical music with heavy guitars. now I'm thinking 'bout learning to play the cello, even though I'm a old guy with 39 years old... thanx for uploading this beautiful video! wish you the best! May God bless you and everyone who's watching and commenting this . I love you all
I can't understand why so many complain that actor playing Chopin is not exactly like him. Excuse me, what??? First of all, the film was made in Poland with polish actors. Do you think, that there are hundreds actors there, who look like Chopin? Piotr Adamczyk, who played this role is perfect , because he has delicate, elegant, subtle and a liitle bit neurotic face, exactly like Chopin. He doesn't have to look exactly like him, it's a matter of impression that he make and Adamczyk made it really good. I believed him , believed in his story. It's not Brad Pitt. :)))) And very good.....
haha, and Liszt was not polish he was hungarian. Beside the actor did not need to be polish to portray Chopin. As I am sure you know, Frédéric was a polish citizen but biologically half French from his French father who came from the French region of Lorraine to Poland to teach French in a boarding school. But, to be perfectly honest, i think the actors feel historically accurate, i am especially pleased with the portray of Liszt's character and demeanor it's quite close to what i imagined. Also would you be annoyed to know that Chopin wrote his handwritten letters to his father in French and not in Polish (he would use polish for his other relatives) ? Chopin was a French-Pole. The son of an immigrant French father.
goognam goognws Chopin, while he might have been biologically half French his soul was fully Polish. He wrote Polonaises and always said of himself as a Pole.
@@mateuszloniewski might have been, ?! You are funny there, he WAS biologicaly half-french. I know the french region his grandparents and his father lived in. And he always wrote his correspondance to his father in French. His father almost certainly always talked to Frédéric in French so that he acquired the language. He wanted his soul to be Polish, but there is a difference between what one wants and what one is. Most likely he wasn't interested in his father's family because of their modest origins but would rather spend time with high society regardless of nationality.
@@goognamgoognw6637 Excuse me, he also was born in Żelazowa Wola and spent his childhood, teenage years and twenties there. He finished a polish highschool and university. He spoke polish, he wrote letters in polish and he composed his pieces in a polish spirit, using polish national dances. Don't come to me with the audacity to accuse Chopin of not being a polish composer, I beg of you.
Nunca ha habido un Compositor ,de esta Calidad y tan Romántico , del Piano ..como Frederic Chopen . Tan Prolífica su Obra ..Sus Estudios como el Revolucionario ...so tan hermosos , y con cierto grado de Dificultad que se los dedicó al Gran Franz Liszt ...Preludios , Nocturnos , Mazurcas , Squerzos , Baladas , Conciertos a mi en lo particular me encanta el 2° . Y sus Valses . Murió tan joven , por la Tuberculosis ..que no me explico cómo pudo componer tanto , estando enfermo . Polonia ha dado al Mundo , Científicos como Madame Curie , Chopin , y el Santo.Juan Pablo II , Papa de la Iglesia Católica ..perdón por extenderme ...amo a esa Nación ..Gracias por subir ese pequeño corto de su Película .🎹🎼🎶🎵👏👏👏👏👏💖💞😘😘😘
I cannot even comprehend Chopin and Liszt being in the same room--the two greatest pianists that ever lived! But I always felt that Chopin sought to bring out the 'soul' of the piano, whereas Liszt wanted to compose the most technically 'unplayable ' pieces, which sacrificed the melodic line.
I presume you're not a pianist, because you're talking out of your a**. Liszt is pianistically very comfortable, often "easier" to play than Chopin. Liszt's octaves and sequences of diminished chords aren't that hard, compared to Chopin's more intricate passages. Their styles of composing are very different though, so it's useless to compare in any aspect. I wouldn't say either of them "sacrificed the melodic line", they just embellish and texture differently. I think composers like Schumann or Brahms are usually way closer to "unplayable" than Liszt. They didn't really perform their works on the piano like Liszt did, and you can really tell the difference when you've played a dozen works from each one.
You obviously have not listened to enough Liszt...there are sections of his second piano concerto and many of his later pieces that have the most beautiful melodic content ever written for piano.
I remind you that Carl Czerny was a teacher of Liszt and Thalberg, was a teacher of those who were masters of Rubinstein, Rachmaninov, Moszkowski, Barenboim and many more! From my point of view Czerny was more virtuous than Liszt and Chopin a clear example of this is the Op.365 School of Virtuoso, Op.400 School of Prelude and Fugue, Op.692 24 Grand Etudes, Op. 756 25 Great etudes
I humbly disagree. In my opinion, Liszt is actually more direct and passionate towards the feeling, or the soul, while Chopin's works are more melodic, but more indirect. In term of difficulty......Actually, I would say Chopin's works are on average slightly harder than Liszt's...
Upon further review I have to repeat and re-confirm even more so that these two performances are amoungst the best interpretations I have ever heard by any pianists of these two Chopin works. The REVOLUTIONARY played by the LISZT actor and the Polonaise played by the Chopin actor have some of the most interesting dynamics, accents and phrasing I have ever heard in performance of these pieces. I wonder who decided on these interpretations....absolutely great
Chopin interpretaba el piano como si acariciaba las teclas. Es como se aprecia el valor de un instrumento musical y su armonía musical. Valiosísimo. Gracias.
In my imagination, Chopin only plays in complete darkness in a room that is lit, perhaps, only by a single candle. He would not take off his gloves when he plays and there would be no more than 20 people in attendance.
Andrew Marcus - I assume you're not a pianist because wearing gloves while playing (well) is darned near impossible. Playing while blindfolded is quite doable, but while wearing gloves, no. In college, however, the piano practice rooms were sometimes cold, so I wore fingerless gloves. Even those were cumbersome.
@@Andrea-xs4ny the original comment got some details right though. Chopin sometimes played in the dark, and he preferred to play in a salon or to a group of his close friends (usually less than 20 or even less than 10) because he thought it was far more intimate. For the gloves part? Ehh, I'm not sure about that.
@@cinnamonsteakhaus9013 Hi, there. I agree with you 100% and didn't contradict any of what you said. It was only the wearing of the gloves while playing piano that is not do-able.
Haber imaginado y transmitido la emoción a través del tiempo y el espacio por la sensibilidad de Liszt y Chopin,dejan una huella indeleble en el alma de quien la escuche por todos los tiempos.
Y eso no es del todo posible cuando hay un compositor como Franz Liszt. La técnica pianística de Liszt por sí sola estaba muy por delante de la de Chopin, por no hablar de las habilidades de orquestación.
@@DefinitelyNotFelis. Liszt era mejor pianista, pero Chopin era mejor compositor. Chopin también sufría de pobre salud casi toda su vida y solo pesaba 90 libras. Probablemente no tenía la energía para tocar tantos conciertos como Liszt. Pero Chopin era probablemente el mejor compositor de la historia junto con Mozart y Beethoven
Hermosa película, triste la vida de mi compositor favorito. Bellas locaciones. No sabía que la condesa Rothschild , patrocinó grandes músicos de la época. Bravo!!! Fascinante película
Yo adoro a Chopin,su sensibilidad con el piano me conmueve y me llega al alma desde siempre. Para mí, siempre será el mejor. Muchas gracias por compartir con nosotros ésta pieza de la película,me gustaría poder verla entera. Si alguien me puede informar del título,me haría un gran favor,y si la pudiera encontrar, sería un gran regalo. Adoro a Chopin desde que tenía siete años, ahora tengo 61. Mil gracias.🎼🎶❤💕👏👏👏
Maravilhoso Chopin! Sua genialidade e delicadeza de sentimentos expressavam no dedilhar do piano. E mesmo no grito de protesto que ele expressou na POLONAISE N°6 "HEROICA", tinha uma expressam romântica. E Liszt, trazia a paixão eterna em suas danças Húngaras e Liberstraume. Enfim são dois compositores e intérpretes bem diferentes em suas interpretações.
They are both immortal as their music lives 'forever' - as far as this life concerns... I got the shivers up my neck when Chopin started playing at 4:18
Litz connected with a type of emotion and Chopin created music that was his mental and emotional expression in a score...one of the greatest in history.
Piotr Adamczyk u r very good actor, don’t care what people says here about ur role..., congratulations! I am very emotional about Chopin’ s life and his music. You did very good job with Stanka🍷👌🍷👌🍷
One of my best memories is when I went to a judging and played nocturne op9 no2 and the waltz in a minor. I was awarded with the highest ranking and although I remember the event I wish I had a video recording of it. Only my grandpa came because he took me there. I’m very proud that he was able to see me perform those two pieces.
Revolutionary Etude Nocturne in C# minor Heroic Polonaise Hungarian Rhasphody no 5 idk Ok, so I came back after a year and made some revisions. “Hungarian Rhasphody no 5” is obviously no. 2 And the thing I didn’t know was Chopin’s Waltz in A minor posthumous
elwafi kai youre all stupid, none of you even heard about Alkan, he was better than Liszt, chopin, beethoven or anyone else, Liszt himself said that he would never dare to compete against Alkan
We have this guy down my local pub. For a pint of guinness, he'll play "Knees up Mother Brown" on their piano. He's quite good. Nearly as good as these two. I've not requested any Liszt or Chopin off him yet, but I'm sure he could manage it if it didn't matter that the piano is missing some notes that the dog ate.
John Roland - That is what I do. I can play any music put in front of me, whether on piano, organ, or woodwinds. I am not so good playing by ear, though.
Oscar Laredo Well, a few of the pieces Chopin plays like the waltz or the nocturne were released publicly after his death. Chopin also generally hated to be the center of attention, which is why he only performed in about 30 concerts during his entire career
@@pineapple7024We all know Chopin disliked to play in front of large audiences, this is not the case. My comments come from an appreciation point of the movie. We can see a good mannerism of Liszt when he raised his hands up at the end of the Revolutionary Etude. Also, a George Sand with this air of a liberated intellectual and unique woman as the books show us. How it was, how Liszt played the piano or Chopin? We will never exactly know. That's why movies, history or personal opinions are not 100% accurate, just recordings and videos.
Whenever Liszt or Chopin finished an etude, they would send it to each other and mock each other (in a friendly way) like "HA! thats cute. Mazeppa you say? I played it with my toes. Got anything else?"
Liszt and Chopin. Thank you for making our life as pianist harder
I probably would’ve never become a pianist without listening to Chopin
And ya boy Rachmaninoff stretching our hands
Beethoven cof cof
Liszt, Chopin and Rachmaninoff: the triumvirate of pianist trolls
Lol
This is one of a few stories about what happened when Chopin and Liszt met. How accurate I can't say, but it was from living memory of their lifetimes: One evening, while assembled in a salon, Liszt played one of Chopin’s nocturnes, to which he took the liberty of adding some embellishments.
Chopin’s delicate intellectual face, which still bore the traces of recent illness, looked disturbed; at last he could not control himself any longer, he said, “I beg you, my dear friend, when you do me the honor of playing my compositions, to play them as they are written or else not at all.”
“Play it yourself then,” said Liszt, rising from the piano, rather piqued.
“With pleasure,” answered Chopin.
At that moment a moth fell into the lamp and extinguished it. They were going to light it again when Chopin cried, “No, put out all the lamps, the moonlight is quite enough.”
Then he began to improvise and played for nearly an hour. And what an improvisation it was! Description would be impossible, for the feelings awakened by Chopin’s magic fingers are not transferable into words.
When he left the piano his audience were in tears; Liszt was deeply affected, and said to Chopin, as he embraced him, “Yes, my friend, you were right; works like yours ought not to be meddled with; other people’s alterations only spoil them. You are a true poet.”
“Oh, it is nothing,” returned Chopin, gaily, “We have each our own style.”
(Nowakowski, in Karasowski, Semptember 1874)
sounds as real as dragon ball story
My Great Great Great Great grandfather was there an in he confirms this story. It was passed down never changed. He also said that sometime Chopin would only shave one side of his face the side that faces the crowd for his own pleasure of knowing that know knew except him. He got off on doing stuff like that.
If that is how it went down I would have loved to be there to live it :)
That's him. From his music can tell his soft gentle personality.
I never read about that anywhere in a biography, but that is very possible. He would improvise for hours all the time, in fact it was how he usually performed for people at soirees, rather than playing his own compositions. He also liked playing in the dark.
Liszt: plays Revolutionary Etude
Chopin: war flashbacks
liszt is a bully
@@che2048 I don't think he meant to initiate Chopin's flashbacks
If you look at the backstory of Chopin writing this etude, it makes total sense.
Why he played that piece not other etude.........
@Raged Gamer yes
Listz and Chopin playing in the same room would have been a divine concert
Lizst*
@@jukeban646 liszt haha
Really happened 7 times
@@jukeban646 liszt ***
lzist*
It’s crazy how footage like this can survive a couple of centuries.
DonVal86 I hope this is a joke.😂
@@daan0124 r/wooooosh
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Ik right
Someone whose last name is Forrester. r/ihavereddit
Sees the piano getting destroyed
me:Cries in 61 keys keyboard without touch sensitivity.
I'm so dead 🤣😂💀
yah, if they're gonna destroy it anyways, can *I* have it instead D:
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Omg this is acc af for me
😂😂😂same
Damn, you imagine having to play after Liszt? I'd jump out the window
If i were mozart . That would be easy! :)
@@fathursyahna5751 eh...about that....
Not really if you're Chopin lol
@@fathursyahna5751 Liszt is better
Fathur Syahna no not at all lmfao
*Thanks Liszt, Rachmaninoff and Chopin for filling our lives with magnificence and unspeakable beauty!*
and extreme painful etudes
With all due respect to Rachmaninoff, you really can't compare him to the 2 others...
Chopin never played the nocturne no. 20 for anybody, it was a private piece that he never published.
You can still play a piece publicly, which you wrote without publishing it
A Man Has No Name like I said this piece was private for Chopin, and side note, Chopin actually didn't play that much for others because he was known for his brilliant playing. ;)
A Man Has No Name oh and I believe he wrote this piece for his sister.
exactly, that nocturne was published after his death, being his posthumous work
He was playing in salons and to royalty. In those times you could play for royalty but not for money, you could go on a walk with them and be seen with them which elevated your status.
Chopin Looks Like Anakin Skywalker In Episode 3 Of Star Wars
Ludwig Van Beethoven And Chopin like Anakin was also tempted by a brunette!
But Herr Ludwig, what is your opinion of his music? Not quite as majestic as yours. Though that heroic Polonaise may be something you might like.
But this one doesn't hate sand, he loves Sand.
Bet you can't tell if he sounds like Anakin.
Jajajajajaj
It's over Chopin I have the high ground
My heart literally felt like it was being ripped apart when the piano got destroyed... anyone feel the same?
fucking same
Same my dude.
Even to include such action in a movie is a travesty so gross, it would cause the film to be rated "R". It is a horrible thing to do.
zetacon4 i’ve never seen the movie, why did they destroy the pianos?
@@accidxntal1786 I do not know. I was wondering that too. Maybe if I watched the movie again, I will be reminded why.
Chopin plays so well that the piano lid opens in the middle of him playing.
Mawo Duffer omg i never noticed
Lmao
I think there was a time jump between csharp minor nocturne and the polonaise
Its me
Ha Ha. Cannot stop laughing😂😂😂 What a luck, Fryderyk, you cannot read all these comments here😁
When is your new album coming out buddy?
Frèdèric Chopin It’s nice to see you, old friend... It’s me, Ludwig V. Beethoven!
You imposter I'm Beethoven!
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Nowadays... "oh my god he is playing by CANDLELIGHT... how ROMANTIC!"
Back then... "hey dude... can you bring some light over here? Thanks..."
Lol...this is probably one of the best comments.
Candles don’t produce much light at all. So you genuinely have to have it near to read sheets. Although why he does it here, not sure.
Liszt and Paganini, the 2 devil rockstars. If I'm living in their era, that would be my emo phase.
LOLOL I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT, both wonderful showmen who people would kill to play like
For me it would be a goth phase. :)
They were literally Keith Emerson and Jimi Hendrix. Liszt for Emerson and Paganini for Hendrix. Yeah.
Liszt is so much more than that
fun fact: Liszt would purposefully tune the piano wrongly and play aggressively so the strings would snap and he would improvise around the broken strings
My good pal, Chopin. Such respect I have for him! I shall write a biography on him!
Better not lend it to Carolyn.
Update: Lads and lassies, a rumour had spread that Chopin was a nasty anti-semite
@@hannahquintua probaly i heard this before
@@hannahquintua BROOO it's the second time I read this. NO. Chopin wasn't an anti-semite. He had a trouble with 2 jews and wrote a letter talking bad things about them. Check your fonts man.
@@macrobitgames2266 i said "rumour" but thanks very much for clarifying!
Hahaha Chopin sitting down and playing like that in front of everybody and mocking Liszt.
Chopin who did 5 concerts in his life and hated to be the centre of attention.
Etienne Delaunois well 5 official concerts he played for friends while drunk a bunch but that’s just our romantic era prince for ya
What's worse: Liszt plays like an uncultured piano student of 2 years :-D
He just smashes the keys in.
WHAT was the intent behind this?
@@esejsnake1503 are you serious?? You are ... Arggg I won't say none
@@esejsnake1503 never mind all the flashy almost-perfect scales and octaves
@CleXz I slowed down the video to see the first notes
Left hand is alright
Right hand seems to change the notes a little
And I don't think someone who fakes piano playing has.. rather flashy fingers
I tried playing like that and nope.
He's an experienced pianist
I hate seeing the part where the guards came and destroyed the piano with the rifle
Serene Siew HM when chopin left poland he kind of left for what would be a better start. poland was under alot of pressure at the time. so a famous young composer who could put poland on the map like beethoven and mozart did vienna, sort of speaking was knowest by a number of wealthy and political leaders. you can imagine they were not all to happy. and i also belive poland was in a conflict with russia. so its not surprising people being angry chopin ran off in their minds.
Yah, that hurt my soul
my heart died with every strike
They were Russians soliders and He was forced to leave his beloved Poland
Serene Siew HM So do I
A beautiful, sensitive, Polish actor who portrays Chopin and his soul and Polish one so well. This is one of the best clips from the movie. I have watched the full movie on YT many times.
Can you tell me the name of this movie please?
@@abubakrshoaliev2775 it is "Chopin Desire for Love" on CD, DVD? A Translated title?? Most probably the same Full! Polish movie, as on YT in English with Spanish subtitles
Under
"Chopin, un amor imposible". 2002
There is also a British movie on Chopin, 1991?, CD? Have not seen it, just clips on YT. With Hugh Grant, Judy Davis. Hope it helps.
@@karennoble1168 thank you very much!
@@abubakrshoaliev2775 I forgot, the British movie which I did not see, just clips is called " Impromptu".
May you enjoy both!
@@abubakrshoaliev2775 hello Abubakr again.
if you like Chopin like I do, there are 2 great pianists on YT playing the beautiful Impromptu (Fantasie) after which one movie was named.
Dmitry Shishkin and the lovely, elegant Anastasia Huppmann (russian-austrian).
So glad they still have footage of this historic event!
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Chopin was probably a lot more quiet and timid than he is in these scenes but I like it nonetheless.
He does show a bit of that at the start, and also notice that his A minor waltz you see at the end wasn't published until after his death.
Dihydrogen Monoxide щ
pretty sure he was timid and shy too
@@Populous3Tutorials he had his moments of extrovert.
Chopin could be really temperamental - how could one write dramatic pieces as, say, his Prélude op. 28 no. 22 and not be? Several of his Parisian experienced this side of Chopin when receiving education in piano-playing from him. As I remember it, occasionally, when in difficult mood, he would raise his voice, close to shouting, and slam his hand in the table, breaking his goose-feather pen - those were referred to as 'stormy lessons'. But he was also was jocular, and good at impersonating, and in family settings (with George sand and children), he liked to rehearse and perform puppet-theater.
Liszt was always trying to out do the piano and out do music. His whole effort was to transcend both. Chopin was in love with music, in love with the piano. He was the piano. Even Liszt, being the better pianist, had to admit that Chopin was the better musician and composer.
!!! yes !!!
Indeed
And then l
Liszt meet Paganini.. both trying to compose "unplayable songs".
Liszt's Consolation is still one of the GOATS of sadness. It's not like I dont like Nocturne it's just that Consolation has more depth.
The Hungarian Rhapsody is a work straight from the muse herself. They had very different styles but to call one better the other? I think they are beyond the threshold of mere competition.
Some scenes in the movie show Chopin leaving and 'saying good by' to his homeland - Poland (war, Russian soldier destroying the piano, carriage, escape, etc). During his trip-escape to France through Stuttgart he wrote "Stuttgard's Diary" in which he discribes his state of mind: thoughts and feelings, about his homeland and about the fall of the November's Uprising against Russian occupier). In the movie you can see also the weeping willow trees which are very characteristic to Poland and represent mourning. Chopin was born in 1810 in Zelazowa Wola, near of Warsaw, and left Poland when was 20 years old. Never seen his homeland again. Died in 1849 in Paris at the age of 39 years old (probably for tuberculosis). This is the reason why in his music is so much longing (homesickness), sadness and nostalgia. It is good to know the context (bigger picture) of his feelings and by what he was driven while creating his materpices. Since 1772 up to 1918 Poland was wipped off of the Europe's map and then split for nearly 150 years between Prusia, Russia, Habsburg's Empire and Austro-Hungerian Empire. Polish people where not allowed to speak their own language even at home what could yield in sending to Siberia. Chopin's Polish name is Szopen. I hope this information will help you better understand and feel Szopen/Chopin's music.
Bardzo dobra informacja dla cudzoziemcow. Ale z tym niemowieniem po polsku w domach trochę się Pan zagalopował😊
Przecież były wydawane książki w jęz polskim, wystawiano opery. Halka nie śpiewala po rosyjsku!
Thanks. But these are not "weeping" willow trees. Are "ordinary land" willow trees. Pictoresque though.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for your information! 🎹
We’re so blessed to have had these two geniuses
Chopin, Liszt, pronounced: "shopping list". When I go to the supermarket, I always bring my Chopin Liszt. A musical extravaganza.
Hahah
😂🤣😅
so many of these comments... it's actually pronounced as 'shoupan'
Iliya3D or "show-pan"
I actually have some grocery "Chopin Liszts'" which I bought in the Carnegie Hall gift shop.
Liszt and Chopin, two great musicians whose names will always be remembered.
A lovely friend of ours will turn 99 in December and being both Polish and a former classical pianist, adores Chopin. Although Alzheimer's is beginning to take her mind, when we visit she always remembers to request Chopin. So my son, who plays in a manner similar to Chopin and Debussy, obliged by learning several of Chopin's works. He even went as far as "completing" Chopin's posthumous Waltz in A minor. It never fails to bring a smile to her sweetly weathered face and a peaceful spirit to her home. I am convinced all great music is played from the heart, and is felt as well as heard.
7:58 ah yes, the a minor chopin waltz, one of the few waltzes not played nor released until after the death of chopin
wait...
dolphin534 I saw my classmate playing it 1 million times already on the piano performing
just a name no, thats not what the story is at all. Chopin actually had a lot of works that he wrote down, never performed, and importnalty never published as he had very high standards for himself and viewed those works as sub-par. After his death most of these works were discovered as even tho chopin didnt not like them, he also couldnt bring himself to get rid of them and they were the published as op.posth. The a minor waltz was one of these pieces
just a name uh huh, ok bud
@just a name reis be bi çeviri fırlatsana siz ne tartışıyonuz ?
dolphin534 wait for real which one is this
God thank you for Chopin.
I imagine God saying, "Sorry, but I needed him back sooner than I thought."
@Lisztian "lisztian", is that the fandom name now?
@Lisztian why, they surely can. youve just started one- lisztians for liszt fans. the only thing we need to do now is brainstorm fandom names for other classical composers
ოპა სად ვიპოვე ქართველი
@@Swzx გაუმარჯოს სულიერ დას/ძმას :)
7:28 How did Chopin know Hungarian Rhapsody no.2? Liszt published after Chopin died... Interesting...
Facts
magic
Perhaps Chopin was working on it but Liszt took the credit after Chopin died?!???
@@supermariobrandon7642 Quite sad to think that this is possible. But then again, Liszt had 19 Rhapsodies
Where did you think Liszt got the idea from?
my granny was a classical pianist. she was a specialist in Chopin and Rachmaninoff and Lizst. I'm a heavy metal singer. I dont know how to play the piano, but I love deeply classical music... this makes me cry. my favorites are Villa-Lobos, Rachmaninoff, Beethoven, Chopin and Lizst... I always say to my friends that heavy metal and hard rock are almost classical music with heavy guitars. now I'm thinking 'bout learning to play the cello, even though I'm a old guy with 39 years old... thanx for uploading this beautiful video! wish you the best! May God bless you and everyone who's watching and commenting this . I love you all
Liszt breaks my limbs, Chopin breaks my heart.
Both break both
@@kasajizo8963agreed
I love Chopin and his music,and always keep to learn his music and history
I can't understand why so many complain that actor playing Chopin is not exactly like him. Excuse me, what??? First of all, the film was made in Poland with polish actors. Do you think, that there are hundreds actors there, who look like Chopin? Piotr Adamczyk, who played this role is perfect , because he has delicate, elegant, subtle and a liitle bit neurotic face, exactly like Chopin. He doesn't have to look exactly like him, it's a matter of impression that he make and Adamczyk made it really good. I believed him , believed in his story. It's not Brad Pitt. :)))) And very good.....
haha, and Liszt was not polish he was hungarian. Beside the actor did not need to be polish to portray Chopin. As I am sure you know, Frédéric was a polish citizen but biologically half French from his French father who came from the French region of Lorraine to Poland to teach French in a boarding school. But, to be perfectly honest, i think the actors feel historically accurate, i am especially pleased with the portray of Liszt's character and demeanor it's quite close to what i imagined. Also would you be annoyed to know that Chopin wrote his handwritten letters to his father in French and not in Polish (he would use polish for his other relatives) ? Chopin was a French-Pole. The son of an immigrant French father.
goognam goognws Chopin, while he might have been biologically half French his soul was fully Polish. He wrote Polonaises and always said of himself as a Pole.
@@mateuszloniewski might have been, ?! You are funny there, he WAS biologicaly half-french. I know the french region his grandparents and his father lived in. And he always wrote his correspondance to his father in French. His father almost certainly always talked to Frédéric in French so that he acquired the language. He wanted his soul to be Polish, but there is a difference between what one wants and what one is. Most likely he wasn't interested in his father's family because of their modest origins but would rather spend time with high society regardless of nationality.
goognam goognws biology doesn’t change one’s soul.
@@goognamgoognw6637 Excuse me, he also was born in Żelazowa Wola and spent his childhood, teenage years and twenties there. He finished a polish highschool and university. He spoke polish, he wrote letters in polish and he composed his pieces in a polish spirit, using polish national dances. Don't come to me with the audacity to accuse Chopin of not being a polish composer, I beg of you.
Nunca ha habido un Compositor ,de esta Calidad y tan Romántico , del Piano ..como Frederic Chopen . Tan Prolífica su Obra ..Sus Estudios como el Revolucionario ...so tan hermosos , y con cierto grado de Dificultad que se los dedicó al Gran Franz Liszt ...Preludios , Nocturnos , Mazurcas , Squerzos , Baladas , Conciertos a mi en lo particular me encanta el 2° .
Y sus Valses .
Murió tan joven , por la Tuberculosis ..que no me explico cómo pudo componer tanto , estando enfermo . Polonia ha dado al Mundo , Científicos como Madame Curie , Chopin , y el Santo.Juan Pablo II , Papa de la Iglesia Católica ..perdón por extenderme ...amo a esa Nación ..Gracias por subir ese pequeño corto de su Película .🎹🎼🎶🎵👏👏👏👏👏💖💞😘😘😘
I have all my life , since a child, been in love with Chopin and with hes music....will allways be
Me too
I cannot even comprehend Chopin and Liszt being in the same room--the two greatest pianists that ever lived! But I always felt that Chopin sought to bring out the 'soul' of the piano, whereas Liszt wanted to compose the most technically 'unplayable ' pieces, which sacrificed the melodic line.
I presume you're not a pianist, because you're talking out of your a**. Liszt is pianistically very comfortable, often "easier" to play than Chopin. Liszt's octaves and sequences of diminished chords aren't that hard, compared to Chopin's more intricate passages. Their styles of composing are very different though, so it's useless to compare in any aspect. I wouldn't say either of them "sacrificed the melodic line", they just embellish and texture differently. I think composers like Schumann or Brahms are usually way closer to "unplayable" than Liszt. They didn't really perform their works on the piano like Liszt did, and you can really tell the difference when you've played a dozen works from each one.
You obviously have not listened to enough Liszt...there are sections of his second piano concerto and many of his later pieces that have the most beautiful melodic content ever written for piano.
I remind you that Carl Czerny was a teacher of Liszt and Thalberg, was a teacher of those who were masters of Rubinstein, Rachmaninov, Moszkowski, Barenboim and many more! From my point of view Czerny was more virtuous than Liszt and Chopin a clear example of this is the Op.365 School of Virtuoso, Op.400 School of Prelude and Fugue, Op.692 24 Grand Etudes, Op. 756 25 Great etudes
Michael Miller Greatest composer ever lived? You mean Beethoven
I humbly disagree. In my opinion, Liszt is actually more direct and passionate towards the feeling, or the soul, while Chopin's works are more melodic, but more indirect.
In term of difficulty......Actually, I would say Chopin's works are on average slightly harder than Liszt's...
Upon further review I have to repeat and re-confirm even more so that these two performances are amoungst the best interpretations I have ever heard by any pianists of these two Chopin works. The REVOLUTIONARY played by the LISZT actor and the Polonaise played by the Chopin actor have some of the most interesting dynamics, accents and phrasing I have ever heard in performance of these pieces.
I wonder who decided on these interpretations....absolutely great
I doubt they really played the piano but they make it look very real.
i think the nocturn too, love the rubato on the nocturne,
@@pooliansshots6731 yes, the piano was played bye one person - Janusz Olejniczak.
I love how he says, with quite some fear, "But after Liszt?!"
Chopin interpretaba el piano como si acariciaba las teclas. Es como se aprecia el valor de un instrumento musical y su armonía musical. Valiosísimo. Gracias.
In my imagination, Chopin only plays in complete darkness in a room that is lit, perhaps, only by a single candle. He would not take off his gloves when he plays and there would be no more than 20 people in attendance.
Even top pianists would struggle to play their best wearing gloves. They restrict movement and dampen dexterity
Andrew Marcus - I assume you're not a pianist because wearing gloves while playing (well) is darned near impossible. Playing while blindfolded is quite doable, but while wearing gloves, no. In college, however, the piano practice rooms were sometimes cold, so I wore fingerless gloves. Even those were cumbersome.
@@Andrea-xs4ny the original comment got some details right though. Chopin sometimes played in the dark, and he preferred to play in a salon or to a group of his close friends (usually less than 20 or even less than 10) because he thought it was far more intimate. For the gloves part? Ehh, I'm not sure about that.
@@cinnamonsteakhaus9013 Hi, there. I agree with you 100% and didn't contradict any of what you said. It was only the wearing of the gloves while playing piano that is not do-able.
A Man Has No Name probably slip notes too
Haber imaginado y transmitido la emoción a través del tiempo y el espacio por la sensibilidad de Liszt y Chopin,dejan una huella indeleble en el alma de quien la escuche por todos los tiempos.
4:17 imagine playing him still dre
🤣🤣🤣
uncultured swines find this funny huh
It's a joke! We are all here because we love and respect Chopin and Liszt!
what was written on the paper?
this is so funny😂😂😂
Chopin siempre será el maestro de maestros del piano...
Y eso no es del todo posible cuando hay un compositor como Franz Liszt. La técnica pianística de Liszt por sí sola estaba muy por delante de la de Chopin, por no hablar de las habilidades de orquestación.
Como ejecutante Liszt, no hay duda. Pero como compositor dame a Chopin.
@@DefinitelyNotFelis. CNN он не только мастер игры, но и гроссмейстер сочинения фортепьянной музыки!
No. Chopin es el jefe de jefes
@@DefinitelyNotFelis. Liszt era mejor pianista, pero Chopin era mejor compositor. Chopin también sufría de pobre salud casi toda su vida y solo pesaba 90 libras. Probablemente no tenía la energía para tocar tantos conciertos como Liszt. Pero Chopin era probablemente el mejor compositor de la historia junto con Mozart y Beethoven
for 50 years Chopin has moved me in ways I can not describe. he has taken me to worlds I can not perceive, This clip exemplifies why.
Hermosa película, triste la vida de mi compositor favorito. Bellas locaciones. No sabía que la condesa
Rothschild , patrocinó grandes músicos de la época. Bravo!!! Fascinante película
Yo adoro a Chopin,su sensibilidad con el piano me conmueve y me llega al alma desde siempre.
Para mí, siempre será el mejor.
Muchas gracias por compartir con nosotros ésta pieza de la película,me gustaría poder verla entera.
Si alguien me puede informar del título,me haría un gran favor,y si la pudiera encontrar, sería un gran regalo.
Adoro a Chopin desde que tenía siete años, ahora tengo 61.
Mil gracias.🎼🎶❤💕👏👏👏
Maravilhoso Chopin! Sua genialidade e delicadeza de sentimentos expressavam no dedilhar do piano. E mesmo no grito de protesto que ele expressou na POLONAISE N°6 "HEROICA", tinha uma expressam romântica. E Liszt, trazia a paixão eterna em suas danças Húngaras e Liberstraume. Enfim são dois compositores e intérpretes bem diferentes em suas interpretações.
0:52 that notes. Makes minds blowing . Chopin so crazy
شكرا لمن أعطى صوتا جميلا للحياة ❤
Хорошо сказанно...
8:30 love that right hand melody
3:32 even chopin doesn't want to play after liszt. Damn
Muchísimas gracias, Francisco Aguilera, por compartir este maravilloso video. Las escenas son verdaderamente preciosas.
Chopin et Litzt, 2 magnifiques compositeurs, mais c'est Chopin qui me va droit au cœur !!
Seeing that piano being demolished it was soul crushing 😭
They are both immortal as their music lives 'forever' - as far as this life concerns... I got the shivers up my neck when Chopin started playing at 4:18
I literally cried when they smashed that piano
Sama bym się zakochała w Chopinie po takim występie, podobnie jak George Sand. Wspaniałą muzyka wspanialy artysta
The breaking piano part made me cry
Litz connected with a type of emotion and Chopin created music that was his mental and emotional expression in a score...one of the greatest in history.
Piotr Adamczyk u r very good actor, don’t care what people says here about ur role..., congratulations!
I am very emotional about Chopin’ s life and his music. You did very good job with Stanka🍷👌🍷👌🍷
Danuta Stenka : )
I think that Chopin had played the piano more delicately✨
Just a question:
Who’s house were the cops destroying in the beginning?
Mine
Those bloody Germans
Ludwig Van Beethoven You ARE a german, and it was a russian attack.
Endergreek I failed history in 9th grade
Ludwig Van Beethoven me too
One of my best memories is when I went to a judging and played nocturne op9 no2 and the waltz in a minor. I was awarded with the highest ranking and although I remember the event I wish I had a video recording of it. Only my grandpa came because he took me there. I’m very proud that he was able to see me perform those two pieces.
Revolutionary Etude
Nocturne in C# minor
Heroic Polonaise
Hungarian Rhasphody no 5
idk
Ok, so I came back after a year and made some revisions.
“Hungarian Rhasphody no 5” is obviously no. 2
And the thing I didn’t know was Chopin’s Waltz in A minor posthumous
The idk is walz in A minor
Ethan Lam I believe that was an improvisation on Hungarian rhapasody no 2. Also Idk is Waltz in A minor which was posth.
All of those were not even close to right
Waltz In A minor
Transforming Geek boi, I got 3/5 first attempt lol
Both composer are the best pianist ever created by god
elwafi kai then you've never heard of Ludwig von Beethoven
Also Scriabin and Rachmaninoff
elwafi kai Franz Liszt doesn't even come close to the level of Chopin.
elwafi kai youre all stupid, none of you even heard about Alkan, he was better than Liszt, chopin, beethoven or anyone else, Liszt himself said that he would never dare to compete against Alkan
We have this guy down my local pub. For a pint of guinness, he'll play "Knees up Mother Brown" on their piano. He's quite good. Nearly as good as these two. I've not requested any Liszt or Chopin off him yet, but I'm sure he could manage it if it didn't matter that the piano is missing some notes that the dog ate.
I can't -- *wheeze* Piotr Adamczyk as Chopin is the best thing i saw today, thank you so much youtube recommendations--
The way he acts while playing and after seeing the womans eyes revealing his true nature of softness really reminds of me and my beloved...
Chopin is the greatest classical musician for me
Agree
Chopin was a romantic musician. The clasicism time finished with Beethoven.
Classical music is different from classicism music
Chopin.. always no.1 maestro
I love how Liszt sight-read the piece in seconds
John Roland - That is what I do. I can play any music put in front of me, whether on piano, organ, or woodwinds. I am not so good playing by ear, though.
From what I can tell, "Liszt" got a lot of the right hand (the first chord was wrong) but the left hand is faked.
"Chopin" actually played both hands.
BRAVO! Dos geniales artistas.
586 dislikes of people without culture.
Some of it is historically inaccurate
@@pineapple7024 which part?
Oscar Laredo
Well, a few of the pieces Chopin plays like the waltz or the nocturne were released publicly after his death. Chopin also generally hated to be the center of attention, which is why he only performed in about 30 concerts during his entire career
@@pineapple7024We all know Chopin disliked to play in front of large audiences, this is not the case. My comments come from an appreciation point of the movie. We can see a good mannerism of Liszt when he raised his hands up at the end of the Revolutionary Etude. Also, a George Sand with this air of a liberated intellectual and unique woman as the books show us. How it was, how Liszt played the piano or Chopin? We will never exactly know. That's why movies, history or personal opinions are not 100% accurate, just recordings and videos.
pineapple oops that’s sad
My Mom use to play Chopin... she's French and so fortunate to enjoy classical Music❣️
Chopin był Polakiem, muzyka szopena przesycona jest elementami muzyki ludowej polskiej. W sercu i duszy był Słowianin.
If they only knew how worshipped they are now and forever ❤
Fabuloso maravilloso me encanta escuchar la música de Liszt y Chopin
Maravilhoso demais, incrível, sublime, lindo !! 🇧🇷
Most beautiful and dramatic short theme, The Revolutionary Etude. Thank you so so much.
0:39 The most accurate depiction of the Etude i have heard yet. Most every other piece I've heard is waaaaay unappealing.
Que belleza poder estar en el momento volver al pasado y ver y escuchar tanta maravilla👏👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
If I were there I would be crying with Chopin.
me too
Amo as composições de frederic Chopin são maravilhosas.
Franz Liszt was very handsome there
Yes, It is easy to Fall in love with Liszt
Dios mio gracias por darnos estos dos pianistas talentosos!! Con su música nos llevan del éxtasis salvaje, al cielo de la nostalgia absoluta ...
Siempre loca por Chopin. Précision. 💗
Whenever Liszt or Chopin finished an etude, they would send it to each other and mock each other (in a friendly way) like "HA! thats cute. Mazeppa you say? I played it with my toes. Got anything else?"
2:22
"Someone's been bashing on the piano" Thank you dr. K
Exelente 😊👍🙂❤️🙏🙏🙏🙂❤️🙏🙂❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙂❤️🙏🙏❤️🙂👍😊💕😍
Hermoso, cuanta fuerza e intensidad, desborda una sensacion de inquietud ... tenacidad
I was happy when Chopin played this song 😭💕
Nagyon felemelö megmagyarázhatatlan. lérzés fog el EZ alatt a film jelenet alatt ❤😊😊❤
Grande gênio. Sempre existe uma forte história por trás das grandes mentes.
The tone of that pleyel is literally perfect
M's Compositions A Pleyel from the 1830s wouldn’t have sounded like anything close to that.
TacTundra I’m well aware. It’s not period appropriate perfect, but it’s perfect to my ears now.
I am so happy we had these two men, so much beauty to listen and play!
Im in tears..i could feel the pain in that piece
I've been Chopin and Liszt a few times myself!
Wow!
Such hard times back then 😪 makes us appreciate what we have today
Amo el piano y sus grandes artistas ❤
Liszt & Chopin, thank you for making my ears feel better!!!!