Language Challenge: Chinese vs Indonesian

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • In this video, we compare some of the vocabulary shared between Indonesian (bahasa Indonesia) and Chinese (Cantonese and Mandarin), with Firman, an Indonesian speaker from Indonesia and Luke who speaks Cantonese and Mandarin. The Indonesian language has been influenced by many other languages, with Chinese being one of them.
    A number of Chinese words are found in Indonesian due to historical connections. The Chinese language is a group of related languages which, despite being categorized in the same Sino-Tibetan language family, are not mutually intelligible in many cases. Out of the many groups of Chinese, Mandarin is by far the most spoken, followed by Wu, Min, and Yue (Cantonese). All varieties of Chinese are tonal and analytic. Mandarin Chinese is the official language of China and Taiwan, as well as one of the four official languages of Singapore, while Cantonese is the official language of Hong Kong and Macau.
    Indonesian is a standardized register of Malay and the official language of Indonesia. Indonesia is a multi-lingual country and most Indonesians speak another language, however, the Indonesian language is used as a lingua franca. Indonesian is also recognized as minority language in East Timor.
    If you live in Toronto or the surrounding areas and would like to participate in a future video, and/or if you have any suggestions or feedback, please contact us on Instagram:
    Shahrzad (@shahrzad.pe): / shahrzad.pe
    Bahador (@BahadorAlast): / bahadoralast
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  • @BahadorAlast
    @BahadorAlast  Před 5 lety +76

    If you have any suggestions or feedback, please contact us on Instagram:
    Shahrzad (@shahrzad.pe): instagram.com/shahrzad.pe
    Bahador (@BahadorAlast): instagram.com/BahadorAlast

    • @zak.886
      @zak.886 Před 5 lety +1

      please do an African language preferably somali but any will do

    • @daengzha353
      @daengzha353 Před 5 lety

      Good bro.. mantap jiwa .. sukses bro, good luck :-) .

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +3

      I guess more similarities comes from Fujianese or Teochew. Teochew for Tea is Teh, so is Indonesian. So please do another video between Indonesian and Teochew or Fujianese. Im looking forward to the video.

    • @aquielos
      @aquielos Před 5 lety

      Please do Altaic languages!
      Uyghur vs Uzbek
      Mongolian vs Kalmyk

    • @ruuoxi
      @ruuoxi Před 5 lety +1

      please put the words meaning in the screen too 🙂

  • @kevina_james
    @kevina_james Před 5 lety +698

    Firman should have his own channel

  • @gregor5609
    @gregor5609 Před 5 lety +581

    good thing Firman is smart, 80% of these words i don’t even know existed in indonesia.

    • @anggaperdana9136
      @anggaperdana9136 Před 5 lety +47

      esp. when the "tang" part. I thought the Cantonese guy meant to say "tang" as in "pliers". Idk how Firman could interpret it as (lampu) teng-teng. And for all this time I thought it is called "teng-teng" because you carry it with your hand (ditenteng). Turns out it is a Chinese loanword lol

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +51

      Firman is awesome. He even knows 'cha'. As we all indonesian never say cha for tea. But Teh, as Fujianese and Teochew peoplr say for tea. Good Job Firman.

    • @ismayanasusanto467
      @ismayanasusanto467 Před 5 lety +11

      Harry - Sebenarnya kebanyakan bahasa selain menggunakan kata Tea/Teh... dalam Arabic, Turkish, Japanese, Persian Teh = Çay atau Chai, atau Cei, dan di video ini Cha...

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +2

      @@ismayanasusanto467 iya bener bgt. Krn smuanya mengetahui Teh dr China langsung krn hubungan dagang di masa lalu. Hanya bbbrp bangsa seperti inggris yg mengenalnya dr pedagang Fujian, jafi.mengenalnya sebagai Tea. N kbetulan mayoritas pedagang Hokkien dulu tinggal dan akhurnya menjadi warga Indonesia dan dikenal Cha sebagai Teh. Makasi Infonya

    • @falah5122
      @falah5122 Před 5 lety

      same

  • @cloudeee674
    @cloudeee674 Před 5 lety +171

    Firman is so smart. He knows lot of words, it makes me feel like a failure.

  • @lpveisintheairsm
    @lpveisintheairsm Před 5 lety +278

    I like Firman and his smile :)
    He is soo positive :)

  • @faraharfiah1001
    @faraharfiah1001 Před 5 lety +109

    Firman is soooo smart, most of us (indonesian) have no idea what he said. firman is so rich in vocabulary, i adore you, mr!

  • @awesomeirlable
    @awesomeirlable Před 5 lety +259

    I feel like your videos comparing “Chinese” and southeast Asian languages would have been better if you used a Hokkien speaker

  • @delaformosa
    @delaformosa Před 5 lety +534

    FIRMAN AGAIN :) It appears that Indonesian is probably one of the most diverse languages! I would suggest finding a Hokkien/Min Nan speaker either from Fujian, China or Taiwan when comparing Chinese with Southeast Asian languages. Most Chinese people in maritime Southeast Asia (Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia) are Hokkien/Min Nan Chinese and thus their Chinese influence on these languages is mostly of the Hokkien/Min Nan dialect

    • @Leo-jn5ny
      @Leo-jn5ny Před 5 lety +4

      they are racist

    • @Leo-jn5ny
      @Leo-jn5ny Před 5 lety +5

      i mean indonesian

    • @lgunport
      @lgunport Před 5 lety +16

      @@Leo-jn5ny nah we only racist to chinese, there is background to this, in colonial age, dutch make a caste in their colonial territories, 1st citizen is European, 2nd Chinese and other like arab and indian, last is indigenous, chinese is special because of the whiteness of their skin they feel even superior than arab and indian, thus we indigenous more tolerated then the chinese, they the chinese community also very inclusive in their community.
      hence we hate both chinese and european more than any other, of course at this age this condition getting more declined with more interaction between indonesian.

    • @FeyTheBin
      @FeyTheBin Před 5 lety +26

      Chinese-Indonesian here, the Chinese in Indonesia werr typically used as scapegoats for all the nation's problems since long before Indonesia even existed back in the colonial era. Our true dark age was during the mass genocide of Chinese-Indonesians during the anti-communist purge committed by The New Order.

    • @maitosensei5091
      @maitosensei5091 Před 5 lety +1

      Our first muslim King is a chinese

  • @yaktisuputri9939
    @yaktisuputri9939 Před 5 lety +347

    Mr. Bahador. Indonesia is more closer with Chinese Hokkien than Chinese Cantonese. So in this video, we see Firman thinking hard for the words. Coz the words is Cantonese words, not Hokkien words. Chinese has many languages such as Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien.
    Indonenesian is adopted Hokkien

    • @danudamarjati5487
      @danudamarjati5487 Před 5 lety +5

      Perhaps it's due to historical background of Hokkien. They colonize southeastern part of China that actually the land of Austronesian language people (the big family including Indonesia language, malay, tagalog, etc). But they absorb the Austronesian element before Austronesian totaly vanished or went to Formosa, long time ago

    • @amoldivo
      @amoldivo Před 5 lety +2

      "dialect"

    • @hardwins7949
      @hardwins7949 Před 4 lety +4

      Yes, I agree with this, because the Hokkien (Min An Hua) is the most commonly spoken by the Chinese decendants in Indonesia. Cha which called teh in Chinese Hokkien, Ciu (jiu) which means wine which is also the word to describe the sugar cane wine, tahu as in tofu and many more

    • @Samuel-hc5es
      @Samuel-hc5es Před 4 lety +8

      bener nih.padahal kalo hokkien banyak bgt yg mirip.lu gua lah,kwetiau lah,mi lah.wkwkk

    • @jefflokanata
      @jefflokanata Před 2 lety

      @@amoldivo i don’t think it is dialect, but a seperate language with same writing system. Because some grammar also different in sinaitic language group, and vocabulary different. For example, Putonghua using 吃 for eat and some southerner using 食. Different pronounce, different glyph.

  • @sydney8213
    @sydney8213 Před 5 lety +33

    Hi I'm Chinese Indonesian, so i might want to clarify about the word "hong cao" or "紅酒" that Firman might be confused. We usually call it "ang ciu" in Indonesia and it is one of the most common cooking ingredient in every Chinese household. Ang itself means Red and Ciu (Jiu) means wine. It is very different from the usual redwine, since we most use this term for "cooking wine".

  • @kassandrasanojamirsjach6479
    @kassandrasanojamirsjach6479 Před 5 lety +299

    Finally.. Firman with his smile😂💕

  • @thelord5223
    @thelord5223 Před 5 lety +464

    Indonesian vs Arabic ✅
    Indonesian vs Tamil ✅
    Indonesian vs Portuguese
    Indonesian vs dutch ✅
    Indonesian vs sanskrit
    Indonesian vs spanish
    Indonesian vs persia ✅
    Indonesian vs chinese ✅
    Indonesian vs japanes
    Indonesian vs turkish
    Indonesian vs france
    Indonesian vs jerman
    Indonesian vs ??????

    • @oropher17
      @oropher17 Před 5 lety +31

      nasrul chan i think they did indonesian vs filipino as well

    • @irenepuri9189
      @irenepuri9189 Před 5 lety +52

      Indonesian vs Thai, maybe? Since both languanges are strongly influenced by Sanskrit

    • @irenepuri9189
      @irenepuri9189 Před 5 lety +11

      Or maybe Indonesian vs Hindi or any other languages spoken in India? You decide! Hahaha

    • @sigitnurwicaksono
      @sigitnurwicaksono Před 5 lety +3

      Oki Aditya A P menghitung 1-10 hampir sama

    • @antonyniostel7478
      @antonyniostel7478 Před 5 lety +6

      Indonesian vs Wakandan

  • @suciretnowati8219
    @suciretnowati8219 Před 5 lety +207

    Most of chinese in indonesia came from fujian province (southern china). They spoke hokkien language/dialect. There will be many words absorbed from hokkien into indonesian language and regional languages. Mandarin came from north china and only widely used in mainland when china became republic in 20th century.

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +22

      Yes. So more similarities should come from Indonesian and Fujianese or Teochew. Like teochew for tea is teh. Like Indonesian teh

    • @hafizulliki1654
      @hafizulliki1654 Před 5 lety

      Why Chinese in Indonesian can speak hokkien,when i come indonesia,my friend speaking in hokkien,and they said speak English or Bahasa

    • @fivantvcs9055
      @fivantvcs9055 Před 5 lety

      @@hafizulliki1654 Certain people have kept the language, some others not.

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety

      Abdurahhman, i see. I believe its so similar, because teochew and hokkienese belong to the same family of language. Thanks for correcting.

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +5

      @danza yes. Mayority chinese in smaller city in indonesia still speak their own mother tongues, either teochew, hokkienese, fujianese, hakkanese, cantonese or hainamese. Mainly because it is spoken by older generations and taught by them. Some younger generations do speak mother tongue mixed with some indonesian or completely indonesian only

  • @dabitouya1073
    @dabitouya1073 Před 5 lety +56

    I'm Firman's fan now :)

  • @rcharles3624
    @rcharles3624 Před 5 lety +311

    I hope this video would enlight Indonesians about the strong influence of Chinese culture in Indonesia and help eradicate the racial issues.
    Many words in Indonesian, food(Nasi goreng, mie goreng), and various Indonesian traditions (Betawi) receive strong influence from China.
    Btw, many Indonesian words are actually influenced by Hokkien instead of Mandarin and other Chinese languages so you may want to make a specific video for this.

    • @muhammadraditz5074
      @muhammadraditz5074 Před 5 lety +13

      I think, like or not, arab still have stronger influence than chinese culture..

    • @ferdy7819
      @ferdy7819 Před 5 lety +46

      @@muhammadraditz5074 i think indian culture has more effect than arabs, even more before islamic era in indonesia

    • @agussaang3695
      @agussaang3695 Před 5 lety +9

      Its a melting pot of various culture, custom or tradition.they all add richness to local culture.agree about hokkian influence.

    • @noname-pe1fn
      @noname-pe1fn Před 5 lety +29

      The stronger influence in indonesia is china,
      Many kings and sultans in indonesian marry chinese princess but no one ever heard married indian princess :)

    • @noname-pe1fn
      @noname-pe1fn Před 5 lety +26

      Even chinese is one of the reason why many indonesian are muslim today

  • @aquielos
    @aquielos Před 5 lety +102

    Even the words "Gua" (I) and "Elu" (You) are derived from South Min (Min Nam) or known as "HokKian" in Batavia during Dutch colonization and before Japanese colonization (now it is Jakarta, crowdest city in SE Asia maritime).
    But those are unofficial words in Indonesian, but amazingly most of Indonesians regardless ethnic, race, culture, religions and languages use those words.
    The official words for "I, Me" and "You, Your" in Indonesian is "Ako, Saya" and "Kamu, Kau, Anda, Anta".
    The daily currency in Indonesian such as:
    50 (Go Cjap)
    100 (Ce Paek)
    1000 (Ce Ceng)
    1500 (Ceng Go)
    1000000 (Ce Tiaw)
    Are derived from MinNam language.
    You say Indonesian foods such as "Bak Sao", "Bak Mie", "Bak Wan", even "Ke Ciap" (Sauce) etc all are derived from Hok Kian / Min Nam.
    In Malaysia and Singapore, you can also see and find so numerous words, etc there.

    • @aquielos
      @aquielos Před 5 lety +3

      If Firman says "Pangsit" (food), would the Cantonese speakers understand that word?

    • @liongkienfai104
      @liongkienfai104 Před 5 lety +1

      ​@@aquielos No it's too different. In Cantonese its "wonton." I'm actually not sure where the word pangsit came from.

    • @xiraoit9342
      @xiraoit9342 Před 5 lety +3

      Dan sebagai orang sumatera saya heran mendengar kata pecahan mata uang 50 ( Go Cjap)
      100 (Ce Paek) 1000(Ce Ceng) 500(Go Paek), biasanya kata kata itu dipakai di daerah jakarta/jawa

    • @riyansyah1203
      @riyansyah1203 Před 4 lety

      @@xiraoit9342 di daerah medan kota sumut biasa bilang cepek, gopek dsb..

    • @Thew8494
      @Thew8494 Před 4 lety

      @@xiraoit9342 lampung ada jg yg nyebut ny bgtu kok😅

  • @dylanjacobs3795
    @dylanjacobs3795 Před 5 lety +125

    The Chinese language that both Filipino and Indonesian borrowed from isn't Mandarin or Cantonese, but Hokkien. So, the comparison between these languages would be easier to notice.

    • @visorview9651
      @visorview9651 Před 5 lety +1

      Yes, because they are the earliest migrant from China to Phillipines and Indonesia.

    • @tommer5696
      @tommer5696 Před 5 lety +3

      Same goes to Malay

    • @alpath4572
      @alpath4572 Před 4 lety +1

      USA too

    • @alpath4572
      @alpath4572 Před 4 lety

      Why No one Chinese in india ? and No one indian in China ? Why...Why...why

    • @bijoydasudiya
      @bijoydasudiya Před 3 lety

      @@alpath4572 In Kolkata and Mumbai you'll find many.

  • @Minecraft4Spam
    @Minecraft4Spam Před 5 lety +27

    I like how Firman acts like a true Indonesian (especially the Javanese) in the video. Most of us act and talk like this, it just feels so familiar.

    • @xiraoit9342
      @xiraoit9342 Před 5 lety +1

      Not a javanese but sumatera

    • @rickville8898
      @rickville8898 Před 2 lety +3

      @@xiraoit9342 Pfft Sumatran are loud and less work nothing like Firman at all

    • @yumiyuki5851
      @yumiyuki5851 Před rokem +1

      @@rickville8898 the language used by the word is standard Malay (which is made the national language in Indonesia), not Javanese

  • @nevyelysa9549
    @nevyelysa9549 Před 5 lety +31

    Mas Firman ini kok ya pintar, manis, baik dan positif banget, ya. Seneng ngeliatnya. Semoga mas Firman baca :D
    Love this channel, I learn and get knowledge at the same time.

  • @PatriciusJoshua271197
    @PatriciusJoshua271197 Před 5 lety +611

    Indonesian chinese here.. Tionghua Indonesia mana jempolnya! 印尼华人来吧!

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +9

      Sini. Salam dari pontianak.

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +3

      @Abdurrahman Syahid tio ciu nang dari khuntien. Hahahaha. Mantap ni mas, bisa tio ciu?

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +1

      @Abdurrahman Syahid pantesan. Hokkien lang.

    • @Nico6801
      @Nico6801 Před 5 lety

      Gue chinese jakarta (Y)

    • @pamelapatricia4539
      @pamelapatricia4539 Před 5 lety

      我来 ...

  • @Na.ri18
    @Na.ri18 Před 2 lety +4

    i love Firman's smile..
    he always smiles and laughs,,. yes, that's the hallmark of Indonesian people, _always smiling and friendly to anyone and anywhere_

  • @avenzoaraliaa9869
    @avenzoaraliaa9869 Před 5 lety +21

    I LOVE THE WAY FIRMAN'S SMILE. HE IS SO HANDSOME

  • @wowiagree9208
    @wowiagree9208 Před 4 lety +14

    Firman's smile is so contagious!

  • @sincerelyfeels138
    @sincerelyfeels138 Před 5 lety +21

    His smile... Omg i think Im Firman's fan now..

  • @diosundoro5019
    @diosundoro5019 Před 5 lety +39

    If you try with Hokkien speaker, there will be even more similarities

  • @dinday9063
    @dinday9063 Před 5 lety +16

    Firman’s smile ( best ever smile i’ve ever seen )

  • @belajarsipil
    @belajarsipil Před 5 lety +79

    I am waiting for dutch and indonesian in teams, but this one is good ... hope this channel grow bigger... especially for bahasa Indonesia, the most influenced language by other countries.. We absorb so many word from persia, arabic, dutch,etc , convert into bahasa...

    • @abduljaliltv4950
      @abduljaliltv4950 Před 5 lety +3

      I guess they have made it, just check this one czcams.com/video/XCoUAisXaMU/video.html

  • @satriaperwirajati8109
    @satriaperwirajati8109 Před 5 lety +11

    I'll show this to my Chinese & Hong Kongese friends. Thank you! 😁

  • @pualamnusantara7903
    @pualamnusantara7903 Před 5 lety +6

    Awesome video as usual!

  • @anasawitri2678
    @anasawitri2678 Před 5 lety +9

    Wow this is awesome. How about the similarities between Indonesian and Afrikaans? I can't wait for the next video

    • @nockeynoo
      @nockeynoo Před 5 lety

      it would be cool if he gonna make it~

  • @olliejobson6371
    @olliejobson6371 Před 4 lety +6

    I speak Teochew, Canto, and Mandarin! It's so interesting how you can hear how similar Indonesian is to Teochew and Hokkien (A language that a friend of mine speaks)

  • @Xdianaandini
    @Xdianaandini Před 5 lety +93

    Is this cute boys video? Lol

  • @Rouhhali
    @Rouhhali Před 5 lety +15

    The dark blue shirts of the three of you guys are actually a great match! :D Had you previously agreed to wear the same colour? :D :D Lol just kidding! Great vid as always!

    • @cheryl1099
      @cheryl1099 Před 5 lety +2

      Omg.. I didn't realized it hhaa.. That was called bromance.. 😂😍

  • @ar_ci
    @ar_ci Před 5 lety +14

    Cantonese sounds so nasal...the intonation is interesting.
    Thanks Bahador!

  • @rudyramadhana4127
    @rudyramadhana4127 Před 5 lety +8

    Firman strikes again!

  • @seogabonotjah6555
    @seogabonotjah6555 Před 5 lety +38

    Firman again....love it.
    One of the most fun episode

  • @novalarsad7241
    @novalarsad7241 Před 5 lety +8

    Great video, as always. I wonder, how do you find all those words? I mean, you must be doing some research about it and you already knew the historical connection between the languages, but how do you know which word in one language has the equivalent word in the other? Thanks for answering 😃 and keep up the good work 💪🏻

    • @BahadorAlast
      @BahadorAlast  Před 5 lety

      Thank you. Sometimes it requires a lot of research, sometimes not a lot. I have our Instagram followers who speak the language fluently check them over.

  • @fivantvcs9055
    @fivantvcs9055 Před 5 lety +11

    Very interesting +Bahador Alast ! A very strong Chinese influence in Indonesia and not just since 20 years. Hokkien Chinese (the origine of the Chinese words in Bahasa Indonesia) must be a very rich language (less known compared with Mandarin and Cantonese).

  • @nathasyasusilo8574
    @nathasyasusilo8574 Před 5 lety +7

    I'm Indonesian and proud of Firman. Well done boy😍 and thanks for Bahador, you did great as always💘 ممنون عزیزام. Btw I ever learnt persian lol

  • @heymusiclovers8361
    @heymusiclovers8361 Před 5 lety +3

    LOVE YOUR VIDEOS..😍😍 love this language similarities... thank you for making these videos...

  • @TheMichaelChow
    @TheMichaelChow Před 5 lety +40

    "chinese" words that got absorbed into Indonesian are actually hokkien words. So if you can find someone who speaks that "dialect"(i'd say it's more of a different language really just in the same family as mandarin), i'm sure they'll do much better. (don't use malaysian hokkien/ indonesian hokkien or singaporean hokkien speakers tho, they understand Malay and or Indonesian)

  • @larryye1687
    @larryye1687 Před 5 lety +82

    茶 is pronounced 'cha' in Mandarin. But 'teh' in Hokkien. So Indonesian took this word from Hokkien dialect.
    酒 is pronounced 'jiu' in Mandarin. Known as CIU in Indonesian.
    KONGSI is from the word 公司 in Mandarin 'Gong Si' , means company.

    • @JJack60602tw
      @JJack60602tw Před 5 lety +3

      酒也是從福建話借的,如果是從普通話借,印尼語可能會寫成cio,而不是ciu
      公司也是一樣

    • @methylatedlysine
      @methylatedlysine Před 4 lety

      Gong Xi is also Teochew not sure abt Hokkien

    • @olliejobson6371
      @olliejobson6371 Před 4 lety

      The Teochew word for Tea(茶) is Teh/Deh depending on your specific region/village!

    • @CiCi-by8dy
      @CiCi-by8dy Před 4 lety

      In our dialect kongsi/ kungsi means colaboration/share

    • @CiCi-by8dy
      @CiCi-by8dy Před 4 lety

      In our dialect kongsi/ kungsi means colaboration/share

  • @antonellom6991
    @antonellom6991 Před 5 lety +3

    Beautiful video. Next time between Similarities danish and swedish?😊

  • @ataberkin
    @ataberkin Před 5 lety +6

    Good work again !!!

  • @Rouhhali
    @Rouhhali Před 5 lety +5

    Here comes my suggestion for one of the future videos. Try to research Russian vs. Turkish. You might get surprised by the fact that the two languages have much more words in common than we could actually think. I speak both languages, and had I lived in Toronto, I would be honoured to participate in this project. But I'm too far, and the only thing I can help with is to make a list with the common words that I know exist. Let me know if you need my help with that! :) Good luck for your future endeavors anyway!

  • @araara4746
    @araara4746 Před 5 lety +48

    Bahasa Indonesia banyak mengbsorb bahasa hokkian, dan hampir tidak ada bahasa kanton yang diabsorb, mestinya cari hokkian speaker, bukan kanton speaker.
    Cukup mengherankan dia bisa merefer kata 酒 (ciu) dengan minuman beralkohol dan 茶 (cha) dengan teh.

  • @9bola3
    @9bola3 Před 6 dny +1

    That was a great video, again, from a great channel.
    I feel the show would be even that much more enjoyable if the cards would be put on the table and the camera just rolled while only the two diacussed freely about the lots of things that must come to mind whenever they get a new word.
    To hear the prononciation from both languages consistently for every one of the words in the cards would also be awesome, I felt like I could not get what it was that related between some of the words they were discussing on each round.
    Thanks for this video, I was really looking fir this content, comparing languages and finding similarities.

  • @shawnlin4214
    @shawnlin4214 Před 5 lety +2

    As other people have mentioned, the Chinese influence in Indonesia is from Minnanhua. People from southern Fujian, Taiwan, Chinese in SEA are commonly minnanhua speakers.

  • @hsuhorn
    @hsuhorn Před 5 lety +6

    I think you should do Dutch vs German as they’re very similar.

  • @adhindaayu8521
    @adhindaayu8521 Před 3 lety +2

    This is the second time i watch the videos on this channel. And i love if there is Firman. I think he id smart and humble and always smiling. He is so Indonesian. He seemed very appreciating of his friends.
    And for this channel, i love it. Positif content for me. Give me a lot of knowledge. You look so humble and polite. You didn't interrupted when your friends was talking.

  • @liongkienfai104
    @liongkienfai104 Před 5 lety

    cantonese, teochew, and hakka speaking indonesian here! glad you guys did this video :)

  • @mariokang14
    @mariokang14 Před 5 lety +25

    I think teh (tea in english) is more similar in hokkien (one of the chinese dialect). In hokkien tea also called as teh. Same like in indonesian language

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +4

      Yes thats right. Somehow its funny to know that, indonesian for tea is Teh (fujianese and teochew) but chinese glass is Cawan (mandarin 茶碗) in indonesian. I guess its time for another video of Fujianese or Teochew and Indonesian.

    • @joshuakoa9596
      @joshuakoa9596 Před 5 lety +1

      And kongsi from Indonesian (company in English) is gongsi in Hokkien

    • @joshuakoa9596
      @joshuakoa9596 Před 5 lety

      @Abdurrahman Syahid yes it is
      Just wrote gongsi for Hokkien as though it were pinyin for Mandarin to mimic the pronunciation

    • @rickville8898
      @rickville8898 Před 2 lety

      It's true we borrowed word TEH from Hokkien dialect while the rest of world call it Cha

  • @hendraadyatama8097
    @hendraadyatama8097 Před 5 lety +3

    Thanks for the video broo 👌👌👌

  • @najma2613
    @najma2613 Před 5 lety +3

    Wow....great comparison as always. Didn't expect most of these. Great how the world connects in way we don't notice. Next Somalia and Korean! That'll be insanity unfolding😅

  • @hiwaubaid1942
    @hiwaubaid1942 Před 4 lety +1

    This is great video thank you bahador

  • @IKNFLY666
    @IKNFLY666 Před 5 lety +7

    Fun fact, the word “tea” has comes from the Chinese dialect of Minnan/Hokkien/Teochew “Dea”, whereas Cantonese and Manderin pronounce “Cha”

  • @xolang
    @xolang Před 5 lety +8

    interesting. I didn't understand quite a few words somehow.. maybe a Hokkian (or Taiwanese) speaker would fit better since a lot of the Chinese loanwords in Indonesian are from Hokkian.

  • @ChocolatTherapy
    @ChocolatTherapy Před 5 lety +10

    oh man this makes me want to learn Indonesian.. why you gotta do this to meee haha. it’s 2am why I am still even here

  • @LetsPolish
    @LetsPolish Před 5 lety

    I like your videos very much. The one thing you should think about is "denoising". It's quite easy to do in Audacity.

  • @mooontheto
    @mooontheto Před 5 lety +1

    This channel very underated, deserved more subs

    • @BahadorAlast
      @BahadorAlast  Před 5 lety

      Thank you :) We're growing! Really appreciate your support!

  • @johnpaulocortez1546
    @johnpaulocortez1546 Před 5 lety +8

    Yey Firman! 😍😊❤

  • @tomosan8537
    @tomosan8537 Před 5 lety +3

    You should add the English word for each word and how they are written in latin alphabet, other than that are a very good work, keep it up!

  • @mail4hadi
    @mail4hadi Před 5 lety +6

    I like how the crew in the background sometimes jump into the show... :-))

  • @MariiiaPuder
    @MariiiaPuder Před 5 lety +4

    If you are planning to do a video about Sanskrit and Russian i can help you since i study Russian and took Sanskrit lessons for 2 weeks 😅 They are surprisingly similar but Sanskrit is a very old language i dont know if you know someone speaking it

  • @vinayandriansyah
    @vinayandriansyah Před 5 lety +3

    I like your content bro.. keep it up.. Love from Indonesia

  • @bintangagungadhipradana5177

    Try to see the similarities between Indonesian and French😂😅 Anyway thanks Firman for always bringing up the smile haha!

  • @FebryantyPutry
    @FebryantyPutry Před 5 lety +5

    Firman looks so kind and charming ahhaha

  • @eriquerique
    @eriquerique Před 5 lety +9

    紅酒 (mandarin: hong jiu / cantonese: hung zau) = red wine -> The Indonesian equivalent would be "Angciu" (taken from Hokkien word ang = red, ciu = wine). As for the Indonesian word "Anggur Merah" (anggur = wine/grape, merah = red) that Firman said, the etymology has nothing to do with "angciu". So no, the "Ang" in "Anggur" does not come from "Ang" in "Angciu". Because one means "wine/grape", and the latter means "red". The Indonesian word "Anggur" (wine/grape) comes from the Farsi word "angoor" (same meaning. grape).

  • @amazonyussen
    @amazonyussen Před 5 lety +5

    Yeah Firman there..👍

  • @maia9019
    @maia9019 Před 5 lety +18

    The Indonesian guy look like lee min-ho

  • @djevespa
    @djevespa Před 5 lety +11

    Love it .. i think Giwang are Javanese but officially became Indonesian.

    • @emonharis4171
      @emonharis4171 Před 3 lety +1

      in Minangkabau language = gewang

    • @djevespa
      @djevespa Před 3 lety

      @@emonharis4171 ow mirip2 ya

  • @AjiAliansyah97
    @AjiAliansyah97 Před 5 lety +6

    Bahasa is back 🤘🏻🔥

  • @samerahussain6399
    @samerahussain6399 Před 5 lety +7

    I loved Luke and there are a lot of similarities between these languages and luke is handsome

  • @irenepuri9189
    @irenepuri9189 Před 5 lety +8

    Actually, I'm waiting for Indonesian vs Dutch in teams, but this one is also interesting. Most of chinese loan words in Bahasa Indonesia came from Hokkien dialect actually. Btw, can we have another language challenges like Indonesian vs Thai or Indonesian vs Hindi or any other languages spoken in India since those three languages are strongly influenced by Sanskrit (I guess? Please correct me). As always, thank you for video and keep uploading more interesting videos about languages! Cheers, man! :)

    • @jumagames0062
      @jumagames0062 Před 5 lety

      pls no

    • @irenepuri9189
      @irenepuri9189 Před 5 lety +1

      @@jumagames0062 why tho? I think that would be interesting to know about the similarities between those languanges

    • @jumagames0062
      @jumagames0062 Před 5 lety

      @@irenepuri9189 I'm still upset that he once colnized Indonesia ... I rgret hving a shrp nose....i hate u all india belanda

    • @harry-4070
      @harry-4070 Před 5 lety +2

      Indonesian and Thai will be very interesting.

    • @irenepuri9189
      @irenepuri9189 Před 5 lety

      @@harry-4070 I know right! Hahahah

  • @kenken31
    @kenken31 Před 5 lety

    I think most of the Chinese word that you asked was not Cantonese, but Hokkien (other dialect in Fujian Province).
    Like example "Room", it pronounced exactly "Punk Keng" in Hokkien, or the word that Firman mentioned on Red is "Ang" is also from Hokkien dialect.
    Hope it helps to understand more on the Chinese Dialect.
    Thumbs up on your comparison video about language, it's quite interesting to see that language has the same pronounciation, which make me believe that the root of the language itself might come from only 2-3 languages (maybe) but it evolves through time, and become thousand of it.

  • @nurmaghfiroh5223
    @nurmaghfiroh5223 Před 5 lety +2

    Your new subscriber here😁

  • @proeuropean5703
    @proeuropean5703 Před 5 lety +39

    Greek vs Turkish please 🙏🏽😁 . By the way very interesting video ;)

  • @hema1218
    @hema1218 Před 5 lety +6

    Hey Bahador.. ur name says all. bahador means strong in India and ur brave of uniting people . Thanks for connecting different people..

  • @marymadelleine
    @marymadelleine Před 5 lety

    Can you post the chosen word with its answer in the comparing language on screen so the readers can understand/know which words were discussed in the video? And I mean for every video since a lot of people curious about tons of loan words in Indonesian. Thanks.

  • @mynameismarvin
    @mynameismarvin Před 2 lety

    Nice videos! More Chinese-related content if you can, thanks! :)

  • @OkThisllbeMyName
    @OkThisllbeMyName Před 5 lety +13

    I speak Cantonese. Finally something I can relate lol

  • @samspear8772
    @samspear8772 Před 5 lety +4

    Well done!

  • @vietducpham2492
    @vietducpham2492 Před 5 lety

    Hello from Hanoi. I fancy both of them. Btw if you know any Vietnamese person living in Toronto, you can try to prepare a video language challenge/similarities between Vietnamese and Chinese. This would be very interesting.

  • @akunsyahrul5422
    @akunsyahrul5422 Před 5 lety +2

    Come on firman, make your own channel

  • @ElChakraDTH
    @ElChakraDTH Před 5 lety +3

    How u get those reference of words. It just shock me that Bahasa and Cantonese have some similarities.

    • @rickville8898
      @rickville8898 Před 2 lety

      Why surprise? Indonesian have strong tie with Chinese influence in culture and language since ancient time although it was mostly from Hokkian dialect speakers from Fujian.

  • @naufalkms
    @naufalkms Před 5 lety +3

    Nice video bro

  • @guzaldeniz1856
    @guzaldeniz1856 Před 4 lety

    In persian the word for tea is chai which is similiar to the chinese word . is it a chinese origin word ?

  • @niZSonovski
    @niZSonovski Před 5 lety +1

    Usually you put the explanation text on the screen, so where is it?

  • @HumanSagaVault
    @HumanSagaVault Před 4 lety +5

    I see Firman, i click. :)

  • @AndiCahyoW
    @AndiCahyoW Před 5 lety +39

    Firman is so charming. (No homo here, just being honest)

    • @rizalsandy
      @rizalsandy Před 5 lety +4

      Semua juga tahu senyum dia gimana hehe

    • @SitiNorairahAzzizah
      @SitiNorairahAzzizah Před 5 lety +3

      I love him, he's so yummy

    • @thegoldenpie8774
      @thegoldenpie8774 Před 4 lety +1

      @Siren Thelxiope in indonesia, if u're man and u say "he's handsome" to stranger(s), people will think u're gay (homosexual)

    • @giorgi2702
      @giorgi2702 Před 4 lety

      The Golden Pie and? is he really that insecure that he needs to specify he’s not gay?

    • @thegoldenpie8774
      @thegoldenpie8774 Před 4 lety

      @@giorgi2702 u'll know the answer after u learn about this country

  • @abderrazakbaddou
    @abderrazakbaddou Před 4 lety +1

    I've watched many of your videos. Interesting stuff. I love languages. I'm learning Chinese and I'm happy I know two words from the ones you used in the examples: jîu 酒 & chā 查。
    can you make one with Berber (tamazight), I'm a native speaker.

    • @BahadorAlast
      @BahadorAlast  Před 4 lety +1

      I would love to! Just need a fluent speaker here in Toronto who is interested in participating.

  • @TheXanian
    @TheXanian Před 5 lety +2

    Suggestion for future videos: Minnan/Hokkien/Hainanese VS Indonesian/Tagalog or Tai-Kradai (Thai, Zhuang, etc.) VS Austronesian (Indonesian, Tagalog, Llocano, etc.).

  • @estisvlog2381
    @estisvlog2381 Před 5 lety +51

    Oh my god.. firman. I like his smile! Hahah

  • @paskaindonesia
    @paskaindonesia Před 5 lety +3

    'ang' is actually "red (紅)" in Hokkien/Min Nan, not comes from angūr; which is originally Parsi language انگور.

  • @thevannmann
    @thevannmann Před 5 lety

    You should do a Cantonese and Vietnamese one using Sino-Vietnamese.

  • @andunandun7681
    @andunandun7681 Před 5 lety

    Advice from me, maybe you can make video lilbit deeper Indonesian traditional language such as sundanese, javanese minangnese compare similarities with others language

  • @joshuaultrainstinct5082
    @joshuaultrainstinct5082 Před 5 lety +4

    Awesome as always :) maybe you can do hummm French Italian or French Greek :)

    • @ripperopz7569
      @ripperopz7569 Před 5 lety +1

      I'm Italian and as I speak both french and Spanish, I can confirm that Italian is closer to French, but it has a lot of similarities with greek, like Okeanos (οκεανος) - Oceano (this means ocean)

    • @joshuaultrainstinct5082
      @joshuaultrainstinct5082 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ripperopz7569 yeah :) I have 3 origins and in those 3 I have Italian too because my grandma is Italian I undersand some words :)

    • @ripperopz7569
      @ripperopz7569 Před 5 lety +1

      @@joshuaultrainstinct5082 Hope you start learning italian, if you already speak a latin language, it will not be so hard for you. Maybe some sounds can be hard because they don't exist in English, but don't be afraid to learn another language. :)

    • @joshuaultrainstinct5082
      @joshuaultrainstinct5082 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ripperopz7569 yeah I speak French it can be easy for me to learn Italian and thanks :)

    • @petaniketjil5282
      @petaniketjil5282 Před 5 lety +2

      French and Bahasa, a lot of words in Bahasa indonesia has same pronounciation (and meaning) in french

  • @Hadamean
    @Hadamean Před 5 lety +17

    I failed to identify any of those cantonese and mandarin words... :doh:
    Wow, Firman is good... 👍👍👍👍

    • @detaalciardiansyah6912
      @detaalciardiansyah6912 Před 5 lety

      I am agree with you ... Because , I felt the same things like you ... I felt fail for identifying many of words in this Video ... O M G ...

    • @Hadamean
      @Hadamean Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah, in the previous episodes involving Bahasa Indonesia, at least I could figure out several words but not this one, totally blank... :doh:

    • @detaalciardiansyah6912
      @detaalciardiansyah6912 Před 5 lety

      These Words' (more) closer used on Malaysia (Malay Language) than on Indonesia (Bahasa Indonesia/Indonesia Language) ... That's I think on my mind ... :-)

  • @georgiusagricola4720
    @georgiusagricola4720 Před 5 lety +1

    The counterpart of 'kongsi' in Chinese is 公司/kung si/ actually, meaning firm/company.

  • @suryahermansjah3317
    @suryahermansjah3317 Před 5 lety +2

    Interesting video!
    Firman did quite well too..I suppose he's no of Chinese ethnicity which means he understands a lot of Indonesian loan words.
    Ang Ciu (red wine) and teh both are loaned of Hokkian (Min Nan) dialect.
    I've just realized that lobak (raddish) is probably loan word too from the Canton dialect.

    • @faustinuskaryadi6610
      @faustinuskaryadi6610 Před 3 lety

      Or just because both Hokkien and Cantonese share exact same word for raddish, but still Indonesian lobak came from Hokkien.
      Even Mandarin word for raddish is 萝卜(luo bo) sound close enough to Indonesian Lo bak.