Restoring a 100 Year-Old Chisel
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Hopefully I've done the legacy of this chisel justice!
As I say, you can use sandpaper for all the processes I do here if you're on a budget. I'd recommend a honing guide of some sort but if you have accuracy then go nuts without one.
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There is nothing wrong with using linseed oil on oak. Th main reason not to, has to do with colour -as raw linseed oil makes oak very yellow (something you usually would avoid when working with oak) The drying time mentioned in other comments really is the same on oak as other similarly grained woods -absurdly long, as raw linseed oil takes up to months drying completely. Therefore you would normally use polymerized or “boiled” linseed oil. Where the polymerized oil is made by heating the oil in an oxygen free environment. Thereby starting the polymerising of the oil -thickening the oil and shortening the drying time. And Boiled linseed oil is made with adding metal salts as drying agents and solvents (typically turpentine) to decrease viscosity (boiled linseed oil, is also the most reactive of the two. So beware of drying rags. So think of raw linseed oil as a component in finishes such as paints and varnishes, not a “complete” finishing solution.
Hope this helps. Best regards from a former cabinetmaker, now knife builder from Denmark
That explains why an old file that I inherited from my father has that very yellow finish.
Thank you so much for the intel! Glad you helped not just me but everyone else who came here. Thank you :)
I’m glad to be of any help. Keep up the great content!
Only use raw linseed oil on traditional old willow cricket bats!
@@DaisyTempest metals in boiled linseed could react with tannins which is probably the reason for the "no oak" alao probably very unlikely to be an issue, have a hook in the bottom of a rake that's gone wonderfully black
That's the original handle (classic Marples shape) and it's made from Ash. As others have said, Linseed Oil is fine to use on Oak. Keep up the good work!👍🤩
Glad you said it. i was getting a bit touretty watching the vid.
For things like cleaning out that makers mark, I like to cut the end off a bamboo skewer with wire cutters or something that will compress and fray the cut end. It gives you a nice very stiff brush-like tool that you can use like a pencil eraser,. When it wears and softens, you can just cut it down a bit and keep going. Soft enough to keep from harming the piece you're working on, and hard enough to dig out even the most stubborn of buildup.
Great tip! Thanks!
That is a great tip.
Hi, 60 years ago I was an apprentice at Vauxhall motors as a pattern maker. I still have my toolbox full of the chisels and turning tools used for my job. Some of the tools I have I acquired from retiring workers. This making some of the tools up to 200 years old! Every so often I check that they are in good order. Also when I learnt my trade, everything was done by hand, no modern equipment.
Enjoy, Dave r.
You must have had access to some great-quality mahogany in those days.
@@hughmac13 Hi, yes we did, first quality Honduras Mahogany, and Yellow Pine. All naturally seasoned, not kiln dried as now. For model making of new car 'bucks' we used a laminated timber called Stabelite. It was made from pulp timber from jungle swamps, and when seasoned and sealed, with varnish, was guaranteed not to move more than one thousandth of an inch. That's old measurements not metric!
@@Davidrollings-zr7bh That's right-you just do not want to be carving in kiln-dried woods if you have a care for your tool edges or the comfort of your hands and wrists.
You were making the patterns for the engine castings? What are the "bucks"? Did the Stabelite carve well? I've wanted to learn about casting but haven't had a chance to get into it. I know there are cores and coreboxes and draft angles but that's it.
Hi, it's good you are interested in, what I call older trades.
You are talking about two different types of pattern/model making. The first, using traditional timbers was indeed used to make patterns for engine blocks, gar box casings and axle casing. And if fact in many other parts of engineering. Most patterns were made to contraction size, not imperial measurement, as castings contract on cooling. Examples are 1/120, for aluminium, and 1/60 for cast iron. All pattern where build with a small taper to allow them to be removed from the sand in the foundry. Also there were cores to the patterns that could be removed to allow for holes, rebates etc.
The second part, using Stabalite for new car bucks, basically was a complete model of a new car. When I was at vauxhall I worked on the HB Viva, Fc Victor, as well as Bedford commercial vehicles. In short when the model was complete, either plaster casts, or fibre glass mould were taken from the buck, and ultimately made into dies for the press shop, to make the panels.
Stability was a very hard materiel and I remember alway sharpening any tools used.
Final point, most patterns for the dies, were made from polystyrene!
Hope this helps a bit?
Dave r.
@@Davidrollings-zr7bh I've seen some good videos on CZcams channels focused on casting or that feature casting as part of projects.
I think it's interesting on its own, but as a cabinetmaker I had a wish to restore and build tools, which would necessitate casting in some cases. So my interest was in smaller pieces cast probably in bronze for the most part.
I've seen foam used in some of those videos. I've also seen patterns that were 3D printed, which seems like an amazing way to create intricate shapes, and very rapidly. The part about patternmaking and casting that's so tricky to me is learning to see the negative of the object. It seems like something that takes practice because it doesn't come naturally to me at all.
Love this video. I understand your hesitation. I'm a librarian and at one time considered becoming a conservator, but the job is literally "here's something priceless, a bottle of acid and a q-tip, get to work".
I had always gotten someone else to sharpen my chisels, on the rare occasions I used one. Someone then gifted me a Richard Kell honing guide. It not only transformed my ability to be able to sharpen them as often as you are supposed to and therefore how often I could use them in the best condition, it also enabled me to re-profile and sharpen the others that I thought were in a condition beyond use.
Shellac is also a decent finishing solution for old tools. Feels good in the hand, easy to touch up, but does change the colour depending on the darkness of the shellac
40+ years ago I inherited about a dozen lathe chisels from my great uncle; they're about the same age as your grandmother's. As I still don't have a lathe, they're simply sitting or rather hanging in my tool cabinet. It's comforting to know that I'll be passing these along to my son who will eventually get a lathe and restore them as you have done. Family heritage is a nice thing to have. Good job and have fun in Austin. I have a good friend who is also a great woodworker who lives there and I'd love to get the two of you together. She has a musical background, too. Travel well.
This is lovely! Thank you for the comment. Good luck to your son for the restoration :)
Buy him a mini lathe, Grant!
Fun project. I'm sure your great grandmother would love to know that someone in the family was still using her tools!
If I may be so brazen Daisy. When I was cleaning up a batch of chisels I used coarse wet dry sand paper to do the majority of the work. You can put them right on your existing stones and take of a lot of material quickly then go to your stones. Add water to the paper to help remove swarth.
You’re amazing! I love old tools and restoring old treasures, bonus you’re a pretty girl with an English accent. Couldn’t make a more perfect video! ❤
Great video Daisy. These little side "excursions" are enjoyable to watch.
Thank you
I have a few tools that were my father's, small pair of vise grips, hacksaw, and small ball pen hammer. He passed last year.
That's great that you now have and are using it in your shop
What a credit you are to your grandparents and what a great way to honour them. Really informative too.
I use Linseed oil on all my children's and grand children's oak furniture. You're perfectly fine. Love your channel.
You can use just wet-dry sandpaper at lower grit and work up to your diamond stone. Boiled linseed oil means it has metallic dryers in it to speed up drying. The metal can react with the oak tannins and darken it. Oak and chestnut just happen to have a lager amount of these acids. I suggest using a Pure tung oil. No dryers and will take about a week to fully dry but wont be tacky during that time.
I've used linseed oil on oak before it just takes a few coats to get the look you want.
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All the best to you from rural Portugal - love what you do even though I am ham-fisted & totally non-musical!
Steve
Great to know! Thank you!
I have used oils a lot over the years. Particularly BLO, Tung Oil and Walnut Oil. I have found that using solvents (citrus oil, pine oil) accelerates the adsorption of the ”cut” oils into denser woods. I have also used Japan Drier to speed up the process as well. A lot of tools that I have purchased have laquered handles so my first job when I get them in the shop is to strip that off and replace it with multiple coats of oil.
Your words are so poetic. Great video!
So woodworking really runs in the family. So cool! It's a nice feeling to discover our ancestors had similar interests as we do. Kind of a bonding experience, though we can no longer meet the person.
Reinvigorating old tools is brilliant. Probably half of mine belonged to my grandfather. The ones I am responsible for are the higher tech ones, like the CNC I built. It started life barely able to cut MDF, and now it is fine with steel.
Nice work. I have a number of old Sheffield chisels that I've restored pretty much the same way (except that I finish on waterstones), but having your great grandmother's is extra special.
If only ""smell a vision"" would be a thing, woodworking shops always smell so nice. Much respect for your skills, I was trained to be a machinist so I understand how secure one must be. Woodworking is such a great skill to have, but creating musical instruments is IMHO next-level. I raked guitars in my lifetime and fiddled around trying to improve action, tone, etc. but when I did that( needed to adjust it for thinner strings) , I thought I killed that guitar. Eventually, after months of research and trial and error, I brought that guitar (an Epiphone LesPaul ""something-something"") back to life and it was so much better than when I started, but I promised myself I never ever try that again.
What you do takes so much skill, knowledge, and expertise.
You did a great job. It was fun and inspiring to watch. And thanks for the scammer warning, I have been pestered with those on other channels.
This is a guess about oak and linseed oil, but maybe the concern is that oil which soaks deeply into the pores will never cure since it's cut off from oxygen, and so maybe the piece would continually seep with uncured oil afterwards? But since that piece has been previously finished, I think you're right that the pores are likely to be well sealed already. Any linseed on the surface should cure just fine.
Hi Daisy, Rustins danish oil is brill... great for oak kitchen worktops or even sealing guitars against moisture. All the best...x
Nice to see a Sheffield Marples chisel, as opposed to MiC. I still have a couple from my apprentice days (40+ yrs joiner), as well as some others I've picked up on the bay of various brands. I have a rosewood (I think) Marples mortice gauge that dates to the late 1800's with the original joiners initials stamped on.
Glad to see you carrying on the family legacy! Love the history behind the tool too.
Lovely stuff. Been a carpenter for over 30 years (mostly site work, but furniture too). I've restored a few things but definitely get impatient and definitely don't get anything like as fine a cutting edge as you do. Been wanting to get into sewing and recently restored a pair of old, battered Wilkinson dress making scissors, which was a love-hate process, but pleasing in the end.
Don't doubt your identification of oak (and being porous I would have thought the boiled linseed oil would just soak in loads so you'd have to do a gazillion coats. Certainly not going to harm it.) but from my understanding, most traditional tool handles were made from ash. Also porous, but less so than oak.
Mark in Scotland.
Yes I think you're right Mark, ash or beech would be my thought, though ash can look like oak in the right light
I've used linseed oil on my oak knife handles loads of times and it's never been a problem. Quite often needs a few extra applications as it seems to absorb a lot of it though.
heirloom tools have so much charm
You look so much like you great grandmother, great vid and love the chisel :-)
Love it. Using the tools of our ancestors or restoring them is the best way to honor them.
Nicely done Daisy! Restoring a treasured hand me down is always a good thing! 👍👍💖💖
Loved this. I recently found my Grandfather’s #5 jack plane. It was in dreadful condition. But after doing a restoration similar to yours, it is a beast!
I usually use a BLO/meths/turps mix a third of each one with 0000 steel wool for restoring old chisel handles, it cleans them without removing any patina or damaging them, that might have saved you some work with the dental tools.
Great video, white vinegar makes a good rust cutter...when I'm restoring an old Stanley plane I'll pour some in a small plastic tub and soak the rusty parts for a day or two. Totally benign to work with, just make sure to rinse the steel well as the acid will promote rust as well as remove it;). Also, no need to flatten the entire back of the chisel, other than for aesthetic reasons. Even a half inch will do for good function, and sometimes the amount of cup or bow in an old blade will take FOREVER to flatten. Keep the videos coming!
Hola Daisy!! Sin duda Robin tiene un gran futuro. Quedo como nuevo el cincel, gran trabajó. Saludos desde Argentina.
Linseed oil rags can spontaneously start burning, so be careful where to put dirty rags.
Really beautiful work, Daisy! 😊
And don't worry, woodworkers all around the world use BLO on oak.
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
If you ever need to clean up, repair, or even create, finely carved details again, look into gunstock carving tools. In particular, checkering tools
What a wholesome find this channel was...
I did this with my neighbour's old chisel a while ago - using the same faithful 400 grit stones - so i feel your pain...
Lovely to restore a piece of family history like this. Great video!
This is really inspiring, I love knowing other people care for old tools.
Fascinating. Beautiful restoration of a great heirloom.
Daisy that's a fine bit of family heritage kit you have there and now ready for service for another hundred years. Make sure your children know it's there and how important that tool is. Awesome job and thank you for sharing!
Always a pleasure to watch one of your videos and note the care and attention you put into everything. I'm sure the oil on the chisel will be fine given the years it has had to dry out and close the grains .
Something I've been wanting to get is a nice chisel set as well as some quality whetstones and a strop. I rely on power tools a lot and have totally neglected my carving abilities, just finished my second bass though and I'm very happy with it.
Child labour ftw! Thanks for sharing, nice work!
Great video! Love the story behind the tools and keeping your heritage alive.
What a fun project! One tip I got for sharpening dulled chisels is that you don't have to flatten the WHOLE back - just the last inch or so that comes up to the tip - which can save a lot of time. Apologies if someone else already commented that - too many comments to sift through!
A fantastic tutorial on refurbishing a wonderful tool
@Daisy Tempest - My understanding is that using linseed oil on Oak is not suggested because it soaks way in and then it takes too long to dry which can allow mold to form on the uncured oil. Humidity and moisture would exacerbate the issue. Since the wood in question was already finished once, the new oil probably wasn't able to soak that far in. I would store that handle in a nice warm dry place. Boiled linseed dries faster. I've done 4-5 guitars and necks with the stuff, feels good and is pretty durable. Easy to fix/patch/repair too.
great video and great chisel
It'll be fine. Nice work!
I did enjoy your video. I wouldn’t be too concerned about the linseed oil. I enjoy your work and learning about guitar building. You also present yourself as personable and fun, good qualities.
Thanks for the kind comment!
Worth all the work 👍
Beautiful work!
wonderful video! So many nice pieces of humanity in here: you doing very similar work as generations past, your cousin providing an advertisement we all watched through, and the care and dedication to maintaining craftsmanship - something so many have lost in our current society. Thank you.
Such a lovely video!
Restaurado cinzel 🪛😉
Got the message - sorry I do not know what that -gram is. I thought you did a great video and saved a very special chisel. As wood workers, our most proud moments, are when we bring a 100+ year old tool back to a working life
What a lovely video, I also have lots of Marples chisels that were my Grandfathers, I'm now in my 60s so they are very old, such good Sheffield steel, keep their edge for ages. I stopped putting a secondary bevel on a couple of years back with no apparent drawback that I have noticed, saves a lot of time! All my (many) chisels are now honed at 30dgrs. Travel safe and be lucky
You did a great job on the chisel. I love restoring old hand tools. I find it very rewarding. Keep up the good work. Love your videos.
Sandpaper on the tablesaw gets the back roughed in flat quickly. Just make sure the table is glue, bump and burr free.
09:15 - 09:38 : After listening to that section, I'd definitely love to see you do woodwork ASMR videos with this chisel. Who's with me 😅?
Anyway, great job, Daisy!
I really enjoyed this episode. Thanks so much!
I have restored many old hand tools over the years and they continue to inspire me whenever I use one of them.
Kudos to you!
Be cautious about the disposal of your rag/towel that you used to apply the boiled linseed oil. They can and have spontaneously combusted and a fire would be devastating. Best practice I've seen is to burn them (if possible) after you use them. Stay safe, and thanks for the awesome content!
Omg don’t even!- SO so terrified of this happening 😂
@@DaisyTempest Evening Englander , artist here... I put mine in a coffee can outdoors , scared me too... Peace to you ...
I totally burn my too immediately upon finishing with them!! I thought I was the only one doing this. 🤟🏽
I put the oil cloths in a metal container with a metal lid and seal it tightly. When they become hard, you can throw them in the rubbish.
Well done!
Wouldn't have thought to touch the precious handle that your relatives had held on to. Sharpening the blade absolutely! Using it? 1,000,000%!! But not my channel nor my chisel. I honestly watch most of your videos in the early morning because you're so chill. You bring me peace into an already very peaceful life. Thank you.
Might want to look into gun restoration, like Mark Novak does. They really know what they are talking about, since there is so much money in old guns.
Nice to see Lindsey Doyle doing the rounds, very enjoyable video, beautifully restored.
Not me nearly doing your accent every time I think about Lindsay Doyle
The red/black oaks are very open pored, which is why you don't see any wine or whiskey barrels made from it. Split a billet of red oak and stick it in a bucket of water, and you can blow bubbles out the end. You can't do this with white oak. Biggest problem I can see with the open pores of some woods would be bleed out where you get little puddles/spots of oil that bleed out as the oil cures. You can use an air hose to blow out the pores before the oil cures, or you can wait till it dries and hit it with steel wool.
As for dental picks, next time you see your dentist, ask them. They do have drawers full of them that they don't/won't/can't use any more.
Really enjoyed this! Keep em coming Daisy 🙂
Thank you!
I have my Dad's handplane and I feel the same way about it as you do about the chisel. Wonderful video.
Boiled linseed oil is marvelous stuff. Thinned with turpentine, it is great for cleaning, refinishing, and rejuvenating wood. The rags can combust unless you soak them in water, but it's safe otherwise. It can make oak turn yellow (raw linseed oil is worse for this) but if you rub an old finish with fine steel wool and a 4:1 linseed turpentine mix, the old finish will re-emulsify.
😮😮 Love the final result. That chisel will work perfectly shaping wood other 100 years.
I love your beautiful accent too.
Daisy, thanks to your patience, your Great Grand Parents will be looking down and shining upon you after restoring that beautiful chisel, may it give you long and fruitful service, perfect!
Amazing work on the fine details of the maker's mark, and name carving in the handle!
I love that you plan to use the chisel in the workshop 👍
a chisel made by your gt. grandmother... what a wonderful thing to have! All i have from my gt. grandmother is a washing dolly, which i use as a loo roll holder :)
Linseed oil is just fine on oak. James Wright of WoodByWright uses that all the time.
Very nicely done Dasiy, loved your test passes, truly steady hands. 😍
Glad you enjoyed it!
2:30 You can get one of those cheep vibrating platforms and put that block on it. Then just hold the blade on top. Makes it like an inverted sander but, not.
Very nicely done. Just came across your channel and subbed.
More info metalworking and machining myself but I do dabble a little in woodworking and always loved it.
You did a great job sharpening and restoring that chisel. Looks really nice now.
White oak is not porous, that’s why it works so well for whiskey and wine barrels. I believe English and French oak are white oaks.
Love your video from here in Cincinnati!
Inspiring content, as always!
Great work! I love restoring hand-me-down tools by hand. The tool has more meaning when you use it later.
A tip when you have a lot of sanding to do on chisels and the like is to not put excessive force on one side. It's really easy to take off more material from one side and never notice.
Yup, thought that was spam...Appreciate you taking the time to police the channel.
I love chisels, love honing thrm
Great work old is better steal great job !!
My own $0.02 is that I personally greatly prefer Tung Oil over linseed oil for wood finishing. Tung oil dries clearer, with less of a yellow tone, and ultimately gives a harder, more durable finish. Pure tung oil is safe for food surfaces, and my preferred oil finish, though it does take a long time to fully dry / cure. Multiple coats of tung oil really bring out the grain with a wonderful depth and feel. Tung oil is plant-based and has been used for wood finishing in Asia for centuries. Note that "Tung Oil Finish", which is often more easily found in local hardware stores, is not pure tung oil but, like Boiled Linseed Oil, contains other ingredients and solvents that can make it easier and quicker to work with, but may or may not result in a food-safe surface and the final 'look and feel' is different. So be aware of the difference when purchasing.
Nicely done! With a little love and periodic maintenance, it should easily last another hundred years.
No harm no foul on the BLO. If it yellows, and that bothers, can slightly tint subsequent finishes. I go with a mix of spar varnish and polymerized linseed oil. Can thin with mineral spirits, but I just rub it on tool handles as is. A few drops of gunstock colored minwax brings out grain and slight warm color in almost any wood. For a no-harsh-chemical option, way back in the day, they used just beeswax with no issues whether on axes or chisels. YMMV. no warranties, express or implied...
That's neat that she was a wood worker too. She would be proud of you. Fo Shizzle 😊
What a lovely heritage to have! I've never heard of BLO being a problem on oak, James Wright aka wood by wright uses it all the time on everything. I've just started using it and it gives a lovely feel. For an initial sharpening I believe axminster still offer a sharpening service or as you suggested a cheap honing guide with 240 grit sandpaper on either a piece of float glass, smooth granite table mat (as long as any reflection looks smooth) or even MDF or ply.
I use tongue oil on oak all the time with no ill effects. Thinking linseed oil is similar. Nice clean up job. Love that you have a reverence for old tools
Brilliant and respectful. Be careful of rags with linseed oil on them; they may spontaneously ignite. When linseed oil-soaked rags are left to dry, the oil oxidizes and generates heat. If this heat is trapped, as in a pile of rags, the temperature can rise enough to cause the rags to ignite on their own without any external flame.
For the delicate carvings on the wood, I've found a stiff, nylon bristle brush to be effective and safe. Also, it looks like your diamond stones haven't been cleaned in a while, which will diminish their cutting power. Dishwashing liquid, hot water, and a stiff toothbrush or non-abrasive scotch-brite pad or a sponge with a scouring pad backing.