3.23 Splitting Steel - Champion vs Trickster build comparison/showcase

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
  • Thanks for watching! POBs for both:
    Champion PoB: pobb.in/pE_siJ61iA_K
    Champion Budget: ~300-350 Divines
    Trickster PoB: pobb.in/-BuYqE8aN5ur
    Trickster Budget: 600-700+ Divines (including Mageblood)
    Check out my stream at www.twitch.tv/ZishPOE
    00:00-04:15 Champion Overview
    04:15-05:30 Champion Showcase
    05:30-07:00 Champion Details
    07:00-07:30 Swapping Builds
    07:30-13:30 Trickster Overview
    13:30-14:30 Trickster Showcase
    14:30-15:00 Thanks for Watching!
  • Hry

Komentáře • 91

  • @zockrocker123
    @zockrocker123 Před 4 měsíci +1

    How do I craft the Body Armour for Champ? My only idea would be to slam shrieking loathing essences until I get good res and spell supression and then go with a aisling. But this is like complete rng so i guess there is another way?
    Hitting good res and supression with the essence alone seems to be really unlikely and then you also have to hit the right aisling mod. Some advice here would be cool

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci +2

      exactly, loathing until suppression -> veiled chaos orb - you dont need to aisling unless you have a prefix you want to save, that will make the craft WAY more expensive.

  • @CryptoAltair7
    @CryptoAltair7 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The build still works as it did before the patch mate?

  • @asapBreeZy
    @asapBreeZy Před 4 měsíci

    What’s the best way to make the trickster chest? Unfortunately there’s not a good suppression fracture available on console atm. I have a t1 flat ev/es fracture tho, I’ve used hundreds of dense fossils trying to hit t1 int and t1/t2 supp but been extremely unlucky and now I feel like I should have been spamming spite essences until I hit suppression, then locked and reforged or eld currencied it. Essences then?
    Also, your opinion on using atziris reflection vs a rare shield?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      Since you want a crafted prefix you only need to hit 2 prefixes, so I think doing suffixes first is better. I used Int essences looking for suppression

  • @zaczac343
    @zaczac343 Před 2 měsíci

    I had been planning to go splitting steel this league because I love boss rushing and farming ubers, but I've seen you're recommending not going SS this league because of the various nerfs... Do you have something else you'd recommend that fits into the same sort of niche as splitting steel?

    • @nguyentri3608
      @nguyentri3608 Před 2 měsíci

      Rue said it's a loss of 20%...from 100m+ DPS. Take of that what you will

  • @mohamedfox23
    @mohamedfox23 Před 2 měsíci

    hey do you recommend it for the new league? is a budget version of this build viable?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 2 měsíci

      Trickster version was never a league starter, and the Snipers Mark nerfs hit hard, so probably not....

  • @stefangames277
    @stefangames277 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi! on Champion Build, is Mandatory "That which was taken Crimson Jewel" ? bcs is 90 divines on market , and i wanna know if is Mandatory to buy or nah. thank you!^^

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Nope not mandatory, just flexibility

    • @stefangames277
      @stefangames277 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ZishPOE thank you!

  • @Hawkotelli
    @Hawkotelli Před 4 měsíci

    could you incorporate a mageblood on the champion or is the perseverance too good

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci +1

      You could but I'm not sure you should....perseverance is extremely strong. Could be worth experimenting with if you wanted to really push the champion version

  • @Umbracraft
    @Umbracraft Před 2 měsíci

    love your builds, played fb last 3 leagues.
    Just picking up necropolis now but i was wondering if its possible to league start splitting steel trickster?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 2 měsíci

      apparently so, yes

    • @Umbracraft
      @Umbracraft Před 2 měsíci

      @@ZishPOE gave it a shot, but im wishing i just did FB instead at low red maps now

  • @Piotrekx3
    @Piotrekx3 Před 4 měsíci

    Can I use fire res fractured on shield and focus on max fire res? Seems cheaper than lightning

  • @TheBartogo
    @TheBartogo Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hey how can u use haste while at 90 mana only ? i think it costs like 130 per use

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      I explain that in the video

    • @TheBartogo
      @TheBartogo Před 4 měsíci

      Ah i missed the jewel with 5% everything';s clear thx :)
      @@ZishPOE

  • @rellify3
    @rellify3 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm very interested in the trickster version but I'm not very familiar with ES gear crafting. Have any good resources for the rares used?

    • @suddha1
      @suddha1 Před 4 měsíci

      Don't do it bro his gear is past mirror now it's amazing to play but gl trying to reach even half that without spending hundreds of divs.

    • @rellify3
      @rellify3 Před 4 měsíci

      @@suddha1I have mage blood plus like 500d, is it worth it on that budget?

    • @diegogarber1
      @diegogarber1 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@rellify3 there's a lot of cost on the bases... but, if you've never crafted it before, it's probably not the best build for you. With a step by step guide you could do it without problem, but if you are like me, you'll mess some things up the first time you try them (that's normal :) ) like the iLvl of the bases or which fractured thing to buy, etc. I'd go for something that's half the price of your budget, not 200d over (makes sense?) so it gives you room for errors and learning to craft that gear
      honestly i spent less $ on my immortal armor stacker with 70Mdps. It's a matter of learning and making it again :)
      On the other hand, if you already have MB + 500d cash, you know how to play the game, so you'll be fine either way xD

    • @rellify3
      @rellify3 Před 4 měsíci

      I'm going for the champ version I think, I understand how I'd craft those rares and it's more in the budget. Thanks for the insight!@@diegogarber1

    • @Captain-qv8yu
      @Captain-qv8yu Před 4 měsíci

      @@diegogarber1 or you can just go to craftofexile emulator and "craft" there as many times as you need until you feel confident enough to repeat it in the game.

  • @zachkoa
    @zachkoa Před 2 měsíci

    awesome showcase man. excited to play splitting steel for the firs time in necropolis league. im guessing its better to league start with the champion version?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 2 měsíci +1

      splitting steel took a huge nerf with the snipers mark nerf...but yes you cant start the trickster version

    • @zachkoa
      @zachkoa Před 2 měsíci

      @@ZishPOE ooof how big of a nerf are we talking?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@zachkoa significant - 4 proj down to 2 means almost half damage gone

    • @zachkoa
      @zachkoa Před 2 měsíci

      @@ZishPOE sheesh x.x what a bummer. might need to find a new league starter :/ thanks for the replies my guy!

    • @avgustine_iw
      @avgustine_iw Před 2 měsíci +2

      I wouldn’t say it’s half damage gone, because you’ve gone from 11 proj (5 base + 1 tree + 5 mark) to 8 which is still a lot, given we don’t need as much damage in necropolis compared to affliction juice.

  • @chrisdahl480
    @chrisdahl480 Před 4 měsíci

    Hi Zish, love your builds. I imported the PoB on the trickster, and it has 129 passives, care to fix, or like, explain? :) kr - Divine_orb

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      Pob sometimes can't tell which cluster jewel points you actually have, the extras are probably there.

    • @chrisdahl480
      @chrisdahl480 Před 4 měsíci

      aha thank you kindly!
      @@ZishPOE

  • @dimitarangelkovski9877
    @dimitarangelkovski9877 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Trickster and necro is just the 2 best ascendancies in the game

  • @NhuQuynh-nv7fp
    @NhuQuynh-nv7fp Před 4 měsíci

    I’m having resistance issue on the Champ 😮

  • @pedrobrailovsky5382
    @pedrobrailovsky5382 Před 4 měsíci

    Is it worth it dropping a headhunter on the campion build?

  • @JJ-js3sw
    @JJ-js3sw Před 2 měsíci

    Is the trickster version viable without a mageblood?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 2 měsíci

      I dunno I wouldnt play it, but everyone has their own definitions of "viable". Build took big nerfs to snipers mark and mana cost flask/jewels.

  • @parmvirrai7996
    @parmvirrai7996 Před 4 měsíci

    i noticed you're not using maji like steel does is warden better you think?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      Everyone has different definitions of "better" - you can go that route if you want to not use your chest sockets to get more ES from it.

    • @parmvirrai7996
      @parmvirrai7996 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ZishPOE which version does more damage?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      @@parmvirrai7996 I cant say for sure - the charm version is immortal and shreds ubers, so its good enough for me

    • @parmvirrai7996
      @parmvirrai7996 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ZishPOE awesome thanks for the videos.

  • @diegogarber1
    @diegogarber1 Před 4 měsíci

    what's the estimate of how many of these hit in single target?
    is it worth it without nimis? (Not that Nimis is that expensive, I just want to understand the build better :) )

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      You must use Nimis or Returning Proj - they shotgun, the build would be pretty bad without it

  • @snatcher81
    @snatcher81 Před 4 měsíci

    Since im a complete idiot, what is the most optimal pantheon?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I run Solaris + Abberath on almost every character

  • @jimmyjohnsson4788
    @jimmyjohnsson4788 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You my good sir, is a one square gamer, missing chaos res, Wen Bingo? // Ixxen 🤣

  • @azadvertised
    @azadvertised Před 4 měsíci +1

    Awesome build. Only just switched from the Champion version to Trickster and survivability is the most I have probably ever had. Can suggest going double dark marionette for permanent uptime on haste aura instead of Divine Blessing. Same number of gem slots but no need to remember to press aura once you stagger the death of 1 marionette (essentially the aura never goes off because one of them is still alive wile the other is respawning).

    • @Shanopla
      @Shanopla Před 4 měsíci

      Nice to hear someone liked it. Perhaps I can seek your advice! I am at 400 div saved and am a slow gamer maybe 1-2 hours per night, should I just go champ and do you think champ is still in the budget mentioned here from a week ago lol?

    • @azadvertised
      @azadvertised Před 4 měsíci

      @@Shanopla Definitely recommend going champ as you can definitely get most (if not all of what you need to get it going with that budget). If you are looking to min/max or pick up some upgrades, it would definitely start to chunk quite a fair bit as the league inflation is wild atm.

    • @Shanopla
      @Shanopla Před 4 měsíci

      Awesome thank you my friend and you are so right about inflation. It is wisps or bust this league lol
      @@azadvertised

  • @taylorcummins6114
    @taylorcummins6114 Před 3 měsíci

    Can you league start with this build?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 3 měsíci

      Champion yes, Trickster no

  • @danielmitchell671
    @danielmitchell671 Před 4 měsíci

    can you explain the adrenaline tech, is there a a perfect number of life to be at to make it work? and how to make cf cost the right amount of life?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci +1

      With Lifetap added (300% cost multiplier), the CF costs 1560 life - with Precision on Arrogance, if your life is below 3120 it will auto-proc your Adrenaline whenever you CF. I have ~3000 life, so it works great.

    • @danielmitchell671
      @danielmitchell671 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ZishPOE ah i see. i slowed down the clip to see what life u drop too but i think ur regen was too much as it didnt show going to low life, thanks heaps dude

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      @@danielmitchell671 The Adrenaline procs instantly so your life goes down to low-life but then instantly goes back up, you dont actually see the life going down

  • @EngMohamedAbdallahBR
    @EngMohamedAbdallahBR Před 4 měsíci

    Hey, the pob link provided has only lvl 94 character tree, also the first weapon is missing a gem in the item skills section. could you please update?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci

      You can play the build at level 94 and there are flexible gem sockets...

  • @jviii3086
    @jviii3086 Před 4 měsíci

    No deadeye tho 😢

  • @loveandhate2742
    @loveandhate2742 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Amazing video. Do you think Splitting Steel trickster could be possibly a starter?

    • @TheEternalVortex42
      @TheEternalVortex42 Před 5 měsíci +2

      lol the video literally discusses how it's extremely expensive and that's your question?

    • @loveandhate2742
      @loveandhate2742 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@TheEternalVortex42 yes... you can always do league starter variant.. question is if its effiecient. for example bladetrap costs also 200 div+ for ubers but its good leaguestarter

    • @artursz2
      @artursz2 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You can always leaguestart Frost Blades end endgame with SS. FB is still amazing and easy to craft.

    • @leobigsad
      @leobigsad Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@loveandhate2742 blade trap is not a good league starter, wtf are you on

    • @elantonelle
      @elantonelle Před 5 měsíci

      It could but its bad

  • @Pedram_Aphotic
    @Pedram_Aphotic Před měsícem

    can we get your take on Trickster in this league?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před měsícem

      worse than last league but still strong

    • @Pedram_Aphotic
      @Pedram_Aphotic Před měsícem

      @@ZishPOE send a pob or ninja link that you confirm ?

  • @aliuznoratiuz
    @aliuznoratiuz Před 2 měsíci

    You are using AMD GPU right? looks much more granulated image.

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 2 měsíci

      probably just because i capture at 720p for stream stability - my performance is great imo

  • @TomCat-zo5ig
    @TomCat-zo5ig Před 4 měsíci

    8k wisp no problem?

  • @saifer21
    @saifer21 Před 4 měsíci

    Can you league start with Trickster?

    • @ZishPOE
      @ZishPOE  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Probably not on this build, it would be so different it wouldnt even be the same build

  • @lameristotel
    @lameristotel Před 4 měsíci +9

    This league the real benchmark for good builds is 10k wisps not Minotaur lol

    • @Hooga89
      @Hooga89 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That's a funny joke because there's no reason to even do wisping if you aren't mf in the first place.

    • @lameristotel
      @lameristotel Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Hooga89 Sure, the thing is i made a splitting steel champ that is able to do ubers but still manages to suck both on single target and survivability in maps like 8-12k wisps juiced. Not to mention those valdo box maps

    • @vajguy
      @vajguy Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@Hooga89 that's not true, you still find good stuff without MF. Wisps are like 80% of it.

    • @Hooga89
      @Hooga89 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@vajguy >you still find
      That doesn't make it worth doing without MF.

    • @vajguy
      @vajguy Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@Hooga89 it's worth it. I'm a casual player and the amount of raw divines for doing wisp and no mf, is like 1000% diff from previous leagues. If you get 5k wisp, spread amongst two diff color of wisp, that's almost 1 guaranteed divine drop. Don't quote me on that, but that's what it feels like. So def still worth doing wisp without mf.

  • @method9312211
    @method9312211 Před 5 měsíci +2

    When you see the Champion outfit looking like homeless guy and the Trickster looks like the fcking Elon Musk then you already know which is the better class, no? :D