Where NZ Pink Timber is Made // Red Stag Timber

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  • čas přidán 5. 04. 2023
  • We had the privilege of being given a tour of the Red Stag Timber Sawmill, located in Woodhill, New Zealand. It covers an area of over 200 hectares and has an annual production capacity of more than one million cubic meters of sawn timber. The sawmill employs over 300 people and uses state-of-the-art technology to process timber from sustainably managed forests in New Zealand.
    From being put into receivership in the early 2000s, the company has managed to transform itself into the largest sawmill in the southern hemisphere today. We're excited to share this remarkable journey of growth with you and unpack why they are world-class.
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Komentáře • 131

  • @Jon.S
    @Jon.S Před rokem +86

    This efficiency is why timber and building costs in NZ are so reasonable oh wait…

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +8

      haha I love it

    • @bungee7503
      @bungee7503 Před rokem +16

      A friend in Wisconsin, next to Canada where there are a few trees, sent me the price tag for NZ pine sold in his local hardware store. Cheaper than we can buy it for here.

    • @reubs91
      @reubs91 Před rokem

      Cause Australians and New Zealanders are suckers. Western Australia just banned logging…. Apparently the regenerative process was “unsustainable”

    • @kaymish6178
      @kaymish6178 Před rokem +2

      @@bungee7503 Typical.

    • @andrewgoodwin1473
      @andrewgoodwin1473 Před rokem

      ​@@bungee7503 because nzers are paying for the dicounted export pricing so us mugs here pay retail plus 40%!
      Fuk them go steel framing.

  • @lindsayburrows9272
    @lindsayburrows9272 Před rokem +9

    Great watch.
    I love seeing stories like this where the guys running the company actually have some vision of what is going to happen in the future rather than what they need right this second.

  • @grantharvey9511
    @grantharvey9511 Před rokem +6

    Being an ex fitter at redstag, its crazy seing all the gear i used to pull apart and fix on youtube

  • @falatoronto
    @falatoronto Před rokem

    Enjoyed this, thanks for posting.

  • @jansnyman1934
    @jansnyman1934 Před rokem +1

    Great work, good to have Red Stag in Rotorua. Nice to watch.

  • @remiewatkins8032
    @remiewatkins8032 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome stuff thanks

  • @HotForgeChaos
    @HotForgeChaos Před rokem +5

    Since you got to go through Red Stag you might be able to convince them to take you through Timberlab (formerly McIntosh Timber Laminates) up in Auckland, now that Red Stag owns them. My old man currently works for them as their machinist and maintenance fitter, and I worked for them when it was under the old name, when Grant was still alive, and it was a pretty full on factory back then, these days its jam packed with glulam beams. Grant merged the company with Timberbond Ltd. about 7 or 8 years ago, sunk millions into the business and bought new machinery throughout the factory, but after Grant died, his widow sold the company to Red Stag and has been going strong ever since

  • @mattmcrae9513
    @mattmcrae9513 Před rokem

    cool video, thanks Josh

  • @gingerznz5742
    @gingerznz5742 Před rokem

    Great video mate, awesome ad for your business but also interesting content

  • @jessegregoryCREEKSQUAD
    @jessegregoryCREEKSQUAD Před rokem +2

    Hey bro that was awesome 👍 u should do more videos like this, I personally really enjoyed what the video was about, it was very informative and very well filmed/produced and I genuinely enjoyed learning about red stag, never heard of them befour, probably because I'm not a builder but I am from wellington 😅 🇳🇿

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Před rokem

    Impressive and innovative... 🙂

  • @mikiethebikie
    @mikiethebikie Před rokem

    Thanks a lot Josh, that was damn interesting.😊

  • @AS-pk3su
    @AS-pk3su Před rokem +11

    Great video. I love working with timber but I’m now seriously looking to build a tiny house using steel framing. The price of timber in New Zealand is so ridiculously overpriced now, I can not justify its use.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +5

      Cheers A S, I thought the same when building “the section no body wanted” and looked at all the options including SIPS, but standard timber framing was best price point for me, still allowed for upgrades and a method I prefer

  • @ChickinNChips
    @ChickinNChips Před rokem +1

    Thank you very informative and narrated wow awesome showcase of a business :-)

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      cheers chickennchips - it’s cool to show all the aspects of what we’re doing

  • @TheBBQGamer
    @TheBBQGamer Před rokem +1

    Wow impressive video. Please do more stuff like this.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +2

      Thanks - Im keen to do more of these, just need to line up some more factories to visit

  • @deancrow7359
    @deancrow7359 Před rokem +5

    Thanks for sharing the long-term view that Red-stag cleary has.
    The owners know their game is the “Infinite game”

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      you’re right - sustainable timber is an infinite game

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 Před rokem +1

    LOVED the treatment plant at Waipa.

  • @boltonky
    @boltonky Před rokem +2

    Great video and its nice seeing whats going on at home that doesn't always get shown. I would be interested to know the quality difference in timber is between someone like Red Stag and some of the smaller local ones around the place our ITM is shocking considering they do some milling onsite which if your paying similar price quaility can mean alot.
    Thanks :)

  • @bigrobbo75
    @bigrobbo75 Před rokem +1

    Josh , I love the fact that you are very knowedgale about not only the building industry , but how to run a business in general . your rival Scott Brown Carpentry is more on the intricate of the building . I think both channels give a good broad spectrum indeed

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +2

      thanks Rob! I have a lot of respect for Scott, it’s not a competition - plenty of building chat to go around

    • @bigrobbo75
      @bigrobbo75 Před rokem

      @@nzbuilder indeed. I watch both channels on Saturday morning with a cup of tea . Then head off to watch some club rugby, GO MANUREWA !!!

  • @gwm999
    @gwm999 Před rokem

    As a pump guy, I would nerd out on this site. They would have some very impressive pumps, drives motors etc Good video!

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      There was lots there to nerd out on :)

  • @grahamsmyth2973
    @grahamsmyth2973 Před rokem +3

    I was just in New Zealand last week and saw heaps of stockpiles of timber but the way that plant works all round is brilliant 😮

    • @roxannepaul4124
      @roxannepaul4124 Před 10 měsíci

      Covid has impacted supply and demand, however Red Stag is still above the bottom line and steadily recovering with the global market opening back up again... I work here, we were told this at our site meeting 😊

  • @dryweetbix1816
    @dryweetbix1816 Před rokem +1

    Nice content 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      thanks Dry Weetbix - ever tried Vegemite on your bix?

  • @newzealandtrucks
    @newzealandtrucks Před rokem +1

    good video bro =)

  • @TheSonic10160
    @TheSonic10160 Před rokem

    Seems like the only thing they need is a rail connection, the most efficient and sustainable way to move goods around.
    Just as well the Rotorua branchline still exists, even in somewhat dilapidated, mothballed state. Rails on the ground are better than no rails on the ground.
    The trouble would be the last 2 k's to the factory from the current end of line through Rotorua. The old formation, yard, and station site was pulled up, demolished, and sold ages ago. So new track would probably have to street run through some large enough main roads, like they do in Kawakawa .

  • @robertfinai8378
    @robertfinai8378 Před rokem

    Can do something about nog and stud centres based on different types of cladding! Single story!

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 Před rokem +1

    Worked there when it was owned by Fletchers.
    Decent mill.

  • @bradfry2259
    @bradfry2259 Před 11 měsíci

    I've seen a similar set up at kiwi lumber in the wairarapa.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před 8 měsíci

      It would be cool to check them out

  • @sawfiler1958
    @sawfiler1958 Před rokem

    A quad quad, I like that idea.

  • @matthewbryant8849
    @matthewbryant8849 Před rokem +1

    Hey Josh cool vid bruv

  • @pngtuber6163
    @pngtuber6163 Před rokem

    Wow

  • @zporadik5651
    @zporadik5651 Před 18 dny

    Old school NZ advertorial style. Love it.

  • @mikeyandash
    @mikeyandash Před 9 měsíci

    Alots changed since I worked in the mill at taupo

  • @Kolan_Koala
    @Kolan_Koala Před rokem +1

    4:50 "The people behing the sawmill" maybe spelling mistake there. Great video Josh.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      ahh the typo strikes back - thanks for spotting

    • @Kolan_Koala
      @Kolan_Koala Před rokem

      @@nzbuilder mate im from wellington I know the area well, good wishes to your business mate and having a go on youtube best of luck

  • @devondeutsch5668
    @devondeutsch5668 Před rokem +1

    This was the largest. Im pretty sure the largest sawmill in the southern hemisphere is owned by AKD in Australia its the newer version of that USNR line.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      good to know - hopefully I get too check out that one too

  • @noname-nd8ec
    @noname-nd8ec Před rokem +3

    Actually Hyne Tumbarumba NSW has same output as red stag, but both are toothpicks compared to Canadian and European mills..oh and Auckland base hospital is not the biggest in the southern hemisphere either (as kiwis constantly claim) that is Royal North Shore, Sydney, a city with a population of New Zealand.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      nice to know - hopefully I get to check out that one next :)

    • @Alan_Hans__
      @Alan_Hans__ Před rokem

      @@nzbuilder . There's a few mills in Chile and possibly other South American countries with production in the multi million m3 range. The Amazon rainforest provides so much wood to work with it makes all the wood in Aus and NZ look minuscule.

    • @roxannepaul4124
      @roxannepaul4124 Před 10 měsíci +1

      The difference is that Red Stag Timber is a family-owned business - not owned by a big corporation, and it only has the one mill operating... not several across the country.

    • @steveboy7302
      @steveboy7302 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@Alan_Hans__doesn't make australian or nz mills miniscule whatsoever

    • @steveboy7302
      @steveboy7302 Před 8 měsíci

      Lol we're you waiting to say that

  • @berrypainter
    @berrypainter Před rokem

    What is the primary species processed here ?

  • @howgoodisit
    @howgoodisit Před rokem +4

    No questions were asked why the timer prices are still so high...

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      not the purpose of my trip - just interested in how it all works and understanding the process and business

    • @martyverry954
      @martyverry954 Před rokem +1

      @@nzbuilder NZ's logs are the most expensive in the world., mimimum wages up, costs up like everyone else. Steel and concrete have increased by more in recent years.

  • @the_millwright
    @the_millwright Před rokem +3

    I work as a maintenance fitter at a similar sized mill here in Canada. Neat to see how similar it is to operations here.
    Are they hiring?! 😂

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +1

      nice - I’m sure they’re always looking for more likeminded people to join their team. hit them up

    • @martyverry954
      @martyverry954 Před rokem +1

      @@nzbuilder yes, continuously. More shifts going into CLT facility now too.

    • @roxannepaul4124
      @roxannepaul4124 Před 10 měsíci +1

      They are looking for a weekend fitter supervisor actually.

  • @jimmyflinn8718
    @jimmyflinn8718 Před 11 měsíci

    Smart maintenance team wrt reliability

  • @eileenpritchard2721
    @eileenpritchard2721 Před rokem +1

    Well done NZ. Keep it at home.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      That's the plan!

    • @bigboy0625
      @bigboy0625 Před rokem +1

      ​@@nzbuilder haha NZ will sell it overseas where you can pick it up cheaper NZ business love to rob kiwis blind.

  • @coalsauce4457
    @coalsauce4457 Před rokem

    Thays the amazon model that helped them become dominant. They made no profit for a long time because all profits were reinvested so less tax paid, shareholders were aware of their growth and domination plan and it paid off to position them in a absolute market dominant position.

  • @BreakFreeHomestead
    @BreakFreeHomestead Před 5 dny

    Did you say 4x2? 👀

  • @Chip_in
    @Chip_in Před rokem

    Hated working at the mill nearly as bad as a fish factory ⛳

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      cool man sounds like factory’s aren’t your thing - what do you do now?

  • @edwardhunt4883
    @edwardhunt4883 Před rokem +2

    Great idea for a video, can’t help but wonder if they paid you to do this?

    • @huhm413
      @huhm413 Před rokem +1

      why would they pay lol

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +3

      Thanks Edward, it a compliment you think it’s good enough to be paid for.
      Like I say at the end of video, definitely not an ad - just a builder and big kid at heart super interested in the process
      if I’m that way surely others are - hence the video :)

  • @mm5aho
    @mm5aho Před rokem

    Why do you say "up" in Rotorua? Is that place at high alititude?

    • @craigshrimpton5765
      @craigshrimpton5765 Před 15 dny +1

      Higher in latitude.

    • @mm5aho
      @mm5aho Před 15 dny

      @@craigshrimpton5765 I get it, thanks. Further south (greater latitude) is "up".

  • @johnlee-qo3gc
    @johnlee-qo3gc Před rokem +1

    waipa forest not at woodhill, but good stuff

  • @tamatoashort457
    @tamatoashort457 Před rokem +2

    We get the rejects.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      I know the feeling, we discussed this with them anc pretty sure majority of their product actually stays in NZ, sounds like Aussie is a small portion of their output

  • @Tangaroa775
    @Tangaroa775 Před rokem

    So what about the carbon from the furnace?

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      From their website.. "We have recently added a new biomass boiler and steam turbine generator. This allows the site to process all of its waste residues, supply all its own thermal energy, all of its own electricity and exports power to the national grid - all carbon neutral from local sustainable plantation forestry. A true biomass powered sawmill."

  • @davinderdhiman2905
    @davinderdhiman2905 Před 25 dny

    I have 14+ years of experience in timber industry of all types of imported and local timber for sales supervision l lam looking for a job in Newzealand in same field

  • @mikeandcolleenk9831
    @mikeandcolleenk9831 Před rokem

    Well hope west fraser doesnt buy you out. Its a neat process yo see from log to boards the process. Trezt your EMPLOYEES with respect , without them your mill isnt able to run.

  • @sw6188
    @sw6188 Před rokem

    All they need now is a rail line into the site so they can lower their carbon emissions by sending their product to the Port of Tauranga via rail rather than road. If the Rotorua branch (rail line) was still in operation they could use that!

  • @Slim885
    @Slim885 Před rokem

    Still can’t provide a decent salary 100k freak out!! For a heavy diesel electrical fitter with welding experience!!!

  • @ailmlvr5905
    @ailmlvr5905 Před rokem

    Yet we are paying the premium price for it

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      The price of a being on small island tuck away at the bottom of the world :)

  • @critical_always
    @critical_always Před rokem

    If only that timer was stone. Maybe nz houses would feel like a real house rather than a mouldy shed.

  • @marcbolland6992
    @marcbolland6992 Před rokem +5

    I had the misfortune to go to Red Stag on a regular basis to collect the finish product.
    Treated like sh*t, bullied, shouted at and even threatened by a forklift driver who was going to drag me out of my cab.
    I banned myself and refused to go there again.
    Boss didn't like it but never stood up for me, so I no longer work for him.

  • @bigboy0625
    @bigboy0625 Před rokem +1

    The homes in New Zealand are a mess so cold in the winter made from crap wood and cotton wool dor insulation with aluminum window frames that make great condensation every morning like it's 1970s again.

    • @kaymish6178
      @kaymish6178 Před rokem

      Yeah. It is pretty typical for good quality NZ products to get exported to foreign markets with NZ left with the rubbish or inferior imported products.

    • @martyverry954
      @martyverry954 Před rokem +2

      @@kaymish6178 NZ gets the best cuts from the log, whilst lower grade timber goes to Asia.

  • @furylic
    @furylic Před rokem +2

    Just a pure commercial? Sure feels like it.

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      Like I say at @11:20 definitely not an ad - just a builder and big kid at heart super interested in the process
      if I’m that way surely others are - hence the video :)

  • @berrypainter
    @berrypainter Před 7 dny

    Largely sawmill in the southern hemisphere processing low quality logs. A species that was native to North America and never exploited commercially. What's that tell you....

  • @MaoriAussie
    @MaoriAussie Před rokem

    JNL?

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +1

      I used their Jframe for a bit when it was available, from what I understand they’re directing a lot of their product back to Japan now

  • @sidneyoreilly1135
    @sidneyoreilly1135 Před rokem +1

    Until the Chinese buy it

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem

      it’s a family owned business that’s proud to be Nz owned

    • @Koalabrothers
      @Koalabrothers Před rokem +1

      @@nzbuilder you say that but wait and see

    • @sw6188
      @sw6188 Před rokem

      It is rare to find any business owner who will refuse the lure of a large cheque pushed into their hand. So many NZ businesses have sold out to the chinese - iconic companies like Fisher and Paykel. At the end of the day it's nothing but greed. If china came knocking on my door I would send them packing, it wouldn't matter how big the cheque was.

    • @Maverick46nz
      @Maverick46nz Před 14 dny

      Anything can sold

  • @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
    @ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Před rokem

    This guy remind people of Gromit? 😂

    • @nzbuilder
      @nzbuilder  Před rokem +1

      haha Having a Grand Day Out?

  • @mathewdasilva4421
    @mathewdasilva4421 Před 3 dny

    poor animals

  • @ChoppaMate
    @ChoppaMate Před 2 dny

    4x2 and 8x2. Don't use those measurements here.. cmon chief.

  • @stefanzzz6778
    @stefanzzz6778 Před 7 dny

    Red Stag is not the biggest. Just saying.

  • @olierekve5221
    @olierekve5221 Před rokem

    Big river sask has a bigger mill just saying