THE PERIPHERAL Ending Explained!
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- The Peripheral is one of 2022's most confusing shows. In this video we take a deep dive, review, recap, and explain the ending to Jonathan Nolan and Lisa Joy's sci-fi epic on Amazon based on the book by William Gibson.
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I did this video and I'm still confused 😂
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I really liked your video, but I am also really confused.
Like, if you're able to spin off / create an infinite number of "stubs", then what's the whole point? I mean, how do you know which "reality" is real? If that makes any sense.
Also, what would be the purpose of having an infinte number of stubs to choose to live in when there would already be an infinite number of copies of yourself living in each stub. Rather a silly concept if you ask me.
What confuses me is I understand how they made a stub... it wasnt instantaneous but through manipulation of the past....so theyve made other stubs as well, one in which Flynn presumably transfers her conscious to... but hows that possibly? Then she destroys the RIs ability to track her by destroying a...pocket watch? Huh? How does that work?and how does Lowbeer summon her from this new stub? Again huh
Great effort.
I think we are all confused. Even worse than Westworld
I really like this show, thank you for making sense of neoprims, klepts, ect I was getting lost on the future people and their intentions.
I became a little bored midway through but the end picked up hopefully they're picked up for a second season this was a really great breakdown
This is the best explanation of The Peripheral that I have heard. Clear, concise, and far less confusing than most.
Yet, many of the things said are wrong. Its like he read a script wrong and didnt even actually watch it.
@Luis Munoz Ok got your points. But I still don't get this. Let's say we are in the stub which is 2030s one(where series began). Now it seems Flynne created a stub and sacrificed herself. So now in our stub there is no Flynn. the stub she created is kind of a copy to our one. let's say the Flynn in that copy took over the mission and she also got the DATA. My questions are assuming this fact. the new stub is like a checkpoint to ours and so it is a exact copy like ours. Why the Conner in that stub does not shoot Flynn? Does Flynn s in both stubs has a mutual understanding? And this is out of context, how will Burton react knowing that he won't see his sister again and his best friend killed her?
Agreed! It explains stuff I didn’t even know I didn’t understand! Thank you!
These are the rules, correct me if I am wrong.
1. At the point of contact to a past time, a stub is created. This can be just watching a video or sending information back. No matter if an individual travels to the future and acquires new information, the stub is set as a deviation from the main timeline.
2. Contact occurs within a time. When Flynne said Cherise wouldn’t be able to find her without the coordinates, this was based on a particular time when contact was made rather than a physical location.
3. A stub can be created from an existing stub. (I’ll call it a sub stub)
4. By extension, a stub can be created within a stub.
5. Contact can only be made with a time that has the relevant technology. Since it’s a sort of information transfer.
Conjecture
I’m assuming it’s roughly around the time the sim technology was introduced. The RI made contact with the stub 10 years prior to the main stub timeline.
6. Only the research institute has the power to create a new stub (or rather within their confines) and only they can sever the connection with a stub.
7. Even if a stub is created within the RI, unless the coordinates are mapped there is no way to find the coordinates of the stub.
conjecture
It’s possible they can see that a new stub has been created, I would assume it takes up power and resources. Whether or not they can sever the connection with a stub without coordinates is unknown. I would assume not since Flynne was able to access the main timeline from that stub.
From what I understand, in order for Flynne to save her timeline she sacrificed herself so that the RI had no reason to destroy her family within her timeline. Cherise’s goal was to eliminate the possibility of any other parties (within her own timeline) getting a hold of the research that was lost. This is why she would rather kill Flynne than capture. At this time, the Klepts had access to the stub so it’s what made the most sense.
*Even if they did manage to kill Flynne, this wouldn’t have any impact on the research being conducted within the stub. They would have still carried on accelerating the jackpot.
Flynne creates a stub from her own stub using an unknown coordinate. It would make the most sense for contact to be made after the plan with the detective was made and before she was killed. This means that the data in her own stub was destroyed and a whole new stub with said data was created and only the detective has access to this stub (as far as we know). That is the Flynne we saw at the end.
*Since a sub stub was created within the main timeline out of the stub, access to the sub stub is direct (from the main timeline straight to the sub stub).
The issue that Cherise and the RI have is that the data would fall into the hands of someone from their timeline who could influence the main timeline. Since another stub was created rather easily, this would mean that they had the power to do this since the data was stolen. To prevent the data leak from being an issue, as soon as they found out the data was in the stub it would have made more sense to sever the connection with the stub as a whole. This would stop any potential factions getting a hold of the data. Even if it were to influence the stub timeline it would make no difference to the main timeline.
The other option they had from the beginning was to create a new stub from the main timeline before Aelita stole the data. They would have future knowledge of when, where and how the incident would occur. Torture Aelita and ask her where she intended to go and what she wanted to do with the data. She probably wouldn’t say since she knows they have the power to create new stubs, she probably would have come to the conclusion that she then existed within a stub to aid the RI in the main timeline.
They had the power to create new stubs at any point in the past knowing the outcome. They could have used these stubs to figure out how things would unfold in the present. This was the first thing I thought of rather than doing unethical research but both are a good use of stubs I guess.
*This also means that they would have an infinite number of backups of the research within other stubs.
Going forward, it would seem the RI have been put in an impossible situation. However, if they utilise the method above there is literally no way they can lose unless they fall within one incident.
I read that there will be no new series. You all really need to rethink this because this is a very interesting series. Please continue this series.
I'm glad others were as confused as I was. That said, I really enjoyed Peripheral season 1. I don't mind not knowing everything all at once. I hope it gets a 2nd season.
Supposed to be 2 more seasons according to a web article I read.
@theduke7385 uhh ok.... maybe go watch some episodes of Masked Singer or some good ol' Law and Order reruns. You might find those more entertaining.
See you guys in season 2 in a year or two, where everythign about today will be forgotten, and never explained for 2 more seasons.
the last episode is a lt of WTF to me. I really like the show but the last episode is loaded for filler but yet there is no time to explain what is happening. It fills really crammed but with filler all at the same time. It feels like they edited out the main ending.
Same! I actually bought the book just in case
Her plan, the way she described it, is to fix her "black hole" problem. In her gaming world, it's a term that means a point where there is zero chance of success because of something done or not done much earlier in the game that has automatically doomed the player without her knowing before it was too late. So the new stub will send her to an earlier episode (possibly episode 1) this time armed with the information of how to not repeat the earlier specific lethal error in judgement. The only records of her choice for point of respawn (new stub's location in time and space) were in that stop watch, which she destroyed.
Good take, It looks like she had chosen and created a new stub right before she crushes the watch, and that new point is some time in 2032, What i am not getting as I think most of us watching is how she gets there, it seems like she knows how, and that it will be her conscious from her present time line /stub transferring over into the new stub, but maybe I am reaching to much for that, I guess that's where I am confused as she/ the character and the audience eventually find out there are many other stubs created, with other versions of themselves living out those time lines to different ends, but before we or the character know about the other timelines, just like in our own reality, we are only conscious here in this one and have no idea what we are doing in the other ones, just as Flynn has no idea of having 2 children in another stub, (no period key on this keyboard sorry), That brings me back to thinking or wondering if she really sacrifices herself, because if she does then she is dead along wiih her current conscious, I feel she finds a way to do that reboot and survive by transferring this conscious into another version of herself, but the difference being that she can do this without replacing or killing another one of her versions and its own conscious from within that said timeline because she herself is creating the new timeline from within her present conscious mind and somehow transferring herself/conscious mind there and never really dying, but escaping her fate to die in her own stub while saving the world/timline she was born into, although that world will continue living thinking she had died, all except Connor who seems to agree being the instrument of her death or new reboot, Sorry I reached anyway but how the heck are the writers going to explain how all this takes place in a way that keeps my suspended disbelief in tact lol!? I am hoping this time travel story doesn't disappoint, Thanks for hanging in there with me peeps, I am entertained! Loving the 1st season!
great take
@@2tenaquatics we know that Conner would have given his last limb to stay in the future. (haha) She presented this to Conner as if he was going to come with her. It looked to me like OG Conner was there shooting at Flynne. So that was probably OG Flynne. So im wondering if they downloaded both their consciousness and Lowbeer was somehow going to shoot that download into the new Flynne/Conner in the new timeline. But the only way to do that would be thru a headset, and Conner didnt get in on the headset thing til way late in the game. And then theres also the question, if they did basically make a copy of their conscious selves, is that copy really even them? Like OG them, basically SACRIFICED themselves to protect their loved ones and for what? NOT A THING because that jackpot stuff is STILL going to happen regardless. no matter what they were all going to die anyways. Its all so sloppy imo. They really should have tightened this up more. Given us just a LITTLE more understanding. which i am suspecting that even they cant do because they themselves probably dont even understand what they just did to us. HAHA
I'm still confused why is she able to travel back in time? The peripheral was not invented back then, thus she won't be able to "data transfer" herself into the past.
@@yopscraft663 Me too! And i think it's about this future tech like "Quantum Entanglement", similar concept used in INTERSTELLAR (Please help here! @ThinkStory). She's not travel physically, but her actual consciousness uploaded back adding the new experiences into her past mind. We'll see!
The way I've understood this is that a stub is a fork in timeline which is created each time a timeline interacts with its own past or with the past of another timeline (or its stub) - this avoids the contradictions that may emerge since interaction with the past can create paradoxical outcomes (someone gets his younger self killed). Thus a new timeline is formed and all influences due to the interaction affect the new timeline and the original one goes on as before. Now once a stub is created, it runs independently of the original timeline it forked (and is behind in time based on when the fork happened). The only way the stubs interact is via the data interaction between them through which they can influence outcomes in the present moment of the other stub (if they interact with a past moment of the other stub, it will create a sub-stub).. So there's a main timeline or the RI stub (which is where all the future action is with the peripherals and RI etc with jackpot completed), in this Burton dies and Connors escapes unhurt, Flynne marries Tommy. There's another timeline where RI influenced Connors to save the dog and thus created a fork where Burton lives and where most of the past time of season 1 was spent and from where Flynne controls the peripheral, let us call it Burton Stub.
What Flynne has done in the final episode is to create a stub (fork) on the Burton Stub and create a situation such that she dies in the Burton stub, but lives in the new stub (we can call it Flynne stub). With this, Flynne is dead in Burton stub (which RI and others can access) and alive in the Flynne stub (which RI cannot access because she destroys the key to get the access). Except for this, the state of the Flynne stub is identical to Burton stub and she has the data and way to control the peripheral, but RI has no way to know what is happening in this stub since they do not have the key. Thus Flynne can affect the RI timeline, but RI cannot affect Flynne's stub. She can even interact with Connors and Burton via the peripherals (in the future RI timeline). Also RI now has no reason to accelerate the destruction of Burton stub since FLynn is already dead there and so their data is safe there.
If multiple stubs can be created from that same timeframe, that means all of the from all the stubs that branched from there would have that data implanted in their brain. What is also a bit confusing is it seems like the main 'future timeline' can interact backwards with any stub or create new stubs. So to me each of those stubs would create alternate futures right? The problem with this is if there are multiple stubs with futures that can create multiple stubs and interact with any of them couldn't there be multiple futures trying to interact with the SAME stub, thus creating a paradox?
@@Khaladas Yep
@@Khaladas I have a feeling the reason they are called "stubs" is they don't last long enough to develop the technology the main timeline is using. That was the first thing that occurred to me when I heard the term "stub." Stubs are short. And it would be absolutely moronic to torture a population of people in the name of research and then allow them to reach a level of technological development where they could figure out what you did and get revenge. The RI must have a way to end all life in these stubs when they are done with them.
@@Khaladas As per my interpretation, a stub isn't created each time an interaction between 2 timelines takes place, but only when one timeline interacts with the past of another timeline, so to prevent contradictions in the timeline whose past is tampered, that timeline forks. In case of interaction with the present moment of a timeline, the future has not already happened, so there is no chance of a contradiction.
Given this, you are right that multiple subs can be created with each having all the data that was available at the point of fork.
Also, nothing prevents multiple stubs from interacting with the single stub provided they all have the technology to actually influence a different stub since they may all be at different points of time and hence tech development. And this will not lead to a contradiction if they all are interacting at the present moment of the stub being influenced since the future will play out the influence, and if they affect the past moment of the stub, then a new sub-stub will be created.
In the books, at the moment of first contact the timelines diverge (a stub is born) and also become synchronous, a minute here is a minute there.
There is no concept of branching a stub from a stub.
There are multiple stubs being run by mutliple organisations, in many of which the the jackpot doesn't happen because total extinction does (usually nuclear war).
It's a more coherent concept, but obviously the showrunners felt it limited narrative possibilities.
I could be wrong, but I think maybe her actual consciousness was also transferred to the new stub with the data. So she isn't being killed and replaced by an alternate version of herself, she is literally becoming the alternate version of herself. So from her perspective, one moment she is getting shot, and the next moment she opens her eyes in the new stub. The reason I think this also is because in the timeline map, the new stub being created is not listed as a new stub, it is listed as a "continuum". This implies that her consciousness is shifted over and will "continue", much like a save game state.
Totally agree with this!
That idea of her "saving the game" seems to makes sense here, sure, but not possible according to the rules of the universe. I mean, how exactly would she have transferred her consciousness (problem A) to herself in another universe, and the data (problem B) which is different because this data was encoded her DNA and thus isn't something that can be passed down to a brain?? Explain that and I'll say you're right, otherwise I'll just think that she's giving up the save file timeline that we've seen throughout the season and trying to manage her own self in a new one
@@f.miguelbalde9671 But the data was transferred through the headset, that's how she got the data in the first place
@@taidghusflynnius so?
So is she dead in the real world?
The actress playing Young Aelita, is very impressive. Hope to see her in more stuff in the future (the actual future, that is).
yo ucan see her now in the work she's done in the past. Her actual past lol.
What i think is i wish this Friday gave us episode 9 i can't believe only 8 episode for a season just not enough! This show is one of the best shows that came out this year it's exciting
Same here , was looking forward to watching a new episode . Never mind still got the World Cup to watch.
Cmon England 👍
We appreciate this particular breakdown of The Periperheral. We all hope you continue to do well.
We? You mean I.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 No, she means "we". Her and her peripheral. 😁
that feels exactly like westworld did. The first episodes were great, but than it got so complex, that i wasn´t emotionaly invested in the caracters anymore. I was just confused....
Pretty much this. Cool concept but increasingly poor execution as the story progresses.
I love complicated sci fi like Dark but if your'e going to have a story revolve around something this convoluted you need to have someone explicitly explain to another character (and us) what the hell is going on. I was surprised that there was no "here's how this works" scene when Flynn told her family/friends about the future. They all just got it. I thought I missed something.
Nailed it!
You explained a few things I somehow missed. Great review as always! Fingers crossed for a season two🤞...
Without this explanation I don’t think I would’ve understood anything from the show! Great breakdown!
My daughter and I understood a few things from the show. We pause to discuss what is happening lol but clearance is always appreciated.
That's true
That's why we r here😁
@@colmodriscoll33 I would really like someone to join me to watch stuff but my friends just watch movies mainly
Flynne that wakes up with Ainsley is stub Flynne 2, a divergent reality split from the moment she activated the pocket watch. Same life up to that point, so the same bacteria and same agenda, but she going off to kill Cherise, who doesn't have access to affect the new stub, so doesn't have her power over Flynne.
Stub Flynn 2 is killed by Connor in stub 2 because he has all his limbs.
@@nathanjlloyd oh sht, really? I'm going to have to replay that to check, but I'd have assumed that the RI in the main timeline can't see what differences are happening in the new stub ...
actually, we don't know that, but his position is consistent with only one arm.
@@nathanjlloyd Couldn't Gimpy Conner have set up the shot from his scooter thing? Maybe that's why Flynne was so specific about where she'd be so he'd be able to set up the shot from the road.
I love any show that makes me think and doesn't dumb down the material because they think the audience is not smart enough to get it. I don't want to predict what is next by the end of the second episode. I also don't want lazy writing to subvert expectations to try and be witty because they can't be smart due to audience not getting what they are trying to do.
Yeah just the part with the watch didn't make sense....also they couldn't come up with a few droids that could fight her? Other than that I did love the show
@@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Not having a clear explanation doesn't mean it "didn't make sense"
It's just give us the liberty to imagine what could it be before giving us a clear explanation, btw maybe all this information are viable for the end of the show i don't know
I'm more like Edward and love their way to let us think what it could be even if it's not in purpose due to lack of budget/time
@@Natsu_Macaron Bro not having a clear explanation and not making sense DOES MEAN ALMOST THE VERY EXACT THE SAME THINGS genius LMGDAO...Like I said it didn't make sense...BUT NOT EVERY SHOW IS PERFECT SMH
@@ChrisSmith-tu9bu . Yeah that fight sequence at the end was kind of lame. The cop even said those fighters are as good as you or better so what was the point of that fight sequence
@@michaelpetersen6579 the whole thing was weird...they should have done a better job showing how playing with a pocket watch before having Conner shoot her was her grand plan...just the finale was BY FAR the worst episode and reminds me of those movies you watch when you can tell they went over budget... basically there are tins of 2:30.movies that are about 1:30 just because about after they shoot the first hour of mivie rime film some atudio exec is like welp Im here to end this thing because we're not gonna pay anyone after auch and such date so it ends then regardless of anything so suddenly this slow asf movie suddenly scrambles to wrap up everything while leaving bunches of questions unanswered....this was that....they basically meandered the whole ⛵ then somewhere in the middle of the last episode some exec was like welp thats it you got a couple of days of production to get Flynn in a new stub working with Lowbeer while Zubov comes after her and you need to do so aas quickly and as cheaply as possible...so they make Chloe play with a pocket and take a walk in the woods or maybe they even had old footage of her already walking in the woods...then they just added a sound effect of a bullet shot....easy peasy and cheap....no explanation of anything...jist some rushed monologue with Cherise that didn't make any sense after single handedly beating uo five robots that were supposed to be top notch... great show but the ending dings the series especially considering they went at such a slow pace before the rushed ending
Good explanation, it connected some elements I missed at the beginning.
If a new season is never made, I won't miss it.
It's not about the production or acting which are fine.
I found threading the plot pieces together to be tiresome and without a satisfying payoff.
Liked your summary... Except, I think I'll skip next season and happily cancel Prime. The end was extremely unsatisfying. Way too many open questions.
why do you need a "pay off"? whats wrong with questions and unresolved problems?
@@roland6253 Because 90% of these show DO NOT get a second season and so waste our time without a fully fleshed or self contained story, albeit within a larger overarching one that would deserve a s2. The Devils hour is a good example of a self ocntained story that is satisfying but still can exist withon a larger story and have a s2. It still wasnnt a waste even if it hahdnt had a s2. The Dark sequal on the boat is another good example. New media concumption needs a less TV based style of presentation, a more savvy streaming based presentation. Note this STILL hasnt been greenlit.
I wish this show was more like Outer Range, it's mysterious but explanations are building in each episode and ends with answers and a nice setup for season 2. Peripheral just kept building the mysteries in each episode then ends needing a season 2 to make sense of what all is happening in season 1.
That's Jonathan Nolan for you
Outer range !
Outer Range though!!! That show was also dope. But I'm the opposite. I feel like Outer Range was more mysterious and left us hanging more than The Peripheral. It seemed pretty clear that the second season of The Peripheral (finegrs crossed) will be Flynn playing the "game" under her terms coming after Nuland but realizing the "game" is much messier than she initially thought.
Glad I watched this show back to back, because yes at points I had to pause and just organise the plot in my head- though I’m glad I kept up! I like it when a show doesn’t dumb down it’s viewers. Loved it, was a unique story with a really good cast of characters.
Yeah westworld was great too, well for the most part a couple of the seasons felt a bit rushed & meh..
I think that I will watch it back to back when season 2 comes out. The ultimate recap :-)
This explanation helped me appreciate the writing and understand the show’s plot a lot better. Thank you!
She created a stub further in the past. A version of her from that past operates a peripheral in her timeline. Allowing them to kill her or make it look like they killed her, but just killing an empty shell.
That way the version of her with the "data" in her brain is still alive and able to go to the future.
Whoa! I’m back to confusion but that’s ok. This is a fun thought to noodle on.
Didn't see that coming, but now that you say it I absolutely agree!
In theory, they could have created a new stub beginning like 30 minutes before she was killed. Then the version of her from that stub would be identical to her. (basically the same person with same memories and knowledge, including full knowledge of the plan to create the new stub.) Lowbeer probably had to brief the new stub version of her a bit so she understood she was from the stub, and the other version of her (the one the audience followed) had already been "executed".
....The only hole is that it looked like the execution took place in future London, which means only the peripheral was destroyed. To get Sharice off her trail, the execution would have had to take place in her present time. I'll just assume Lowbeer and Flynne knew this, so that's what actually took place and my eyes were fooled. Maybe the camera panning out to a dense forrest was meant to indicate they were in their present time.
Ok my own idea doesn't work because then there would be new version of Cherise and everything would be the same, basically accomplishing nothing. The only way to "hide" in a stub is to live permanently hooked up to an IV and Catheter in your timeline and never leave the peripheral. In the way that Connor said he wanted to do. However, if her Peripheral looks like her, talks like her, and acts like her, there will undoubtedly be suspicions. Not sure how they get around that. I guess it wouldn't matter if they could keep her body hidden (in her timeline). But people will always be searching for her. I don't know!
Yes, that's what I thought also...she didn't have the helmet on when she gets shot in Burton's stub because she has the helmet on Flynn's stub
I enjoyed the ride very much, so much so that I've just rewatched all the episodes again, and this time around everything was much clearer. I liked the thought that has gone into the design of the show, the touches such as "Maenad's Crush" as the name of the bar where Grace and Aelita have their meeting.
Thank you for making this video. You provided an excellent recap of both the series and explanation of what could have happened at the end of the last episode. I really like this show, and for the most part was able to figure out what was going on throughout all of the episodes. But, I was super confused at the end of Episode 8. In spite of the confusion, I think that’s when you know a show is really good - when after the season is over you have to sit and process what you saw and are thinking to yourself, OK what just happened? 😊
Solid breakdown! I loved this series premiere season. Definitely good to have something in the realm of a Westworld for mind bending.
god im so glad you covered this i was confused halfway through and knew i was going right to youtube
Very good explanation and synopsis of this season. I am glad it's streaming; I think I will need to watch it over again from the beginning to grasp the scope of the story. But your breakdown was excellent, thank you!
Fantastic show! At a very early age my grandmother taught me about puzzles. This show did a great job feeding that need. I keep looking for the second season.
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Great review ,great show! Thanks and lets hope for another season!
I am so happy that you are reviewing this. I wished that you did episode breakdowns for this show. But beggags can't be choosers.
Heavy spoiler talked about the theme of "bees" throughout the season.
I think your assessment of the ending is correct from the information so far. Lots of people have said how confusing the Peripheral is but I haven't found it as confusing as West World. I have been glued to this series so far and can't wait for season two.
I've seen many videos explaining the show & ending. I was still confused after watching them. Until i watched your explanation video. Now it's clearer for me. Best explanation out there. Kudos to you 👏🏼
That's as good an explanation as it is possible I guess. Thanks. I decided from Episode 1 not to worry too much and just go with the narrative but it helps that you tied it all together.
She created a savepoint prior to dying and destroyed the tracking device so in that particular future cherise wouldnt be able to know how to access the new stub
The way I gave a HUGE sigh of relief seeing you uploaded this 😅 nah gon lie I’m still confused so I’ll just have to rematch a few more times! Thank you so much for doing what you do!!
Love what you did and summarized in this video. The whole thing was a confusing experience for me. With that said, it’s been a while since I was completely hooked in a TV series ever since the early seasons of Dark. Hoping a second season is in the making to answer your questions though. 😅
I can't remember the last show that had me as excited for the next episode as this one did. I think the ending was weak. None of the stories were wrapped up. I was excited for the finale I really didn't know how they would wrap things up.I guess they didn't either. Streaming shows should be more self contained , I hope the show is popular and gets a 2nd season. If not, I just wasted my time.
I agree total shit show of a final season episode.
Yeah, lots of questions still unanswered. I did read that there will be at least 2 more seasons. So there's going to be time to explain some of the things they've left out.
well. what he said
How can they wrap it up? The book doesn't have seasons in it. If they don't get a second season, read the book.
@@klaxongroup4605 wait ...you mean when you adapt something a from a book...you can't make changes to suit the new medium? Does everyone one else know that?? Seems like some people manage to pull it off.
The ending is what bent my brain a bit. The only thing that kind of makes sense is that the “Stub” she created was just before the time when she infiltrated that Research Institute facility. That would create another copy of her with the virus and most of her knowledge of what happened or will happen. (Tenses are getting awkward) I could be way off but it does make sense in a way.
Thank you
Oh thank God, this video really cleared it up for me. Too many terms and plot points to keep up with and sort out lol. Thank you and great work!
So- simply only the future is the base true timeline???
Since they are the ones that can make different branches?
Very good explanation, mate. Aprpeciate folks like you who can clear out some specific detail in the show. I think your theory on ending is on point.
If I understand it right (big if), all stubs originate from the “original” 2100 London time line.
But Flynne flips the script by creating a stub… from a stub. And until a change has been made in the new 2038 stub she made, it will run parallel and be identical to her own 2038.
So when Flynne is killed in her 2038 stub, she has a mirror version of herself in this parallel stub. Identical in literally every single way. But because it’s a stub off another stub, and she crushed the timepiece macguffin that created it and controls access to it, she’s effecting marooned it. Untouchable by 2100 London. She can go back and forth as she “knows the way” and can control access.
The kicker though is that unless there is an intervention, the Flynne in the 2nd 2038 stub will also sacrifice herself after creating a parallel 2038 stub of her own. And we begin to run into our first paradox that will have to be solved with liberal doses of plot armour.
Clear as mud!
Hmm I don't understand why "the Flynne in the 2nd stub will also sacrifice herself after creating a parallel stub of her own." Could you please explain ?
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Well if she created a 2nd stub off of her own, the Flynne in that stub _should_ follow the same path and choices. In theory she should also create a stub and then sacrifice herself, and so on, and so on, infinitely. Unless there is an act of intervention to break the cycle.
It’s also possible that Conner didn’t actually shoot Flynne… but a peripheral of her. If future London can transmit data to stubs which allows them to build cars with cloaking tech, the soldier’s haptics, that funky stun gun thing, the headsets, no reason they can’t also send the tech to build a peripheral.
@@HeliRy Tecnically there cant be a loop since in the future she has alredy destroyed that "stub station" and the future knows her plan so unlikely. & Inspector Ainsley Lowbeer already had the meeting with her once. when she tries with the meeting again its the last sene with the table and Ainsley debreifs her.
She "deleted" herself from the "old stub" to not leak the dna coded information in her head.
No, Flynn (1.0) only decided she needed to kill herself when she heard that teams had been sent to infiltrate the nearby nuclear missile silo. So she decided she could end that threat by killing herself and removing the reason that 2100 wanted to nuke the town (to destroy her and the information in her head).
But before she died, she caused a new stub to be cloned from her own timeline, but from a point in time shortly *before* instructions were sent to the missile team. This creates Stub(2.0) and Flynn(2.0), who has lived through the events of most of episodes 1-7 and still is hellbent on getting revenge on 2100.
Then as soon as Flynn(1.0) created Stub(2.0) she destroyed the "watch" that would have let 2100 access that new stub.
Now 2100 can't nuke Stub(2.0) (because it has no means to reach it to give the orders to set in motion the nuking mission). The nuke mission never gets started in Stub(2.0). So Flynn(2.0) never hears of any nuke mission and has no reason to decide she needs to kill herself, so she continues the fight.
Flynn(2.0) eventually uses the headset to visit 2100 again and keep up her "resistance" efforts, and as soon as she does Lowbeer tells her, "by the way, you no longer need to worry about 2100 meddling with your timeline -- you're not going to believe this, but you're now from a stub-of-a-stub because another Flynn did something amazing to ensure that for you."
Just one thing to clarify. The new stud is the same as creating a new reality. When Flynn created that stud everything that she has experienced as a human and memory is carried into the new stud. So her mom will still die in 23 days. But she has the new DNA from the eye scanning. (Essentially everything that happened to her from episodes 1-8 up to that point in episode 8)
Yes. I really don’t understand why people are confused. It’s a concept quite topical in quantum physics now.
The real question is why Cherise don't create a recent stud/timeline and just help eachothers with her duplicate, like Rick does ?
Yeah it would be a mess but it will be fun !
@@Natsu_Macaron They might try to kill each other, like How Zubov killed his dad and whole family in Flyn' timeline cause he didnt like the feeli of there being another version of him lol.
The technology isnt about altering the past. Altrring the past creates a stub. RI is using the stub for several research ventures. The one they focused on is about behaviour modificstion. They want to make people more empathetic and less prone to destruvtive acts.
This was the best video that explains the series. Thanks for posting.
This is a really good show and a great explaination of what's going on. It's also a great example of why all episodes should be released at once. With a story as complex as this one,waiting week to week can make it a challenge to grasp all the details.
I'm pretty sure that it takes videos like this,or repeat viewings to catch everything.
I've always watched the previous vid again just right before the new one with closed captioning on. This helped me a lot.
Repeat viewing is the point, I think. A full week to rewatch the last episode- catch anything you missed, notice hidden details and 'Easter eggs'. To ruminate and think and debate and theorize about what it meant. Itshould build anticipation for the next episode.
It's all part of the plan.
- The Joker
Just for the record, Nolan and Joy aren't the creators of the show though they serve as executive producers.
I got completely lost in the last three eps. Thank you for this recap. I'm not sure I like watching shows that require me to watch recaps to get them but I'll be there for season 2. At least the first ep.
Lev only has one stub, he's killed off the rest of his family and other versions of himself, not wanting to be replaced.
Flin broke the watch so she couldnt get traced, so her position is not recorded by sharese, meaning she cant find her. Now she is a threat.
Flin is killed in the forest but not before she is doenloaded into a new stub.
this show is a perfect example of " the chicken and the egg" situation. I predict in further seasons we'll be seeing them jump from one timeline to another. it's like a toned-down version of west-world, where we are actually aware of the original timeline.
Loved this series! I’m not really into gaming and almost gave up on it after the first episode. So glad I didn’t as it kept getting with better each episode. The supporting cast are excellent.
July 2024 and I just watched the show The Peripheral for the first time. Studio’s should be punished for leaving shows sooooo set up for a continuing Season to not follow through for their viewers. It’s frankly inexcusable. As unlikely as it is, we can only hope for a 2nd season somewhere, someday.
And thank you for this fantastic summation of what happened in the show. Help to put a few things into perspective for me so I’m deeply grateful.
This is a flawless explanation and has cleared up so much of the confusion i had
Excellent book with a respectable show and the actors couldn’t be better suited for their roles!
I hope the quality continues, looks like it! Seems producing a movie based on a current novel is a success format,
I really like this show
Good luck Flynn and Friends
I loved the book and devoured it in a weekend. I LOVE that reading it has, in no way, spoiled the show as they diverge quite a bit making the series unpredictable and mysterious.
Ugh. No way the writers in any way captured the nuance of the book. I’m not sure it should even have the same name, more like, let’s see how out there we can go, and have guns, fights, explosions and lots of action while changing any and everything that made the book great. Great sets, well cast, beautiful cinematography, not WG.
Flynn already told Cherise that she's creating a new stub and "moving" there. So, how is Cherise going to believe that Flynn was killed by a sniper in this current stub?
And how would she transfer the data in her from stub to stub? Or is it stub to future to stub?
She created a new timeline when she broke into the place across from the cemetery
Her original timeline will still move forward, her brother, friends, family and town still live on but without her
It's the decision the assassin didn't think of himself
Cherise has no reason to kill everyone in that town anymore with Flynn hiding in a new timeline
Even with subtitles, I wasn't always clear on who's who from the many names/words,
even though I loosely remembered all the hints of dialogue of the tv series' lore.
This clarifies a lot though. Thank you.
This show surprised me. I actually enjoyed it much more than I thought I would.
For me :
-Flynn doesn't transfere anything, she just create a new "stub" which is basicly a new timeline (suppositly right at the same moment so he other self know what she did but will not going to suicide)
Since it's a new tub she a duplicate, so she's have the data in double (but not for quite long since she suicide in the 1st one right after)
Everyone also need to understand that the Flynn we know is also the "2nd" flynn since the institute create it when they modify the timeline with the soldier test, so in saison 2 we will following Flynn 3.0 x)
Also, in the end, when the "high" klep talk about cleaning this mess, they don't talk about destroy the stub because it's the institute project, not the klept project... but instead killing everyone who participate into his conspiration
I agree that it's not a transfer - it's more like the Tesla Machine Trick in the Prestige. The original dies but the clone is exactly the same, including memories. My prediction is that that there have been many more stubs than the audience/Flynn has been told about, but data successfully being downloaded into someone's brain without haptics is a huge gamechanger - and some people will realize that being able to do that is much more valuable than the actual data Flynn has in her head, but Team Flynn doesn't see it until after at least another half-season of McGuffin protecting shenanigans.
So she made a stub from her stub, is what you'r saying and she's hoping her alternative self will carry on? (Which we see she will, but Flynne 2.0 couldn't know that and won't know that since she's dead.) That's a hell of a leap of faith! But IIRC a stub is made not just by opening one, a thing has to be changed. So I wonder what will be different when the new Flynne leaves her Peripheral.
I've always thought that if past time travel was possible, that whatever point history was changed it becomes the new timeline and the original one gets rewritten. Anything from the original future will be unable to return to the original history which no longer exists. Here's what I mean. In the movie Back to the Future, Marty travels to the past. Eventually he returns again to the future but finds his original family now have their own altered lives which technically the original Marty was not a part of. Also, there should have already been a revised Marty there who was in fact part of the revised family. The rule would be when travel is to the past it results in the original history being rewritten. Travel to the future is a bit different because it can be done in three ways. The first way is using some device to transport you there, in which case the history you skipped does not include you, because you were in transit and bypassed that. The second way is placing yourself in suspended animation and waiting out the passage of time "frozen" until you reach the desired date and get "thawed". The third way is remaining there and living through that time normally, day by day. Any of these ways results in the same thing, which is the altered McFly family continues on, gets married, has kids. They have their own Marty, unbeknownst that there is an original Marty who is either in transit through time or in suspended animation, or reveals himself as an elderly man. Also, technically speaking, there is no way the McFly children would be physical copies of the originals. They might have the same names but it would be an entirely different person. So in the end, you get original Marty living in a timeline he's not familiar with, and who's original siblings were never born, with a mother who never birthed him but yet has the typical genetic similarity as any of the mother/child. In short: all Marty really did was get himself placed in another timeline with the family he once knew gone forever. Probably ending up homeless and insane because his mind can't accept what happened.
@@HGPrime I don't know if it's enough but Flynn 3 decide not to suicide after knowing that Flynn 2 sacrifice herself, or yeah maybe something else change but it should be something at the time she decide to create that stub and this is recent since she must give Flynn 3 all the informations she have...
I'm more curious about the brother, he will for sure comeback to the futur to take revenge and FOR SURE will see Flynn 3 and start questionning how the hell she's there while her Flynn is dead
Also, Flynn 3 must hide the headset controler from her Stub so her brother and his friend (my memories of name is terrible) will not use it and not sure what happend if 2 people from 2 different stub try to connect to a robot from the futur 0o
maybe i have too many weird question x)
@@wtexas11 Yeah i see your point of view, for this show it's more likely that there is a main timeline and with a technology they can create a different one, but naturally it will not change
And for me for each different timeline, a big change has to be done or it won't work
Or the 2nd possibilty create a new timeline but to acces to that timeline you must register their location in time & space or you can't really navigate trough them
But that is maybe too complex for a show, dk
Good quick summary. Nice hearing it put together in a concise way. I'm hooked for Season 2 in any case.
The “Peripheral” series is a mishmash retelling of other similar stories such as Ready Player One, Avatar, The Dukes of Hazzard, Kick-Ass, and time travel stories all rolled into one; nothing really new here but provides some great laughs. You’ll probably like the series as long as you don’t expect it to break any records or earn any accolades.
Each episode is a casual, computer game-like, albeit detailed, fun romp through a cliche’ ridden story of “drunk hicks in a circle” (their words, not mine), the pick-up driving small town girl with a shotgun and knows how to use it, contract killers, over the top almost comic book-like antagonists, a family member dying of an incurable disease, utterly mismatched romances, and the token protagonist Daisy Duke who’s somehow smarter than everyone around her and always makes the best decisions. Law enforcement in any of the time lines is rendered powerless so that Daisy Duke, I mean Chloe Moritz, can give us Kick-Ass 3. On the other hand, we watch as our woke female lead Flynne kills five other robots “each just as strong” as she is, kills other female baddies with martial arts that she never learned, and pursues a romantic relationship with a man that lives 70 years in the future and can never be with physically because she’s over 90 years old in his time or “she died ten years ago” according to her timeline. We also get the message loud and clear as we watch a 110 lb female police assistant take out two 200+ lb, muscular, ex-marines trained in martial arts during a training exercise. If you’re scratching your head right now, you’re not alone. Over and over again the series insults our intellgence, overtly brings resolution to conflicts in the most unbelievable and impossible ways, and throws in future high-tech items in an attempt to create plot twists and turns which ultimately fall flat.
After this first season I was exhausted from keeping it all straight in some kind of coherent manner. It was if the Tomorrow War and WestWorld had a baby and I was forced to change it’s diaper; some bad acting, incoherent script holes, and the series not knowing what it wants to be started to really stink by the end of the series. Chloe Moritz gives her expected cute-faced, puppy-dog-eyed performance but I just wasn’t convinced that she could hurt a flea and, instead, would rather just hug it out.
I am a massive fan of William Gibson and was excited about this show. It did not disappoint. The only thing is, I feel Westworld was cancelled because Joy and Nolan wanted to make this show more. So, I have mixed feelings about that.
Joy & Nolan didn’t decide to cancel Westworld, HBO did that, as they’ve done many times in the past.
@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj It wasn’t a dead show; season 4 was great.
Same thing their doing with this show they did with Westworld. What if this person is alive again and again and again. The time loop will get old real fast you keep bringing ppl back as androids. Sorry I can't see this in either shows timeline being effective. I can low jack every bot with a bomb and send you back as scrap. So what is the message of both these stories only the super rich can effect the outcome of ordinary and poor ppls lives? Or everyone is sent on a one way trip to commit suicide knowing there fate is sealed?
@@mobiusbelts3607Yeah but I feel like they could have maybe fought harder to keep it- but I don't know how those things work. If HBO was going to cancel it, why even make a season 4?? They should have ended it after season 3 and left it open-ended, then maybe bring it back in the future. Season 4 kind of ruins that, even though I did enjoy it. It just doesn't work as a series finale. I think the show deserved more than that.
@@Theckonestroh I think the message of the Peripheral is effectively the opposite of that. Aelita is a nobody who sacrificed everything she has (aka her life in the "present") in the hope of saving another version of herself's world (she tells Wolf that). In much the same way Flynn does at the end of the season by creating a new version of herself and sacrificing herself to prevent the Cleft from getting the data in her head. The super-rich assholes in the story are the Cleft and the RI. They play with the lives of others in both the "present" and the stubs for their own reasons. They are the villains. Lev murdered his own doppelganger and family in Flynn's stub because he didn't like the idea that they existed. Our heroes are literally nobodies trying to save the world and they finally have a chance at it thanks to the actions of Aelita 1.0 that kicked off the entire story we watched.
I been trying to type out my own theory about the final episode for a solid 10 minutes now. Honestly I'm not even gonna bother at this point and just wait for the creators to explain what happened, this is way too complicated for my brain lol.
Not really hard to understand, it's just that they rush it or didn't want to explain everything
Make it simple, our Flynn 2.0 (Flynn 1.0 married the cops since the institute didn't mess with them yet) create a new timeline/stub with a tools.
This tools register the coordinate (space/time i guess) of the stub, so you can access/interact with it
Flynn 2.0 must have choose a time where she already have the data and know that she will suicide to save her world and that is when our new Flynn 3.0 was create with the exact same world but with the difference that she will not suicide !
So now Flynn 3.0 can still use her headset to join the futur and her robot but Cherise can't do the other way and don't care about the past 2.0 anymore since Flynn 2.0 die.
So the only data still present is in Flynn 3.0 head and she will kick some ass now
Lol
It's the quantum tunneled data being sent to the past suddenly turning into bacteria of episodes. --- I hope that makes sense but I don't have any info about the world that would make that make sense.
Great breakdown, I’ve seen a few but this is the best
Thanks for a great explanation. I am very sad the second season seems to be cancelled
@Think Story, Thank you for putting this whole storyline together. I watched season 1 and loved it but was confused. I found your narrative very helpful to help connect all the dots. Thank you! And awesome job!
Utterly confusing show however this cleared it up alot. Thanks.
This show is freaking good you never know where it’s going to go. Literally the possibilities are infinite with unlimited time lines”stubs”. Next season could have Flynn married to Tommy or she’s the ex marine. I can’t wait to find out.
The very best explanation of Peripheral Season 1 in CZcams. Thanks a lot.
Thank you for this excellent summary!
I watched the whole season three times. I'm less confused now, and I loved every show. The sfx and character development is top notch. The acting and stunts are also top notch. Somehow they can establish a ultra high bandwidth connection between the past and the future ( OK, I can go with that) but they never explain WHY they need people from the past to operate the peripheral. They could get persons from their time to drive, but they DON'T for some unknown reason. I hope they make another season.
I took it as the people from the past stubs could act in their version of the future and not be tracked - possibly by the implants that provide immunity.
I thought they said the connection was a quantum tunneling thing, which is to say I have no clue about that high level of physics lmao. The reason they needed the person from the past to pilot the Peripheral was to use the brother's haptic implants to store information and hide it from the RI (Lowbeer has a way of knowing when a person is lying so there is probably some kind of connection where peoples' brains can get hacked for information or like nothing is private in a world where Neurolink exists). It's kind of foreshadowing because Flynn creates a new stub to hide from the RI at the end. Just my shitty opinion. =)
Aelita's goal was to hide the Research Institute data in a past, stub version of Burton, where no one would be likely to find it. Using his skills (actually, Flynn's) to obtain the data in the first place allowed her to kill two birds with one stone.
It was sort of already explained in a comment below. But Sharice and Aelita piloted peripherals in their own time. Wilf makes up a story to the android cop about a friend visiting from out of town via a peripheral. The stub was created to experiment on humans with haptic technology and some sort of brain alteration to make humans more compassionate towards others. Aelita tried to bring in Burton from the stub to her present time to implant data into his haptics. This was her solution to make the data untraceable. After that, Flynne kept coming back because everyone was searching for Aelita and Flynne was the last person to see her. (inside Burton's peripheral).
They "kind of" did explain why they have people from the past. The future has a VERY low population. We have 8 billion people. After the jackpot they specifically show how even the people you see in LONDON at like the extremely popular spots were mostly CGI to make people less depressed. The population in the future must be extremely low for such a hot spot to be so empty. Flynn is "the best" player of the game in our time, and the game is a real simulation of life, so she is essentially more badass than anyone alive in the future. If you specifically weed out the best of the best out of our 8 billion population then they are going to be better than the best of the best out of some small population of future folks.
I enjoyed the whole season bar the last episode. Glad the show writers think the audience is paying enough attention to follow what was going on at the end, but they definitely could have given a few more lines of dialogue to explain a bit more about the plan.
I agree the last episode felt like a bit of an anti climax but only because the previous four episodes were so darn good! I didn’t much like the first episode either but glad I stuck with it. It improved with each episode, until the last one. I only hope it doesn’t fall off a precipice in series two, as West World did.
Yeah, my wife is re-watching the season, and I think I am going to have to do something similar frankly to wrap my head around what is really happening.
@@jesse6327 it was really simple... Flynn started her own stub & had herself killed in the first stub. The RI loses the reason to start the jackpot early in the first stub... Flynn continues in the second stub
@@nationalsocialism3504 i mean that seems a little reductive. The way they wrote everything, it leaves a bit more confusion than clarity. Someone I watched it with thought she was trying to live in the future inside a Peripheral the same way Connor wanted to, so they didn't quite understand how her original body could die in the 1st timeline despite it being the body that was connected to the Peripheral we always see her in. Also the idea of creating a 2nd reality, having 2 simultaneous Flynn's existing (1 of them being shot by Connor), again, just left a bit more confusion which i think otherwise would have been cleared up pretty easily if she just gave a couple more lines of dialogue when explaining her plan to Connor. Literally in my head he could just say " i don't want to kill you" and her saying " i'll still be alive" or something along those lines would at the very least make it a bit more digestible for the layman imo.
@@MrSwooshify there's already two "Flynns" the original who is married to the Deputy and has two kids... and the Flynn that we see on the show. There's the introduction of a third "Flynn" who is a continuation of the second Flynn (in reality there is an infinite number of Flynns since they have to be using Multiple Worlds theory for this to function.) The RI & Klepts just have no connection with the new stub which makes Flynn an agent of the Met Police now.
I rarely have issues understanding shows but with this one there were a lot of times I had no idea what they were talking about and started to stop paying attention and lose some interest. Probably why it took me months to finish watching it.The only reason I continued watching it is because Jonathan Nolan is producing this show and he created one of my favorite shows of all time "Person of Interest". The story itself is great but the way is executed could use some work. It seems like most viewers had issues following the story. Hopefully next season the writers do a better job explaining things because otherwise I don't see a lot of people continue watching it.
Great explanation, you did a great job with this video.
that was super helpful! still a bit confused on the stub transition but that explained stuff I'd missed!
Thank god I don’t have to deal with time travel in reality anymore 😂
Another “WORLD” that the creators of Westworld are involved with that makes you work really hard to sorta kinda get it. It is relatively fun going up against their “MIND GAMES” but this FORMULA OF FAN ENGAGEMENT didn’t prove to be sustainable with HBO and Westworld and usually leads to fan fatigue and ratings drop off. So being hyper-cryptic doesn’t seem to be an optimal path to maximize viewership.
Seems that someone in a decision making position should have figured this out and tweaked the formula.
I agree. It was a very muddled ending, which meant they didn't know how to explain what happened either. They just made it happen without details. It is frustrating to have a great show ruined.
Thanks for the very through and detailed review!
this may be one of the best breakdowns I’ve seen!
Great story - loved it. Could have clarified some of the stub stuff that made my brain ache. Don’t get how she could hide in another stub. Chloe was amazing. Cherise was sooooo wooden. Shame. Inspector Lowbeer unexpected treat - loved her. FML though gotta wait 2 bloody years to get some resolution.
She didn't hide herself in the new stub, she modify the timeline of the stub she was in (she was the 2nd Flynn if you remember, the first one get Married to the cops) and then destroy the "tools" which being use to locate the stub she create (i guess a time/space coordinate registration)
So basicaly the duplicate of Flynn 2.0 that i'm going to call Flynn 3.0 is in a timeline/stubb where no one knows her coordinate so Cherise can't found the only Flynn left who has the data
Same here... they needed to explain a couple of salient points like...When she went into that room what did she do exactly with that watch...did she find a way to stick her conscious into another stub? did she magically just create another stub then go there...then some how Lowbeer.brought her back to Low beers present?
@@ChrisSmith-tu9bu She just create a new stub, a stub is basicly an other timeline created (like paralel dimension) that differe because of a change
The first stub she was in (Flynn 2.0) that changement was made by the institu with the technologye send to the soldiers
So the Flynn 2.0 we followed actually die but the Flynn we see at the end is the Flynn created by the stub created by flynn 2.0
She just modify one thing at the moment she decide she will die, so the flynn 3.0 is different since that time because she know what Flynn 2.0 was gonna do (suicide herself)
So she didn't transfere herself
@@Natsu_Macaron Yo you can't SNAP your fingers and create a new stub tho...if that's the case that's DUMB ASF...the RI created stubs by continually interacting in the past but you have to AT LEAST do enough to create a ripples/a separate Branch
@@Natsu_Macaron BTW why are you typing out obvious things? SMH
Hey Think Story, have you ever considered making a ranking TV seasons? Not series, but just SEASONS. I know it sounds odd, but my favorite season of any series was the first season of Westworld. Other seasons were very disappointing. And I’m sure there are people out there that think of a show’s season rather than the entire series as their favorite-think AHS. I was just curious if youd ever consider making something like that.
This show surpassed my expectations I absolutely love it, and the explanation given here was fantastic thank you
Oh I geniouinly thank you for this video. It is truly enlightening for those of us that enjoyed the show but didn't understand all plot.
I loved the show so I was kind of sad to see it go half-Matrix in the last episode. Hope it recovers from that in the season 2.
Agreed
Awesome show. Loved the characters and world building. But yeah some things not explained well and we just go with it.
Thanks, finally an explanation that start to make sense of this show!
Thank you. The last episode had me very confused. Now I understand the story
Great show and anylysis, thanks!
I am not sure whether she had to upload any data to a different stub. Because, the new stub branches off round 2032, so maybe this is AFTER the download of the (future) data. Then in the new stub there is just a copy of Flynne with the data already in her.
Flynn created the newStub very, very close to her timeline. Basically, the newFlynn in newStub has all the same experiences and memories as Flynn in the Stub we watched all season. Like a very recent quicksave in a video game. So newFlynn already has visited future London and had the info dumped into her brain because the break into a new Stub happened AFTER all that happened. Again, a save in a video game is the best analogy here. Like when you make a save right before a boss fight. If you strategy for beating the boss fails, you just load up the save.
My guess is that the point of divergence is just before the "present" initiated the terrorist attack on the nuclear silo. In effect, it created a new stub with Flynn from last episode. The contact could have simply been filling her in on what she'd planned with Lowber.
@@GarettHarnish that is the puzzle piece I wasn't getting. Because if her head is shot what good is the stuff in her dna?? So however soon, it HAS to be anytime at all after she got her eye zapped. Okay I can rest now haha.
@@Banzai51 great analogy!
This video was fantastic, glad you love and cover these mind bending Sci-fi shows… thoroughly enjoyed the series. WestWorld got cancelled because it was too expensive to make relative to average ratings. This show did a great job with less expensive actors, so I hope it gets a second season. I don’t think Conner was able to shoot Flynn.
I guess the only part that confuses me is how does the new stub have any of the RI information? Wasn't the transfer of Flynne from Old Stub > Peripheral > New Stub > New Peripheral? Or maybe even Old Stub > Peripheral > New Peripheral? How does this get the information from the RI into the new Peripheral? If the peripherals had this information the whole time why didnt they get the RI info from Flynne's perpipheral shes been in this whole season? Or did that RI building somehow have the ability to take your biological information and transfer it into a new stub? Or are we just assuming the old RI information is lost?
Thanks for this "Advanced THE PERIPHERAL for not so Dummies". I was concerned about the script wandering into so many branches like Westworld did, and still as others here, i'm confused with the powers to create/control the past (And all the paraphernalia with the clock and graphical interfase of the years). This clarified so much the last episode and some bits and parts of the two previous ones.
What a great show, I can not wait for season 2!!!
Your rundown is spot on except for the conclusion. Which I agree, in the words of the inspector, “this all makes my head hurt.” LOL.
In the end, Flynn realized she was playing a no win scenario (what she called the 'black hole' from her gaming experience). In her current stub, elements were enacted to move the timeline for the jackpot forward. In this case, it was to detonate the nuclear missile not far from their town, which would kill her & destroy everything she loves. So she initiated a bold plan w/ the help of the inspector. The inspector couldn’t open a new stub, for as she put it, such actions would be a declaration of war. But she could give Flynn the intel she needed to do so herself.
Flynn gained access to the church, a cover for the stub portal. In which, she took the watch & engaged a new stub to create a fragmented timeline from that moment in time. She crushed the watch so the R.I. would not have access to the data of what or when she had engaged. She then took off the headset & essentially went for a walk, where she was shot according to plan. The version of Flynn from this timeline was in fact killed.
This did 2 things: she was ended in that timeline & all data that held in her head was lost. So there was no longer a reason to nuke the town & surrounding area. In fact, that would be detrimental, because the R.I. has so much research going on in that timeline (the unfathomable cost that was spoken of). So the destruction of her town & friends was abated, & the need to pursue any interest in the lost date was nullified. As far as the R.I., Klept, or Neoprim’s were concerned, this timeline was now only useful for other studies already in progress, but not for the loved ones surrounding Flynn.
However, a new version of her was created under a new stub from a time in which she was fully up to speed, but could operate blind to the R.I. because they were unable to pinpoint when or where in the matrix she exists. This was a move of ultimate check & would allow her to operate independently, w/out any interference from forces in the future. This version of Flynn then took control of the Peripheral to meet w/ the inspector.
One bit of interest, now you have Flynn working unfettered w/ the Inspector to take down the Klept & Dr. Nuland. But you also have TWO versions of her brother Burton & friend Conner who are both in play. I think they foreshadowed this when Lev Zubov had lunch w/ Wilf & told him that he had his own family line killed off in the stub. That “it was too strange having other versions of himself out there somewhere walking around.”
And yes, it’s a lot! It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out in Season 2. I absolutely loved this series, but I admit I had to watch it twice. Once for enjoyment & the general story, then a second time for the nuance. Both were equally enjoyable. But it made my head hurt...
Thanks you helped a lot
I usually come to this channel to ruminate on whatever show I just finished, I don't *actually* need things explained... but this time, by golly, I did not know what the ef I was watching for most of this season and definitely for most of the finale. If it gets a second season, I hope they won't have multiple episodes that are 90% exposition; really hoping they will make things more intelligible.
Great breakdown. I've really enjoyed this show. Have enjoyed reading Gibson stories before and this one definitely was not a disappointment.
So before being shot (which ends her fragment's story) she saves her present personality data but upload it to her past self, so her past self gets future data, makes different decision and creates a new branch so a new fragment ?
When she created the newStub, Flynn created that break into the newStub AFTER the events we see in this season. So the newFlynn in the newStub has all the same experiences and memories up to that point because Fynn and newFlynn have that common, shared timeline of events. So newFlynn already has the data uploaded to her brain because that is what happened to Flynn, that is part of their shared past. Best to think of it as a video game save.
She saved her game before "ending" the old one with a different save point
Thank you! cleared up a lot of questions I had
Wow. Amazing job explaining The Peripheral in a nutshell. The confusing thing was the concept of the stub, but the fact that it's just an alternate timeline makes sense. Moreover, the fact that future people can connect to the past and thus alter it and create stubs is crazy. Second, I didn't realize how powerful The God Font was (access to all stubs), and if Lowbeer has the ability to create new stubs-that shows that she has a secret agenda of some kind (probably to weaken the Klept oligarchy). I suspect that your explanation of Flynne downloading her data into a future stub (like the saved game analogy) is most likely the case. Third, I suspect that Lobov is screwed, (will end up killed) because he's a step behind, and Ash is underrated as an asset in general. Finally, The Peripheral is like a combination of Westworld, Minority Report, The Matrix, and Terminator all rolled into one lol. Can't wait for Season 2!
This show was really fun to watch, I breathed it in like water XD
Confusing as heck but fun. One question though, Inspector Lowbeer only just found out about the stub time travel stuff, so how is she able to do things in the past? For that matter, how is the Klept able to do it? I thought only Aileta and RI had the tech to connect with the past but in ep 1 Wilf and the Klept were able to do it.
Inspector had connections with other Aunties or whatever they're called, I'm sure one of them knows.
I am amazed nobody in these comments has mentioned the books by William Gibson that the series is based on. The tv series has taken a few liberties with the book but frankly has improved the narrative in the main. However we are only half way through and we have come to the end of the season. I want the rest of this book on TV today and tomorrow the sequel in production , base on William Gisons book "Agency" ,
wasnt that the Rebecca Hall SciFi movie? Edit: Emily Blunt's Adjustment Bureau
“No connection to Kanye”
The nuclear bomb was never launched, the terrorists just blew up the silo, setting it off. I believe Lowbeer's agenda is to be able to keep the augmented peripheral of her daughter, Beatrice, with all the extras and with her for her lifetime. I presume Beatrice was killed during the Jackpot. If you recall, Dr. Nuland makes the snarky remark, "The Uncanny Valley Statute is rather clear that Peripherals should never operate as autonomous beings." to which Lowbeer replies, "Beatrice exists under a special waiver to the UVS."
Ahhhh so that is how Flynne is existing in future London. Lowbeer got her a special waiver. That’s why Flynne asked for her help.
@@DiodeMom I suspect the Flynn we watched in this episode died when she was shot in the head. The Flynn we see at the end is from the stub old Flynn created, which diverges just slightly from the old Flynn we know (maybe an episode back before the terrorists were set in motion to blow up the silo).
@Garett Harnish EXACTLY!! I did some more thinking about Lowbeer... do you think maybe she's going to try to SAVE her daughter from ever dying in the first place?
This is exactly what I had figured out but every other reaction I saw was way off and I started thinking I was going crazy and making things up, so thanks once again for clarifying😊