Dynamic-braked SW1200RSs on Canfor Englewood Logging Railway Nimpkish June 1997

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  • Canfor (now Western Forest Products) operates four rare dynamic-braked SW1200s (three have now been re-engined with CAT 3612 prime movers. Note the shops are at Nimpkish NOT Nimkish as the video captions say. Sorry!
    This video, taken in June 1997, shows empty logging trains, the log cars being loaded and loaded logging trains with both one and two locomotives. My wife & I then took a ride from Woss to Beaver Cove with a loaded logging train in the cab of 302 and then, after changing locomotives and crew, in the cab of 303. Our sincere thanks to Canfor and their employees who made us so welcome. Without their help this video would not have been possible.
    Information on our DVDs can be seen at http//users.eastlink.ca/~othen/video.html

Komentáře • 107

  • @user-wu1ds2sz3w
    @user-wu1ds2sz3w Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thank you for preserving this piece of history. This was late in the game for the logging railroads but fortunately the technology had improved so we could go out and record these fast fading things in relatively good quality. Excellent video !!!

  • @denisgray9639
    @denisgray9639 Před 3 lety +3

    #303 looks and sounds so good here. Sorry to see it yrs later after sitting out in weather and windows and doors left open. Was rusted and sad sight but was saved to go on display there finally. Rails all gone too now. Was a good rail operation for long time.

    • @HMSHOOD1920
      @HMSHOOD1920 Před 2 měsíci

      It was all torn down because of an accident. And then switched to shitty fucking trucks. Trucks that ruin the roads.

  • @joebarbjb6668
    @joebarbjb6668 Před 4 lety +5

    Thank you ! I never worked around logging trains, but I did a lot of mountain logging in Idaho, and Washington, I loved every minute, and every memory.

  • @RonStanek
    @RonStanek Před rokem +2

    Nice sounding engines with the dynamics.
    Seems alot quiter in the cab than I would imagine. Dynamics; option "premium" trucks nice sounding horn to scare bears with.
    Would be nice to see this video enhanced.
    Cheers!

  • @LowLightMike
    @LowLightMike Před 4 lety +9

    Thank you David. Now, more than ever, this video is so important. (because of the railway's removal, in summer 2020)

    • @bigpapa8152
      @bigpapa8152 Před 3 lety +1

      So true. The tracks are all ripped up, nothing left but these videos.

    • @danielfantino1714
      @danielfantino1714 Před rokem +1

      Well you where lucky enough to see and record it.
      In Québec we lost the Thurso & Nation Valley (T&NV RR) 1926-1986 that was 56 miles long. Only the first 26 were in use in the last years behind GE 70 tons. Some log cars with truss rods and arch bars trucks dated back from the begining and used as idlers betwen two loaded ones. Trees were longer than flat cars needing those idlers. Some had K brake valves. All cars had hand brakes removed. One had even an axle wheel with rivets for tire replacing. May be from a tender, i don´t know. 1 scrapped GE unit was transformed in a crane with fuel tank reused in Duhamel for speeders. Their GE 45 tons and Office car 27, a short 35 feet long former CPR business car builted in 1907 was purchased in 1929. Both are preserved by Bytown Railway Society in Science &Technology museum in Ottawa ON. Original rails were 60 pounds, replaced by 80 later on. Connecting with CPR, they purchased a lot of things from them, including 2 wood cabooses.
      If you Google Collin Churcher you´ll find history, sort of log book, photos, etc...
      Funny notes. In the last week of planned railroad operation, 2 loaded flats derailed while leaving loading point 26 and fall on embakment. Delays for trying to salvaged them and failed on soft ground, made the last train on saturday instead of friday.
      When the last one left for good, the flashing signal stayed on long after train departure.
      The.T&NV RR ghost tryied its best to keep it alive refusing to die !
      Really miss that line.

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 Před 2 lety +1

    For those of you who have never been to Canada, this is a typical urban downtown area. Wait till you get to the outback!

  • @catslave776
    @catslave776 Před 8 lety +6

    David thank you for the memories l drove up there many times from Campbell River and watch them onload at Beaver Cove to make booms to towe them down to the mills. Love all your vids good job.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 8 lety +3

      Many thanks. Glad the videos brought back good memories.

  • @robertmielke1753
    @robertmielke1753 Před 6 lety +2

    EXellent vid TY. ! The last logging RR on Van.Isle from a vast network that once existed. I studied the Comox Valley R.R ; they even had Shay locies that would climb hills in a sort of 4 wheel drive steam mode. TY! good stuff.

  • @gordonvincent731
    @gordonvincent731 Před 5 lety +4

    I'm a retired engineer. I noticed at 27:10 he made a brake application, and his independent brake handle has a wedge in it!! That's a no no really, only if the road foreman saw it. I wonder why he is stretch braking, and not using his dynamic brake?

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 4 lety

      All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

    • @dh-_1011
      @dh-_1011 Před 4 lety +1

      Well I can’t imagine the dynos are that great on an SW1200, it seems he’s going uphill so I wouldn’t want to bunch up my train going uphill, and maybe he is one of those old heads that uses air and that’s it. As for that “automatic actuation feature”, the newer GE’s will dump the train (or suppress, I can’t remember) if the actuator is held down for more than 90 seconds. I’ve never had it happen to me, but I know someone that has! That’s on the ES/ET 44AC’s. Not sure about the new EMD’s, haven’t ran one yet (SD-70ace-t4).

  • @allanegleston13
    @allanegleston13 Před 8 lety +3

    this would have been my neck of the woods in the 1960s both steamies and deisels working together .. in the end ,, all were replaced by trucks that couldnt go on standard highways and later regular trucks.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 8 lety +1

      +allan egleston I thought that some of the SW1200s had been rebuilt and were still in operation.

    • @allanegleston13
      @allanegleston13 Před 8 lety

      this would have been the old pickering and west side lumnber co in tuolumne california 60 years ago

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 8 lety

      +allan egleston Not quite Vancouver Island British Columbia Canada!!!

    • @alanhardman2447
      @alanhardman2447 Před 5 lety

      @@david-othen - Yup! Obviously, these are CanFor trains.

    • @alanhardman2447
      @alanhardman2447 Před 5 lety +1

      @@allanegleston13 - I do hope you meant this is what it would have looked like in California sixty years ago... This is a Canadian railroad - CanFor.

  • @metalmicky
    @metalmicky Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for the video David , giving me lots of information to build my HO gauge model railroad logging line.

  • @rjl110919581
    @rjl110919581 Před 5 lety +2

    thank you for great detail real operation on short line railroad and share this other

  • @markmcc78
    @markmcc78 Před 7 lety +2

    at the first crossing, I counted 30 log cars, plus the caboose, with one midsized locomotive!? wow, can that haul all those cars fully loaded?!?! that's amazing

    • @francoislepine4698
      @francoislepine4698 Před 3 lety +2

      well.....it's all downhill !!!....Vernon Lake sits at about 1000' elevation....Beaver Cove is, of course, at sea level

  • @PGE564
    @PGE564 Před 6 lety +3

    Nice job, would like to see more of this railway!

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 4 lety

      All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

  • @davidpoor8638
    @davidpoor8638 Před 9 lety +3

    Another super one David!!! Thank you!

  • @vegasfordguy
    @vegasfordguy Před 8 lety +2

    I really enjoyed watching this! Very cool train and beautiful scenery.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 8 lety +2

      Thank you. Yes unusual locomotives and a well run railway operation that has successfully survived for many years.

    • @ragedaddy397
      @ragedaddy397 Před 8 lety +1

      I've seen better locomotives, but the scenery is breath taking

  • @david-othen
    @david-othen  Před 8 lety +4

    To Mykhaylo Slobodyan: Glad you enjoyed it. There is a similar bridge at gypsum mine in
    Milford, here in Nova Scotia. I guess they are more common on industrial
    properties.

  • @robertjackson6932
    @robertjackson6932 Před 5 lety +2

    Wonderful video great job

  • @elonmust7470
    @elonmust7470 Před 4 lety +2

    This is really really cool!

  • @robertjackson8905
    @robertjackson8905 Před 8 lety +4

    great video have a good day

  • @christuttle3980
    @christuttle3980 Před 4 lety +2

    Just was up at Ida lake noticed they started ripping up the tracks by hyw19 To bad they closed this rail line down going to miss it

  • @hanksenkow7313
    @hanksenkow7313 Před měsícem +2

    EXCELLENT HISTORICAL VIDEO. THANKS!

  • @mykhayloslobodyan1250
    @mykhayloslobodyan1250 Před 8 lety +1

    I guess a shared bridge at 30:27 is pretty unique. Good video, thanks.

  • @100_blackrock7
    @100_blackrock7 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, really enjoyed that thanks. I've been to Vancouver Island and traveled on the Via Rail RDC. Long time ago now. Really sad to see that this railway is abandoned. What will happen to it? What will happen to the locos? Sad to see trucks taking over with all the concerns about carbon footprints etc. etc.

    • @HMSHOOD1920
      @HMSHOOD1920 Před 2 lety

      The entire strain system was ripped up. There’s nothing there anymore.

  • @TOPWOP999
    @TOPWOP999 Před 9 lety +2

    Not much has changed. There are about a 3 hour drive from me. Still going strong.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 9 lety +1

      Nick A Thanks Nick. There were rebuilding one of the units (304 IIRC). Have the other units been rebuilt?

  • @tolovesophia
    @tolovesophia Před 9 lety +6

    i thoroughly enjoyed this.

  • @hwoods01
    @hwoods01 Před 3 lety +1

    3612?! That's a huge motor. I'm guessing it was a 3512. The 3512 is about 1500HP's. The 3612 is just too massive in physical size and its around 5000HP.

  • @pjcroziersmith
    @pjcroziersmith Před 10 lety +2

    David, nice video!! I have not been up there since the 1980's. I think though you will find that it is Nimpkish not Nimkish

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 10 lety +1

      Thanks Paul. You are of course correct. Another senior moment.

  • @mikeb4261
    @mikeb4261 Před 7 lety +1

    Nice spark arresters

  • @SgtMaj22
    @SgtMaj22 Před 6 lety +3

    A shame they are shutting this down, very sad.

  • @VancouverIsland1
    @VancouverIsland1 Před 10 lety +3

    Speeder Cars Leaving Duncan,Vancouver Island Canada

  • @dorothyfishbaugh4728
    @dorothyfishbaugh4728 Před 4 lety +2

    I thought this was an awesome train action video!

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 4 lety

      All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

  • @captainrogergcam
    @captainrogergcam Před 9 lety +1

    The caption at 1:47 is wrong. They were en-route to Woss Reload, not Siding 4. They are just going past the "Junction" switch. The through route would have them going up "K-Line" to Maquilla or Vernon.

    • @captainrogergcam
      @captainrogergcam Před 9 lety

      captainrogergcam Crossing Gold Creek Bridge caption should be Ann Creek Over Pass.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 9 lety

      captainrogergcam Thank you for the corrections. I am afraid I do not know the area and I had to rely on maps for the captions.

    • @captainrogergcam
      @captainrogergcam Před 9 lety +1

      David Othen Sorry for the delay. Hi. I am one of the engineers on this railway. Unless we are shut down for heat, or they set me RTC-ing. You should check us out. We are friendly and a ride can be arranged. Let me know if you are interested in coming this way. Summers are sketchy, as dry weather shuts the woods down and we have nothing to haul. Already lost last week due to the weather, though we are back again this week. Day by day.

  • @BNforever2009
    @BNforever2009 Před 9 lety +3

    wow!! This is interesting !!

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 9 lety

      BNforever2009 This railroad is still operating.

  • @baronlocal8569
    @baronlocal8569 Před 7 lety +3

    Interesting image in this movie from min : 29:07
    30:15 - bridge for car and train like trams

  • @CNR-pw1rj
    @CNR-pw1rj Před 9 lety +2

    Could you tell me .What does that place look like today? After 18yrs...Are they still logging.And is it by rail...When I see something like this,it's new to me.Like it was just filmed the other day....lol It's so beautiful.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 9 lety +1

      C.N.R. 42032 I live about 3000 miles away so I have no direct observations! However I believe the company is still logging on that part of Vancouver Island and that a few trains still operate.

    • @captainrogergcam
      @captainrogergcam Před 9 lety +3

      C.N.R. 42032 Yes. We are still in operation. I am off of the Night shift, and in 4 hours the Day shifts will be working. Today! Now.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 9 lety +2

      Thanks for the update. Great to know that the railway is still doing what it was built to do.

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 4 lety

      All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

  • @indonesiaincamera6196
    @indonesiaincamera6196 Před 8 lety +2

    nice video

  • @rjl110919581
    @rjl110919581 Před 7 lety +1

    THANKS VIDEO AS GREAT SEE HOW LOGGING RAILROAD WORKING LINE

  • @kylewalker2160
    @kylewalker2160 Před 4 lety

    Was this narrow gauge track? The ties were very close together in some places so wanted to ask.

  • @StumpjumperVideosPA
    @StumpjumperVideosPA Před 9 lety +2

    very good!!!

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 9 lety

      StumpjumperVideos Thank you - glad you enjoyed it.

    • @fredericksorrell1534
      @fredericksorrell1534 Před 6 lety

      Nice

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 4 lety

      All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

  • @alanhardman2447
    @alanhardman2447 Před 5 lety

    So, what is the small "car" behind the locomotive(s) or sometimes at the caboose end? Is that for loading/unloading crew or some such?

    • @rich-wg5lb
      @rich-wg5lb Před 4 lety

      It appears to be a transfer caboose
      commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CR_18065_IN_Porter.jpg#mw-jump-to-license

  • @jamesshanks2614
    @jamesshanks2614 Před 8 lety +2

    Why did they rebuild the locos with cats? The EMD 567 could easily be rebuilt with 645 liners heads and Pistons
    Emissions?. I have nothing against cats but just curious?
    Retired Boston & Albany railroad engineer
    Thanks

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 5 lety +1

      Loggers like Caterpillar. Finning is strong on North Island.

    • @als1023
      @als1023 Před 5 lety

      @@gangesexcavating true that Finning has always had a large presence on Vanc island, I remember when i started at island Copper in 72, Finning was very big there. Many other suppliers too, but they owned the tracked dozer market until Alice Chalmers brought in the HD 41. The haul trucks came with Jimmies, but were being replaced with Cat engines quickly. The new 170T trucks came with cat engines.

    • @alanhardman2447
      @alanhardman2447 Před 5 lety

      @@als1023 - Hey, fella, that's "Allis-Chalmers"! No girlie-boy names on that orange stuff...

  • @devernepersonal3636
    @devernepersonal3636 Před 6 lety +6

    This is amazing! man I wish they hadn't killed this railroad.

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 5 lety

      I wish the railroad didn’t kill the work crew!

    • @jamesd2128
      @jamesd2128 Před 4 lety +1

      @@gangesexcavating Deferred maintenance by WFP helped in no small part creating the conditions at the reload that caused the tragedy. WFP wanted the railway dead, and they got their wish.

    • @elonmust7470
      @elonmust7470 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jamesd2128 what happened?

    • @jamesd2128
      @jamesd2128 Před 4 lety +1

      @@elonmust7470 Runaway loaded log cars at the reload site ran downgrade and killed three railway workers a short distance down the tracks. WFP immediately shut down the railway after the incident, first calling it an indefinite closure and then dropping the bomb months later, saying they were switching solely to truck hauling for economic reasons. I call bullshit on WFP's decision making process, but that's what they wanted and thats what they got.

  • @KTrainz
    @KTrainz Před 10 lety

    David Othen what was the schedule for these trains

    • @captainrogergcam
      @captainrogergcam Před 9 lety +1

      K Trainz We ( I work here ) don't have a schedule. Though arguably the third largest railway in Canada, we have to be flexible to the woods operations. This includes weather. Road construction ( blasts ). Helicopters ( Yeah, that one catches a few by surprise..they log with them and sometime carry the logs over the tracks ) and a whole bunch of other surprises that we don't even know of yet.

  • @bobaustralia3
    @bobaustralia3 Před 8 lety +1

    Those cylinders on top of the
    diesels are they gas cylinders?.

  • @JohnNyren65
    @JohnNyren65 Před 9 lety +2

    Is that near Port Hardy?

  • @gwr1475
    @gwr1475 Před 10 lety +1

    Does anyone know if there are still in operation?

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 10 lety

      As far as I know they still are in use and at least three of the four now have CAT engines

    • @ian.whaley
      @ian.whaley Před 10 lety

      David Othen Yes, 303 is the parted out spares unit. The other 3 have CAT rebuilds.

    • @david-othen
      @david-othen  Před 10 lety

      CarolinaRailWorks
      Thanks for the update.

    • @gangesexcavating
      @gangesexcavating Před 4 lety

      All scrap metal and shut down now after a tragic multiple fatality wreck. Then went to trucks only to be shut down in a labour strike. And that’s where the operation sits.

  • @LRF152
    @LRF152 Před 4 lety

    What is the horn at 2:00

    • @kisavage7531
      @kisavage7531 Před 3 lety

      Seems like it's some kind of Nathan M5.

  • @charlesdell2864
    @charlesdell2864 Před 7 lety +1

    strange looking caboose.

    • @rich-wg5lb
      @rich-wg5lb Před 4 lety

      It's called a transfer caboose
      commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CR_18065_IN_Porter.jpg#mw-jump-to-license

    • @rich-wg5lb
      @rich-wg5lb Před 4 lety

      It's called a transfer caboose
      commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CR_18065_IN_Porter.jpg#mw-jump-to-license

  • @trainzillamodelrailroading9905

    Shold be replaced with shays.

  • @gangesexcavating
    @gangesexcavating Před 4 lety

    All scrap metal now and shut down.