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- This is our in-depth review of the VW ID.4. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
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The question is,does it brake under 50k like all other VW😆
The Autogefühl team is killing it! Amazing review as always!
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You're on a roll, four reviews today, wow!
I'd take that ID.4 over a Model Y any day. It just looks so much more like a complete car and not just a Model 3 with a higher roof
It's good to have choice innit
@@antonthompson7838 hahahaha we'll see about that :D
@@SiisKolkytEuroo south koreans are taking all markets, even the almighty american music and movie industry
@@jh5kl what on earth does that have to do with Tesla vs Volkswagen
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Always appreciated your fine work!
It appears that they copied some design from Model 3 some 5 years ago
Perhaps next iteration from VW in 5 years will look more like VW
I'm really happy they went with drum brakes. With the winter conditions and road salt we have in Norway this will for sure be a huge benefit in terms of maintenance.
Is VW the cheap brand of Skoda now ? The Enyaq looks way more premium than this, hum not sure about the VW group strategy here...
The strategy of the VW Group's strategist is to push Škoda to make cars similar to Dacia or some Chinese crap. However, VW and Škoda effectively have independent teams that try to do their best and which aren't controlled and can't be controlled by a "strategist" and Škoda - which is a company with 125 years of experience in finding simply clever engineering solutions - simply ended up with a cheaper car that is €10,000 more luxurious than ID.4. If VW Group wanted to erase its profit and go bankrupt soon, it could return to the "strategy", to ban Enyaq, and produce the sale-proof ID.4. Of course, the group may also do the opposite, i.e. to focus on the production of the better car, including the production in Zwickau in East Germany.
Volks-wagen means "peoples car" and will never be taken as serious as Mercedes or Audi, so maybe they should position it that way (even though they most certainly will not)
My thoughts exactly, all new VW cars kinda look cheap now..
@@lubosmotl5200 I would disagree. That's how Skoda was in teh late 90s. Now, they are trying to push all brands upmarket. Audi on a par with Mercedes and BMW, VW to almost take over where Audi was, Skoda is now almost on a par with where Volvo was 10-20 years ago. Solid, semi-upmarket and dependable practical cars. SEAT is now on a mission to be VAG's Alfa Romeo (and possibly Jaguar). I agree with Emilien, the Enyaq looks much more upmarket than this, very similar to Peugeot in many ways (another midstream brand that is going upmarket). This ID4 looks like a normal family car without any flair or elements from a more upmarket car. Perhaps they don't want the Audi sales stolen by VW. In many ways, I like that VW are going back to their heritage, but this is just a little too far downmarket, especially after the cost savings done to the Golf8.
@@Keesiskaal They don't look cheap externally but internally they are cutting corners everywhere and it shows, shhhh, don't tell anyone, they think we haven't noticed. It's false economy on their part. I've owned them for many years, looking to move on to another brand now.
Those window, mirror & light controls are infuriating! Technology for technology’s sake. Why ruin the most used & simple controls In a car?!
Because it reduces complexity which reduces manufacturing costs. I would agree with you if it were a regular gas car but it is incredible hard to build these EVs without losing money.
@@devilfriend if you depend on reducing manufacturing costs on changing switches to make your car profitable then the future doesn't look bright for your company. Not to mention that the simple controls which work perfectly already exists. Furthermore I don't know anyone who had. any problems with the window/light & mirror controls. To finalize : the old system was intuitive and far more safer than the new one ! Over to you....
@@peterpoppe4855 I agree, this is why the most "successful" EV companies are still losing money. There are going to be a lot of sacrifices to make for a few years. Also, car makers are trying to pinch pennies every time they can so you have a point too.
Because they're cheap to manufacture. Touch screens have their place, but they should be banned there.
@@patrickdaly5988 fully agree
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Really appreciate the thoroughness of the review and the no non-sense approach to car reviews. Thanks
Wow.. great video again Thomas 👌🏻💪
The Enyaq could easily be a SUV with a combustion engine from the optics. The ID4 looks like an electric car immediately.
It's a wild vs. a simple design. Both will find their customers.
I prefer the Volkswagen ID4
@@hiiiofficial8306 well, you already call yourself “Volkswagen Official”...But I definitely prefer Skoda design
Nice review! However, really not down with where VW is going. They’ve always been known to keep things slick and simple. It seems they now look for ways to overcomplicate things. Happy I didn’t even put down a deposit.
Great work, Thomas!
Again! The best review in web sites
Great review Thomas! Nice car and your suit is great!
A very good and detailed review! None of the other reviews show the car close up and explain the features, nice to see the systems and car close up
On time with the review as always 😎
Seems the ID.4 is more in line with what VW should offer although it shares some of the interior parts with the ID.3 like the front armrests and the IC, but it makes sense after all since the price is quite good being that it is an EV with a decent battery capacity. I like it
I've just driven the ID.3 and, even after having seen all the videos online with it, I was still pleasantly surprised by the car. It really looks better seeing it in person. I expect ID.4 to have at least the same effect
I just put a deposit on a Dusk Blue ID.4, pretty excited for it!
I always feel like I need a cup of fine whisky in my hand to watch this channel’s review.
wow so many reviews in 2 days. Thomas is on a roll
Thomas, I like how you give your opinion of every detail about the car. Nobody has yet mentioned about the difference between the trim levels and whether the upgraded front and rear lights will come with the higher trim level. Also you explain about the rear drum brakes, where nobody else has done that. Thanks for showing what is under the front hood too. Your videos are always done with the highest quality. Thank you.
thanks Rick! Feel free to recommend :-)
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I prefer the Skoda Enyaq
No way vw id4 is more refined and premium I prefer the looks of the ID4 however some people prefer the Enyaq
It's cool, they will still sell this for over $40k in the US..... Who's going to make the first common man's EV ?
@@Aaron-ui9tj done long ago, Renault, Nissan, even Volkswagen with the e up and its even cheaper brothers
Enyaq is a bit cheaper, and has some extra minor features here and there. Quality wise, all depends on the finish you order. From what I have seen the Enyaq seat are exactly the same as in ID.4. Not similar. The same. The high end versions of Enyaq are equally luxurious as ID.4
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wow 2 new reveals in 1 day, Well done ! , I was waiting to see this. Not too much difference from the Skoda Enyaq as expected
Not sure how I feel about the Skoda's LED front grill yet, but it sure looks better overall, as does the Seat alternative.
Why would the led grill be a problem, it's an optional extra. I agree, vw's new models does not seem to be worth the premium over seat and skoda.
The speaker is looking very slick. Nice suit, way of talking and expressing himself. Attention te details. great video
Another great review, Thomas. It will be interesting to compare this vehicle with Skoda Enyaq when full pricing and specification details are released
16:35 really a nice song, thanks for the tipp.
And nice Review 👍
Thanks for another great in depth look at a new car! Something I'd really love if you guys could tell us is where hard-plastic/scratchy plastic starts in interiors.
Thomas da best👏🏼
Can't unsee the Peugeot 3008. Great video Thomas
Thanks for measuring the booth with metre especially with rear sits down. Great review!
I was lucky to see one in disguise wrap in the VW "showroom" in Central Berlin when I was there on holiday 3 weeks ago. It looks good in the metal as well as on video. The shape of the plastic trim on door bottoms is "very Renault"
I agree with you, doors seems very tall from the side with those big grey plastics
Looks simple and elegant!
You have become the reference in car reviews.
Only you doing every time best review
Thx so much!
You're a pro, nice performance and very nice car!
Thanks as always Thomas 👍
But from the profile, i see a Peugeot 3008, that’s...special. Let’s see for the price now...because fighting the enyaq and the model Y, this ID4 has to be cheaper if Volkswagen want to sell it imho.
Exterior: This ID.4 is the son of a 3008 and a Mazda CX-7.
@@brobrosu1600 You take that back. Both the 3008 and CX-7 are infinitely better looking than this car!
Nice one Thomas!!....
thanks Peter all the best to you!
@autogefuehl how did Honey Yellow look in real life? Which would you personally choose - Honey Yellow or Dusk Blue, or Mangan Grey?
VAG is exceeding its limits, design-wise. Enyaq was looking awesome. This one is also another great example of the same.
Greetings from Finland!
The frond and the back are looking good!
Good review, would be nice to see the lower trim level of 1st edition to compare the inside trim
The car looks very good, and we have already put ourselves on the list for it with 4 wheel drive. I have never had a car without spare wheels, and am very skeptical of the included compressor and the stick that usually comes with it. Is it possible to buy spare wheels for VW ID4, is there room for a narrow spare wheel under the lid in the luggage compartment, and in that case will the wheel bolts fit, or do you need other bolts? I hate low profile tires and rims, is it possible to have the car delivered with 18 "rims for summer and for winter wheels when the car is ordered new?
Do you know why they keep adding the side tunneling in the front bumper Thomas? I thought it was creating more drag on the wheels. For example, on the RS7 they closed it up as it had no benefit apparently.
I like it, it Will be my next SUV!!!
I really like this car and I think it will be a great success. The best thing about ID.4 is that it manifests that VAG is now really starting to pick up the momentum with electric cars and this is a very good thing (they are the world's largest car manufacturer after all) :)
Great review! I am looking for a new car which got enough room in backseat to carry three child seats(infant, 2 and 4). I like to buy an electric car. I got a Passat GTE at the moment. I don’t think I will get three in there, but is the Id 4 bigger/more spacey in the backseat than the Passat?
Warum diese Türgriffe? Ich dachte die 'richtigen' Griffe wären ein Sicherheitsfeature, jetzt diese integrierten Lösungen...? Wie funktionieren die beim Unfall?
These long form presentations are what makes me coming back to this channel. Does it comes in Thomas Blue™?
Great review. Thank you. I have just reserved an ID.4 "Pro".
Play and pause pedals, lol. Lover it.
it may be short front but it is made very clever to look like a normal suv. GJ!
thank you thomas
Very nice review brought so quickly after premiere.
Btw please continue to call boot and not switch to trunk !!
Thanks for tuning in, enjoy!
A refreshingly honest viewing and frank opinion on issues such as the capacitive controls that do not offer tactile feedback and the sluggish infotainment system. Drum brakes??? The 0-100kph seems sluggish compared to budget EVs. At least it has a tow rating. Why only offer AWD with high performance? AWD essential in this part of the world in winter, but do not need rocket performance.
Good looking car. The Skoda Enyaq too. We've seen the concepts and prototypes riding around from Audi, but not much from Seat except the (beautiful) El Born....
Beautiful car. Very clean
Thomas great that YOU observe and debate the lack of knobs and buttons. This needs to be adressed every day to the cheap manufacturers. Have they collectively fired the Human Factors department!
Interior looks superior quality to id3 with some soft plastics but not up with Enyaq. I’m waiting for Audi version of id3. I cancelled my pre order of id3 after your review and sat in a 1st this week. It’s not up to Golf standard. So thanks for your honest review of id3.
So they cancel all the buttons in favour of laggy touchscreen interface? good job there VW
It still officially a beta software. It isn't actually that laggy, but could see improvements. The Skoda Enyaq has way faster interface for example.
I will definitively wait for software improvements before considering ID.3 or ID.4.
Great review Thomas, do you think the move towards limiting top speed in EVs is dangerous especially on German autobahns???
FSK 160
Freiwillige Schnelligkeits Kontrolle ;-)
Very nice! Congratulations to Volkswagen for producing a world class electric vehicle. This is a good example that other German manufacturers like BMW and Mercedes Benz should follow.
Asking for one clarification please - is the pano roof actually fixed in place, and it just has an interior cover (sun shade) that slides front/back? Just curious as other VWs have a section of glass that opens up, in addition to the sliding interior cover. I actually hope it's a fixed glass roof, as VW and AUDI products have had a poor reputation for sunroof water leaks.
Hi. Does anyone knoes what is the life expectancy for the batterys (in case that the car is used the proper way, ofcourse)? If the battery does damage, are we force to change the all battery, or the battery is made by modules, and we only change the module that is damage, as happen with the Toyota Batterys? Does anyone knows the cost of a new module of the battery, or the all new battery? Thanks.
Car have ventilated seats ? In tropic heating is not so much need. Also winshield and side windows are atermic ?
Great review.
Watching you play with the map and other features was painful. You weren't kidding about needing a new CPU or more efficient software.
how drum brakes works with esc? nice design overall, it can be seen, this model is uni-geo.
putting at least a netflix app in an electric car is a MUST! (because of the waiting time while charging)
Best multitasking EV=Tesla
Excelente veículo e uma autonomia muito boa. Contudo, para ter sucesso no Brasil, teria que ter uma maior altura do solo.
Cool, I like it!
Finally, we saw a beautiful electric car!👌
Skoda Enyaq...
Just reserved mine here in the US. One thing I like about the ID.4 amongst other things; is the fact that VW didn’t use any fake gauges on either of those LCD screens. Hate when car manufacturers use fake digitalized gauges on EVs.
What is it with all these fake parts in cars? Did they have some mass resurrection of designers from the 1950?
Any word on relative quality of the sound system?
Great review. A difficult question to Thomas: How would you compare ID4 to the Audi etron? I have for some time wanted to buy the etron, but seeing ID4 (and Enyaq) makes me wonder what the difference is. We have 3 kids. Today we have two cars: Audi A6 allroad 2015, and Touran 2016. Obviously, the difference in quality is huge and I pick the Audi every day if I can get up before my wife. Now we want to go all electric, and sell both the Touran and A6 allroad. Is it correct to say that the etron is relative to ID4 in the same way that Audi allroad is relative to Touran? Or is the gap much reduced? In other words - does it make sense to buy an Audi etron or is it a stupid investment?
Good question. Like Tiguan vs Q8. Both good cars, the Audi is more refined, but logically not worth double the price.
Beautiful car nice review again 👍
0:27 do you know what this song is called? Thanks
From Eldorado to the Pleiades (instrumental) - DJoNemesis & Lilly
Florian J thank you 🙏
great SUV, which luckily is a bit more compact than the Enyaq. I am looking forward to the 225 KW version which should make a bit more fun to drive.
not seeing those interior color options on the pre-order page for the US.
I need one
Waiting for VW to announce this in Australia. Come on, we would like this now!
Looks like a good car.
The software looks terrible. I dunno why people don't just use google like the polestar 2. It's like some sort of 3g phone interface.
I couldn't agree more. I would much rather prefer the Android system for cars over this.
In the long term it can be beneficial to have their own software. VW is new to the game, they will improving over time.
@@jonpetter8921 Sure, but will they? This really does look rubbish and slow.
@@runningman5871 VW is a huge corporation. If Tesla can do it why can t VW ?
@@jonpetter8921 Because Tesla just has better engineers and trusts them. So Tesla make massive modifications every years to all products. The octovalve heat pump has had over 13 changes just this year. The model y is brand new, but they've just completely redesigned the manufacturing process to make the body in two completes stamping processes. They are light years ahead in terms of manufacturing.
If the battery is completely drained, will you be able to open the door?
I wish Thomas would offer more comparison points when he is comparing cars clearly built on the same platform.... i.e. Enyaq vs id4 look/feel/dimensions etc....
Really don't like the styling inside or out compared to the Skoda Enyaq. It'll be interesting to see what the Seat and Audi versions look like.
I currently have 2018 Tiguan with horrible and dangerous DSG and I swore this is the last VW I will ever have - now with ID.4 I have to reconsider, really interesting car. Next car will be plug-in hybrid or EV. Tesla 3 / Y or ID.4... hmmmm. Excellent review as always!
dope car!
Would do with Matt Black wrap
@6:35 what was that? 😂 “no Frunk”
Nice looking car
It looks so much better in blue.
So the panoramic sunroof has a sunshade?
Nissan Ariya will also be a good competitor.
I'm very excited for this car. I only wish it had a frunk. But the AWD model will make up for it.
Nope, others have all of the above.
@@krane15 Then I guess a mach-e or model Y is in your future.
@@Demobot1 All I'm saying is that when a new type of car is introduced -- especially an electric one -- its needs to have everything all the other have. If it doesn't at least meet their capability, then what's going to interest new buyers?
One compromise isn't too bad, but a series of them and all the interest wanes. The frunk is a feature that all electric cars have had since their introduction. If a new one is missing that, you feel like you're been short changed unless they wow you with a different new features. The only feature of this new VW are the seats, everything else is lackluster. Now if the ID.4 had double the driving range, then it would make sense. For now its just one of the crowd and sits towards the bottom of that pile.
@@krane15 I hear what your saying but your wrong. Every can can't have the same features that other cars have. Case in point in that the Nissan Ariya doesn't have a frunk . But like the ID.4 the Ariya has a spacious front cabin. Also the Ariya has a center arm rest that can be moved forwards or backwards. The ID.4 has a opening in the rear seat that you can pass long items through.
In regards to the ID.4's range, if it had twice the EPA rated range it would surpass any and all Tesla's buy a country mile. Thus isn't a reasonable expectation yet. And I'm ok with with the ID.4 being at the bottom of the EV pile as long as it fits my needs.
One of the best looking VWs. Don’t like the missing window switches or the white parts inside on the 1st edition. I’m boring I like the single color interior. Lol
Well that looks like an impressive effort.
I do wonder what kind of pricing games dealers will be playing when this becomes available.
With Tesla, you know where you stand but regular dealerships and their "Let me talk to the manager" style are old hat and that could be the deciding factor for me.
Since diesel gate, VW has been on the outs with the public and it's going to take a lot of new attitude to get me into their dealers again.
Will there be a R-Line design level too?
The white design will not stay white really long... Especially the white steering wheel 🤦 that's crap in day by day use...
The default in ID.4 1St and 1St Max is actually black steering wheel.
Nice suit :) I'm advising a friend on moving from ICE to EV, he has 3 children and an XC60, do you think the rear space is comparable to an XC60 ?
Thanks! Yeah definitely
@@autogefuehl Thanks
Maybe it is just me, but the rear end reminds me a double chin. Still, I can't wait to see the production model for Canada.