Prepreg Carbon Fiber Ducati Lower Farings - Super Light Panigale Part 2
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- čas přidán 30. 11. 2022
- Hey everyone
Thanks so much for all your support. Can't wait to share more CF builds with you guys.
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Links for the products I used in the video
Fluted Signboard:
www.easycomposites.co.uk/flut...
Filleting Wax:
www.easycomposites.co.uk/soft...
Chemical Release Agent:
www.easycomposites.co.uk/easy...
High Temp Tooling Gelcoat:
www.easycomposites.co.uk/eg16...
Chop Strand Mat:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2329862922...
Tooling Resin:
www.easycomposites.co.uk/uni-...
XC130 Prepreg Carbon Fiber:
www.easycomposites.co.uk/xc13...
XC110 Prepreg Carbon Fiber:
www.easycomposites.co.uk/xc11... - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Not for the faint of heart. That is some serious commitment to make those parts.
I didn’t think I was going to like the outcome do to the fact of how you placed the first layer, and cut out the lettering. It’s not how I would of expected it to turn out. It’s different. And I like it. The end product turned out amazing. 🤩
Thanks so much for your kind words 🛠️🤘
I follow other channels on carbon but you are simply on another planet ; good job dude
Thanks so much for your kind words! 🛠️👍🤘
@zrcarbon9937 do you make custom carbon fiber fairings for all bikes if so I got a full set of fairings for a 2002 gsxr600
Hey
Yea, I can make that for you. Send me an email zrc.works@gmail.com
Cheers
Just what I wanted to say .
Thank you mate. Now I don't have to be so scared to try this. Watching your successful trials is inspiring
This first layer of CF is AWESOME! I think it’s sooo unique and cool. Definitely gonna throw some on my duc soon
Great videos ZR. Thanks for sharing!
Oh and yes, absolutely fan of the final looks!!!
this is incredible!! i have to admit i was skeptical at first but then quickly realized your masterfulness
Thanks so much for the compliments!
Wow this is amazing. I’ve been looking for someone to do this so I could have some sort of direction. I plan on doing thing to my 23 SuperSport. Thank you so much! Much love, and keep up the hard work. Us as viewers appreciate it.
Thanks so much for your compliment!
I wish you the best for your project. 🏍️🛠️🤘
Wow, that's amazing! You're done a really nice job with that.
Great video! That random piece look works well
Excellent job on your project. it looks great. Excellent video too. Keeps me inspired on my own carbon projects 👍
Thanks so much for the compliment. I’m glad you’re found my video useful. Keep going with your projects 🛠️🤘
Using the chloroplast and hot glue looks really efficient. Way to go! Thanks for sharing!
Hey
Glad it was helpful! You are so welcome!🛠🤟
Top work man. Absolutely beautiful 👌
Thank you so much for your compliment. I’m glad you liked the video 🛠️🤘
My compliments brother, great job and well done, you have given honor to the Italian bike.
Thank you 🛠️🤘
Great work. The top layer is an interesting alternative to the forged carbon look.
But rotary tools and sanding sponges aren't my first choice for CF. PermaGrid blocks all the way^^
Anyway. Nice parts, nice bike. I'm jelly
Thanks for your compliment and your recommendation on sanding cf.
Honestly I had a diamond grid block for this purpose but somehow I lost it. Since then I haven’t ordered another one. I’m still hoping the block will turn up 😁🤞
Thanks so much for watching 🛠️🤘
That's a fine el done job! Congrats! 🏆
Thanks so much 🛠️🤘
subbed.. amazing detail to your work. very informative for a newbie like myself. keep it going man.. 👍
Thanks. I’m gala you’ve found my video useful 🛠️🤘
Brilliant! I'm just playing about doing a few mtb parts at the minute found this very useful thanks.only one downside! It makes me want another ducati hahaaa Good job sir.
Thanks very much for your kind comment
I hope your project goes well 🛠️🤘
Wow incredible work tanks for sharing
Thank so much! I appreciate it. 🛠️🤘
Wow, answers for almost every questions so far. I would buy a video instructional from you, just hope you sell them. Interested in creating carbon moto parts, especially split-molded gas tanks
So much effort for detailing. Lots of time and money poured in. Amazing job you done. If i want to do same job, maybe it will take one whole year to learn the basic. Only the basic.🎉
Thanks for the compliment. It doesn’t take a lot of effort learn how to do it but it is worth it at the end 🛠️🤘
Amazing nice and big job dude 🎉🎉🎉
You make it look so easy bro! Well done.
I appreciate that! Thanks
Awesome work
Thanks very much! 🛠️🤘
beautiful... now i just need a ducati..
I really like the carbon pattern. Different is good 👍
Thanks man! I think the same, different is good 🛠️🤘
That was a cool way to use the pre preg. Better than the forged carbon look in my opinion.
Well done.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the feedback 🛠️🤘
Wow this is pretty cool, the way you do it is very nice👍👍
Hey
Thank you! Cheers! 🛠🤟
Nice love it ❤
this is incredible!! i would have messed up the brackets so bad
Thanks! You may want to try you never know 🛠🤟
Amazing carbon flakes
I would put the gold reflective tape behind the exhaust side. This video is so awesome!!!
Hey Thanks
Yes, I will be doing that later on after the parts had a clear coat.
Thanks for watching🛠🤟
Очень качественная работа ⚒, это действительно круто 🤘
Dude, awesome stuff@
Thanks man! I appreciate your comment 🛠️🤘
Not a fan of the CF layup, but really a fan of the video. The mold is done perfect and the part itself looks good aswel! Great job!
Thank man! I appreciate your words! 🛠️🤘
very good sir. It helped us.
Thanks! I’m glad it was useful 🏍️🛠️🤘
you're not paying the script writer enough
Yeah you’re right! Definitely I should get paid more 🛠️🤘
You did an amazing job bro. Looks great buddy, I love it. I have a 1299 S model.
Thanks man! I appreciate your words! 1299 is a beautiful beast too. Be safe out there. 🛠️🤘
@@zrcarbon9937 you're very welcome man. You be safe as well. Most of my riding now is on the track and occasionally weekend Canyon rides.
I’m jealous. Not canyons in the south of England. Keep it safe! 🏍️🤘
@@zrcarbon9937 Yeah I do consider myself lucky with some of the riding spots that I have not to far away from home. Especially being able to ride all year long. You to buddy ride safe.
just perfect!!!!
Thanks so much! 🤘
New sub! Awesome job 👏 👍
Thanks so much bro 🏍️🛠️🤘
very cool thanks for the vid
Thanks, my pleasure 🛠️🤘
The reason I don't do carbon parts on my projects... I can shave a lot more weight off by cutting burgers and beer (and it's cheaper!). 🤣
The look on this is cool. Awesome job.
Thank you! 🤟
Insane Project, love the pattern. Most People would sand out all patterns in the mould, but making it a logo again was awesome.
Was hoping for a more drastic weight reduction, but these are the smaller parts anyways.
Hey
Thanks so much for your compliment.
I tried to do something different with the logo.
Not easy to reduce the weight on an already light ABS plastic part.
Thanks for watching! 🛠🤟
@@zrcarbon9937 Exacty, I can't imagine that Ducati would make them heavier than they have to be. After all these parts barely have to withstand any forces.
Would be interested, how a cars front bumper would compare, but since I'm in germany, this kind of stuff would be highly illegal..
@@m-tech1816 what you mean it’s illegal to buy carbon fiber and epoxy?
After reading your comment I had to do some research on this, and to be honest I couldn’t find a single thing that said buying epoxy or cabin fiber was illegal for private sales.
@@buddtwin2 yeah no, the material itself isn't illegal at all but you go straight to jail if you even think of putting self made parts on a car and driving that on the streets.
If you hit a person, the material could chip in a way, that makes sharp edges, which could harm the person. It's dumb, but it's the law here.
So I could build a carbon fiber bumber, but then I couldn't use my car anymore..
@m-tech1816 what country are you in because your definitely not referring to laws in the United States
great job, i wondered if you were going to go to a different colour on the DUCATI name. The triangular make up of the pre preg was a great idea, cool finish
Thanks so much for the compliment
My idea was to leave it as it is. In the sunlight the Ducati would pop out. That was the reason why I tried to lay down a forged looking first layer after the letters. 🛠️🤘
Lovely wprk and a very good vedio
Thanks so much 🛠️🤘
Really liked the details, not a fan of the triangular pattern of the first layer, but the detail of each step is excellent 👌🏻
Thanks for the support and your compliment.
I thought, I’ll do something different. 🛠️🤘
Bravooooo!!! :O
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching! 🤘🛠️
Great Work. Not a Big Fan of the Layup, but Great Work you are doing. But i´ve got an tip for you. If you wanna glue something on the backside of carbon fibre there is a special Peel Ply which leaves an Surface you can directly bond to. So you can save time sanding down the places where you wanna glue.
Thanks so much for your compliment.
Please can you share with me the name of that peel ply.
Thanks for your help. 🛠️🤘
very cool work!
3-4 parts moulds, I know for myself how difficult it is.
I can not overcome pinholes in the laminate:) Tried to change curing time, make part from 3-4 pieces to avoid bridging- same problem(pinholes) on angles.
Hey. Thanks so much for your compliment.
I had a very small vacuum leak when I was curing the part. My vacuum pump couldn’t over step that.
Thanks so much for watching! 🛠️🤘
Awesome
Thanks 🛠️🤘
C'est vraiment super top !!! Mais pour le collage plutôt du scotch aluminium moins de travail. 😉
Thank! Yes I will take your advice for next time 🤘
thank you so much
Thanks man! I’m glad you’re liked my video 🛠️🤘
Never heard it called Flute Board, i know it as Coroplast, but flute board sounds better.. great video thx
Thanks so much 🛠️🤘
Looks great. Do you just run it with the epoxy finish or do you clear coat over it?
Thanks
I use a product called Mipa P67S to fill any imperfection. Than clear coat it after
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Wow.. 😮
wow😍😍
Thank you! 🏍️🛠️🤘
Awesome work, keep going!! Could you tell me what is condition of oem fairings after making mold? There have to be paint again or after polishing will be good to installed?
Hey
Thanks so much for the compliment. Yes, the panels are good to go back after a good clean. Nothing sticks to the parts if the mould releases agent used the right way 🛠️🤘
Bought to make my entire cbr600f4i carbon now lmao had plans on making fiberglass fairings but carbons stronger and just as light weight so carbon it is
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Nice
Thanks man!
@@zrcarbon9937 welcome man..please make Moore video
Lindo trabajo
The parts turned out great! Amazing job 👌🏽
But I'm curious as to why did you use breather material only for the small piece and not for the main one. 😅
Thanks so much 🤘
Sorry I don’t really know what you mean. Could you give me a time when is that happened in the video. 🛠️
Usually you wouldn't wait for the Gelcoat to fully cure. It's way better (and easier) to wait it to cure to B-Stage (a few hours, if you touch it the gelcoat is still sticky but it doesn't come off) and then you apply your tooling resin with reinforcement. This way the bond between the gelcoat and the resin with the reinforcement is also chemical, not only physical, and therefore way stronger. We do molds like this in about 3-4 hours of work (before demolding)
Hey
Thanks for your advice.
I tried that before. The high temp gelcoat not compatible with the tooling resin I’m using. Least the gelcoat has to fully cure. The tooling resin will soften the HT gelcoat if it’s still tacky and delaminating the layers. Never worked for me. I’m saying this out of experience. Maybe you’re using a different type of resin or gelcoat. 🤷♂️
Thanks anyway 🛠️🤘
@@zrcarbon9937 To avoid compatibility problems between the gelcoat and the mold resin, simply make a first layer of fiberglass with classic polyester resin, wait for this layer to dry, and make the following layers with the mold resin. This is the method I was taught at work 👍
@@zrcarbon9937 Before unmolding, I also advise you to put your mold in the oven for an hour at 50°C to improve its resistance over time and avoid deformation linked to shrinkage
Чувак! Сходи на толчек. Облегчи свой вес. И оставь красивый красный цвет байка)) Ирония конечно.
Is this the Ducati panigale 1199 r tricalore??? Thats a dream superbike!
AWESOME JOB!! What brand of vaccum oven and what size? Thanks bro.
Thanks so much for the compliment. I hope this is the pump you were asking for. www.easycomposites.co.uk/ec4-composites-vacuum-pump
Great work, man👍 How much lighter are these CF parts compared to the plastic OEM parts?
Thanks for the compliment
In the video at 26:36 I measured the difference in the. About 260g
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@@zrcarbon9937ou did! I watched the video in two sittings, stopped the first around the 18-minute mark. Cheers.
Wow
Nice video's and thanks for sharing! Do you experience any issues using the polyester based tooling resin for curing in the oven at 120 degrees Celsius? And is there a reason you don't use a coupling coat? (Not needed with an epoxy base coat?) Cheers! Kris
Hey
Thanks for the compliment. It is safer to use coupling coat yes. If the gel coat is fully cured the tooling resin won't be a problem. It works great for me on 120c. 🛠🤟
Good to know. Your vids are inspirational for me to try prepreg also for some smaller car and bike parts, most of the time I do a wet layup, and more recently I've switched to resin infusion, much cleaner way of working and less stressful.. I see you did use a coupling coat in your newest video 👌
@@zrcarbon9937 I see you use tape on the inside of your plug for the hotglue. Have you tried glueing directly on the part, and removing it with pure alcohol in a spray bottle? Can come in handy, but the tape is the safest way for you original part I guess..
From Malaysia...😊
Nice!
Thanks for watching bro! 🛠️🤘
Hey
I wanted to know how well the part behave or hold it's strength in such a close vicinity the exhaust?
how well has it been holding it's shape
Hey
The ABS plastic can only take around 80C. The prepreg good to go up to 130C. I don't think I will be having any problems with that.
Hi. Amazing Videos .i see allof them. why u use the x130 as surface ply and not the x110?
Hey
Thanks for the compliment.
The reason was because I found the xc130 way more tackier. The xc110 450g is easier to use for the on second layer. More manageable in to the tight bends and corners.
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If I were to make stuff from carbon like this it would mainly be for looks. The performance gained is minimal. I may start with small pieces for rc, and not even weave carbon but forged for its ease. Do you have any tips for creating custom molds easily?
Hey
The easiest way to make a mould if you use a 3D printer.
Also you could build and design your own pattern by hand using foam board for example. Than make the mould of that.
There are several ways to do. You could find plenty of resources about it on CZcams.
Thanks 🛠️🤘
Great job.
Do that prepeg carbon fiber need to be in low temperature fridge or not?
Thanks
Thanks for the compliment.
Unfortunately this prepreg should be kept in freezer -18c
@@zrcarbon9937 thanks for your answer but ..
How do they ship it then???
Sorry for bothering
Hey man
Please ask if you have any questions. Not bothering me at all. The prepreg can be kept outside for about a couple or few days on room temperature. To preserve the epoxy in the prepreg must be kept in the freezer airtight. I only defrost the amount I usually need in one go. You can read more about this prepreg here: www.easycomposites.co.uk/xc130-210g-22-twill-3k-prepreg-carbon-fibre
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@@zrcarbon9937 thanks buddy. Once again very helpful 👍.
Greetings from Italy 👍
Does the white glue added the weight to the CF?
Hi
Yes it does. But not much. About 10g
Total Witchcraft….😂 Very Impressive. Do you offer any for sale?
Thanks for the compliment
Unfortunately I won’t be selling any of these parts. 🛠️🤘
Can I get pre prg carbon lay over a car bonnet then vac bag it that way then add resin layer. Iv done loads the other way dry
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I never seen before such a thing, prepreg used for skinning. Also don’t forget get you have to cure the prepreg. I think it will take a lot more work and time than the traditional way.
Thanks so much for watching
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WOW, so awesome of a job. Question, I have a set of 88-96 Fairings and these are no longer available anywhere. I need at least one set and I know for sure I do not have the skills or tools to do this. could I pay you to make em ???? I can send the pieces if you are willing.
Hey man
Thanks for the compliment. Send me an email to zrc.works@gmail.com
I need to know more details about your project.
Do you take on commissioned work? I’m looking to get a set of swing arm covers made for a Suzuki TL1000R…..
Hey
Yes I do take commissioned work
Send me a massage to zrc.works@gmail.com
Thanks
Hello
What mold release agent did you use?
Hey
I used Cemical release agent. Easy composite branded.
Thanks for watching 🛠️🤘
I think you should get a smaller brush that one isn’t small enough for the gel coat!!!! Lol
The purpose of using the small brush. I was able to break the surface tension and get into the corners much easier. Les likely to have air bubbles trapped on the surface. The small brush is even more useful when the temperature is lower than 20c and the gelcoat is too thick. 🤘
Unfortunately I didn’t have a smaller brush on me 😝
I like it you pointed that out 👍🛠️
so, CF can only save about 1/3 of the original weight, right?
Depends on what will you replacing with CF. If you replacing metal parts with cf the weight saving will be bigger. On the video I abs plastic with cf. The plastic was already light so the difference in weight wasn’t too big. 🤘
Why do you let the gel coat cure before applying fiberglass?
The gelcoat has to fully dry before the tooling resin applied. Otherwise the resin will bubble up the gelcoat. 🛠️🤘
Крутой
Thanks! 🛠️🤘
Very nice! Can I buy a set from you?
Hey
Thanks. I’m not selling the parts at the moment but I’ll be open for business in June.
If you have any question please ask 🤘
What tool do you use to cut the PREPREG?
Hi
I used a scissor to cut the prepre🛠️🤘
Is cordless drill can also be polisher?
Yes
sweet runoff. nice layup mold.
Thanks so much man! 🤟🛠
Man Why you use the xc 130 and xc110 instead of just using xc110?
Where can I buy that kind of carbon fiber with self adhesive im from philippines
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I bought it from easy composites. Its called prepreg carbon fibre. Maybe you could look around on the internet, try to find a supplier closer to you. China almost deliver to anywhere around the world.
What is your weight scale unit?
Just an electronic postal scale
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115269505985?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=g12NYGvoT1i&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Nd9jAfoXSxW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Oops i mean it's measured in grams or imperial unit?
Grams. Thanks so much for watching!🛠️🤘
What is the name of the chemical you used for the mold first?
Called High temperature gelcoat. You can find the link for the gelcoat in the description below.
@@zrcarbon9937 Thank you for your comment.
what type of carbon fiber did you use
Hey
I used prepreg carbon fibre xc130 210g and xc110 416g
Irgendwie verstehen die Leute das mit dem Carbon noch immer nicht. Ich hab mit dem Werkstoff seit 20 Jahren zu tun. Nur weil ihr ein Teil zuhaue backen könnt, heisst das nicht das es die Struktur hat die es braucht. Schaut man sich hier in dem Video an, wie das ganze ausgelegt wurde, dann geht es nur ums Gewicht sparen aber nicht um die Steifigkeit. Und dieser Punkt ist genau so wichtig.
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Wow 20 years! That’s amazing! In which area were you working with carbon fiber? 🤘🛠️
what is the name of this type of carbon fiber looks?
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I didn't come up with any name yet for that look. I was just thinking to do something different. Forged prepreg. :D
Thanks for watching!
18:02 what plastic
Hi, how did you protect from UV?
Hi
The prepereg I’m using has UV resistant resin. Also the part can be clear coated for more protection. 🛠️🤘
Hi
The prepereg I’m using has UV resistant resin. Also the part can be clear coated for more protection. 🛠️🤘
@@zrcarbon9937 thank you
Any weight savings?
Hey
I had a few 100g saved