Using Ingram Spark and KDP Together
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Very well spoken and fast. Ha ha. Since I’m familiar with both it reinforces what I already know. But I like the perspective. You are a delightful person. I just issue 2 versions(which are the same) of the same book with different isbn’s, and that way I get the best of both worlds. You have to pay to publish on Ingram but it’s only like 50 bucks. Both great companies but they shine in different and unique ways. Thanks!
Thank you, Emma. I will use both. KDP won't print children's books in 11 x 8.5 landscape. Ingram Spark will. As you said, KDP won't print hardcover. Ingram Spark will. So, there's good reason to use both.
Very nice video that explains the two services. Thanks for making it.
Hi Emma
Great helpful video, its good to know someone else is going through the same process Thanks
Thank you! Exactly the information I needed just now 😊
Thank you! IS is so hard to use! I had no idea they had presales on the paperback books.
There's a few tutorials out there - it's not so bad. There's a tutorial for setting a kids book up on there in one of my playlists x
Thanks for the information. Very helpful!
I'm glad 🙂
Thank you so much Emma. great information!!!
You're so welcome!
Thank you Emma, your lovely!
Thank you!
Great video, Emma! Thanks for explaining! I've e-published a few books on carpentry on Amazon before, but may be moving onto a project with paperbacks available soon. A quick question: years ago, when Createspace was still a thing, a friend put the paranoia in me that by making print copies available on Amazon, you essentially had to consign future print rights of the whole book to Amazon. Is that still a thing? Does Amazon take away / claim any rights that would endanger possible acquisition by a traditional publisher somewhere down the line? I like the streamline process with Amazon, but I've always been terrified of losing publishing rights to them in the fine print somehow. Thanks again!
Thanks! The book content is still yours, so you can pull it whenever you want. If you sign up to being a part of Kindle Select (Kindle Unlimited) then your ebook is exclusive to them, but you can pull it from the program. If you use one of their ISBNs then you can only use it with them - that might make things a challenge, but you can still unpublish it and then republish elsewhere (although it wouldn't entirely vanish necessarily - could still be available through second-hand sellers). The bottom line is that you are the publisher and the book is your copyrighted property.
@@EmmaRosenBooks Perfect! Thanks so much, Emma! That's exactly what I needed to know. You've got a great channel, I'll keep watching :)
This was a nice bit of lovely 🙂
really helpful thank you !
I would have listened to you with focus but your cuteness would let my eyes focus on what are you saying ❤❤
Thank you Emma. Good info.
Thanks!
Great information! Thanks Emma!
You're so welcome!
Thanks - that was helpful.
awesome video - thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, Emma! Really good information I would say, especially at 13.15--import the book/files from KDP. How simple is that? I would have never have guessed you could do that. It was one of those moments when "solution" lights up in your brain. I had a feeling something like that was going to happen as you were talking, so watch the WHOLE VIDEO everyone!
Very, they do it for you. Just fill in a form x
Love this video!! Thank you. Do they require different formats/bleeds, or could I upload the same illustrations in the same specs to both
They're similar but sometimes the same files can throw up errors with one or the other. Off the top of my head, the main difference is barcodes (with Ingram you supply them).
Emma Rosen Books wow thank you so much!!
Great Vid as always - Thanks for sharing your advice. Now to help this American newbie: So, I have a kid's book that I want to do hardcover, paperback and ebook...Would you recommend doing hardcover and paperback via Ingram first? Then do KDP for e-version? Or do you recommend I use Ingram for just hardcover and KDP for both paperback and e-book? Also, just to confirm, the paperback and the hardback require separate ISBNs, right? Thanks in advance for your help. Be blessed, Ben
It's up to you really, there's lots of ways to go about it. I have heard lately some people have had trouble combining the two, but see how you get on! Both of those options are good, and you can always change it in the future if you change your mind. And yes, the ISBN is specific to format.
Hello Emma, thanks for the video! I just had a conflict between Ingramspark and B&N. I knew that you shouldn,t do expanded distribution with KDP, because it meshes with Ingram, but wasn,t aware of the same situation with B&N, so then i asked myself do B&N press actually print their own book? Weird? I have my own ISBN (free in canada Yeah) and when I uploaded on Ingram I couldn,t because the ISBN was already registered by B&N????? Anyway got that figured out after talking to a 4th Ingram Spark customer service and filed a title transfer form which is going to take a month now.... arghhhh ..... Like you I think about royalties and upload direct to KDP and B&N for print. So when you upload do you follow a particular sequence 1-Ingram, 2-KDP, 3B&N to avoid any overlap? Did you have any experiences like this? Are there big differences in royalties between those 3? With Ingram do you do the 55% return and book destroy incentive? Thanks Love your video, Guy
If I want to publish two paperbacks on both for same story, with IS (groundwood) and amazon (cream paper), where should I publish first? And can I still use the same isbn?
Great job. I wish that I could have seen some screen shots. This is a bit confusing at first. Thank you for your video.
If you go on my channel page under children's book there are some videos of uploading to KDP and I gram if that's what you're looking for x
Hello Emma and thank you for video. Helpful. If still checking these comments, quick clarification: I intend to set up hardback first IS, then several weeks later go out with paperback on both KDP and IS. I would set up KDP first, I believe. I will not do preorder on any of these. I have own ISBN, and know has to be same for both KDP and IS on paperback version. Is there any reason I should transfer over KDP version rather than uploading all info on IS after KDP, using the same ISBN--or will IS not accept the self-bought ISBN that I already used on the KDP version? You talk of transferring over, and I find reference to such from IS online, but it says on the site that if have KDP version (and no expanded distribution) with own ISBN you don't need the 30 day transfer, you just upload all on their dashboard. Is that correct? Thank you.
Hi Emma, love your videos. Question: I just published my book on IngramSpark. The paperback is still in processing. When I got to KDP to do the ebook (Kindle) and the paperback do I need a completely different ISBN and barcode or do I sue the ones i used for Ingram? Thanks so much!!!
Thank you! Use the same ISBN for the 2 paperbacks. Kindle technically doesn't need one, although if you publish for other ereaders you may need to
Thank you for the helpful video.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, great video. Does your ingram retail price need to be the same as your price on KDP - when using both together? G.
I believe it's written into the KDP agreements somewhere, but basically if they found out you were undercutting on the same edition it could cause trouble.
Hi Emma thanks for all your videos - very useful. I've written a childrens book primarily for my grandson and am in the process of illustrating it mainly with photographs as it's about my dog Rex! Do you have any advice with regard to the quality of pictures I need? Most of mine have just been taken on my phone - will they be good enough for print when blown up for a picture book? This is my first book any advice appreciated! Thank you Di.
@@dianebatt1668 scanned illustrations typically have to be 300dpi so I expect photos would need to be similar? You might want to have a look at how Bethany Atazadeh made her confident corgi book for some ideas on using photos x
Thank you for the great video! When you talk about having Ingram Spark transfer a book over from KDP, is that a case where you can’t be use a KDP ISBN?
Yes, that's right
Just want clarification, So I can have 2 ISBN for kindle and my paperback on KDP. Then just have a separate ISBN for Hardcover on IngramSpark? Same title and cover? Just so I can have my book for Hardcover to sale at book stores only? Thank you
Hi, yes a separate ISBN for each format (Kindle doesn't require one but other ebook vendors do). You can enable expanded distribution with Amazon but the royalties are very low compared to IS. Or you can use both together for the same format (and in that case they would have the same ISBN). However works for you!
Great info, Emma! Quick question. I know that I have to use IngramSpark as the distributor of both paperback and hardback for my pre-order. But, how then do I switch to using Amazon KDP for paperback going forward so that I can take advantage of the quick printing and the better payout? Thanks!
Personally I use them together. KDP just fulfils the Amazon orders
Thanks for this great and helpful video! I'm thinking of doing a picture book but since KDP can't print the size I need (8.5 x 11 inches landscape) that leaves me with Ingram. The thing is my book is 220pp and full colour so the cost for print is high (especially with Lulu). What do you think of doing picture books as ebook on KDP and then print version on Ingram? (Hope your arm is better:)
Hi, yes it's no problem to do that (it's what I do).
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thanks! I'll do that
Great video! I'm curious, if I own the ISBN and publish a paperback on both Ingramspark and KDP, can I list a higher price for my book on IngramSpark since the royalty rate is so much lower than KDP? Or do I have to charge the same price for the book on both Ingramspark and KDP platforms?
You could I guess, but I don't know if it would cause trouble with your customers/ the platforms if they notice / Nielsen if the data doesn't add up.
Thanks for this video, very helpful. so if I have a kip paperback and ebook but start my own imprint, should I remove the first version and republish new version with kindle with new isbn?
You can make a second edition if there are big changes yes.
Hello, im a bit confused about the iSBN, Should I have an ISBN for my KDP paperback and another for my Ingram paperback? Or should they have the same ISBN? Also, how about the ebooks on both platforms? Same ISBNs or seperate?
The ISBNs are per format, not per platform - so you can use the same ISBN for the two paperbacks. If it helps I made a video about it - czcams.com/video/NbhOx1cfUhY/video.html
Currently going through IngramSparks ... I hadn't considered using both IS and KDP. Interesting. Cheers.
no problem!
Nice video Emma and informative.
I am thinking of using both KDP and Ingramspark.
If publish my book on Amazon with my own ISBN and contact Ingramspark about publishng my book as well do I need a separate ISBN?
Technically - no. They are the same book
Hi Emma. Thank you for the great video, and consider me subscribed! I wonder if you or one of your viewers could answer a bit of a niche question for me. If I published on KDP first, using my own ISBN, and checked the expanded distribution box, could I publish a slightly different version (with added images/illustrations) on IngramSpark under a different ISBN, or would I be subject to legal action from Amazon? The title would be something like "Original Name" on KDP and "Original Name: Illustrated" on IngramSpark.
Thank you! You can definitely do that. Or don't tick the box and use the same ISBN and publish on both.
Thanks for the fast answer. I'll definitely be listening to more of your videos.
Thanks for this great info. I am not sure if I understood this - I create a book with KDP, use my own ISBN - then later I can upload the book with Ingram S and still keep the same KDP? or would Ingram S need me to use a new ISBN? Thanks for sharing this wealth of information.
Same ISBN for same format x
Thank you for sharing your experience, Emma. I’ve published four children’s books with KDP. The first two books I published with KDP and used their free ISBNs. The second two books I published with KDP and used my own ISBNs. I recently republished those first two books and now all four books have ISBNs that are mine. My next step was going to be uploading my books to IngramSpark but after watching your video, I’m thinking I just need to reach out to IngramSpark and fill out a form to move the books over? Is that right? Then later, if I want to make a hardbound book, I’ll assign all four books new ISBNs for the hardbound version, and upload directly to IngramSpark. Also, what do you set your wholesale discount rate to? I was told industry standards are around 45-50%. Again, thank you. I appreciate it. Rachel
Yes, because the ISBN has already been published you need to ask for the title to be transferred to Ingram. You won't be able to publish directly - the site won't allow it because the ISBN has been used. It's easy to do x. My discount is 40%, but each to their own!
@@EmmaRosenBooks Does this mean the inital KDP ISBN's stay the same, and we can have our own ISBN on Ingram, and this is allowed still?
Very helpful.
Hi Emma, helpful vid. I have had an e-version sitting with Amazon kdp for a few months with my own ISBN. I was recommended to change to IS and take my e-version down from amazon. As a newbie I did this. I then discovered there was some small print on IS saying if this book had been previously listed with Amazon IS will not publish it on Amazon for 12 months! Imagine my horror. However it initially appeared to have loaded with the new cover etc, but it is not through my existing author page but on my personal amazon account. More horror.
Can you recommend what should be done to correct this so I can utilize KDP properly once more?
If following your recs in vid to request IS to distribute your amazon book - will I still be able to have it in the new cover ? or should I correct it all when IS upload old version? Complicated man!!!!
In the video I was referring to print - not sure if the ebook works the same. I didn't use IS for ebook (because mine failed their web-checks due to the references).
Hello, Emma, Great video. I was planning to go with Ingram Sparks for paperbacks to take advantage of their pre-order option. Then I was planning to also put a version on Amazon 10 days before the digital goes live to capture reviews before the digital goes live. If I understand correctly, the best way to do this is to create a book with a separate ISBN for Amazon (with something like an author interview in it or something). Is that the best way? Will Ingram still send copies to Amazon of their copy? Thank you so much for your time!
You can, or you can list the same book with both. KDP will supply Amazon and Ingram will supply everyone else
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thank you for the wonderful advice. Just to make sure: I can list the same book with both, using the same ISBN? Provided it's my own purchased ISBN, right? Thanks for clarifying!
Nice. Quick, and to the point. I like the idea of 2 separate versions. Or, one eBook and the other paper. Listing with Amazon with ebook. while Paper pack elsewhere.
Does anyone have a comment D2D or Ingram??
I use D2D fo ebooks. You could have a hardback and a paperback through the 2 services?
I’m writing a children’s book and I’m not too worried about pre sale but I do want my book available to bookstores as well as have amazon’s higher royalties. So if I wanted to use both IS and KSP can I set up my book on IS without presale ? And use their expanded distribution ( using my own ISBN) then set that same book up on KDP ?
You can, but it might be tricky to get the dates to tie up, you could set up IS a couple of days early and then press go on KDP when that day rolls round? Just be aware that sometimes the files don't go straight through and that might add complications if you want them to be the same. Or, set up KDP and then transfer the title to IS? that will transfer the date over?
Thank you for this video! It answered some the questions about Ingram Spark I had. One thing I don't quite understand is their handling fee. If I'm orderings from them directly it is $1.99 no matter how many books I am ordering at one time. But what if I people are ordering through Amazon? Is there a $1.99 fee every time someone orders? Sorry if I missed that. Thank you again!
No, the handling fee is just when you order author copies. When Amazon order they pay the RRP minus the wholesale discount (although goodness knows what postage or fees Ingram might add?)
@@EmmaRosenBooks Gotcha! Thank you so much!
If I have paperback with IS and Amazon - can I use same ISBN for both. Or should I get separate ISBN for each one - to prevent some kinda confusion between the two parties!? :D
You can use the same for both. They only need to be different for different formats (i.e. hardback, ebook)
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thanks Emma :D keep up the great vids!!
Hey Emma. Thanks for the info. Can I publish both on Amazon and Ingram? I have published my books on Amazon. I want them to be available in stores too so I wanna publish them with Ingram too but I get the error that this ISBN is used when filling out the form on Ingram. What can I do if I do not want to pull out the book from Amazon and at the same time publish it with Ingram too? Thanks
You can ask Ingram if you can transfer the title. You'll have to remove it from expanded distribution (which is probably what's causing the snag). Then you decide whether to keep it on Amazon or not.
Thank you for the Info! I am from India. I want to release my novel as an ebook in India and not as a paperback. But I would like to release as a paperback in US & UK through KDP. Is it possible to do so?
I believe so
Hi Emma, thanks for sharing. If I plan on publishing a print version on KDP (not expanded) and on Ingram for expanded, can I use the amazon free ISBN for the KDP version and just buy my own for the Ingram one? Thanks!
If you did that you'd have 2 listings on Amazon because Ingram will distribute to them and Amazon won't pick up that it's the same edition.
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thanks! I guess it should be possible to ask Ingram not to distribute over Amazon?
@@danielegolfs unfortunately not
Hi Emma, thanks and the video was mostly helpful. BUT... I have a question. You say in the video to start with KDP first in order for Amazon to lead the way for Amazon sales (higher royalty). However, then you say, if you try to then list with Ingram, the process will fail because it will say, "sorry, ISBN already exists." So........If you list with KDP second in the process, and you DO NOT do a pre-sale, then who, theoretically, fulfills the book if someone purchases, for example, Book #1 on amazon? Thanks!!!
Amazon will fulfil their own orders unless they already have stock from Ingram, so if Ingram shipped some before Amazon 'took over' then they'll have to sell off first. If you list with KDP first it's a simple enough process to port the book over to IS and they're helpful in how to go about it (and then you can work with both companies that way too if that's how you want to do things). There's ways around however you want to launch your book
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What was that beginning lag? I don't know if that was my Internet or not.
If you keep KDP for e-books only and then use IngramSpark for paperback and hardcover copies, would it mess anything up? And thank you so much for all the information. :)
That would work if that's how you want to do it - although you still wouldn't get the better royalties for your paperbacks x
@@EmmaRosenBooks Okay, i'll then have paperbacks for both KDP and Ingram. Thank you!
If I already have my book in Amazon KDP with a free ISBN and publish again with Ingram with a purchase ISBN, this count as a new edition, right? Even if the book is exactly the same. Do I need to avoid choosing expanded day distribution from KDP too?
Yes it's a different edition. You can list it on KDP as it's technically a different product. Not sure it will link to the other one on the same Amazon listing, it will appear separately. Also,you can't ask Ingram to not supply Amazon, it's just that if you use KDP they don't order it from Ingram, they override it with their own books.
Thank you for the info. So Ingram Sparks is not a vanity press? They don’t ask for publishing fees like BookBaby? Just a $49 to publish print & hard copies? Thanks for your help in advance.
Yes, just $49 and you can get codes to get it for free often if you google it. If you want any copies for yourself (to sell or keep) you have to pay printing costs, but otherwise they handle it.
Great video, do you have any insights about opting-in for bookstore returns in ingramspark? Do you know how that actually works?
If you select returns you are liable for the postage to have it sent back to you. Personally that just made it too expensive to choose that option.
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thank you for your kind reply Emma! That make sense to me, although there's people that says that most bookstores won't buy a book from a publisher that does not accept returns. Based on your experience, would you consider this to be truth?
If you fill out the form to transfer the title from KDP to IS, do you have to go through the process of reloading files to IS?
No ☺️
Thank you. So, would I create a new account like a regular member or fill out a different form to get started?
Hi Emma, I am about to publish a color paperback book which is 260 pages. I checked the printing cost through KDP and it's really expensive and I need to price my book really high in order to make some royalties. Generally speaking, do you know if IngramSpark have cheaper printing costs for colored books (or for books in general)? If I went with IngramSpark, my book can still be sold on Amazon right? (but I need my own ISBN rather than the free KDP one)? Thanks so much for your help!
They have a price calculator so you can compare - but yes full colour will be expensive. Ingram do sell through Amazon.
@@EmmaRosenBooks That calculator was super helpful, thanks! I only need to refer to the "Publisher Compensation Calculator", right? (Not the "Print and Ship Calculator) Do you know if it's possible to only print certain pages in color rather than the whole book?
sorry I meant to say - still keep the same ISBN I used with KDP
So, for clarification, if my print book is on Amazon through KDP and I was assigned a free ISBN for it, I cannot put it up on Ingram Spark?
that's right, you would have to use a different ISBN, which would mae it a different edition and both would be listed on Amazon (although likely that their own version would be more prominent)
Hello, I'm so confused. I want to do pre-orders for my paperback/hardback through Ingramspark and pre-orders for my ebook through KDP. I already have my paperback/hardback approved and available on Ingramspark. How do I make my paperback/hardback from Ingramspark show up on my book's Amazon page with the ebook?
They should automatically link up, but if they don't just let Amazon know. Claiming your books on your author profile in Amazon (you can create this) probably also helps.
Hi Emma, could you tell me why you prefer to go softcover with KDP first and then to IngramSpark? Another author on a video about getting the best of both worlds, suggested you go IS first, list it with a discount of 30 or 35% to get the book onto Amazon, wait until things have calmed down after the initial sales surge and then upload to KDP and tick “ no extended distribution” I am not interested in book shop sales as my book is directed at a niche audience but also an international one. It is all a bit confusing I know but any help is appreciated. You talk about this choice around 11.40. I appreciate how you and most other authors acknowledge these comments.Thanks so much.
I do go Ingram first so that I can set a pre order phase, but be aware that when you then start up with KDP they will have to sell their Ingram stock before you start seeing sales from them.
Thank you for this info. It's very clear. Except for one thing: If I publish a KDP paperback without exapnded dist. first, and then 2 months later publish the same ISBN paperback with IS, will IS reject it because it already exists on KDP? If so, then that means in order to take advantage IS paperback dist. network, I would have to transfer my KDP title and data to IS.
This transfer would then take my book off of KDP, right...which would defeat the purpose of publishing IS later in order to get KDP 60% royalty on amazon sales, rather than IS's lesser compensation. So, is there really a way to have paperbacks of the same ISBN with both IS and KDP, while saling KDP paperback on Amazon and IS paperback all other places? Thank you for taking the time to read this.
You can definitely transfer without removing from kdp because that's what I've done, no obligation to delete it x
@@EmmaRosenBooks Ahh okay...so you have transferred for the sole purpose of making the release of the IS paperbak possible. However, your KDP paperback still is first priority on Amazon, it's only that the legal ISBN paperwork has been shifted to be in possession of IS? I'm surprised Amazon let's the title be transfered yet still sells it on their behalf.
@@Losingmymindnamerica as long as it's not on expanded distribution with KDP it's not a problem to have it with both. You own the ISBN, effectively they are printers and distributors. I actually had it with IS, then both, then just KDP, then back to both. KDP will override IS for sales on Amazon.
Hi Emma, so transferring titles from KDP to IS is really that simple? Does it really take 30 days? And Amazon will still sell your book as long as you don't select expanded distribution?
@@TGey86 yep! Just contact IS and ask for a form. Do check the metadata once it's over, I had some missing info to fill in x
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Hi! I am extremely confused about the ISBNS (as well as many other things). Through no fault of your own, just general confusion.
#1. If I buy my own ISBN, can I use it on both the Ingram paperback and the KDP paperback?
#2. If there are minor differences between each publisher's books (ex: one hardback has a dustjacket while the other one doesn't), do I need different ISBNs?
#3. Is there any way for IngramSpark to not distribute my book to amazon?
#4. Do I need to do ebooks on Ingram, or can that just stay with KDP?
Thank you so much!
Hello Emma, do you know anything about publishing children’s books with hard cover and pages. 10-16 pages long.
Thanks
I've published a hardcover children's book with Ingram Spark. 10-16 pages seems very short - is that double pages?
How does this work for ebooks? I was thinking of using ingram spark for my ebooks but I wanted to manage my own Amazon account myself, but let ingram distribute them everywhere else. Is that a thing?
You can. I use D2D rather than Ingram for ebooks
Hi @Emma I'm from the future :-) and across the pond (Ireland) - Thanks a lot for that video!
My book is on KDP and author central (not expand dist) and I now want it to be in IngramSparks, but largely so it can be orderable through Barnes & Nobles. (and Waterstone also)
Questions:
1. I got the free ISBN for my amazon version paperback, so does your advice to ask Ingram to "transfer my data from KPD" work in that case? And if not, and I have to buy new ISNBs, then what'll happen to my paperback? 2 ISBNs??
2. Is the cover template for ingram spark the same as B&N? (I'm potentially terribly confused with this...)
3. I am hugely appreciative of your time and if I need to get a short session and pay you instead of answering here let me know.
Thank you very much indeed, Mahayana
Hi! The free ISBNs are exclusive, so yes you'd need a new one for Ingram, they won't use the KDP one. I don't know about B&N - you'd have to have a look at their file requirements and compare. Might be ok.
@@EmmaRosenBooks thank you kindly
I read an article that said Ingram gave free isbns
Can you use the free from each? Or you must purchase if you want to publish with both
Yes they do now - that changed recently. I guess you could do. It would mean you get 2 listings on Amazon because they would be seen as 2 different editions
@@EmmaRosenBooks hmm I might just do that then. Because it would save me $100. Aside from the 2 listings do you see any down side to going that route?
@@artofapril no - you could do hardback through Ingram and paperback through kdp so they're different? Or just use Ingram and then have the lower royalty rate through Amazon?
Thanks for the video!
Can you tell me whether the paperback price on Ingramspark has to match the price on Amazon? I think the book has more chance of selling at £8.99 rather than the heavily-discounted £9.99 that IS works out at (to give me a 1p royalty!). If I charged £9.99 on Ingramspark, and £8.99 on Amazon, would that give problems? Would Amazon price-match?
Also, what currency should the barcode be in, if I hope to sell in the UK and abroad? Do I really need to have a price in there at all?
Could you drop the wholesale discount on IS? I set mine at 40%
Also you can choose a currency, and you don't have to have it on the barcode if you prefer
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thanks... but apparently IS take 15%, which is why they recommend 55% -- to leave the bookstores with 40%. If I start with 40, doesn't that mean the bookstores get 25% , which is too low for them? It's a real problem for me to get over, this wholesale discount thing, and I suspect I'm getting too bothered by it. My printing cost is high, at £4.97, which leaves me nothing unless I reduce the discount.
And whatever I go with, should the prices match on both platforms?
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thanks again! I'd rather leave the price off the barcode, as long as it doesn't upset the bookstores...
@@2011zurich no - most of my traditionally published books on my bookcase don't have prices. Although it's usually printed on -but it doesn't cause enormous problems if it's not.
So I have decided to do both. You're saying the easiest way is to upload to KDP first, then request ingram to also carry it? I'd like to upload to both next week if possible
Are you going to do a pre-order phase?
@@EmmaRosenBooks no pre order
Yes might be the easiest way then so you don't have to do 2 separate uploads? If they charge for transfers (I can't remember) like they do for uploads then look for a discount code.
Hi,
I want Ingram spark to handle the POD for the paperback format of my book, and want Amazon to handle the Kindle and audio formated versions of the book. I am going to buy my own ISBN number for the Ingram spark paperback format and use Amazon free ISBNs for the Kindle and audio versions, however, I would like All the available formats to be listed together on Amazon. What I am confused about is, do I upload and format my book on Ingram spark first then they'll list it on Amazon or do I upload it on Amazon first as the Kindle with the same paid for ISBN number? I use for Ingram spark - then upload it to Ingram sparks?😏 Am I supposed to upload it to both websites separately?
Please Advise x
It shouldn’t matter what order you do it in - the books will tie up. If they don’t then you can sort it via Amazon author central
Hi Emma, I have published with KDP. I'm now wanting to expand my distribution and considering Ingramspark. I was wondering how your experience was with Ingramspark and any recommendations you might have? Thank you
I like them! Works well with bookstores etc.
@@EmmaRosenBooks Hi Emma, thank you for responding. Take care
I'm a little confused. I just want to print a book. I am not looking to publish it per say, I just want to print the book that I created. Cant I just choose a good book printing company to do that with out the extra whistles? like marketing etc. I just want to print my book for myself and for family. Thank you. Can I use ingram spark and other things just to print copies, no strings attached? Thanks! I dont want a distributor, I just want to print my little book as needed and it seems very hard to find a quality company that can do that with out adding more services than I want to purchase. Thank you
If you don't want to sell it, yes you can just go to a printer and order however many you'd like
If I were initially using IngramSpark and wanted to create a KDP account for the same book with the same ISBN, wouldn't that lead to duplicate book pages appearing on Amazon? I'm asking as I'd really like to get my book on Kindle Unlimited, but it seems like a difficult process right now.
No it’s fine. It’s the other way that’s tricky as it throws up an error with IS. And no it doesn’t duplicate - KDP overrides IS on Amazon. They’re the same book just essentially from two different suppliers and Amazon will buy from its own.
With KU you can’t have the ebook on any other platform at the same time as it’s exclusive.
@@EmmaRosenBooks Cool! OK that makes sense. I guess I'll just make a KDP account then and disable e-book distribution on IS so the e-version is exclusive to amazon. Thanks!
Dear Emma,
Thank you very much for this useful video. I know that you also sell your books through your website. Do you print them in a local printing services? I am thinking of that option along with KDP and Ingram Spark. When you sell the books through your website which shiping company do you use? Many thanks for sharing with us all your author wisdom. Its much appreciated. Kind regards Denitsa
No, I buy author copies from my POD platforms. I can't store masses of books anywhere, I only keep a stock of about 30
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thank you so much for your answer. For your website did you use KDP or IngramS as a POD? I am asking as when I click on buying it comes up a Paypal payment and not an amazon website for example. Or they are connected somehow`? Sorry Maybe its a silly question... THANK YOUUUU
@@denitsa511 on my website it's a signed copy shipped from my house - I get slightly more money when the books are bought that way. If you buy from Amazon or wherever I'm not involved, it comes straight from POD. I use Amazon and IS.
What I don't get is for Amazon, how do I actually sell the books using Ingram Spark or KDP? What I mean is, on Amazon there is the sales page of the book where it has the information and the reviews, and on the back end has the meta data. But when you click on the sales portion, various book distributors pop up, including Amazon, and the customer chooses which one to buy from. So how is this set up with Ingram Spark or KDP?
I'm not sure what you mean - the universal book link?
@@EmmaRosenBooks No, I mean how do you actually get the set up for the Amazon title page that displayed your book, do I do it myself? Also, how do the book sellers know to sell my book? I just don't get how to set this up. If you click on a book on Amazon to buy, it takes you to a page that lists a bunch of sellers, including Amazon offering free shipping, and the the buyer chooses 1. How do you get those sellers to sell your books?
@@Acujeremy I think I understand - when you publish your book through IS or KDP they automatically send the metadata to the vendors to list your book. You don't have to do anything. If you publish through KDP they will create an Amazon listing and then if you choose expanded distribution they will also send details to everyone else. If you publish with IS it automatically goes out to all vendors.
@@EmmaRosenBooks Oh thanks for that. So basic but I haven't seen anywhere that mentions it. So with KDP they take care of the entire Amazon page including keyword search terms on the back end? What about with IS, do I make the Amazon page? I thought POD services are just there to print and distribute, I thought I had to contact all the retailers and sellers myself.
@@EmmaRosenBooks Thank you for that information. But who notifies the various sellers to sell your book? Amazon is the marketplace but you buy books from sellers. And who sets up and manages the page, including the back end metadata for IS and KDP? Also, if using IS, how do you get Barnes and Noble to sell your book on their website?
How do you undo the distribution if you clicked it in KDP
I can’t remember if you can deselect it or if you have to contact them. You may find Ingram spark throw up some issues as it has been available in the past. Perhaps check with their customer service
If you created a KDP listing... could you get Ingram to remove theirs? I rather not be in the dark on Amazon sales however I also don’t want the 2 listings to compete...
If you give it time Amazon sell out of the IS copies and then they just sell their own.
Hi, I hope you're still checking these comments. I have a paperback that has been sitting in review status for 6 days through kdp. I own the isbn. I used Ingram for the hardcover. Since kdp is taking so long and I am desperate for author copies, I uploaded the paperback to Ingram with the same ISBN and await their approval. My question is that Kdp did the bar code as my cover did not have one. The cover file uploaded to Ingram for paperback doesn't have the bar code. How does this work if I want the book in bookstores? Does Ingram provide a bar code with a price or do I have to buy one, and re do the cover for Ingram? My children's book is a 36 page full color full bleed 8.5x11. I have a retail at $12.95. Is it worth going through the process to offer a 40% discount minus the $4.50 print? Do book stores even purchase paperback children's books? Thank you!
I do! Your cover for Ingram does need a barcode so they might kick it back to you. Yu can generate a barcode online though and add it to your cover design. Use Ingram's royalty calculator to see how much you will make with those prices and dimensions. I don't sell a lot through stores, but Ingram makes it financially viable, and also the stores will actually buy from them (they don't tend to like KDP's expanded distribution in my experience)
I’m not sure if you still check this post but it was such an exceptionally helpful video. I normally don’t leave comments and even check the comments but, wow!
The community on your page was excellent at asking questions. All the questions asked were some that I had. When I still had questions, the next comment answered them. I appreciate you taking the time to respond to a lot of them. I made a list of questions I had to research and all of them were answered here(in regards to publishing and ISBNs).
So, all in all, thank you!✍️📖📕☺️
I do, and thank you!
I'm not sure what Ingram Spark does, do they act like a publisher or are they just a distributer? you have them print your books and thats it.?
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KDP does not do returns and that is why stores do not stock. And IngramSpark has book returns which is taken out of your profits.
Mine are set to no returns with IS which may discourage some stores. But, it's more to do with the lack of partnership with KDP.
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Anyway, saving for later when I'm a little more focused on this phase. Sounds like useful info, but work and craziness are stealing my time lately.
Hi Emma, can we publish no/low content books on ingramspark?
I believe so
this video is very out-of-date now that IngramSpark has no publishing fee now. No more $49 dollars
It’s so great that they’ve removed this! the revision fee for 60 days (I recently made a video on this) The method and reasoning for using them together is still relevant but at some point I will update this.
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