Terra: The Dismissed Gem of Tenacity (Kingdom Hearts) -Character Dive
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- The First Iteration of my BRAND NEW SERIES, "Character Dive", IS FINALLY HERE! And I'm so excited y'all don't even know. Featured in this Episode; Terra from the Kingdom Hearts Series.
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Out of Kindness - Persona 5 Royal
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Terra's Theme - Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep
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In a way, you could say Terra is a wall that failed to defend against a hurricane, but never broke.
That's a pretty solid analogy, I like it
Finally terra being shown the respect he deserves. Awesome video btw.
It means a lot you liked it, I feel Terra hate came from more popular creators in the KH community doin him dirty and their viewers followed suit lol, and this video is how I honestly feel about Terra and I wanted to share it and hopefully give others a new outlook on him or at least getting them to think about his character more and really form their own opinions. So i'm glad you know how great he is too, spread the word my friend and again, glad you enjoyed the video 👏🏾
@@MetaSF_ Preach man! 😄 honestly I do agree, all the Terra hate seemed to arise from certain content creators in the community 😒 ones I don’t particularly care for. When I was younger I was a huge Terra fan and their constant Terra bashing made me feel so bad, almost like I was in the wrong for even liking Terra. I’m just glad to see that there are others that understand how wonderful a character he is. Bless you Meta for making this video and conveying all the truth and love that exists within the heart of Terra 💚. 😊
@@jesterartsdj3699 aye man always remember no matter what, dont let a crowd following the leader deter you from what you can clearly see the truth of with your own eyes. Terra is a great character all in all, like him or not, people should know he's great and always steps up, succeed or fail. People will see the light 👌
@@MetaSF_ wow, so well put, not gonna lie, that touched my heart meta 🥲. Thanks so much for your kind words, you definitely are right, I always knew Terra was awesome and I played his campaign so much I had his lines memorized in Japanese before the USA Release even came out lol 😂, but at times the louder voices in the community made me feel ashamed of that and well although I never conceded to the notion that Terra was a bad character I always felt I was alone in thinking he was great. Thanks for reminding me not to get so down on things like that. Bless you my friend and may your heart be your guiding key. Can’t wait to see more content from you regarding KH I really love your style and take on the series and the depth of your video analysis.
What can I say, I like Terra he reminds me of my older brother protecting our father while growing up in New Jersey. In a any case, don't let people tell you any other way. If you have a strong bond with your parental figure, my advice is this. "DON'T let anyone tell you otherwise, because that just let's your depression grow stronger. Be true to yourself of course. Remember.
"If you truly possess great darkness, the darkness can not harm you."
"You wouldn't a silly old coat to stay safe."(unless you're in deep winter)
"In Fact, you'll be controlling the DARKNESS instead."
"Me on the other hand, I'm too much of a scaredy cat to take mine off!"
Access Granted to my knowledge.🗝
Terra is the definition of I may be down but I am not out
Now that's big facts
Terra is what i would call the "struggling older brother" character. Always trying to be the example and be a role model for his peers but ready to admit his mistakes and fix them how ever he can.
Absolutely, he's not afraid to try and work on himself but still not neglect helping others like Cinderella, Ven whenever he's around, having thought provoking convos with Aqua even all the way in the Realm of Darkness, he always gives that effort man
Honestly im impressed with the level of writing with BBS, there is a important diference between how Aqua reacted to people in a new word from Terra, at least at the beggining, When Terra finds someone new that needs help his first reaction is to offer help, like with Cinderella and Captain Hook, and if he suspects that person isnt as good as it seems he investigates first, like the Witch Queen whose name i cant recall.
Then with Aqua we have her ready to murder Cinderella's adoptive family beause she "sensed darkness", who knows what would've happended if the Fairy godmother didnt stop her.
Terra always shows to be willing to do good, but also not act harshly upon meeting someone new, that open mind is what allowed him to teach to stitch about friendship, wich you can tell, stick to him.
In resume, the argument of people saying "How can you be so dumb, he looks so evil!" is so hollow, superficial and insulting to who the character is, and to the context of kingdom hearts as a whole, that you know the movies and know who the villian is doesnt mean the characters that dont even know their worlds will too.
You worded this AMAZINGLY man, Aqua is another character I feel people don't see her full quality of writing even though she is a fan favorite, so I may do a video in this Character Dive series on her in the future. But back to Terra, his case with Xehanort is a big one where it's silly people bring up the "he looks so evil how can you trust him" thing. The KH Universe is the real world to them so judging people as evil based off appearances is just not somethin you should get into the habit of just cause they look a certain way y'know lol, ESPECIALLY if that person happens to be a lifelong friend of your master who doesn't even want only darkness but balance in the World.
And like I said in the video, the things Xehanort asked of Terra needed to be done anyways, it was inevitable, which is how they all fell into Xehanort's scheme. And like you said, knowledge of the player isn't the same as knowledge of the characters in the game, we can't put us and them on the same playing field ALL the time, gotta dive into their own perspective too to understand them. For some it's a benefit to their character, and others...well they end up trash 😂
@@MetaSF_ Thanks, looking foward to your next videos, it's interesting getting someone to breakdown these characters without the fandom misconceptions about them.
Terra being a catalyst for Aqua and Ven’s desire to do what must be done and achieve their own goals is enough in itself to show how much value his character has.
He mirrors Riku but as a mature character’s response to failure and manipulation, his own resilience to overcoming his failures was what brought about the phenomenon that is the Lingering Will, an entity separate from heart and body but of emotion, something only Vanitas himself has been able to generate as well.
Riku was just a child and grew through his hardships, as he grew he was able to come to terms with his own darkness and find a strength to call his own, molded to who he is through life experience and aging.
Terra had to do all of this in a short period of time, he did overcome his failings at the end of BBS and then had to endure the consequences of being too late.
Terra is a symbol of endurance whilst Riku is a symbol of growth. Hand in hand their journeys provide a moral story of bettering oneself from strife.
Beautifully said, Terra handles things in a way that's really respectable in I feel that people overlook very clear things. Like I said in the video many of the things xehanort wanted from him either weren't inherently bad like defeating Vanitas and the unversed, or terra didn't do which was actually let the darkness take control over him cause he simply used it's power. So I still can't justifiably call him dumb. The unversed had do go, Vanitas had to be destroyed, he had to grow as a person to be able to trust himself and gain the trust of others with his ability against the darkness.
Xehanort didn't NEED terra to lose himself to darkness but having it at all just made it easier for Xehanort to wrest control over terra, but terra still never did wrong with that power, he was right to defend ven from eraqus and fight the unverse and even fought vanitas AND xehanort at once. He just ended up failing in that climax, they all got roped into exactly how Xehanort wanted things to go, for the moment at least.
But I love how Terra STILL gets put through the wringer in spirit and body and never gives up on either front. Completely separate entities and still resilient and a fighter all the way, for over a decade at that, the man is truly tenacious.
I played Vens story first, and I disliked Terra. But when Terra saved Ven from Eraqus, I started to warm up to him, thinking "I may be wrong about you". Then I played his story, and he became my favorite KH character
what a turnaround, man when his body got taken and Xehanort spun and saw Lingering Will still there and said "your body submits, your heart succumbs, so why does your mind resist", I KNEW, he'd be up there as far as characters go for me man, so much respect
Yes, just yes.
Terra is such a good character for all the things you said and more. Terra is honestly one of be favorite characters above even Lea, and Aqua who are also very high up there. I think I would likely put him on the sixth spot on my favorite characters list at lest until we get more story and the list charges.
I do sort of disagree about something you said about Eraqus. I don't think he was fueled by a dark power in BBS. When he says "my own heart is Darkness" what he is actually saying is that he is so set in his ways of Light is Good and Dark is Bad, since I just committed a evil act, logically it had to be fueled by darkness. Except it really wasn't the dark fueling the need to stop the War no matter what, or to fight anyone "possessed" by darkness. His motivations, actions, and consequences where all fueled by Light. And he will never admit that because he is blind to the fact that Light isn't always Good and Darkness isn't always Bad. A theme of KH that has existed since CoM if not before.
That said that is my own interpretation of what happened in that scene and I could be wrong.
yea with the Eraqus part that's pretty much what I was trying to say, not that his heart was entirely Darkness, but his actions were befitting of Darkness, not that he inherently used the power. Similar to how Riku and Terra used the power of darkness to fight in ways befitting of the Light, he just did the opposite in that instance. Although him killing Ven would've technically for sure stopped the forging of the X-Blade which would be a good thing, I don't really see it as an action befitting of the Light to take that method as the first resort really, especially someone who also was supposed to have a strong attachment to them. He was for sure blinded by his own strong light that he didn't see the specks of darkness in himself either. So it casted shadows in himself like what Xehanort said about Aqua and Ven's light on Terra. If any of what I said made sense, that's pretty much where I was aiming with that lol, there's layers basically on both sides
like the master of masters, who committed mass genocide and spurred on a war intentionally while opposing the darkness. darkness isn't only bad and light isn't only good.
This is why Terra is one of my favorite characters!
Next video: How Aqua ruined everything? (I dunno but when I replayed BBS for the second time, I started to think that Aqua was the one who pushed Ventus and Terra down the wrong paths. She held back the trust that Terra desperately needed, and when he found out about this, it just put him further in Xehanort's clutches. She also never forced Ventus to go home for some reason (In Radiant Garden, I still have no idea why she just told him sternly to go home but she immediately took off for another world, without taking Ventus home).
That's just my idea. I still like her I guess.
I wanna do a Character Dive video on her too at some point but basically what I feel is Aqua's like the opposite side of Terra, blinded by obligation still. Instead of proving herself like Terra, moreso proving she's deserving of the Master position. She was still pressured to do certain things like keep watch over Terra on top of the general tasks they both got, but at the same time she, Terra, and Ventus never would've taken Eraqus' words as incorrect I guess. And at the end of the day, they're all students under Eraqus, there isn't really seniority there. Aqua became a master but she wasn't Ventus' master you know, if anything Eraqus should've went himself if he really felt it necessary for Ventus to return cause Aqua had other business to attend to.
So basically, although Aqua was messing up at times like Terra, I can't critically put so much fault on her either. They all wanted the same things and even though she was now a master, she still was new to it and she got the biggest task of her life. She still had to grow to. So like Terra on one side that underperformed and felt it necessary to desperately prove himself as worthy, she had earned the spot but had to do the same thing except learn that there was much to reality than just a strict adherence to what Eraqus taught them and such linear lines of thinking. Aqua needed more perspective to draw knowledge from and appreciate more outlooks, and Terra needed more appreciation for his handling of his shortcomings. I can't say Aqua distrusted Terra but she was worried about him for sure which came off as distrust cause of Terra's feeling of inadequacy already. She also had a lot to learn and grow and appreciate and see more clearly just like Terra, I'm rambling at this point but that's my very rough train of thought lol
You got it, Nomura expressly wanted to show how light casts its shadow on others while the other shines. aqua pushed terra away in the same way Eraqus pushed Xehanort away.
Any terra positivity is amazing!!
Terra has always been my favorite of the wayfinder trio, and how his story went in BBS really affected me as a kid and I never had closure for his story. When I got back into kingdom hearts and learned about a fragmentary passage and saw his interaction with aqua, seeing that he was still hanging on and fighting back even a decade later, still trying to find a way to "set this right" really touched me. Terra also has a very unique experience with darkness; not only did he have 2 hearts within his own, eraqus' and Xehanort's, he also was the first to exhibit such strong will and purpose to continue fighting despite his heart succumbing. Furthermore, he is the only character we know of to be split into 3: heart, body, and mind, and still trying to fight back within all 3 forms; xemnas seeking the chamber of waking to find ven and still influencing him to talk to aqua's armor without remembering why, fighting back within ansem to find ways out, warning aqua in the realm of darkness, fighting to protect aqua and ven, his lingering will do powerful and emotionally charged that he is more than willing to destroy his body if it protects his friends with Xehanort. Even when Xehanort possessed him, he fought back hard enough that Xehanort's plan had a huge wrench thrown into his plan because he lost his memories. Then, later on, going into a 4th form as the guardian and finally taking control to protect his friends, he's had quite the ride.
I'll always have nothing but respect for Terra, always. Every character has been through a lot but with him and what he had to deal with being even more directly targeted AND still not letting himself be completely consumed for years and years and years, truly incredible stuff
Thanks for this video, man. I remember when I first played BBS and I saw what Terra was going through, I felt from the very start when he was told "if I could have I would've made you a master too but yea nah sorry mate" as consolation that he was a character I could relate to. Someone who always felt he was never good enough. A good person who wanted to do good but was underestimated, overlooked and not paid much mind to over others because of his shortcomings (in this case "susceptibility" to darkness) despite his integral presence as a big brother figure. Someone everyone should've been able to rely on, but his lack of confidence in himself made him unable to see so. You only need to hear his theme once to know that he is indeed the most heroic character in the series, albeit a tragic one.
You don't see many people saying Terra is their favourite character, but he is definitely mine. So it's good to see him be seen by others. He and Riku definitely had nowhere near enough moments as the badasses they deserve to be seen as in KH3, which was slightly disappointing, but can't be helped I guess :/
It feels kinda like now that they've hard their character development arcs, they'll be treated just as much like side characters as the Final Fantasy cast, but who knows. Hopefully Nomura proves me wrong in future titles.
...idk why I wrote all this haha
also #LingeringWill
No need to feel bad, I appreciate the long comment. Yea Terra absolutely is in my top picks of character favorites, he is a hero through and through even through his failures. Similar to BBS' already strong tie to Star Wars, Terra to me felt like Anakin if Anakin never fell in line with Sidious in the end, at least at will. Or if he had his body taken, destroying Sidious in the process and makin it so instead 2 evils still just 1.
In the end, im happy you enjoyed the video, I was passionate about doin Terra justice so thank you, I the support is appreciated
Could not agree more 😄 and his theme is badass! 😆💚
This video reminded me of a funny thing about a controversial take about Terra actually being smart.
And I believe it.
I like how in every scenario where he interacts with a villain their is usually hesitation and maybe little self talk. The barrier that is his will has always been there.
Always, he really gives me those vibes of a character that at first many people didnt like for dumb reason cause they weren't looking very well, but over time they really see how tenacious and respectable his will is. Even through Ansem and Xemnas, it's pretty great
i think the misunderstanding is because of nomura weakness as a writer is clear terra and co lived most of their lives shielded from the world and are naive and ignorant to it , if it was clearly established that his ignorance was being exploited by xenahort while showing his strenght of character better, people wouldnt laugh at him so much
@@alwaysangry2232 ...How is that Nomura's weakness?
If anything, it's the weakness of some of the public, who do zero thinking, including of obvious things
It's called 'show, don't tell', Nomura didn't need to tell us to our face that Terra was being exploited by Xehanort, it was an obvious thing that the public should've seen
Glad to see my boi getting some love and appreciation from the community. 👍
I'm glad to see my boy gettin more love, it always made me a bit sad that the fandom seemed to not care for him as much as other characters
I honestly still blame HMK and his gang for the hate wave that Terra got from the online KH community, super trippin, Terra's great, had to do justice by him so I'm glad you feel that way
Finally some gets just how strong Terra's will is.
Xehanort said it best when describing the Lingering Will
STRAIGHT UP, people disrespected Terra so much that I for the longest time thought people just had their eyes closed the entirety of BBS lol, it's pretty plain to see that Terra never actually did any bad deeds of his own nor did he use his darkness for evil deeds like even Riku would. Man I could go on several rants against some of these KH creators that slandered Terra not knowing what they talkin about LOL
Honestly it was super crazy how much he fought back even in the state he was in throughout the series
It's so good man, he deserves way less flack
Terra was the only one of the bbs playable characters I like, he actually has a really cool struggle
He does man, especially with Eraqus' stubbornness kinda robbing him of that Master title even with him being like a father to him, made Terra more desiring of it. Not that I dont get Eraqus' POV but it's a culmination of a lot of things ya know
I may be biased because I like his moves the most, but Terra remains one of my favorites.
After he hangs out with Aqua and Ven again in BBS2 (hopefully) I want Terra to hang out with Namine. Their dynamic has potential.
I agree, im personally a fan of I guess you can say, the uncanny or unexpected dynamics between people you wouldnt think would interact very much, actually becoming a strong bond that stands out and breaks the mold from the expected
This resurgance of Terra love and appreciation is so fucking refreshing. Seeing this character getting sidelined cause either A: Some people were too stupid to understand why in-universe Terra was behaving the way he was or B: Just bought into the memes and took them as gospel was infuriating. Even seeing HMK perpetuate this bullshit was blood boiling but seeing videos like this on my feed finally spitting respect on Terra's name is a gift and I am beyond grateful for it. Thank you.
You're very welcome, I love getting invested in these stories and looking at characters from my perspectives and not just falling in line with what some youtuber says and ending up just not really thinking for myself. I could never, I play these games so I can see what's really there for me to get engrossed into and separate player knowledge from in-game characters knowledge. COMPLETELY different spaces there. I like games that can meme themselves too but keep that separate and not take that so literally as what characters actually are cause that can definitely harm perception.
Take one actual look at Terra and like I say in the video, he's no idiot or fool. They all got trapped by Xehanort into doing good deeds that needed to be done but it causing Xehanort's plan to happen exactly as it needed to. They all got checkmated, but only temporarily. Terra's tenacity could never let him truly be gone, even over a decade later, if it weren't for Terra's influence on Ansem Seeker of Darkness, Xemnas, and Terranort/Apprentice Xehanort, key moments to defeat Xehanort wouldn't exist
Wonderful Boy ,generous,altruist, very very strong and amazing beauty ! Tenderly,protective and good with his friends Ven and Aqua !
My man needs more appreciation, and I'm glad he has gotten some more over the years
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS......... u put into words what i couldn't. terra resonated with me so hard and totally out of nowhere, he's what got me into kingdom hearts. i was shocked to find that this series i mostly knew about from jokes and memes about how zany it is had such a deep, moving character....... this video just made me so happy to watch. thank u for spreading the good word about our boy
It's my pleasure, and im glad you enjoyed this video. This is a series I made to really dive into characters and how I feel whether underrated, or great or even terrible, and I couldn't think a better way to start than when giving one of my personal favorite KH characters their due diligence and spread the truth about his excellence without following a crowd of negativity.
Like you said, people not into KH may see a lot of memes and jokes but the series cuts deep and has so much heart, I love Terra and I think he's fantastic so it was easy for me to compose this for him, I was so happy to do so. Again, thank you for the kind words Im happy you enjoyed it
every time I see the question "which Keyblade Master would you want to train under?" I always say "I would wait for Terra to become a Master and train under him." He messed up badly, but Yoda said "the greatest teacher, failure is". If that's true, then Terra has learned the most and fought extremely hard to make up for his mistakes.
Terra for sure gets far too much hate man, definitely blame the HMK hate train for years but glad many people can see just the quality in his characterization, I wouldn't be ashamed to train under Terra too cause he's been in the mud, he's down to earth too and knows what it's like to struggle
Finally someone who knows the truth! I have always thought that Terra was one of the best and most well written characters in Kingdom Hearts and that he was severely under appreciated! Bless you for making this awesome video and laying out the points for all to see. 👍 Again, Awesome Video man,I’m subbing just for all the Terra love 💚😊
Ayyyy, glad yo see another cultured individual enjoyed the video 😉 I just spoke from the heart and got logic people cant possibly deny or at least see a better perspective up, want this video to blow up even more so the enlightening can continue. Thanks for the sub as well! Means a lot to me, especially seein you understand the vibes 👏
I can tell 😊 the light in your heart really glistened as you made the case for Terra! I always wondered why it seemed no one noticed these points or how hard Terra tried to be better and to do better. Terra is the voice for all of us who have ever just missed the mark, or who put our hearts out there only to be dashed aside no matter our efforts and I always loved how resilient he was, knock my man Terra down 80 times and he’ll get up 81 😄 gotta love it! Meta on behalf of all us Terra fans thanks so much for voicing this opinion. May your heart be your guiding key my friend and I sure am happy to be subbed 😄! 💛
Thanks for the love twords my favorite Kingdom Hearts character
My pleasure, the people gotta know the facts
#LingeringWill Look I get that he may nit be the fan favorite but Sora deserves some praise. The scene where he smiles back at Donald and Goofy before releasing his heart, when he admits to Riku that the darkness gets to him in KH2 before IMMEDIATELY dropping his problem to help his friend first, and especially his many lines in KH3 showing that all his pain is still there behind the warm smile he puts on for others. DDD made him look a little foolish, but even in that game he has some stellar moments and his deep flaw of trying to save everyone needs more recognition. (Also side note: way back, I thought Terra was gonna be like a long lost brother since they share spiky brown hair but that never happened whoops.)
honestly even if Sora may not be normally somebody's favorite among KH characters, that man is still an icon tbh lol. We especially saw that with his smash reveal and all the moments leading up to it. But you're right, within the series he usually gets outshined. And like I say in this video a great character isn't created by their lack of flaws or being right all the time or smart all the time or never foolish or never blinded by emotion. It's how they handle each one of those things, grow from it, take it in stride, and how they are changed from it and how it's shown with their interactions with others. Sora even though loved, certainly can't be forgotten amongst the topic of others in the series itself, he's a legend and all hearts tie to him in such an epic way, especially shown in Blank Points.
The problem with Sora is that he became a Deus Ex Machina. He would be a fine character if the other characters were allowed to face adversity and solve problems on their own (like Riku meeting Aqua in the World of Darkness).
He ends up overshadowing the feats, relationships and merits of every other character, which is why some may dislike him.
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 sora was never a dexus ex machina. It was stated multiple times he wasn't chosen by keyblade. Even sora admitted it but glad to be part of a greater whole. Hell sora broke down after losing everyone and stated he's unless without them
@@xblade149 The fact that they claim he's not a plot device doesn't prove he isn't a plot device. He was still granted the chance to break the space-time continuum to save everyone, he still got bigger reactions from good characters controlled by the Darkness than anyone with an actual connection to them and he still won fight after fight despite being "weak".
Great Video, Waited So Long For Someone To Make This Video Of Terra (Thank You So Much) Can't Wait For What's In The Future For My Man Terra
Exactly!
I hate that so many people try an demonize Terra in the story, and claiming lots of plot points are all aimed back at him. But he was as much a victim as Ven and Aqua. He was lost in himself and Xehanort played on that to use him as a pawn without getting his own hands dirty.
I've always said Terra has been a "But look what she's wearing" villain. Because he's been used by the person he trusted. He isn't wrong in his actions, but misguided.
To me it's very similar to the Jedi and Anakin vs Palpatine, it isn't even that Terra/the Jedi's actions in 95% of cases are wrong, but it's that because of their nature, the opposition aka Xehanort/Palpatine just force them to a point that them doing what's right is what causes their downfall in the first place. Their are ways to avoid it yes but it's so difficult because of their nature to help and assist, they just get baited and set up for failure time and time again. And even so, they get SO close to winning, but not enough and end up having to endure the long game. And blaming so much of it on Terra to me, boggles my mind since him like the others hardly did anything wrong or bad in action, it was just an incredible trap based around their good actions causing his win
It's so sad how much responsibility for it they take on. Aqua and Terra both consider it a personal grievous failure. Then they both suffer trying to fix it or keep it from getting worse (Terra as Lingering Will and Aqua trapped in the darkness) they are so resilient for decades and clearly felt a lot of guilt the whole time despite them both being manipulated and failed by the masters. And then there's Ven, whose self hatred came from thinking he was the entire reason for all of this happening. Eraqus betrays him entirely not just by almost killing him but also by confirming this belief by telling him he needs to be destroyed in order to protect the light.
I'm so glad they have reunited and while I wish we could have seen them work through more of the trauma/negative beliefs, or the whole Eraqus scene being a bit less positive, they deserve to live their lives again.
I do have an idea as to why Xehanort decided to kill Eraqus himself. He and Terra had just stopped their fight to start reconciling, which would have put a halt to Terra's "dark road". And so, Xehanort changes tactics and full-on antagonizes Terra - killing his beloved master in front of him, destroying his home, threatening to kill Ven and Aqua if he doesn't come to the Keyblade Graveyard, and then separating Terra from his friends as soon as the three reunite. This is what happens when Xehanort starts trying, and it's terrifying.
...And, well, it's as you said. Terra and Ven were already in Xehanort's palm - their hands were forced from the beginning. It's only thanks to their strengthened defiance at the end - and Aqua's meddling - that his plan was drastically postponed.
#LingeringWill
Yea you got it right I feel, Xehanort took that step with killing Eraqus cause he realized that he wouldn't be able to have Terra's body so easily and Terra wouldn't fall so simply, he had to start using more actual force. People forget Xehanort can wield both Light and Darkness in balance, he's a real master and was an immense threat, that old body really was holding him back hard. The slow and steady approached worked but he couldn't get him through the door so he had to pull him by force. In the end, he still underestimated the 3 and I think especially Terra, even if Aqua was more of an in person threat, Terra never stopped fighting for so so long, incredible
just think this. in kh3 it took 2 xehanort clones to keep him entertained in the group struggle scene. guys a badass through and through
Not to mention the Lingering Will moment vs Terranort, he's got some incredible willpower man, so much respect
First I wanna say it definitely is nice to see people appreciating Terra, I feel like people either didn't pay as much attention to his story or just outright didn't play it. With a lot of people saying how skippable games are (For example people saying CoM is skippable with summary because Sora forgets about it anyway, insanely, people claiming Days is skippable because "it only provides character development." Which is what the series is basically about.. its story and characters. And people saying Re:Coded is skippable because it's purely data. Which I think is the only game that is truly skippable, plot-wise.) Anyway, my rant about people skipping games aside-
Keeping with a consistent question for a lot of these comments, what about Aqua? I honestly think Terra truly was more worthy of becoming a master than Aqua was, with the way their characters were. If Eraqus wasn't so opposed to darkness, if they'd been trained or tested by a master that accepts light and darkness are equal forces everyone inherently has (with exceptions), I think there's a chance it could have been him. That one cutscene during their test does make it seem like he'd use darkness for his own goals, but even he said he didn't know where it came from, so that obviously wasn't his intention.
Even if you think about how their stories progressed, I think Terra was a lot more worthy.
Aqua may have spent about 12 years in the Realm of Darkness, but (as much as I've looked into the subject, i won't go too in-depth) it's actually unclear how long she really was there. Time seems to flow differently in different points, but overall it looks as though time flows very quickly compared to the Realm of Light. Even based on her lack of aging you can tell she hasn't experienced the full 12 years. While we don't know how long it was I'm assuming it was at most only one year.
And even during that time she'd already began to give up hope. Sure, being in an entire realm full of darkness is different than an internal struggle with darkness, but she's had so many points where she questions giving into it. In the end, she actually does. Yes, she was thrown into the ocean of darkness, which seems to forced, but I'm unsure how much it really is. Since Riku was shown in a similar situation, but he may be an exception, since he's developed a 'resistance' to the darkness, stated in Dream Drop Distance.
Still, if you think about it, in the end Terra never actually 'fell' to darkness, however vague of a definition that may be. Yet Aqua eventually did. Aqua was a lot less determined, with her hope being questioned so easily, so often, she struggled to keep going, where Terra really never gave up, even when he'd lost his heart and body.
And, while we're on the subject, the way their stories end up is additionally frustrating with Aqua's arcs in Birth By Sleep. I felt like in the majority of worlds she'd learn to have faith in Terra, to have hope for him, and that hope would immediately be destroyed. She'd spent the entire game going back and forth on how she felt about Terra, and in the end she didn't believe him when they got to the Keyblade Graveyard. He admitted his faults, he admitted he had been manipulated, and Aqua continued to have no faith in him, only telling him he'll go astray again. She literally tells him she thinks he's still going to fail, and that she doesn't fully trust him by this point. That's one of the things that frustrates me about Aqua, the way she treats Terra.
In my opinion, Ventus did have a point in Radiant Garden. Now that she's a keyblade master, I think she did let it go to her head. She does seem to act like her descisions are right, a bit "I know best" for someone who was at the same rank as her friends not that long ago.
And I feel like her impulsive judgement of others (As someone else in the comments stated about her actions in Cinderella's World), still continues with how she treats Axel/Lea in KH3 and the DLC. She interrupts him, cuts him off, and with mid-gameplay dialogue in the DLC, actively tells him to shut up- It really looks like she dislikes him for seemingly no reason. Potentially because she, again, sensed darkness within him, since he did technically still use the Corridors of Darkness at least close to that time point.
I got really off track on this rant but hey, hopefully someone chose to read this long wall of text.
First thing, I wouldn't look too much into the whole dialogue with what she said to Lea as being personal. She's just a more serious person and they're in a situation where if they die, the World has an even higher chance of entirely getting reset by Xehanort. I wouldnt wanna take time for joking or banter either tbh, but Lea's just that type of guy.
As far as Aqua, I do think a lot of the points you made are part of what makes me really enjoy Aqua's character. Although I believe that her and Terra were equally worthy, due to Eraqus, he was denied it like you said. Whereas Terra was on a journey to prove himself and even overcome the darkness and even like I said, accomplished controlling the darkness without being overtaken by it. Aqua's journey started moreso acting in her master role but was about really breaking free of Eraqus' close-minded view, being put through more strenuous trials of being tempted by darkness than even Terra imo. Terra's were more physical and based on rage and self-doubt. Aqua's was more about doubt in her teaching and testing her belief in her friends and how long she can hold strong.
Honestly I can't really weigh Terra's and Aqua's sink into darkness as any worse than the other cause they were both long drawn out battles even being different. But Terras was like bein locked away with one crazy strong enemy with 1 exit and Aqua locked away with a bunch of less strong than xehanort with many chances of freedom but exits constantly being closed around her, more vivd visions and temptations that would locate her fears of the condition of her friends and test if she even did good enough ensuring Ven's safety and how long she can keep the darkness off her from 100 different directions.
They all got so tested and pushed in different directions to where Xehanort got what he wanted, Aqua wanted to believe in Terra and even bolsted herself to no longer fear, but hearing the master's death was a huge shock that was another test of her faith, but she faultered, the same way Terra did in the same scene where he thought he DID need to be watched. But I also kinda blame Yen Sid and Terra for not bein entirely honest about what happened with Eraqus, at least bein more specific on how "terra helped" with eraqus threatening Ven. But yea, people miss a lot for these characters and absolutely shouldn't skip games cause each one goes so far towards setting up and foreshadowing and really making what makes these character moments so potent and thorough and testing of them whether they pass or fail and how they change. It's a lot and I love it.
Which is EXACTLY WHY I have Character Dives coming for both Aqua and Ven in the future to complete the Wayfinder Trio. My Character Dive series in general will be more consistent so keep an eye out if you want my friend
@@MetaSF_ Yeah, I agree with most of those points. They did struggle in different ways, definitely, I just thought it was interesting to note that Aqua was a lot more willing to give up with her circumstances, which was what I noted about the Realm of Darkness.
I will say her interactions with Axel/Lea can come across a bit annoying, but I don't think they are character-defining or meant to be taken personally, and I'm sure we'll see more of how they actually interact in the next game. I just thought it was an interesting point considering she was quick to antagonize people if she sensed darkness within them, and thought he could potentially be an example of that mindset continuing.
I admit it's been long enough I forgot specifically how Aqua being informed of Eraqus' death went down, so I can't really say how it was explained to her. But hearing Terra had a part in his death would definitely have affected her, I understand that. I just found it a bit frustrating since she spent so long regaining faith in him, only for her to still lose it in the end.
I'd definitely be interested in seeing character dives for other characters though, from that trio or not. It sounds like Aqua's character dive would definitely include or acknowledge points mentioned in these comments. Which would be nice to see, since I feel like most people view her character a lot more surface level honestly.
Oh hell yeah! Thank you for doing Terra justice! I really don't get why he's so misunderstood in the first place :'( You definitely know how to analyze a character and make an awesome video about it :) subbing and going watch your other videos now~
Oh also: #LingeringWill
I really appreciate the nice words for both me AND Terra, he's my boy and I wanted to do right by him. Thanks for subbing as well! I have down to make one of these for both Ventus and Aqua very soon so stay tuned for those too if you life 🤝
Truthfully, I view Terra as the same breed of character as Anakin Skywalker, which seemed to me like that is what the intention was, with Eraqus being a mixture of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon. In fact, it is because of his trials, successes, and failures that make him my favorite character.
Funnily enough this is one thing I picked up instantly playin through BBS, and every time I go back through it just gets stronger. The ties with that game and Star Wars run mad deep, I actually talked about it a bit in my recent Star Wars x KH4 video. But yea Terra gives me strong Anakin vibes and Xehanort strong Palpatine vibes, and both sometimes get seen in a more criticized light but it really isn't their gullibility, it's that the tactician, aka Xehanort and Palpatine were both so good they just checkmated everybody. Terra though especially held fast and I'm proud of my boy, he needs way more love for his Tenacity running beyond a decade
@@MetaSF_ by far he's underrated, the reason why I called Eraqus a mixture of Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon is because he had the Father-Son Dynamic with Terra like Qui-Gon would have had with Anakin but like Obi-Wan, he lacked the trust he needed. Xehanort simply played with the cards he was dealt with that the wind blew into his lap, much like how Palpatine would and at times did. Nothing wrong with that, Terra had no reason to think Xehanort would lie because of Eraqus himself, who failed Terra in the exam because of Xehanort pointing out the Darkness and Xehanort knew Eraqus enough to know that's all it'd take.
As a Terra fan, I ran to this video the moment I saw it haha
aye if I hadn't been the one to make it, I would have too lol
Riku is so handsome Too
so glad I found you you are so underrated please don’t stop
means a lot to me you say that, trust me I won't be stopping, I got so much more to bring
Lingering will crushed my morale
Lingering Will is infamous, especially for beating the brakes off literally everybody LOL
Awesome Video :) Hopefully We Will See More Of Terra In The Future Of KH :) By The Way Whoever Judges Terra As A Bad Character Watch This Video :) Recommend The Video 100 Percent :)
Thanks for the support! Love the kind words 👍🏾
@HMK
@@kingleonidas2182 LOL
Terra is so handsome
Terra is my favorite kh character. He's like a mild mannered powerhouse
FOR REAL, he's such a good dude, he doesn't even fall in that "strong but passionate idiot" archetype, he's pretty wise and says wise stuff in his time. I have so much respect for him
People tend to forget than the Players already know who the bad guys are. Yet they expect the characters to see what we see from the start.
@@ChZenOnE Exactly, they forget that we don't see all these different camera angles of Xehanort's true expressions or scenes alone with Vanitas. AND they forget that the player is just meeting Xehanort where Aqua and Terra have known him for years personally and Eraqus as a lifelong friend, so there's no reason to distrust him at all from their experience and knowledge. And like I say, they all got played by Xehanort in a way that utilized their good actions, not just Terra
Thank you terra is my favorite character in kingdom hearts
You've got good taste, I've actually gotten a good amount of comments saying the same thing, love seein the appreciation for the truth of Terra
Lingering Will
Thanks for spreading the godlike twewy soundtrack
absolutely, this is one method of an obligation to get the people enlightened about twewy lol
Terra certainly wasn’t stupid and definitely under appreciated but it also shows just how manipulative and incredibly smart Xehanort really was as well regardless if his endgame was actually for good or not and ironically even Xehanort himself was just another pawn in yet another even bigger man’s endgame. (Master of masters) !! I don’t think Xehanorts story is over either he’s definitely will be back. Lol
For sure for sure, and I really do think even with how it looks, thanks to Melody of Memory we might get some more phantoms or at least memory fragments of Xehanort. Eraqus helped him pass on in 3, but since we're diving into heavy memory territory as well as reality diving, they'll give us something. Even if it's like somebody conjuring a fake version of him LOL. But yea I have mad respect for Terra but even still a lot of respect for Xehanort's character, it's so so good. I love the direction they were able to take the story thanks to Birth By Sleep as led by the secret scenes from KH2 final mix and Lingering Will. Helped take Xehanort to a whole new level
Terra deserves respect for his resolve to find his way and he actually progressed on his own thanks to riku and ventus. But what kept him from reaching that true potential despite being the strongest, was his views on those on around him and their views of him. Terra viewed ventus as someone who needed to be protected, someone weak, so he couldn't let him join him, and those around him, with the exception of ventus are one extreme that terra tries to fit in with, but can't so he is now caught between 2 extremes, one of pure light or pure darkness. So the Sora of his time is weeded out and he's left on his own to be manipulated by the one he THOUGHT he could trust. Aqua gaslights him due to her own self-righteousness and eraqus is much the same. So what is a terra to do, other than to walk his own way alone. It's actually quite beautiful and until ven realizes his full potential, Terra is probably my favorite of this trio.
As much as I love Terra and truly think he deserves more, I can't really say I agree that she gaslights Terra because she really is just worried about him just as much as Eraqus is, but unlike Eraqus she really KNOWS that Terra is strong, which is why she tells Eraqus that Terra isn't as weak as he thinks which I fully respect. But from a place of being a friend and a master AND the type of person she is, she's upfront and blunt which is necessary, yet I do think she could've approached it to Terra better but her disdain for darkness and threatening to pull Terra away kinda makes her say too much without showing as much personal care at first. And you see Aqua struggling with the 2 sides of her when she tells Ven to go home, and he's sad and she starts walking away but then looks back again, it's rough for them all man.
And I also think Terra overreacted at Radiant Garden, but I get how the being watched thing can be hurtful. It all just comes down to love clashing with duty and determination, which is why they never hold it against each other, they all understand. Even Terra saying he did need to be watched even though he didn't understand before. Another thing to make me respect Terra, it's just not that he was the only one that got manipulated, every last one of them did by Xehanort, the man is Palpatine levels of strategy
@@MetaSF_ By no means do I think it's intentional but with the way aqua is, she is prone to thinking that she is right, I think she's an example of someone who is truly entrenched in her master's way of thinking and don't think that this means I hate aqua, it's just a character flaw which i'm glad she has and grows from it. But when she says "what else is darkness but hate and rage" and claiming he'll go astray again tells me that her faith is diminished despite wanting the best for him but doesn't think that he knows or understands what should be done. There's a bit of self righteousness in her which is something Ven calls her out on when claiming that the master position has went to her head. If terra had someone like mickey who understood that darkness and light balance each other out, then terra might've ended up different. I'll admit, maybe gaslighting was the wrong term but it was closest I could think of to what aqua was doing instead helping terra as the earnest young man he is. Aqua only believes in one way of thinking when it comes to darkness, so even though it's not inherently bad she'll only think less of him as someone corrupted by the dark or "he'll go astray again". we all deal with something like this when we think we know what's best for our companions. I honestly think it's great writing and it could be better if presented better.
@@TrueReverse74 yea it all makes sense, part of the reason why BBS is my favorite KH game and that trio is my favorite. I think it expanded the universe in a great way while taking the direction of a cast to a new level with new characters in such a tragic yet beautiful way, none of them bad but have a flaw that causes them all to get some critical things wrong and lets misunderstandings and lack of clarity to continue to happen, all for Xehanorts favor, pretty well done but still hurts but I love it lol
I been to the same worlds as you I seen what you’ve done….
Me: what exactly did he do? LMAOOO
THAT'S WHAT IM SAYIN, LOL. I love Aqua but that was SUPER cap, Terra got slandered right there, Aqua was still blinded like Eraqus in that moment, she learned but my boy Terra didn't deserve that man lol
@@MetaSF_ I don’t think she even knew about terra with the whole stealing sleeping beauty’s heart (could be wrong) but besides that he didn’t do anything LMAOO
#LingeringWill Great video & an amazing analysis man. You said everything I thought about him. I couldn't have said it better. And I have a suggestion for you man: Dimentio from Super Paper Mario. I find him really interesting and would like to learn more about this character.
Really glad you thought so, im super willing to spread truth about Terra, he needs more appreciation man. And Dimentio from Super Paper Mario, I'll keep that in mind. I'll be having polls in the future for picks in this series like I said at the end so I'll consider sliding him in one and see how things go from there! There's so many I wanna cover in this series as you can imagine lol, but again, thank you for the support 👍🏾
@@MetaSF_ One thing I forget I forgot to say one more thing. And that is that I find the thumbnail of the video really magnificent.
@@SuperPlacido1 Honestly that means the most to me because I spent a LONG time trying to get the thumbnail to get the point across simply, in an original way, and still look great. I really appreciate the love
This is the guy who went to hell and back in 3 different ways
And still threw hands in those 3 entire different states solely because of his sheer willpower until he could be properly restored.
There’s a reason Terra’s one of my top 3 favorite characters in the series and it’s cause he’s just so resilient and determined to do what he believes is right thing.
LEGIT; his body, heart, and mind all on separate fronts, fighting against xehanort for over a DECADE, even to the point of his self influencing Xemnas and Ansem. Absolutely incredible
yes terra so underrated sad many people misjudge him I'm glad you see terra is wonderful character but I love him more over overcoming his flaws and he do what he has to keep his love ones safe even if it means using the darkness that again never used to hurt anyone like xehanort plan to but his strong will never stray away for doing what right
Yea, and he's such a good man too, a shame what happenend to him and the rest of them by way of Xehanort's manipulation of even darkness and tbe entire World itself. His determination alone almost reset all life for the sake of balance, they all got played by him man
I agree that Terra always seemed to get negative rep and while I can understand it to a certain extent I also feel like the people who say Terra got tricked by an obvious bad guy are clearly only looking at it from the player's perspective. As the player we get to see all the obviously evil expressions he does when no one is looking his way, so while WE get to see Xehanort while he's doing his evil grin the other characters don't.
For example if you were to change your PoV during Terra's first conversation with Xehanort, what do you see? You're sitting on the steps of the stair in front of a building contemplating what you did wrong on the test you just failed when suddenly one of the instructors who was there to oversee the test comes out and gives you some encouragement while having his back faced towards you. Of course since he's someone with experience and wisdom you try to ask questions to see how you can improve, the old man tells you that the real reason you failed wasn't necessarily because you did anything wrong but rather that the main instructor has a strong bias against something you only did by accident and had immediately kept under control but was still used as a strike against you. Now imagine that the old man starts playing around with your insecurities all while actually speaking the truth. You don't see a grinning old man you see the back of a bald head staring at you all the while the old man is giving you the encouragement to not limit yourself and improve yourself unlike the other instructor.
Taking all that into consideration and setting aside what we already know about Xehanort, based purely on what Terra was experiencing do you believe the old man is 100% evil and is planning on ruining your life? Weird maybe but evil?
On another note I never understood why people would claim Terra killed his father figure when not only did Terra not have the motivation to go as far as to kill him but if anyone was ACTUALLY paying attention during that cutscene then you would know that while weaked he was still fine and Terra was still trying to reach out to him to reach some sort of understanding before Xehanort showed up out of nowhere and finished him off. The only reason Terra himself claims he did it is probably because he feels guilty he unintentionally contributed to his death by weakening him during his battle to protect Ven.
EXACTLY, I honestly don't remember if I mentioned it in this video, but there's a huge difference between player perception and in-game character perception. When making games, people don't realize developers present some things in ways only the players will see (things like camerawork, POVs when somebody's facing away from the other, etc.) and some things that both player and characters will notice. Xehanort to the characters is Eraqus' long time friend, somebody who's only helped them grow and they have much respect for him. Xehanort has never made his true self apparent to any of them, even Eraqus who's known him so long, that should be enough to show how good Xehanort was at not being obvious.
And just like I said, all the things Xehanort was pushing them ALL to do by himself and through Vanitas, needed to happen even from a "good guy" perspective, he never had to push them to do evil or even trick them into doing bad things or even lie to them. Him telling Ven the truth of his origin was to push him to confront Eraqus yes, but Eraqus decided to kill Ventus all on his own.
I don't even feel like im trying to say that Terra made every right decision or he's extremely smart, but just that he's not dumb, he holds all things he did wrong or even things not his fault close to himself so he can learn, and Xehanort is so clever that he played ALL of them. Terra, Ven, Aqua, Eraqus, Mickey, Yen Sid, even Vanitas to a degree.
I feel like it's something so simple to see especially the difference between player and character perception, yet people somehow don't for Terra at all. Thus why I was so passionate in making this video, your comment was a pleasure to read and got me hyped all over again lol
XENOBLADE MUSIC IN A KINGDOM HEARTS VIDEO YOOOO
Also I’m glad you made this video
aye man you know how it is, fire music and series' gotta have their crossover in some way you feel me
@@verylargemandarinslice8965 And I appreciate you takin the time to watch this video 👌🏾
bro I freaking love terra and hated most of the fandom hates on him for being "stupid" like it different story if he had willing used his darkness on aqua to win where their master would be right over his eagerness to win at all cost to be a master but he held it back not wanted to hurt his friend not to mention he never once used his darkness to hurt others plus rightfully be upset he was hurt to find out his master not only didn't trust him to face darkness but got aqua to spy on him in turn cause an drift in their friendship but despite that he never stop caring about her or ven honestly terra deserve better I'm so glad there more people beside me that don't hate on terra for his flaws
I 100% blame people like HMK and honestly most of that X-Keepers group for spreading so much Terra hate online and for really no actual reason. You can dislike terra if you want, go for it, but to say he's a bad character or objectively dumb, is CRAZY. Unlike how Riku was, Terra didn't even remotely want the darkness for evil, and as I made clear in this video and as you say, he didn't ONCE use it for evil of his own volition and desire either. He did begin to use it yes, but just like how people love Riku for, Terra used the Darkness in conjuction with Light, to fight AGAINST villainous people like Xehanort or those that tried to kill his friends like Eraqus who even he himself admitted he was WRONG to do so. No matter what, he never stopped caring about the people close to him. I really do wonder if people played the same game as me sometimes lol
Hm, you know what, maybe there's a solution that doesn't involve Terra fighting Eraqus, he should've fled along with Ventus in the corridor, if that meant not harming anyone.
Sorry for such a late response I never got notified for this comment, but yea thats an interesting thought. To me though if he's already steeled himself enough to kill both Terra and Ven, he may just hunt them down, but it would give them time to quell Eraqus' anger. But at the same time, who knows how blatant Xehanort would have become considering most of the angles he setup were in place 🤔
Eraqus created Terra's Darkness.
Terra Darkness comes from his insecurities and desire to be worthy in the eyes of Eraqus.
But Eraqus was waaay to strict. It's understandable when you know darkness took the life of all his friends.
That's why I appreciate Dark Road so much, I mean even before I understood where Eraqus was coming from but he stepped too far out of line. Not to say that that means Xehanort was the solution either though. But Xehanort was the only one that had it all figured out, the rest were so conflicted and he exploited that for sure. Dark Road really opens up so much more for both, love it
@@MetaSF_ I'm glad we share the same understanding and love for the series 🙂.
This is something Kingdom Hearts keep telling us. Darkness comes from negative emotions. Terra's comes from fear of inadequacy.
Aqua's from fear and despair.
Vanitas' from pain and anger, and being a literal darkness.
Baldr's from his loneliness and despair from losing his sister.
Riku's from envy and frustration. I believe Xehanort's comes from pride. I mean he thinks he can do everything by himself since he believes he is the infamous child of destiny. He even go so far to create 13 versions of himself.
In a sense even Eraqus succomb to Darkness. But his comes from the fear of losing his love ones.
I don't know if it's done on purpose but Terra much like Eraqus. Both want to protect their friends / family but go to extreme lengths to do.
@@NicolasMendoula and all of these things is exactly how The World gets more chaotic and Darkness grows. But even moreso, how people like Xehanort and the Master of Masters can manipulate people to their advantage like perfect puppetry, straight up Palpatine levels lol, very impressive but still messed up
@@MetaSF_ what's so messed up with Xehanort is that Dark Road makes him really sympathetic. And his bad actions comes from a good place.
The saying "Hell is paved with good intentions" gets all its meaning
man i love terra, the wayfinder trio is my favorite trio as i relate to them alot, they remind me of myself and two other friends of mine. very good video! think youll do one on ven and/or aqua?
glad you enjoyed! and yea I love Terra too, not even sayin any of this in my video because BBS is my favorite KH game, but it's my favorite KH game partially because of these aspects and in this case, Terra being one of them.
And yea I will absolutely be doing one on both Ven AND Aqua, gonna go in the order of best playing through the stories you know lol. I have 2 other Character Dives I have in the works that will come first but Ven will be after them and Aqua right after. Since I have a better plan it won't take me forever to continue this series either lol again, thanks for watching
@@MetaSF_ mhm! I'll be looking foward to it :) bbs is my favorite aswell. I like how its not one of those games that has a happly ever after. They all get the bad end of the stick in the end which is what makes it so neat. The tragedy, the good moments, the twist, the feeling of sitting on the edge of ur seat when stuff starts to line up and what not. The games leaves you in this state of wanting to know what happens next and all that. Very cool stuff
This video was amazing!! I have much more respect for Terra as I thought he a was the weak link in the Chaser Trio.
Not to mention your points and counterpoints were articulated very well even considering some very popular/negative criticism fans have about Terra. Your channel will skyrocket if this is your quality of videos.
Gotta say I love the kind words, this is just the first in this specific series so vids like this on many more characters are FOR SURE on the way, im happy you think so highly of this first episode and I was able to at least give you some new appreciate for Terra, the man needs more loves for real, I'll keep up the good work so I welcome you on this successful journey in content of mine! Thanks again 👏🏾
I think Terra is a very under appreciated character. I love that despite his very unfortunate circumstances, he still continues to fight and doesn’t completely give up. I also find that I relate to him quite a bit. Maybe that’s part of why I found his ending so sad.
Also, while he might be a bit naive at times, I don’t think he’s as stupid as some people seem to think he is. No one is perfect, and at least he tries to fix his mistakes.
Yea I can see how he can be relatable too, maybe some people dont want to admit they can find similarities between him and them so they deny it altogether, so good on you for bringing up that point.
Nobody's perfect and he certainly isnt so willing to let bad things happen whether him, all of them, or just xehanort were the cause, which is always commendable. Ty for the great comment
Thank you for bringing appreciation and analysis for Terra and he's so underappreciated, especially with some content creators fueling that hatred for him to the masses... :/
I have to say that I think all the main characters of KH are so well-written in some form and some developed so well. I just think that the ones who aren't considered developed just didn't get their chance to fully shine yet (Kairi for instance). Like try convincing me a character in KH (the main cast like Guardians of Light) that isn't well written and I'll be there to refute otherwise :)
I felt thisbway about Terra and how people talk about his character for a long time, people hating or criticizing only him for things they all fell for if not similar but specific to them. The content creators in question certainly didnt help lol, ANOTHER reason why I wanted to make the video cause I refuse to follow the herd being led by their blind hate.
And yea I think out of the main cast of KH characters including all the trios are well written characters just varying levels. Even Kairi's not bad just underused or lacking in areas, even from how she took action with that small chances she had in kh1, kh2, and kh3, shows shes competent. But like I said, they vary
A lot of people may say Sora is their favorite some may consider Aqua, kari or ventus.
but for me it's always been Terra I consider him to be the "vassal of willpower".
His willpower goes well beyond death.
He isn't just "strong of heart" like Kari or Sora.
He's not the smartest like Xehanort, or magically gifted like Aqua, or fast like Ven and Roxas.
BUT He is powerful, and his Will is as vast as the oceans of stars in the sky.
to me Terra is number 1
with Lea/Axel being number 2.
You've said it so well, think of Lingering Will himself, it's like Terra's ENTIRE thing is about his strength of Will persisting beyond his heart and body, through his mind in Lingering Will. As I've made this video, you know I'll always love Terra. Aqua may be my favorite overall KH character but Terra is for sure in my Top 5 and even if he wasn't, he STILL gets way to much flack from people, they're missing out on a great character, man
@@MetaSF_ yeah i know right too many people think terra is a bad character or overhyped, but he's so good at what he does best his love of his friends is amazing and his willpower is well know as the hardest boss in kh2, like so many are just missing out on a great character.
When I played BBS by myself (my brother was the one who did it at first) I felt so sorry for him. I never thought that he is gullible, or stupid. Thanks to my brother I thought about that darkness is not that evil as the characters said so I thought Eraqus didn't understand his powers. And he was so nice to the Disney characters especially to Cinderella. She was on her lowest point when Terra arrived and gave her strength. I thought that he was like his name: Yes he has a lot of muscle strength but he is also empathic. The earth is strong but has so many lives on it: Plants and animals~
How would you feel if you would fail an exam and one master says to you you're not fine how you are and the other master says that you're fine how you are? He is one of the muscular boys I find attractive (I like more dudes who are feminine) and damn did you see this in 1:43 ? These are huge fans. These lashes!!!
Yea the dynamic between Eraqus and Xehanort seeping into how Terra is treated in reaction to the darkness is pretty perfect. With all of their experiences with their fellow students in Scala Ad Caelum in Dark Road, they lost a lot and you can tell that affected Eraqus. He's always had a hatred for darkness which I can get, but he was so tunnel visioned that he made many mistakes. And of course he wanted the best for Terra but the spying put a much bigger rift than his initial reassuring of Terra after he failed the Mark of Mastery.
And the way Terra helps Cinderella in that world I've always loved, especially when she takes his words and brings it right back to him, such small things that go a long way, glad other people see it too. And yea he has some crazy long eyelashes lol I'm surprised more people dont notice it
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Do you think Terra time traveled along with Ansem SoD when the latter became the Robed Figure? Ansem stayed in the past for about 50 years, does that mean Terra was actually trapped for 50 years?
I never thought about that, but now that I do that logic seems pretty sound to me, especially if you assume he still would have the Guardian
@@MetaSF_ I would hope that wasn't the case because it'd be so much more dramatic for Terra. Maybe his heart went dormant for those 50 years or maybe he didn't actually travel back in time with Ansem. My other theory is that when Terra-Xehanort stabbed himself at the end of BBS, he sent Terra's heart into the Guardian, which then fell into darkness, along with TX. Aqua was able to save TX but Terra's heart remained lingering in darkness, ready to be summoned by Xehanort whenever needed.
@@jabberwocky1493 that's actually some more good points. Kinda reminds me of my thoughts on how Terra's heart being dormant in his own body would affect his consciousness within Ansem SoD and Xemnas. Cause we know his self has had impact on both, especially Xemnas, but maybe since they were special, like we know from the Reports, he had no consciousness in them but only Terranort like you said. So like how Xehanort was dormant as long as those 2 were around, and only returned when they died, same with Terra
Since they get compared, DEATH BATTLE needs to do Anakin Skywalker vs Terra! 👏
I honestly have never thought of that, if we could have Obi-Wan vs Kakashi, then we could have that lol
@MetaSF_ Thought about it when I said they should do xehanort vs Palpatine which they did a short version of with 2 endings instead of a legit one but they need do both! 👏
I find it frustrating that people tend to villainise Terra while holding Aqua up as the best character in the game, when for me it’s the opposite. In Birth by Sleep Aqua is an up herself bitch, parroting the anti Darkness creed from Eraqus and making you wonder that if there had been anyone else around would she and Terra be friends at all. It’s Aqua who throws a wrench into Terra trying to demonstrate his development, and by extension pushing Ventus away.
Terra,axel, and ven. My top 3
That's a clean top 3, different but still mad respectable, Ven need more love too
@@MetaSF_ it’s cuz my ps2 always got stolen so I played the first three khs only a couple times and I didn’t really remember the story. But I got BBS in 4th grade in 2012 on my psp and I played the shit out of that game. 100% it and everything (well except MF 😂) and I thought aqua was annoying and I really liked terra. Ven grew on me. And I came to like axel later on probably after playing days.
@@sethrenwright2921 bro my psp got wore OUT playin bbs, they was not catchin me in class when I was playin it on the low. The final episode wasnt unlockin itself
@@MetaSF_ nah my battery was always ass. had to play it plugged up lmao. And my data always got mf corrupted. I can’t tell you how many times I died to master eraqus tho and vanitas the first time with ven. That’s when I started my over-leveling in kh games.
@@sethrenwright2921 I feel that, I was also the type to try and beat Mysterious Figure as Terra on critical without the surge or mines strats, idk why I did that to myself lol
Terra has always been my favorite character. Hated it when the X-keepers just decided to hate on him for no reason.
Straight up, it seemed so strange to not have some sympathy especially when he absolutely wasnt the only person to get played, everyone's did, everyone's good deeds got used against them cunningly
Well said, but it doesn't change the fact he plays like a walking punching bag. Maybe if he attacks a little faster he'd be more fun to play as.
Aye man everybody's got a style they like playin. Some like the fast and light hitters, some like the slow hard hitters. It's like the dps vs tank role in a moba. But of course, we know the Mysterious Figure doesnt care about any style except the speedrun strat lol. But yea, Terra's combat style not for everybody
@@MetaSF_ I agree, I like Terras style. But most enemies lay the beat down before the first attack comes out. So if only his first animation was quicker he'd be better balanced in my opinion. But yeah I'm all for the heavy hitting combos.
@@brutaltoken634 Oh I can for sure see where you're coming from. Especially against those unversed that plant themselves in the ground and send the discs at you in Radiant Garden, can for sure be a pain even when you finally reach one when theres others still around lol
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I never got why Terras use of Darkness was a strike against his character. You know who else uses darkness a ton but isn't judged for it? Sora. He relies on the power of darkness to help him master his form changes in KH2 and as a last line of defense in KH3. So why is Terra judged so much for doing pretty much the same thing?
Exactly, the players shouldnt because by the time BBS came out it was already evident the ability to control darkness to fight for light. BUT, Eraqus' extreme hatred for darkness (understandably so) made him way more resistant to allowing ANY of it at all, which made Eraqus go to far in his handling of it which they showed. So it makes no sense people hated and judged Terra so unreasonably hard for it, and even like I said in the video, Terra NEVER used darkness against the light. Not a single time, it was only ever against the unversed, braig, xehanort, and other darkness, huge difference than xehanort using darkness and light against the light
The 'obsession with power' line is really sad. Eraqus is the one who created that desire in Terra. And what was different about Aqua's desire to be strong?
Honestly, Eraqus is for sure to blame for Terra being pushed away, but that desire to win and fear of losing as well as less control of emotions is more on Terra, Eraqus just certainly didn't make it any easier for sure. BUT, even with Terra having less control on his emotions, he always was in control on who it was directed towards. Unlike Riku, Terra didn't once use darkness for evil deeds, only to protect and fight for the light and his friends. He did use it against Eraqus but Eraqus was trying to kill Ventus, and then him for trying to protect Ventus even if reluctantly so. But Terra remained in control like I mention still being able to use a Light Corridor.
Now I will say, imo Aqua possessed a strength that even Eraqus didn't have when it came to desire for strength against darkness. Of course before she shrugged off Eraqus instructions, his will would be carried out even if she wanted to prove to him that Terra wasn't weak, but when she began fully going about things her own way she displayed a stronger balance that could fight darkness and not fear it or loss without being blinded by intention to win or keep things from getting worse. She'd never do something like Eraqus did and end up trying to kill somebody close to her in order to stop Xehanort.
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Terra has a strong will. He was good Character and is my favorite to play Birth by Sleep.
Also Can Lingering will fight a stand user? I am curious.
That's actually a good question lol, he might be the closest equivalent of a Stand so he probably could 🤔
bet @@MetaSF_
On the subject of Terra i remember when KeyToTruth made that video guessing that the Dark Guardian was Terra so glad he ended up being right and i gotta ask did Terra officially end up being named a Keyblade Master? i know he, Aqua and Ven are in charge of The Land of Departure now and i know Xehanort called him Master Terra but that was Xehanort being Xehanort.
Yea currently he was never legitimately made a Keyblade Master, even thought he has the skill, knowledge, and experience for it. Man was kinda "preoccupied" for a while lol. Maybe Yen Sid or Aqua could name him one if he even cares about the title, he could just keep doin his hero thing without it like Sora does
Or perhaps Riku could go on a journey with him to test him after his current quest? Riku is officially a Keyblade Master afterall and can use both Light and Darkness with no side effects
@@MDKGunner That's very true, I feel like Terra may be able to now given how much he's fought against the darkness all this time, especially with that whole chain ability he's got going on, I'd love to see him in action again with no infiltration by Xehanort. Even a sparring session with Riku or like you said, Riku can test him on a journey too but idk if Riku knows how to be a teacher like that lol
@@MetaSF_ He might not know how to be a teacher but i don't think he's ever tried so for all we know he could be a excellent one
Honestly Terra is in no way my favorite character, but you do have good points. I feel a big reason for me not liking him as a character was just disliking BBS in general (not just as a game, but the writing and the voice acting as well) because you're arguments seem to paint the picture of a very interesting character and maybe i just didn't get to experience him while playing through that game. I surely hope the next KH games (BBS trio game please??) strike a writing style that works well for me so i can enjoy Terra as much as you do.
All in all, nice video man, wish your channel all the best. Oh also, yeah that thumbnail is pretty good indeed.
I can see that, if you weren't a fan of BBS I can see how it can taint aspects within the whole too. Me making this video was really essentially to give how I saw him and potentially give others a new way of seeing him too in his journey throughout the series so I hope I at least gave you some more to think about and maybe, give BBS another go if you'd like. Or like you said, another with focus on the wayfinder trio which im 100% on board for.
Oh and of course, I appreciate the love on the video and the thumbnail, the thumbnail especially cause I put my foot in that lol
I'll never understand how people can be as blind and stupid as they think Terra is, did they even play the game?
Terra is one of the best characters of the series and I think more people would understand that if SE didn't completely screw up KH3 and did the whole Xehanorth mess instead of just having a meaningful ending to the story of the Wayfinder Trio in a climax against Terranorth to get Terra's body back.
Honestly, I can't blame anything on KH3 or any of the execution for people's misunderstanding of Terra. It's always been a surprise to me even since BBS how people dont see how obviously Terra isn't dumb or gullible, they just place him as knowing things only the player gets shown and judge him as if he sees the things the game only shows to us, people just didnt pay attention to that lol and I can blame a certain bunch of youtubers for the Terra hate wave as well
Isn't as great as aqua or ven.
Me: LIES! he is far greater than both.
I respect it
@@MetaSF_ Thank you, I don't dislike ven or aqua but terra just click's with me.
P.s: I only dislike Aqua because of her flimsy defense, especially on critical mode.
Sorry I can't agree with you... people find excuses for Terra nothing more, Aqua and ven did the right think
Maleficent told terra To kill snow and bring her heart and terra is like "where do I find her?" I don't care about emoțional stupid theories
Things are not always complicated
He is stupid and THAT IS way xehanort did whatever he wanted with Terra
You can disagree, that's ok. Im not finding excuses for Terra or to evoke emotion, just shed light on facts. And it isnt complicated, very simple actually, just overlooked. And your snow white point shows that you are tunnel-visioned on calling terra stupid over seeing the truth. He asked where to find her just so he can check her out himself, he never planned on doing anything bad to her which is why he never once harmed her or even talked nasty to her, then went right back and confronted the evil queen. You cant cut context that works against you just to make a point hoping nobody notices, but I do.
And like I said, if Terra is stupid, they all are for their own reasons for falling right into Xehanorts hands. But that would be silly, everything that happened, did cause Xehanort set them up with a plot that forced them to act that they could not ignore for the sake of the worlds. Vanitas had to be stopped, so Ventus did or there would be no end. Terra had to save Ven and wasnt even the one to kill Eraqus, Aqua had to assist both in their struggles even tho she lacked the level of attentiveness needed, which hurts them all. And all 3 fell like dominos for Xehanort due to his plan and their own shortcoming. And it's just fact that Terra always acted on doing what's right and really never did anything that the others would not have done. Not a single thing, his position was just different, so the rest were in the position to where they did no wrong but resisting Xehanort without being trapped was almost impossible, and it worked. You could also call Eraqus stupid for not being proactive in stopping Xehanort for years upon years, but it aint black and white, it never is
@@MetaSF_ what I mean with snow was hes reaction,she literally told him to kill her and also bring her heart, that is really dark and Terra had no reaction like *you are crazy or I'am not a killer*
He is definetly comfotable with darkness just like eraqus sad
And bottom line he was just upset that Aqua beat him on the exam!!! Even if eraqus sad they both can pass,it was not a choice!!! But like eraqus sad he is desperate for power and That is a fact
@@games4you485 Terras a big man already on a mission that could cost him his life every second, he had no plans of harming her so it's pointless to even have some extra reaction when he doesnt care about the evil queen at all lol, he just needed to investigate the world. And in the beginning he wasnt comfortable with darkness, he didnt even know where it came from, later on down the line he became more comfortable with it yes, but he was still able to make light corridors, his heart was never tainted but was still able to wield darkness, similar to how riku learned to be able to, he does take after terra in many ways after all.
And he was less upset Aqua beat him but just upset he didnt also pass. I guarantee if Aqua won the fight and that random darkness didnt pop up, they both definitely would have both passed and he wouldnt have been mad Aqua beat him, it was never about losing to her. He was desperate yes, desperate to prove that he can be stronger than the darkness, which he was, but Eraqus' views were so radical from his own hurt past that he didnt consider darkness can be channeled without tainting of the heart, they do beget each other like Xehanort said. Aqua and Ven both believed in Terra and his actions never betrayed that, but Xehanort fooled them all so their actions that were all entirely helpful to the worlds, was exactly what he needed to succeed, and they all spent years and years doing what they can in what little or much consciousness they had in order to persist all those years. Like I said, it isn't complicated, it's just not black and white
@@MetaSF_ anyways,I do like your channel and apreciate the answer
@@games4you485 its all good, I got nothin against you, I enjoy a good discussion with another passionate about how they see something lol, keeps things interesting, much love right back at you and I appreciate the comments 🤝
This ain't it.
Terra is the only character we know of in the series to have a balance of light and darkness and also be able to detatch his mind from his heart and body to essentially create three separate beings. If Terra isn't a well written character then Idk who else is.
FOR REAL, not to mention although being so utilizing of thw darkness but never allowing it to actually pollute him in a way to become evil or just beyond drastic himself, like those of Riku and Xehanort who so well fight with light and darkness. Terras actually so impressive as far as writing. Also sorry for the late response, never got notified, but it got me thinking still lol