Things to know when getting a CNC- Genmitsu 4040 pro
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2023
- I continue to practice and learn how to operate my new compact CNC router. I am a totally new to this and bringing you along for my adventure.
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One of my favorite bits is a diamond spring-loaded drag bit for acrylics
Nice
I have been into CNC for 2 years, finally gotten really good at it. 3D carving and design is my main work.
Maybe one day, I will get there
Good job Clack. You'll have success. Perseverance
Thanks, I am having fun with it.
Carbide bits are a good thing to use for what you are doing. Try to leave about .010 on the rough cut for a finish cut.
Thanks for the tip
I use Vectric V-Carve Pro, It came with my Shark Pro and I have kept it updated over the years.
I have heard it is a good software
Having just watched your video showcasing your bird perch as a gift for your mother, I came and rewatched this CNC router video. I have watched several but I wasn't originally keen on the dust these machines create - however, I'm getting ideas now for how I can incorporate one into my small mechandise business.
I think it's time to give serious thought to this! 👍
They are very useful and fun. I am now looking into a larger one…. This one is good to learn on and does great on small things but I need bigger now…lol
I have also engineered a pretty good dust collection system for it
You are going to love that DWP 611. I freehand carve signs with routers and this is my go to work horse.
I am just hoping its not too much horsepower for the chassis.. gonna take it slow at first
@@TheClackShack nice thing is it is variable speed so you can slow it down if need be.
Also new to cnc. Taking this ride with ya.
It has been fun so far..
I use open builds as my g sender and it has a function called check size that will frame. By the way I’m in Pell City . I’ve been doing laser for a couple years and cnc for about a year and I will say that lasers are easier but once you play with the cnc it becomes easy as well.
Yea, the bit selection is gonna take some work but so far, it seems really fun. Hello neighbor,
I love Whiteside bits.
Cool
Appreciate the insight this provided. Regarding the bits -- this appears to be the same issue one encounters with router and shaper cutters and available profiles complicated by the fact that all of the design and tool moves need to be identified at design time. For your relay, a 3D printed enclosure or cover should solve your problem. I did something very similar for the electronics and power distribution for my electrically adjustable height welding table.
I will probably make an acrylic box with ventilation.
Roughing is done more efficiently with endmills.
That’s what I am learning.
I have a 3020 pro and a 4040 pro, I like using the amana or spetool bits, usually a 60* sometimes a 90*
Thanks
Feeds and speeds are tricky.. to slow takes for ever.. to fast you’re breaking bits and it all changes depending on the type of wood lol. Doing a lot better than me when I got started. I should have started with a laser but I started with a CNC and wrecked my machine a good bit but nothing ever broke.
Amana makes some great bits, chamfers, bowl bits, compression bits etc etc. I learn something every time I cut that machine on lol.
Roll tide btw! Glad I found your channel.
Yea, I am playing with MDF before moving to real wood. I am hoping the transition goes well.
Btw if you ever decide to cut acrylic the Dewalt router will cause you headaches. The minimum rpm is too high for a normal 2 flute bit. I would use an o flute bit. If possible the Makita router is a better option because they have a lower minimum rpm.
Also with the Dewalt you will pretty much always what the rpm set to minimum. If you run much over that you will burn your bits. Just things I learned the hard way.
Thanks
With that dewalt router, you’ll notice that the z axis will flex if your depth of cut is too deep. The linear bearings aren’t very good quality on the z axis and it’s a pretty well known issue at this point. Just a heads up.
Yea, I am looking at running it slower than if it were on a larger machine. Not that the router can’t handle it but the frame
Once you get going get yourself some carbide upcut and downcut end mill bits 1/4 inch shaft, some ball nose bits and so on.
Yep,, lots of bits
Hey Alabama! To get a cover for that converter all you need to do is to find a file for your 3D printer and print one, easy ..... oh wait..... no one has sent you a 3D printer yet! Well, I guess that will be a project for you once you master the CNC! LOL... Just razzing you. I appreciate your videos Alabama. It's nice hearing an accent for home. And the topics are interesting too!
Not sure where a 3 d printer would go.. shop is getting smaller
@@TheClackShack - I completely understand!
If you need help with Easel just let me know. I learned CNC with Easel about 8 years ago. I have transitioned to Vectric Aspire and if you continue you probably will too. Vectric really allows you to dial in those toolpaths.
I'm located in north Alabama so if you are ever up this way and have questions just let me know. I will gladly help.
Hi David. At 16m30s, the wood board in your hand is called pressed wood. Some guys like me call it "Weet-bix" wood. Coming from the Weet-bix cereal in South Africa.😂
It’s not very sturdy but good practice material instead of burning it
@TheClackShack Yes I agree.
I came from cnc to laser. Bits from IDC woodcraft are great. up and downcut 1/4 , 1/8 bits, but you will find that v bits are your friend. IDC has chart for feeds and speeds . Vectric is to cnc like lightburn is to laser. Oramask will save you a lot of time in your painting. Seal with shellac, oramask, cut then paint.
Thanks for the tips!
With that new router and the tapered ball nose bit on that machine, you will not need to run a roughing tool path on most your work. If the cut you plan to make is deeper than the cut flutes on that bit is the only time you will need to rough. That will speed up the project time eminently.
I have to study the bits but hopefully it will speed things up. Thanks for the info
I’m new to CNC but I’m a maniac and my first machine is a 1500x1500 lead CNC. I’m a go big or go home kind of girl!
Not in my budget, nor do I have the room for it… that would be massive
Pssst you can frame, but I am not really familiar with Easel so it may/may not have it buried somewhere, I design in Lightburn, save Gcode and then use UGS to open file and send to Machine, the thing that convinced me to go this way was I can frame the job!!
That would be nice. I will look for it
I also use UGS. You will probably not find it under framing but look up Zero and homing in your easel. The zero position is basically where the carve will start. The only way I know to do it is move the Z up to to a little more than the height of the material zero out the z and basically hit play (run) which does an air cut.
@@spafa9 , yea, I have used that by setting the working home position higher but it doesnt frame the entire design, it just starts the job.
Hi! Cog Hill Farm sent me over.
Thanks
A quick question, enjoyed your presentation on the 40x40 pro CNC Ie, what are the x and y tube sizes, and do you anticipate flexing when using the De walt router.?
I want to say they are 15mm, if you do not run the appropriate speeds it will flex. You can't run it to the max but it is still way faster than the stock spindle. After using both, I like the Makita router better due to the lower speeds. Also, If you can get one of their 300 watt spindles, it seems to do a really good job with the 1/8 inch bits.
Thank you clack for the prompt response; I appreciate your insight and the projects you involve yourself@@TheClackShack
I’m researching now. Great video, thanks
Awesome! Thank you!
There are a bunch of free 3d printable covers for that relay, just search any of the major sources of 3d printing files and search for that relay part number. :)
Yea, I currently do not have 3d printing capability. I was able to mount it inside a double gang AC box. Working great and staying cool.
Can’t you resin fill some of those? Like the happy camper!
It could be done
Can the bits get dull and can they be sharpened?
I am sure they can get dull and will. Maybe…
Can this CNC enable one to do inlays wood in wood?
You could. Would need the appropriate software
@@TheClackShack could you recommend which software would be able to run the machine and handle the inlay. I want to do some simple letters and designs
@@TheClackShack I want to eventually get the shapeoko pro, so if possible some software that will work with both if possible
So you're saying bits is it?
Sure
Does the genmitsu have z travel?
Z travel?
does the spindle move up and down automatically@@TheClackShack
Now add dust that the vacuum doesn’t pickup.
Sounds like your handling the learning curve OK.
I’ll watch from the side line.
I can see it getting much messier when I add the dewalt…
Your alignment happens when you put your dimensions in the software.
Yes, but when using something that has a design on it, you have to account for where it is in the workspace.
Throw those stock clamps away. Get XFasten woodworkers tape.
I will say they are my least favorite part of the machine
Scroll to 55% of the video to skip unnecessary talk about nothing.
You got jokes, good thing I don't care....Thanks for watching
That’s rude I love the talking I’m learning
Things to know when getting this CNC - we should not watch your videos if we expect to get any useful information about the actual machine...
Aren’t you just a delightful person. Your folks sure are proud.
I don't want to be a jerk, but like you, I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I spend $3k on CN setup. But 10 minutes into a 25 minute video all I've heard is get some different bits. Not what kind, not for what material, not where, not why. Just get some bits. Sorry guy, thumbs down. I feel like you wasted my time.
Everyone has their own opinions, others differ. I am not a salesman