Evolution of the Dutch-Made AR10

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    The AR-10 rifle was developed in the United States (Hollywood California, specifically) by Eugene Stoner, but the Armalite company did not have a suitable large scale manufacturing facility to produce the number of guns they expected to sell to military forces. Instead, a deal was struck to license production to the Dutch firm of Artillerie Inrichtingen in Delft. Production would only run for about 4 years before the Dutch government shut down arms production for political reasons, but during that time the AR-10 rifle would undergo significant evolution.
    Today were are looking at three examples of the rifle. First is a Cuban pattern, second is a Sudanese pattern, and third is a Portuguese pattern. These do a good job of showing the changes from the early (pre-Dutch military trials) and late patterns of the rifle, as it gradually traded increased weight for increased durability and more features.
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Komentáře • 767

  • @beavisbutt-headson3223
    @beavisbutt-headson3223 Před 5 lety +724

    I like how they snuck the StG 44 inbetween the AKs like it just belonged there

    • @nicklemberger3101
      @nicklemberger3101 Před 5 lety +184

      It's 2019, they can identify however they want

    • @miguelencanarias
      @miguelencanarias Před 5 lety +35

      @Beavis Butt-Headson Did you just assume its gend... sorry, its classification??? I'm offended!!

    • @miguelencanarias
      @miguelencanarias Před 5 lety +21

      @Huckleberry LOL I'm triggered (as is everything else in Ian's videos).

    • @miguelencanarias
      @miguelencanarias Před 5 lety +3

      @Huckleberry ROFL

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 Před 5 lety +4

      I'm sure it has something to do with how they organize all of the many firearms they have

  • @hildoschutte6200
    @hildoschutte6200 Před 5 lety +539

    Fun fact:
    Apparently AR10's faced each other at least once in combat:
    In 1972 a Dutch doctor spent a few months ‘behind the lines’ with the liberation movement MPLA in Angola, which at the time was still a Portugese colony.
    In the report of his trip he mentioned that the MPLA had a number of Sudanese AR10’s, probably delivered through a solidarity program of the Organisation of African Unity, which were used in combat against a group of Portugese para’s wielding the same rifle (or, as we’ve learnt from this video: A variety of the same rifle).

  • @SoYFooD2
    @SoYFooD2 Před 5 lety +370

    the funny thing is the dutch army later adopted a M16A2 variant but due to high demand the guns was made under license in Canada by dimaco. (die making companie love that name)they made most of the blank uppers and lowers for colt so they made half of the gun anyway.
    they were named the dimaco C7 (semi and 3 round burst) and the C8(semi and full)
    and from around 2010 got a upgrade by colt and ar now names the colt C7 and colt C8.
    so an American idea modified by the dutch and sold by a brit was than developed further by the Americans and licensed to Canadians to be sold to the dutch and upgraded by Americans.

    • @BicyclesMayUseFullLane
      @BicyclesMayUseFullLane Před 5 lety +26

      Pretty sure C7 IUR is a Colt Canada only thing. Also, apparently Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco) is a subsidiary of Colt, but operations are not quite connected. That's why when Colt went bankrupt, Colt Canada is chugging along just fine.

    • @SoYFooD2
      @SoYFooD2 Před 5 lety +5

      if had a 1995 and a 1996 model but i believe if seen 1992 cereal numbers.it became colt Canada in 2005
      and one of my buddy's was a weapon repair guy and all spare parts came from colt u.s.a.except for the split pen driver, it was a glock one. strange i know.

    • @MrDmitriRavenoff
      @MrDmitriRavenoff Před 5 lety +2

      And so:The industrial machine marches on.

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 Před 5 lety +7

      @@BicyclesMayUseFullLane Colt Canda has far superior quality control and more modern production facilities vs Colt of course because it was a separate company until Colt bought it out. However Colt Canada only makes firearms for military markets and the Canadian market

    • @Mech1829
      @Mech1829 Před 5 lety +9

      In the CF (Canadian Forces) the C7 is the rifle (0.53 m barrel) and the C8 the carbine (0.40 m barrel) both were/ are full auto - modes of fire in CF C7/C8 are repetition and automatic no 3 round burst as in U.S. M16A2 variants.

  • @dbmail545
    @dbmail545 Před 5 lety +341

    The final Portuguese pattern seems pretty advanced. Shame this gun never got into US service. Even the "heavy" guns are lighter than the M14.

    • @born_2cook
      @born_2cook Před 5 lety +50

      The portuguese got cut off from buying more of them because of an embargo. Back then, fighting to keep control of your colonies when everyone else was letting them go wasn't particularly well seen by the international community :)

    • @ThatGuy-te9wh
      @ThatGuy-te9wh Před 4 lety +21

      @@born_2cook would have ended up being better for Angola and Mozambique.

    • @paullytle1904
      @paullytle1904 Před 4 lety +8

      @@ThatGuy-te9wh america would be better off under England freedom

    • @micuna5743
      @micuna5743 Před 4 lety +27

      @@paullytle1904 comfort?
      Fucking lol

    • @GlobstersMessenger
      @GlobstersMessenger Před 3 lety +14

      @@paullytle1904 yes, having your possessions taken away by authoratarians and your families murdered randomly is certainly preferable to being an untaxed, subsidised puppet state, it's also definately more free

  • @kutamsterdam
    @kutamsterdam Před 5 lety +281

    My Grandpa worked on the barrels of the AR10 at Artillery Inrichtingen in Zaandam The Netherlands wich is a museum now.

    • @kirstie4319
      @kirstie4319 Před 5 lety +6

      Nice story, Br.. *Wait...*

    • @doncarlodivargas5497
      @doncarlodivargas5497 Před 5 lety +1

      His name was Brad too?

    • @dandhan87
      @dandhan87 Před 5 lety +4

      Why Netherlands was not interested in making their guns

    • @zenger74
      @zenger74 Před 5 lety

      Then he most likely did the same with the FAL barrels?

    • @RTmadnesstoo
      @RTmadnesstoo Před 5 lety

      @@seantheguy1391 There are no 'old' Brn-10s.

  • @deviation1000
    @deviation1000 Před 5 lety +1214

    Ah yes, the Dutch AR10s - specifically selected by the Dutch for their waffle magazines, or "stroopwafelsmagazijnen" as they are known in the low countries.

    • @captainbackflash
      @captainbackflash Před 5 lety +16

      *lol*

    • @Silo1195
      @Silo1195 Před 5 lety +54

      Do they come with maple syrup in the cleaning kit though? 🤔

    • @joost1120
      @joost1120 Před 5 lety +141

      @@Silo1195 I think you're confusing the Netherlands with Canada. Understandable, as the C7s and C8s in service in both countries are manufactured in Canada. The Dutch AR-10s came with caramel syrup instead.

    • @deviation1000
      @deviation1000 Před 5 lety +66

      @@Silo1195 No, but the bakelite furniture can be melted down into a chocolate syrup

    • @Sheridan2LT
      @Sheridan2LT Před 5 lety +3

      lol k nerd

  • @mortenrl1946
    @mortenrl1946 Před 2 lety +114

    The Dutch really live up to their merchant reputation, hahah. Love how they managed to get Castro to pay for something he could've just taken, while getting away with making arms deals with hostile foreign powers.

  • @rangefinder3538
    @rangefinder3538 Před 5 lety +505

    Several AR10's were bought by Scandinavian Airlines for their cross polar routes in case the plane crashed and Polar bears showed up.

    • @johnstacy7902
      @johnstacy7902 Před 5 lety +8

      Thats the Retro AR10 Id like to see!!! Not sure if 308 be 1st choice for bears thou.. Suppose to you take out a Caribou or 2 if you got hungry.

    • @pyrrhusofepirus3792
      @pyrrhusofepirus3792 Před 5 lety +67

      @@johnstacy7902 idk I'm sure if you see a polar bear and you slug it 4 or 5 times .308 is more then sufficient I imagine

    • @johnstacy7902
      @johnstacy7902 Před 5 lety +12

      @@pyrrhusofepirus3792 those critters are pretty fast. I'd go with a 12 gage pump. Besides semi mite not work in the super cold. That why the Greenland patrol carries bolt action 30/06

    • @pyrrhusofepirus3792
      @pyrrhusofepirus3792 Před 5 lety +25

      @@johnstacy7902 it may not work that's true I still say 20 rounds of 308 is hard to argue it's not that far of of 30-06 any way but I dont live there I might change my mind if I did

    • @pyrrhusofepirus3792
      @pyrrhusofepirus3792 Před 5 lety +5

      @@theangrycheeto i see the point your trying to make but its the same one you would have with any other potential contemporary replacement magnified because you replacement is probably a bolt gun plus id say if you are trapped in the arctic its probably a good idea to take a more aggressive stance on polar bears then one might otherwise take and have your group shoot them on sight

  • @ADRay1999
    @ADRay1999 Před 5 lety +359

    I am so thankful that Brownells is Reproducing the retro AR 10 (BRN-10)
    and the other retro AR rifles

    • @johnstacy7902
      @johnstacy7902 Před 5 lety +3

      their Retail Store is pretty cool....

    • @wilsonj4705
      @wilsonj4705 Před 5 lety +15

      If only the plastic they chose for the furniture didn't look so cheesy

    • @johnstacy7902
      @johnstacy7902 Před 5 lety +13

      @@wilsonj4705 be really expensive to make those out of fibre glass nowadaze... With entry level ARs under $300 they had to come up with some goofy idea to sell guns... by goofy I meant inavative.

    • @wilsonj4705
      @wilsonj4705 Před 5 lety +18

      Understand that. It's just that the ones I've seen the plastic looked like something on a cheap Chinese made toy and not something I would expect on a $1,500 rifle.

    • @johnstacy7902
      @johnstacy7902 Před 5 lety +6

      @@wilsonj4705 If you got froggy I dont think Carbon Fibre handguards be too hard to make. Sort of of a "one and done".... Just save your old ones

  • @Scooby556
    @Scooby556 Před 5 lety +48

    At 20:00, you’ll note the bolt catch has a spacer insert in the front. Early AR10s would develop a crack in the lower at this point. They solved it by just adding an insert. Also, on the Portuguese, a good number of transitional lowers had earlier lowers converted to the new charging handle by dovetailing the riser at the rear, covering the charging handle cutout.

  • @richardkeller4234
    @richardkeller4234 Před 5 lety +56

    In sixth grade my orthodontists office entrance was down a hallway on the ground floor behind an office building. One of the first office doors after entering had a “Inter Arms” sign on the door. On one appointment the Inter Arms office door was open a little and i could see a whole wall of military looking rifle weapons.
    RK

    • @ThatGuy-te9wh
      @ThatGuy-te9wh Před 4 lety +1

      Did you grow up in Arlington, VA?

    • @Blondie-Actual
      @Blondie-Actual Před 3 lety +1

      Damn, most people I know hate going to the orthodontist. You were lucky.

  • @dutchman2205
    @dutchman2205 Před 3 lety +31

    In the ‘70’s, ‘80’s and ‘90’s, the Dutch made AR10’s were very around in the target shooting community. In those (pre-AR15) days, the AR10 was the only rifle that was accurate enough to be a platform that could win matches. The only rifles that could meet AR10 accuracy were a good and accurized M14 and Springfield 1903A3.
    You could buy a AI Hembrug AR10 for approximately $1200,- in the late ‘90’s early 2000’s.
    Since the AR15 became dominant in match conditions, AR10’s are literally forgotten here in the Netherlands.
    Fun fact: When the FAL became chosen to become the new rifle for the Dutch army and the government stopped funding the AR10 project, AI Hembrug employees could buy the remaining manufactured AR10 parts for scrap metal prizes, and eventually ended up on the civilian market. Gun shops assembled rifles from al the part they had, so here in Holland it was very common to see weird unofficial versions. Hybrid versions.
    They were just ‘Dutch’ made rifles once here, but now most spare parts are dried out, people that had close relations with former AI Hembrug employees died, the AR10 is expensive now.
    The last fire arm ever manufactured in Holland. Now it’s History

    • @ChaohsiangChen
      @ChaohsiangChen Před rokem

      Judging by the situation right now, the Dutch people need yhe 2nd Amendment and hopefully will produce AR pattern rifles in .308 for the Dutch civilians soon.

  • @granknutterbutter3472
    @granknutterbutter3472 Před 4 lety +28

    The Portuguese pattern with the integral bipod is just so beautiful

    • @g.galordy9853
      @g.galordy9853 Před 2 lety +2

      I found one in mint condition a year ago. Bought it without second thought. Just sits in the safe. I am afraid to scratch it haha

  • @Marcel_Germann
    @Marcel_Germann Před 2 lety +5

    German Bundeswehr tested the AR-10 too, designation G4. The numbers are not only given to firearms which are really introduced into service, the numbers are given already at the test. G1 was the FAL, and the Bundeswehr looked out for a replacement of that one. G2 was a SIG 510 in 7.62mm NATO. And I think everyone here knows the G3. And since some licensing issues, they wanted the rifle produced domestically in license, the Bundeswehr picked the G3 and introduced it in 1959. And even if it's replaced by the G36 now, the G3 is still kept as a reserve rifle. There are several bunkers in Germany, at secret locations, where several are stored and maintained. They even retrofitted it to modern standards like ambidextreous safeties and a case deflector for left handed shooters.

  • @aghostbro
    @aghostbro Před 5 lety +136

    Bet all the other fighters were SUPER jealous of that dude in Yemen with the OG AR-10.

    • @Gladiator34B
      @Gladiator34B Před 5 lety +11

      Aghost Bro lol they probably didn’t even know what it was called

    • @Gladiator34B
      @Gladiator34B Před 5 lety +1

      Titanium Rain definitely

    • @artemis_smith
      @artemis_smith Před 2 lety +5

      Depends on if they had a steady supply of the right ammo. No one's jealous of a guy stuck with a gun he can't use.

  • @johndrake5014
    @johndrake5014 Před 5 lety +10

    An excellent video. Around 1979/80 an outfit, don't remember the name, imported around three-hundred AR-10's. They turned in the lower receivers and had new semi-auto only ones made up. The anodizing on the lower was very close to the color of the upper. I purchased one. The gun was in great condition except for some corrosion in the bore. It came with ten "waffle" magazines. It was fairly accurate and a delight to shoot. One of my many "I wish I still had it" guns.

  • @TheWhiteDragon3
    @TheWhiteDragon3 Před 3 lety +41

    "...presumably with _someone else's_ money." Ha! Never change, Ian!

  • @atinofspam3433
    @atinofspam3433 Před 2 lety +5

    AR-10s and FN FALs look so good with wooden furniture

  • @centblinde1450
    @centblinde1450 Před 5 lety +20

    I really hope Brownells makes a Portuguese model. Been holding out for it, but no joy yet...

  • @Swat_Dennis
    @Swat_Dennis Před 5 lety +55

    Imo it is kinda sad how the Dutch above all nations had to go and build US guns, the nation with the biggest arms industry in the world.
    Still as someone from the Netherlands, I kinda feel proud about these guns...

    • @AgentDanielCross
      @AgentDanielCross Před 5 lety +4

      Well, with Armalite, they couldn't exactly produce it like the big wigs, so why not?

    • @AgentDanielCross
      @AgentDanielCross Před 5 lety

      @@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Exactly! They are a real piece of art!

    • @charlesadams1721
      @charlesadams1721 Před 5 lety +2

      Well, back in the mid-50’s the Soviet Union was still working mightily to produce more guns to help spread the revolution to the remainder of the world. After all, the China was still a virtually a client state of the Soviets and the North Koreans were getting all sorts of arms production from the Soviets as well.

  • @lfr5007
    @lfr5007 Před 5 lety +216

    Love the 'Some one else money' joke!

    • @phileas007
      @phileas007 Před 5 lety +51

      yeah, cause like any other gvmt isn't spending "someone else's cash" at all, right

    • @lfr5007
      @lfr5007 Před 5 lety +24

      @@phileas007 taxation is theft.

    • @aaronrushton1
      @aaronrushton1 Před 5 lety +22

      Gun jesus may be an expert on firearms, but not on politics unfortunately.

    • @theJellyjoker
      @theJellyjoker Před 5 lety +42

      That is how communism works, it's all fun and games until you run out of other people's money.

    • @ThisOldHat
      @ThisOldHat Před 5 lety +44

      All wealth is created by workers. Communism is when workers control the product of their ow labor. Its capitalists who pay for everything with wealth produced by other people. Modern Cuba does a better job of taking care of its people than the US with a fraction the wealth per-capita. Better health care, better nutrition, better housing, higher literacy rate, etc.

  • @dakotajohnson4229
    @dakotajohnson4229 Před 2 lety +6

    Hey Ian, I wanted to thank you as I have a lab this week involving my Stag 10 build. Due the it's nature, it uses parts from the AR10/SR25 as well as that of lr308/DPMS. I needed to do research on the platform and it's different iterations. You have been one of my greatest source this entire time

  • @Friendly-Unit
    @Friendly-Unit Před 5 lety +5

    Thank you for all of the amazing content, happy New year

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 Před 5 lety +42

    Ian talks AR10? Yes please!
    Seems amazing to me that just 5 years before the British army were still using SMLE in Korea. An AR10 must have seemed like a sci fi super gun.

    • @lizardb8694
      @lizardb8694 Před 5 lety +17

      Matt Hayward it gets better, in 1956 during the Suez crisis British forces were still using No. 4 Mk 2 Lee Enfields against opposition that was armed with self loading rifles.

    • @matthayward7889
      @matthayward7889 Před 5 lety

      AnPrime that’s cool. Do you remember the name of the show?

    • @matthayward7889
      @matthayward7889 Před 5 lety +1

      LizardB86 I didn’t know that! Must have been disheartening to say the least. Thank god for the Bren!

    • @matthayward7889
      @matthayward7889 Před 5 lety

      zoiders especially the carbine EM2 with the shorter barrel!

    • @MrSplic3r
      @MrSplic3r Před 5 lety

      Well, as Ian mentions early in the video, they WERE designed in Hollywood. American Movie Magic Laser Sprayer!

  • @Silo1195
    @Silo1195 Před 5 lety +3

    I like that you started to add pictures explaining some of the references that you are talking about (e.g. the Guatemalan gun, etc.). That really helps visualize.

  • @monsieursir1305
    @monsieursir1305 Před 5 lety +256

    Ah perfect, my trees were starting to speak Vietnamese and I was starting to get worried

    • @monsieursir1305
      @monsieursir1305 Před 5 lety +12

      @@rayfeltz8477 oh god oh fuck

    • @monsieursir1305
      @monsieursir1305 Před 5 lety +9

      @Huckleberry Sarge don't call in Napalm on our position I have a wife and kids

    • @Warriorcat49
      @Warriorcat49 Před 5 lety +31

      Just so long as the snow doesn’t start speaking Finnish...

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis Před 3 lety +4

      @@Warriorcat49
      "Ylös pojat Pohjanmaan!
      Urhot kalliit Karjalan!
      Jäämit ja Savon miehet rintamahan!"

    • @hendo337
      @hendo337 Před 3 lety +3

      "What is your malfunction Private Pyle, did mommy and daddy not hug you enough as a child?"

  • @LivvorMorthis
    @LivvorMorthis Před 5 lety +1

    Seeing this wall behind you is enough to make my mouth water. Those are some very good looking pieces

  • @m.3591
    @m.3591 Před 3 lety

    Such a great channel. Your knowledge blows me away.

  • @koenvangeleuken2853
    @koenvangeleuken2853 Před 4 lety +3

    you can see some connection of the last AR10 with the FAL the dutch army ordered: these too all had (heavy) bipods, and metal(heavy ) handguards, and they were restricted to semi-auto only. it was considered that the average conscript could not handle full-auto.

  • @louis6842
    @louis6842 Před 5 lety +2

    It would be so awesome to see a video on the Hollywood pattern of AR-10s, with their funky carry handles and tin can muzzle compensators.

  • @doncarlton4858
    @doncarlton4858 Před 5 lety +3

    Ian, thanks for another great video on the AR 10! I've been a fan of these rifles since the late 1970s but I've learned more from your videos than I knew before! Following you I'm becoming the Military Arms SME among my local shooters!

  • @jamesdewer
    @jamesdewer Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks Ian! This video dovetails nicely with the book "The ArmaLite AR-10 Rifle: The Saga of the First Modern Combat Rifle" The 2nd edition completely updated revisions by author a US Army infantry officer Captain S. Pikula. A great first-person narrative of a soldier that may well have been so armed had the 10 been adopted. You can see why it wasn't adopted and how it's such a shame that it wasn't. The book is concise and only mentions the distinctions not comparisons with the AR15. Completely different the 10 and 15. Thanks for this great AI

  • @MetalHippie83
    @MetalHippie83 Před 5 lety

    Stuck in a hotel for drill in my weekend, And I see this lovely vid pop up in my sub box, welp time to kick back and enjoy a bud, thanks Ian for salvaging at least a little of my weekend!

  • @ferway6295
    @ferway6295 Před 5 lety

    Excellent video, very informative. Keep up the great work!

  • @keithweiss7899
    @keithweiss7899 Před 3 lety +7

    In the early 1980’s I was at the Ohio gun collector’s show in Columbus. There was a dealer selling AR-10 semi-auto receivers there. I recall that they were made by the old Sendra Corp. There were parts kits from Portugal being brought in to the U.S. at the time. I debated about buying one but decided against it. Another decision I regret!

  • @brianrmc1963
    @brianrmc1963 Před 8 měsíci

    All of your stories are excellent, but this is one of the most interesting.

  • @GermanDude1126
    @GermanDude1126 Před 5 lety +24

    So early the view count is lower than the combined mag capacity of those rifles on the table.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon Před 4 lety +4

    I love that on the Cuban gun, it looks like someone took it on himself to hand-scribe "HOLLAND" below the factory mark for "Nederland", in case anyone couldn't figure out where Nederland is. (I know, I know, Dutch people, Holland is only _part_ of the Netherlands, but even so...)

    • @quasimodo8959
      @quasimodo8959 Před 2 lety

      Yeah often it's said it's a province ( by foreigners ). But it's not. There is North-holland and Zuid-Holland ( provinces ). There's a total of 12 provinces.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear Před 5 lety +52

    AWESOME video

    • @treyfannin4037
      @treyfannin4037 Před 5 lety +2

      @@kommando92 indeed indeed

    • @blue_ridge_shooting7668
      @blue_ridge_shooting7668 Před 5 lety +1

      @@kommando92 indeed indeed indeed indeed

    • @jobRobbemond
      @jobRobbemond Před 3 lety

      @@kommando92 indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed

    • @mrpirate6187
      @mrpirate6187 Před 3 lety

      job Robbemond indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed

    • @BradKarlovec
      @BradKarlovec Před 3 lety

      @@mrpirate6187 indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed

  • @rideablepanda
    @rideablepanda Před 4 lety

    Work in a dutch gun store and someone brought the one with the bipod and I was absolutely amazed gun feels amazing

  • @pops55650
    @pops55650 Před 3 lety +1

    Whenever I need to learn about a gun I come across, this is my first resource to learn about it.

  • @Steveindajeep
    @Steveindajeep Před 5 lety

    Damn it Ian...im trying to get shit done this saturday and you post this, now i gotta watch it.

  • @mikehunter5046
    @mikehunter5046 Před 4 lety

    Excellent job Ian!!

  • @dawnofjustice4689
    @dawnofjustice4689 Před 4 lety +1

    If you ever go there again, Ian, please make a video about that short weapon on the wall right behind you.
    It looks very interesting for me :)

  • @michaelfodor6280
    @michaelfodor6280 Před 5 lety +3

    Interesting note that in Canada, AR-10 derived rifles (Stag 10, NEA/BCL 102, and the Alberta Tactical's Modern Varmint, Sporter & Hunter) are non restricted while AR-15 derived rifles are all restricted. (Basically range queen use only.) The big difference (besides caliber) between my Stag 10 and Smith & Wesson M&P 15 is that the back of the upper is slanted on the Stag 10 while the M&P 15's is curved. And that's apparently all the difference needed to keep the RCMP happy. Aren't gun laws great?

    • @fuzzwork
      @fuzzwork Před 5 lety

      The RCMP seem to be allergic to .223 semi automatic rifles, but not .308 for some reason

  • @paulmurphy3496
    @paulmurphy3496 Před 5 lety +2

    For one of your upcoming videos, can you explore the Colt MARS Experiment, particularly the two cartridges that it was potentially chambered for?

  • @martentrudeau6948
    @martentrudeau6948 Před 2 lety +1

    Really excellent history, good stuff.

  • @flipzhat
    @flipzhat Před 5 lety +1

    I need one of these in my life they just look so damn good

  • @maximilianmustermann5763
    @maximilianmustermann5763 Před 3 lety +6

    Dutch government to Dutch manufacturer: "We're not going to buy this awesome gun made in our own country, we're rather buying FALs from abroad". Then a few years later: "oh you got a nice deal with Portugal? Guess what? We're shutting you down!" LOL WTF? This kind of government behaviour sounds even worse than what I'm used to in Germany...

  • @jessicasimp4459
    @jessicasimp4459 Před 5 lety

    I watched several AR-10 clips last night until this one appeared in my news feed. Wow, it's a lucky coincidence.

  • @feelthepayne88
    @feelthepayne88 Před 5 lety +3

    Those are some beautiful rifles.

  • @rdeanbenson2214
    @rdeanbenson2214 Před 2 lety +18

    Being a Nam Combat Vet (I carried a Thompson), I can appreciate the AR10. We should have had those (SEALS did, I believe). The FN-FAL would have been a better choice though.

    • @CatsAreAmazing8187
      @CatsAreAmazing8187 Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you for your service.

    • @CL-vz6ch
      @CL-vz6ch Před 2 lety +1

      @@CatsAreAmazing8187 thank you for thanking him for his service

  • @jimpage1296
    @jimpage1296 Před 5 lety

    Hey Ian ! Love your channel and check in everyday. Could You do a video on the Czech ZB47 SMG ? Perhaps the most forgotten of all SMG’s.

  • @BNoakville
    @BNoakville Před 5 lety +4

    Always loved that charging handle position over the current one.

    • @petesheppard1709
      @petesheppard1709 Před 5 lety +2

      I remember long ago, when I first saw that, wondering what a second trigger was doing on top! :p
      It does look practical, but I understand it got hot, and interferes with optics (that Sudanese sniper variant notwithstanding)--though it wasn't an issue back then.

  • @randomfamilyman4876
    @randomfamilyman4876 Před 5 lety +211

    I want a wall like that in my man cave

    • @randomfamilyman4876
      @randomfamilyman4876 Před 5 lety +7

      Dylan White I can build the walls, getting my hands on the firearms will be the problem!

    • @miguelencanarias
      @miguelencanarias Před 5 lety +1

      Me too, but any wife on this planet would object, so here we are...

    • @joshuahjfarquharm.3269
      @joshuahjfarquharm.3269 Před 5 lety +8

      it wouldn't fit in my man cave, I just have crapper and a locking door.

    • @randomfamilyman4876
      @randomfamilyman4876 Před 5 lety

      Joshuahj Farquharm. I call that “the safe house” only place I can escape the wife and kids for an extended period of time

    • @randomfamilyman4876
      @randomfamilyman4876 Před 5 lety +1

      Miguel Domínguez right on

  • @bosnakedisniksic
    @bosnakedisniksic Před 2 lety +11

    Those numerals are actual Arabic numerals. And the "Latin numerals" you mentioned are called Arabic numerals. But of course some changes were made while making their way to western Europe.

    • @bosnakedisniksic
      @bosnakedisniksic Před 9 měsíci

      @@upscaleshack let me guess, Iranian/Persian Nationalist?

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 Před 5 lety +5

    The Portuguese version is the one I have. Granted, it's one of the semi-auto parts kit guns, and it doesn't have the cool bipod, but hey its still pretty neat!

  • @_DANZIG_
    @_DANZIG_ Před 5 lety +1

    Hey Ian, i would like to see an updatevideo on your selfbuild house !

  • @markw999
    @markw999 Před 3 lety

    Interesting that all of these changes, some of them pretty significant if you think about the internals, were able to be made in such a short time frame. I bet this would take a lot longer these days.

  • @randywatson8347
    @randywatson8347 Před 5 lety

    Really cool collection. Bipod version is interesting.
    Seeying that Dutch manufacturing stamp on an AR10 it's a rare thing.

  • @TheFunkeyfish
    @TheFunkeyfish Před 5 lety +1

    Hi Ian, Greetings from Norway. I have seen many of your videos in recent years, not all but many. You do a crazy good job of telling the story and features of these weapons not all of us can get over. Can you or do you have the opportunity to look at Benelli SPAS-15? Keep up with what you are doing !

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 5 lety

    Thank you , Ian ,

  • @theoctobers3728
    @theoctobers3728 Před 5 lety

    Would you ever do a video of your personal firearm collection? By the way huge fan and great informative videos.

  • @aiayou
    @aiayou Před 5 lety +5

    Big thanks for kilos subtitles. Please do it again.

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers2603 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Ian!

  • @DJJ81
    @DJJ81 Před rokem

    “They agreed to pay for them…presumably with someone else’s money” is the best line I’ve ever heard Ian drop. Well played, sir.

  • @cf8027
    @cf8027 Před 5 lety +2

    Please do a review on a ShKAS aircraft machine gun if you can get your hands on one. I'm very interested in how this gun works.

  • @newdefsys
    @newdefsys Před 5 lety

    Thanks, Ian

  • @wavular
    @wavular Před 3 lety

    21:15 I notice the updated version's Gas key looks a bit wider in the interior of the cylinder on the updated version?

  • @monsieurdubois2830
    @monsieurdubois2830 Před rokem

    Definitely a platform ahead of it's time. I own an AR308 and that wouldn't be possible without Mr. Stoner's vision. Thank you, sir, and thank you, Ian, for the great content!

  • @NinjaSyndication
    @NinjaSyndication Před 5 lety +2

    the cuban ones have a wonderful story, great video btw

  • @Darth-Nihilus1
    @Darth-Nihilus1 Před 5 lety +2

    Ian can you please do a video on the difference between the SR25, Sig 716, Hk 417 and Hk G28

  • @thadude1337
    @thadude1337 Před 5 lety +45

    One point i'd like to inform you of, normal numbers 1 2 3 is West Arabic numerals. Latin or roman numerals is I V X L

    • @forestalfrank1074
      @forestalfrank1074 Před 5 lety +8

      We actually use Hindu numerals which the Arabs got when conquering India (~ today Pakistan) and pretended they are of their own origin.

    • @vrisbrianm4720
      @vrisbrianm4720 Před 5 lety +12

      @@forestalfrank1074 They are called Arabic numerals because they were introduced to the West by the Arab merchants. The Arabs themselves have called it Hindu numerals since the beginning

    • @cs-rj8ru
      @cs-rj8ru Před 3 lety +1

      I'd like to inform you that you would write 123 ARE West Arabic numerals. ARE not IS....
      That aside I'd give those teachers in Charleston, WV a B+. It appears they did teach you something....

  • @hendo337
    @hendo337 Před 3 lety

    I LOVE the trigger like charging pull handle in the carry handle, I'd love to have an AR15 made that way.

  • @weirdsciencethe2nd205
    @weirdsciencethe2nd205 Před 3 lety

    I got to shoot a weird 22wmr ar10 copy but it had exhibition grade walnut furniture and a rather tasty brass trigger shoe and a brass muzzle break and it had a leopuld optic on it so not really the same gun but this is its great great grandads cousin i was getting one hole groups at 100m but id put that to the walther lothar barrel its got its stunning 18inch of german perfection 12 grove with a perfect 30 degree crown lovely trigger too i think it was a volquatzen jobby but a good polish of the sears and a trigger shoe makes stock m4 triggers near mach grade anyway

  • @miguelencanarias
    @miguelencanarias Před 5 lety

    Ian, at 21:38... is it me or the screws in the gas keys don't seem to be staked in both BCGs?

  • @meadball1
    @meadball1 Před 5 lety +2

    "...They agreed to pay for them, presumably with someones elses money..." This is why Ian is awesome!

  • @PenguinInTheHat
    @PenguinInTheHat Před 5 lety

    Please can you either cover or recommend a channel that provides information on the manufacturing process of guns and for early cartridges the chemical composition of primers and the explosive parts of cartridges

  • @CoreySimmons85
    @CoreySimmons85 Před 5 lety +2

    It would be sooo awesome if Brownells did the Portuguese pattern ar10 someday.

  • @edwardburns24
    @edwardburns24 Před 5 lety

    Great video!!

  • @celmer6
    @celmer6 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. Perhaps it's time to bring "What Would Stoner Do" to the AR-10? It would be very interesting to see your take on the Modern lightweight 7.62x51 AR platform build. Your "What Would Stoner Do" series got me into a Carbon Fiber lightweight build for my girlfriend and then my sister wanted 1 too and talked my mom into 1.

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 Před 3 lety

      I think Ian mentioned this once, we literally got a wwsd ar10. Aka the knights armament ar10, literally designed by stoner himself

  • @pistolero486
    @pistolero486 Před 5 lety +2

    Love the AR-10. I think a very underrated beast.

  • @machinist2547
    @machinist2547 Před 3 lety +2

    AI, later named Eurometaal, continued making munition until 2003. Another interesting gun made by them is the experimental Garand with an AR10 magazine.

  • @nicklemberger3101
    @nicklemberger3101 Před 5 lety +6

    I can't recall ever even touching a real firearm, but I watch and thoroughly enjoy every video on this channel 👍

    • @r6984
      @r6984 Před 5 lety +1

      Get a break barrel pellet rifle, learn, get a .22, practice, fall in love with freedom

    • @DankbeastPaul
      @DankbeastPaul Před 5 lety

      @Dave well in some places they're kinda illegal until you go through a fuckton of paperwork and money, and even then it's only smoothbore guns and even THEN you are only allowed to use it for hunting

    • @Stormcloakvictory
      @Stormcloakvictory Před 3 lety +1

      @@r6984 .22 pellet rifle? or .22 firearm?
      The latter is sadly also illegal here, unless you go though alot of paper work, time and money.
      Dutch air gun laws are more lenient than British or German ones if I recall, so that's something 🤷

    • @r6984
      @r6984 Před 3 lety

      @@Stormcloakvictory either pellet of firearm, also don't underestimate airguns they can be quite powerful.

    • @Southernguitar74
      @Southernguitar74 Před 3 lety

      This comment saddens me. Any good man who wants to not only touch, but own and enjoy firearms should damn well have the right to do so.

  • @brucecoleman7412
    @brucecoleman7412 Před 3 lety

    Those are pretty slick!

  • @stoneblue1795
    @stoneblue1795 Před 5 lety +1

    Holy windmills Batman, cool stuff!

  • @wavular
    @wavular Před 3 lety

    The built in bi pod is very cool!

    • @stever8776
      @stever8776 Před 3 lety

      Like some of the FALs.
      Wish I still had my FAL☹

  • @Spike-13
    @Spike-13 Před 5 lety

    Really amazing! were any of these in the AR15 volume 1 coffee table book?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  Před 5 lety +1

      Not these specific guns, but a selection of AR10s were in there.

    • @Spike-13
      @Spike-13 Před 5 lety

      @@ForgottenWeapons yeah I remember them from the book just curious if any of these specifically were photographed; as you mentioned, they are fairly rare

  • @TheBuffaloSamurai
    @TheBuffaloSamurai Před 5 lety +200

    "(Castro, and Guevara) paid for them.... presumably with SOMEONE ELSE'S money."
    nice....

    • @tokul76
      @tokul76 Před 5 lety +17

      Or ironic if they paid with Batista's money.

    • @betweenthebennyandme
      @betweenthebennyandme Před 5 lety +62

      Trying to figure out how our military isn't buying shit with someone else's money.

    • @betweenthebennyandme
      @betweenthebennyandme Před 5 lety +4

      @@tokul76 money given to him by the US in the first place.

    • @robinrakoextra8800
      @robinrakoextra8800 Před 5 lety +4

      Commies

    • @skotiskiller
      @skotiskiller Před 5 lety +39

      Castro and Che used these weapons to defend the Cuban people interests in the invasion in the Bay of Pigs and to improve their living standard in contrast to USA who used these weapons to kill millions of people all over the world AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AMERICANS WHO DIED OUTSIDE OF THEIR COUNTRY.
      I prefer Castro and Che usage personally.

  • @duachim
    @duachim Před 5 lety

    Another great video, first rate content.

  • @robbytheremin2443
    @robbytheremin2443 Před 5 lety

    What do you think about the newer DPMS pattern AR-10?
    I own a couple.
    One in .308 and the other in 6.5 Creedmoor and I love them.
    If you are ever in southwest Missouri you are welcome to shoot them.

  • @ManMak6
    @ManMak6 Před 5 lety +2

    That Bakelite though 😍😍😍

  • @arnbo88
    @arnbo88 Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much for profiling the Sudanese AR-10 which was my very first rifle back in Canada back in 1983 and I contributed to the AR-10er magazine publication back then. I think that I may still have the waffle magazines somewhere...I wonder if they're worth anything? I've also used the Cuban model which is sometimes referred to as the civilian model due to a lack of a bayonet. There were numerous changes and parts interchange in those days. My Sudanese had Arabic markings but the bolt carrier was more like the Portuguese model. You forgot to mention that the Sudanese model also had a fluted barrel in order to reduce weight and aid in cooling. The real cool part was the first bayonet which featured a tool kit in the handle including a corkscrew and gas adjustment tool. At the front of the front site post are two tiny little holes. This is how you adjust the gas system in a Sudanese AR-10. Can you please do a review of the original "Squareback" AR-10 with the tomato can muzzle brake? I once saw an example of this in the NRA museum in Washington D.C. Thanks again.

  • @farmerbrown84
    @farmerbrown84 Před rokem

    YIPPPPEEEEEE... Got my Portuguese model AR-10 today!!! I've been after one for years. Surprisingly, its serial number is very close to the one Ian shows here.

  • @dustinewing7974
    @dustinewing7974 Před 2 měsíci

    I wish Brownells didn't have to discontinue those retro rifles with the trigger-style charging handles... they were so darn cool!

  • @louwn
    @louwn Před 5 lety

    do you have acces to the dutch AR-10 carbines?
    I have found some pictures but no real info prob never made alot, i was hoping you knew more.
    The site i found seems to be atleast 10-20 years old.
    Lot of pictures but only a couple lines of text.

  • @randallpetroelje3913
    @randallpetroelje3913 Před 3 lety +4

    I’d love to shoot all. Stoner was a beautiful and brilliant designer. From what I understand the original was a ..308. Then switched to.225. A lot of parts,beautiful. Thanks again for your show 👍. I heard that the fn/fals had some problems?? Just curious.

    • @JG54206
      @JG54206 Před 2 lety

      That’s correct. The AR-10 was the original design which was then scaled down into the AR-15.

  • @gradh3123
    @gradh3123 Před 5 lety

    Really cool video

  • @MrMotorz
    @MrMotorz Před 4 lety

    It seems to me to see above the cal. specs the symbol BNP. It´s possible that the rifle was examined by the spanish BNP (Banco Nacional de Pruebas) in Eibar? Or maybe is the same name for the portuguese testing departament?
    Thank you

  • @wavular
    @wavular Před 3 lety

    Hey Ian, has anyone ever mentioned the front sight looking very much like a big letter "A" from the side? As in "Armalite" Do you know if this was intentional or was it just a coincidence?