Off The Record: What Things Have You Stopped Believing In?
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Special Thanks to Our Guest & Friend:
Shapel Lacey
• Instagram: / shapellacey
Cast:
• Hosted by Ryanimay
• Commentary by: Anthony Lee, Joe Jitsukawa, Bart Kwan, Nick Dunn, Steve Greene
• Edited by Candy Edits: www.candyedits.com
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That was a good ass conversation, I don’t know any creators that are legitimately this open and real about themselves
HAHAHA JOE’S SIDE EYE FACE AT 10:16 WHEN BART SAID “…that’s exactly what you were asking for…”
I feel like Shapel fits in nicely with the group
JK honestly be getting me through my work day. videos get released perfectly with my lunch break and 15 min breaks
bro same
Omg sameeee
Same
I watch them while I work 😂
To add to Shapel's story about the chick at the Steelers game, she got slapped after getting all up in the guys' face and slapping him, and then her man tried to jump in to defend her and got his ass laid out by the same dude. Not only did her instigating with the dude get herself slapped, it got her man knocked out cold.
I remember that, but I don't think that was even her man, it was just some white knight that tried to stop the whole mess... he learned real quick, mind ur business
I was hard-core Catholic and I no longer am. Loved this episode and I've watched the LDS documentary. Crazy people.
Sounds very similar to the Tony Alamo cult. Very similar story and huge sex trafficking ring, huge in Texas and Arkansas and perhaps Oklahoma. My hometown is where they had a huge like church and maybe 20 miles away they had a compound for people that they're now renting out to people
I saw a post one time on reddit and this guy said he was an atheist and his coworker or someone found out. So the person says to him, what’s keeping you from killing someone or raping someone if you don’t believe in God? He was like “because it’s shitty to kill people and raping is wrong?“
If you need a bible and all this to be a good person, something is essentially wrong with you as a human and you need help.
That is not the point being made. Can you explain why it is ''shitty' to kill people and what the meaning of wrong is? Why is it wrong? Sometimes killing someone is justified right?
Everybody instictively knows that killing someone is wrong and that rape is wrong. But WHY? Where does the conscience come from? Is Gods law written on our hearts? Or do we just say that it is wrong so it is wrong?
We do not need the bible to know basic right from wrong, this is true. But the bible confirms our conscience.
But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people - Jeremiah 31:33
@@Bhaxs you understand some people are born without the ability too empathize…..to them it doesn’t feel wrong to kill…
Where they created by the devil? Or did god forget to sprinkle in the morality/empathy lol
@@ModestMang
The ABILITY to empathize is learned and can be taught.
People are born with different emphathetic capacities. Some people have more some have less, depending on the genetic make-up. But you can still nurture them to have empathy even with a low capacity.
When you have a empathy disorder, it is partly due to genetics but MOSTLY due to nurture. Did they have a good childhood ? Were they born in a war torn country? What kind of morals and ethics were they taught? What kind of friends did they have?
I knew a atheist and he was just a regular guy. He might splurge on video games that's it. It's scary how people know and experience stuff is from online and movies now.
@@Bhaxs there are tests to scale the empathy of an individual, I agree peoples empathy levels vary.
Culture/environments affect each person differently. People can be taught to fake emotions to benefit them selfs or others.
I used to be in denial about my asianness in high school because at the time I felt disconnected from it and asian stuff was not considered cool like it is these days. But since then I have found myself and my passion and am trilingual (Chinese and Korean) and have embraced who I am
I’m glad you’ve found your way, bro.
School’s do a great job at “identity/cultural erasure” for the sake of a singular conformity. Not to mention, there’s hardly ever any Asian history taught, in western schools.
I’m Asian but I look middle eastern. My identity was always based on my religion. Like yourself, it wasn’t until I ventured into learning Mandarin and a bit of Korean, that I started to appreciate not only my own Asian ancestry but Asia, as a whole.
@@billyracks how do you miss the point this badly?
Bart Joe and anthony sitting together is pretty legendary
What a great episode! Love these kind of chats
To say that punk is not a black thing is ignorant. The band Bad Brains, which is comprised of all black musician, is considered to be the pioneers of hard core punk. There is also a band from Detroit called Death, also comprised of all black musicians, that many see as the first punk rock band in the world.
The history is available for all that look for it, a lot of people don’t look for it
Shapel's story is like me and anime. When I was growing up, predominantly black country, where I lived didn't have much anime fans. Like if I go to school might be a few but like maybe ten who were opened about it. It was better if you stated that you like punk music than anime. That too was still stigmatized but more acceptable. It was worse in university. Stated it to a couple of people throughout whenever they asked about my hobbies and interests. Once in a group setting and this happened. One person declared that anime was for children. Luckily, another fan was in the group and defended the idea that anyone can watch it. Made a friend that day too. And so befriended the other as he too agreed anyone could watch it. Funny enough became friends more with the disbelief person as I lost touch with the anime fan. He still not really a fan of it though. So his mind was not changed. But accepted the idea as such. We talked on and off for years now. Now, I see it much more talked about more openly as even my siblings are into it but there is some stigma about it though.
My mom is hard core religious, like she forced me into Vietnamese church school for 8 years until we moved states. I prayed to god every single day, recited things in Vietnamese that I didn’t even understand and went to church every Sunday , praying for my autistic brother to talk one day. Then I realized my brother would never talk and I was devastated. I believed in a false god and I never prayed again.
Do Gods Bleed?
That seems like a childish perspective... I'm not religious at all, just seems odd to disown ur God or drop ur beliefs bc u don't get the answer u want. It seems to be a constant with flimsy beliefs, when something good happens they never thx God, they call it hard work, luck or thx others, but the second they have some hardship the 1st thing they do is blame God.
@Allen silva I was thinking the same thing. That's it? Yooooo those dudes know how to brainwash you lol.
Lol! I think I kind of get what Bart is saying. People automatically think a guy is a shitty human being if he hits a woman but maybe if we looked deeper into the situation he may have been pushed to his limits and acted out of character in that split second.
There is a video clip on CZcams of Lemmy from Motorhead reading fan mails, and one of them was from a black kid about advice for him dealing with other black people telling him to stop listening to hard rock and heavy metal. Shapel needs to watch that, powerful message.
First video for me from y'all.
Incredibly relatable video. I like how open and relax the conversation is with very little controversy on controversial subject's for most.
Excited to watch more!
Lmao barts take…was holding my breathe for him the whole time.
People. Family, friends, people on general
Damn, babe. Why is there so many of us?
Holy shit Shapel’s right arm is so much bigger than his left 😂😂
Shapel is awesome. Just a natural fit! Like him, I also have an identity crisis with my music. I only tend to listen to a artists, who happen to be white (pop-punk). I justify it because I just really like the music. Not everything has to be racial.
this vid made me search and watch that bus driver upper cut video again, so satifying lol!
i used to not believe in marriage bc i thought they’ll all end anyways. then i found love lol
Small wedding…….big ring just in case……
Good luck on your romantic endeavors.
Congrats Liz!!!
I like Shapel. He is a good guest.
Man, Bart was really speaking his truth
Joe: if u don't go to church on Sunday you're going to hell!
Also joe: I was 7th day Adventist (known for church on Saturday)
I love Bart, he always does a 180
I loooooove these prompts lately
Men 100% have the right to defend themselves when attacked by a woman imo, it's crazy that it's frowned upon
He's GREAT he should be on more!
Bart said hands rated E for everyone 😂
I'm crying laughing omfg I had to stop doing my hair😂
Never can get enough of this!!!
Not Ryan with the e40 reference😂😂
Honestly best episode ever
Yo I’m a huge fan of y’all! But y’all got Christianity twisted! If you’d like to have a convo about it, I’d be totally open
So true. They got christianity all wrong. They were taught by the wrong people.
Hell yeah Im with Bart!... Oh that took a turn. Whoa! Anthony bro made it too real. 🤣🤣
" We can run this fade right now ! "
Favourite JK off the record episode , come back to it every once in while😅
Lacy cool af I really liked when he was on bad friends
When I saw this thumbnail I taught this was Josh coming back like Julia and Geo. And now sad.
There were two reasons for me to stop believing in Christianity. One, was the statement, don't you believe in the Bible. In Jesus' time, the everyday person did not have a Bible (maybe for religious leaders). They used scrolls because the printing press was not invented yet. Two, the clincher, Jesus lied which he was supposed to not be able to. All the miracles he performed, he said everybody would be able to do it. My favorite was changing water into wine. He even said that they would do more different types of miracles than he even performed. Remember, his miracles were instantaneous. In the last 2,000 years, how many people were able to do the things that Jesus did? The only thing they (organized religions) are able to do now is to miraculously pull money from our pockets.
1) The people at that time did not have the Bible . But they had Jesus walking amongst them in the flesh.
2) Miracles still happen today. People's heart being changed from darkness to light. For example there are a lot of testimonies of people addicted to drugs accepting Jesus into their lives and after that being changed. This is the true miracle. People with no hope and purpose being changed into people with a higher purpose. People that were '''dead'' raised up from ''death' into life.
Exorcism have been performed. There are documented exorcisms that you can look into.
A lot of miracles in wartime have happened aswell , for example the Battle of Antioch 1098 AD.
Luke 11:29
And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
Literally lmao'd the entire time
@ 4:11 you ain't seeing her going into the diner and shit, meanwhile Tiana with her diner job 👁👄👁
After seeing this episode I really wanna see a lineup of Nick and Jason on table 1 (the Taiwanese deflectors), Anthony and Ryan on table 2 (the dancers), and Joe, Steve, and Bart (the 3 stooges)
Bart now sees a woman get hit and says damn that's crazy and goes Abt his day basically 😭
I’m high af rn dying at this episode 🤣
Crying laughing at this episode! 🤣
I've seen Shapell do standup like a month or 2 ago in West Hollywood; the guy is funny af.
The more we grow the more we have to walk the path alone and only love we get is our family and sometimes friends. Love is the biggest gamble, bigger than a career or any investment as our emotions, intelligence and time is far important than money itself.
With domestic abuse towards men, there’s always another way… men always want to talk about how ‘biologically stronger’ they are then women then want to say it should be equal grounds to hit chicks? In a domestic abuse situation where a guy is being hit by a woman, while there are many mental health factors that stop people from getting help, including societal norms, the best way is to always leave or be defensive and block a hit rather than hit back. Domestic abuse either way is never okay and men hitting women isn’t okay. Women die everyday at the hands of men and it’s tragic.
I know this show is for comedy but that was seriously Bart’s take on violence…
I relate to joes story, used to be religious til the religious folks around me couldn’t answer the questions I had to my satisfaction. Im a man of science now. I think about it like a really big puzzle with a handful of missing pieces here and there. Like we’ll probably never have the full picture… however given enough time we can still make something beautiful if we put enough of the right pieces together. We made something pretty so far but nonetheless there’s still more to be rearranged.
What questions did you have that weren't answered? You can be a man of science and still believe. You act as if you have to pick one or the other no? The early scientists were christians and jews , do you not know this?
@@Bhaxs I’m well aware of that however I am picking one and sticking to one. The way how I understand the universe religion was used to give answers to questions people asked. How was I made? How was earth made? How should we live our lives?” “What’s good? What’s bad? What’s right? What’s wrong? Why does it rain? How does rain happen? Etc etc etc back then god answered all that. Now we know that was never the case at all we know why/how things happen. Earth is not 6,000 years old it’s 4.5 billion years old, it doesn’t rain because this god or that god is blessing us it rains because of the water cycle. We were not made by some divine being were a species of great ape that has history going back millions of years etc. I hold no ill will towards those that believe differently. But me myself I choose one because one has to many inconsistencies for my liking and the other has evidence quite literally in all places. Written in our dna and in the ground itself.
@@JonathanAlexanderM You are right brother, religion is made by men. But the connection between God and yourself is a relationship, it has nothing to do with science . Science is always changing.
You are picking one and sticking to one? Why? The questions you ask , will science answer them? Science does not teach morality.
As for your ''scientific' objections.
1) You tell me earth is 4.5 billion years old, not 6000 years old. This is all based on speculation and assumptions. Radiometric Carbon dating is fallible because it relies on assumptions. You for example don't know the starting amount of C-14. It also assumes that the ratio of 14C to 12C has always been the same in the atmosphere as it is today.
If the assumptions are accepted as true then the results of these tests can be biased towards a desired age.
So you telling me the earth is 4.5 billion or 3 million or 6000. How can you know for sure?
2) Ape ancestry theory . The only historical evidence that can support this are fossils. Unfortunately the fossil record of man and ape is very sparse. Approx 95% of known fossils are marine invertebrates. 4.7 percent are algea and plants 0.2 percent are insects and other invertebrates. The remaining 0.1 percent are vertebrates (humans , apes , monkeys , lemurs). Very limited amount of fossils that we can use to research . There are 3 ways to make an '''apeman'' 1) Combine ape fossils and human fossils and act like they are of the same ''apeman'' . 2) Emphasize certain humanlike qualities of fossilized ape bones, and with imagination upgrade apes to be more humanlike . 3) Emphasize certain apelike qualities of fossilized human bones, and with imagination downgrade humans to become more apelike. In the end you are just assuming on appearance.
You talk about DNA. Do you know how much information is stored inside of you? Our brains are better then the most advanced supercomputer. The eye itself is a magnificent camera it can detect over 10 million color hues.
Do you think we are here randomly? That we evolved from apes? There was a big bang but not a big banger?
@@JonathanAlexanderM I get from the way you answer as if you were substituting religion with another religion which is scientism, treating science as something that must take the place of religion, that can never be the case. Regarding questions normally science answers the how, there can be some exceptions but as a general rule is like that, and philosophy and ultimately religion focuses on the why, the purpose. Science can never answer a purpose question because it's not what's made for. A pure materialistic point of view can never give answers regarding final causes, because it denies them, also regarding good and evil it's denied by this position.
lol you guys are awesome
Bart is right equality- anyone and everyone can get it
I agree completely I always thought it was kind of weird if you needed a book like the bible to be a good person so what does that mean if you didn't have it you'd be a bad person It just don't make any sense
I had a youth leader pull me aside one day to lecture me on how "shut up" is a bad word and I could be punished by God. Religious institutions are insane
I love these videos!
Its Warren Jeffs
I feel like chapel and boze would get along so much
The angle on religion was just whack... first of all, they came out of cults. If only they had the real thing. Regular Christianity does not involve drugs. The serious parts are still real though. You still needa repent of your sins 'coz one day, you gonna stand before God. You can do what you need to do in life, but having a relationship with God is the most important thing you need.
Imagine this being your first JKNEWS video Lmaoo
LDS scares me
W/ barts idea… I mean, I get it. If a woman “acts” like a man? She’ll be treated like one & get one in the face. All the AH’s?! Don’t do that shit! A man, no matter his size, at full force, will fk us up. I’m telling u. They’re built different.
Next time Ryan should go first with the questions… he stay under the radar lol
yes shapel im in the same boat with the being black story im more “white” than “black” according to ppl out here but what does that even mean? why do i have to be a colour why can’t i jus be me?
Barts on the wrong side idk how I feel about this I DONT LIKE CHANGE!!
Like imaging being one of those ppl actually think they're being for real 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I knew Shapel's familiar. He's in The Maine's MV.
It's Warren Jeff , Church of Ladder-Day Saints (LDS) polygamous. Gentleman I really enjoyed 😉 this chat.
Imagine OJ Simpson sees this video he’ll be like i’m not alone 😂
Yeah thats f'd up about being black but liking other music outside that race
Ritesh coming back on
Didn’t Anthony believe dancing was for women until he got into it in college?
I’m from Waco
Damn Shapel is darker than Kevonstage and Tahir. Anyway yall think they gonna come back to the show?
Y’all are my role models..
NOT SO CAREFUL BOYZ THIS TIME 😂
BASED BART
Was on a call with my gf and she told me to watch this XD
Ohhh Bart lol
I am fucking bing watching this shit. 😂
You wear sandels homie, who are you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe you didn’t get answers because it wasn’t the true church
PSA❗ get a water distiller (spread the message)
I used to study with the Jehovah’s Witness until I was 5 but no mas. Thank god I’m an atheist.
Got that turnstile merch 👀👀👀
Growing up in la it still wasn’t cool to be a black punk doe
Professional wrestling.
Yo Steve's clothes acting like a bounce card
It’s lil dicky Westbrook on a farm
Great🤣
Turnstile!! 🫶
😅😂😂😂
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