Sonic Adventure 2 - A Postmodern Analysis

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    Disclaimer: I know “postmodern” is often an unhelpful term and Derrida himself never labeled himself or his work “postmodern”. Even just labeling the analysis "post-structuralist” would’ve been better in terms of accuracy, but all I wanted is a catchy title. (Also maybe the title will get me more views because of the commotion about postmodernism that Jordan Peterson caused.)
    Sources:
    On Derrida:
    www.iep.utm.edu/derrida/
    Colebrook, C. (2015) “Jacques Derrida: Key Concepts”, Routledge
    On Baudrillard:
    Kellner, D. (1989) “Jean Baudrillard: From Marxism to Postmodernism and Beyond”, Polity Press
    On Sonic:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_A...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_...
    sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_th...
    sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_Eme...
    sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian_...
    sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Biolizard
    I'd like to thank Blazethecat310 and TheRealSonicFan for their Sonic Adventure 2 footage.

Komentáře • 569

  • @Scawking
    @Scawking Před 6 lety +699

    This is what Sonic meant when he said "live and learn"

  • @blackattack1840
    @blackattack1840 Před 6 lety +821

    this is the exact shit I try to pull when teachers gave me creative freedom with essays and presentations. Masterfully done.

    • @michaelobrienbritton1823
      @michaelobrienbritton1823 Před 4 lety +64

      As an English teacher, you have no idea how happy reading something like this would make me.

  • @peterarsenault6010
    @peterarsenault6010 Před 6 lety +1462

    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Sonic Adventure 2. The dialectics are extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical postmodernism most of the levels will go over a typical player's head. There's also Shadow's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Derrida's Deconstructionist literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these characters, to realise that they're not just entertaining- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Sonic Adventure 2 truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Sonic's existential catchphrase "Gotta Go Fast," which itself is a cryptic reference to Sarte's epic Being and Nothingness. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Shiro Maekawa's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
    And yes, by the way, i DO have a Sonichu tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎

    • @richardsejour7731
      @richardsejour7731 Před 6 lety +43

      All he did was juxtapose the differences between Sonic and Shadow and provided a brief summary of the SA2 plot in context to binaries, which is the fundamental principles proposed by Derrida. Keep in mind that the binary aspects of postmodernism has since been revised substantially since binaries tend to obfuscate the intricacies involved in power balance operations by attributing every misdeed to one source. There is nothing profound being stated here. Postmodernism can be applied to virtually any modern piece of media.

    • @aragorn.kommer
      @aragorn.kommer Před 6 lety +51

      Peter Arsenault Thou should recive the CZcams Oscar for best comment

    • @Nick-jd1kp
      @Nick-jd1kp Před 6 lety +16

      Your comment was most humerus, three cheers.

    • @user-rp3jt4ik2l
      @user-rp3jt4ik2l Před 5 lety +2

      Peter Arsenault rr

    • @allegoricalstatue
      @allegoricalstatue Před 5 lety +10

      Oh my god that was gold. Can I see your deviantart page?

  • @heehokuzunoha7757
    @heehokuzunoha7757 Před 6 lety +436

    God bless philosophy majors

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier Před 5 lety +11

      "bless their hearts" is more like it ;)

    • @Liliquan
      @Liliquan Před 3 lety +9

      Bless their banks is more like it.

  • @UltimateKyuubiFox
    @UltimateKyuubiFox Před 6 lety +812

    Click on video expecting a meme > Discover a very well-structures analysis
    Scroll down to comments expecting acknowledgement of this unexpectedness > Find continued genuine discussion of the philosophy referenced in the video
    This might be the greatest place on the Internet.

    • @vladandnobody
      @vladandnobody Před 5 lety +5

      UltimateKyuubiFox yes

    • @ecbrd8478
      @ecbrd8478 Před 4 lety +9

      Am I like, past the meme part yet? I just... I can't take this philosophical analysis seriously with Live and Learn playing in the background.

    • @seymourtompkins
      @seymourtompkins Před 8 měsíci

      YT is the greatest place on the interwebs

  • @gensoumusic2145
    @gensoumusic2145 Před 6 lety +381

    "the sonic equivalent of aids" lol wut

    • @christopherdavidson8028
      @christopherdavidson8028 Před 6 lety +84

      NIDS: Neuro-Immunodeficiency Syndrome. RIP MARIA ROBOTNIK

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker Před 6 lety +25

      Except that NIDS also destroys the nervous system of the victim in addition to disabling their immune system.

    • @Scawking
      @Scawking Před 6 lety +78

      That's what she gets for fucking that hedgehog

    • @BiolizardBoils
      @BiolizardBoils Před 5 lety +15

      @Cipher *NO*

    • @RoyalKnightVIII
      @RoyalKnightVIII Před 5 lety +3

      It's a totally Canon disease in the Sonic games and comics
      Here's one of the many characters affected by N.I.D.S. Buns Rabbot aka Anti Bunnie
      archiesonic.fandom.com/wiki/Buns_Rabbot

  • @tehlazyprop
    @tehlazyprop Před 6 lety +478

    "Maria's death was caused by the thought of a death that never in fact happened." I call this phenomenon "Anikin, you're breaking my heart" Syndrome.

    • @miguelcondadoolivar5149
      @miguelcondadoolivar5149 Před 6 lety +29

      Shankspeare Wasn't it called sand-sickness?

    • @r_bear
      @r_bear Před 5 lety +11

      @@miguelcondadoolivar5149 I hate sand.

    • @7kurisu
      @7kurisu Před 4 lety +7

      love wont save you, padme. only my new powers can do that!

    • @ethanhinton4549
      @ethanhinton4549 Před 4 lety

      Uh, it's very heavily implied the got shot by gun.

    • @rasnauf
      @rasnauf Před 3 lety +6

      It’s appropriate because the Jedi are motivated by general responsibility, whereas the sith are corrupted by absolute responsibility which snowballs over time into a lust for power. This is the central premise of the major religions, however it must be noted that the Jedis’ solution is hardly ideal, nor is the ontology of Star Wars consistent with our reality.

  • @mesastreatexit
    @mesastreatexit Před 5 lety +92

    omg the fade from Abraham to Robotnik's face in the same position is incredible

  • @Catmomila
    @Catmomila Před 6 lety +304

    Wtf i love post modernism now

  • @DeadEndFrog
    @DeadEndFrog Před 6 lety +393

    this is probably the best video on the subject, especially because its about sonic, and sonic is *obviously* not privlaged as a philosopic text in the eyes of philosophers therby commiting the problem in the video privlageing *high culture* over *low culture*
    I hope this makes sense! Im sure this is intentional, very nice work!

  • @STBill
    @STBill Před 6 lety +345

    _"Sometimes there's a need to do what's needed."_ Shadow the Edgehog.

  • @CB-qg3yh
    @CB-qg3yh Před 6 lety +377

    I was expecting a silly video about Sonic Adventure 2. What I got was a deconstruction of life

  • @FlameQwert
    @FlameQwert Před 6 lety +774

    This is unironically good. People will call it dumb or whatever, but the proper analysis of video games, the newest art form. within a coherent framework, is exactly the kind of thing that video games need if we want to break free from the formless, derivative stories and experiences that the video game art form has been trapped inside for decades.

    • @jonasceikaCCK
      @jonasceikaCCK  Před 6 lety +166

      I agree! Although for this video I mostly just wanted to introduce certain concepts by Derrida using a pop culture example, I will make more philosophical analyses in the future of either specific video games or video games as a medium in general

    • @stayphrosty
      @stayphrosty Před 6 lety +8

      How might a philosophical analysis of a multiplayer game differ from a more narrative driven single player experience like sonic?

    • @Saktoth
      @Saktoth Před 6 lety +35

      Chess represents the binary opposition of white and black, with the black serving as secondary or 'subservient' to white in a binary that mirrors racial classification, with the sides nominally identical and equal but black being subtly and necessarily inferior. This takes place within a symbolic psuedo-monarchic fuedalism. Though the feminine in the piece of the queen is afforded the most powerful and dynamic moves, affirming the strength and vitality of the feminine, the masculine King is the most valuable piece, affirming the rightness of the persistence of the patriarchal structure, despite the relative uselessness of he King. The pawns, interchangeable and vaguely unthreateningly phallic figures, are treated as entirely disposable, expressing through the actions of the player themselves the casual disregard for the oppressed under serfdom that was a hallmark of the era represented.
      ...I guess the author truly is dead... >_>

    • @paulwebb2078
      @paulwebb2078 Před 6 lety +3

      stayphrosty It depends on how the gameplay integrates with the story, and if a story exists at all. In this case, the video focused only on the story of Sonic Adventure 2 and not the gameplay, so I guess if he were to analyze a multiplayer game it wouldn't look much different.

    • @niklaswesslander8505
      @niklaswesslander8505 Před 6 lety +1

      Do it one league of legends. Is it even possible? Don't know but sure I would love to here it.

  • @lydiasteinebendiksen4269
    @lydiasteinebendiksen4269 Před 3 lety +27

    Seeing a picture of Baudrillard with live and learn over does something for me. It's so beautiful.

    • @lydiasteinebendiksen4269
      @lydiasteinebendiksen4269 Před 3 lety

      And then following that with a sami runebomme and other tribal imagry just tops it off, omg

  • @rallyupmankind
    @rallyupmankind Před 6 lety +53

    This is a great essay, it is extremely weird to hear someone break down Baudrillard while the butt-rock of Sonic 2 plays in the background though.

  • @magnuskarlsson8655
    @magnuskarlsson8655 Před 6 lety +99

    Great video. I just have one small criticism. For Derrida there's no such distinction between general and absolute responsibility. One can't be absolute responsible to the other, because there are always other others. Discrimination is irreducible, this is what Derrida calls arche-violence which follows from the unconditional coming of time, from the infinite finitude of différance. This means that the possibility of being responsible is at the same time the impossibility of being fully responsible. If one could be fully or absolute responsible then this would presuppose the existence of a fixed essence or identity, of a self-sufficient monad or substance, an argument that you rightly criticized in your video. Instead, as you correctly pointed out, Derrida proposes an hauntology (in contrast to ontology which is grounded on the principle of noncontradiction, on the metaphysical logic of identity, inherent to what Derrida called logocentrism, and instead develops a deconstructive logic of identity) which implies the constitutive undecidability of alterity that follows from the spacing of time, that is, from the impossibility of being in itself. Everything is essentially dependent on what is other than itself, and it's precisely this out-of-jointness of time which gives life or reality its ghostly presence, a presence which is precisely not present.

    • @jonasceikaCCK
      @jonasceikaCCK  Před 6 lety +52

      Thank you for pointing this out. I just re-read my source and saw how I had misread it, thank you, I appreciate it!

  • @mikaelsanchez6426
    @mikaelsanchez6426 Před 4 lety +15

    I love the cross fade from abraham's face to robotnik's face. Absolute art

  • @kirbyofthestars2269
    @kirbyofthestars2269 Před 6 lety +86

    Your channel name, along with the game chosen and how seriously the dynamic of binaries is applied to it, has me wondering if this is a troll channel. Your actual knowledge coupled with the dryness of your delivery are the ingredients for the sarcasm of the gods.

    • @housemouseshorts
      @housemouseshorts Před 5 lety +1

      Its most certenly a new wave alt right channel that shits on gamers due to that one time jorden peterson said gamers are beta male cucks. Or something to that effect.

    • @jaqu9001
      @jaqu9001 Před 5 lety +37

      @@housemouseshorts can't tell if you're memeing but he's generally pretty left wing

    • @BrightWhiteRabbit
      @BrightWhiteRabbit Před 5 lety +1

      I thought alt right has been trying to recruit all the anti-social gamer stereotypes

    • @housemouseshorts
      @housemouseshorts Před 5 lety +2

      No not really,take a look at any "alpha male" channel. those channels tend to be tied to alt right ideology. They absolutely SHIT on men who play video games. Often With statements taken right from Jorden Petersons speachs "Don't think because you have mastered a worthless game you have mastered life" "You are good at playing children's toys but are you any good at life" "Gamers are incels" "violent incels are gamers" Trump tryed to bring back the violent video game hystaria of the 90s,within months of takeing office. The alt right absolutely hates gamers. Any gamers they recruit are pawns. @@BrightWhiteRabbit

    • @user-vs6oe8fl3m
      @user-vs6oe8fl3m Před 5 lety +2

      @@housemouseshorts Do you still think that now?

  • @BigGeekEmpire
    @BigGeekEmpire Před 6 lety +54

    As i'm watching this and getting deeper into it I'm like this guy can't be serious. Then I saw the name of the channel and laughed my ass off. This is all genius.

  • @kingofthebis1068
    @kingofthebis1068 Před 6 lety +85

    This is the content I subbed for
    “Awwwww yeah this is happening!!!”

  • @Skiz0id
    @Skiz0id Před 4 lety +6

    I always figured the references to "My analysis of Sonic Adventure 2" was a bit you were doing. But holy shit you actually did it.

  • @theprevailingorthodoxy7417
    @theprevailingorthodoxy7417 Před 6 lety +75

    This channel should be way bigger! Great stuff!

  • @sonaliano
    @sonaliano Před 6 lety +59

    I randomly clicked on this channel and found this video, just happens to be my favourite game

  • @Vekstar
    @Vekstar Před 3 lety +25

    This video was my rabbit hole into becoming a leftist. Thank you CCK philosophy you are one of my favorite CZcams's.

  • @kokujinblack77
    @kokujinblack77 Před 6 lety +12

    almost cried near the end dude, don't know why but you explaining binaries with the story somehow moved me, almost to tears.

  • @sonic1602
    @sonic1602 Před 6 lety +5

    An astonishingly involving listen, simultaneously more serious and satirical in its sincerity (and yet still utterly sincere) than one would have thought going in. I don't fancy myself a learned philosopher myself, but my personal introduction to Derrida's works was through what I've come to refer to as the "Memetics Monologue" from the metafiction titled "Detective Pony" by Sonnetstuck. That story focused almost entirely on Plato's Pharmacy and its statements regarding how it pertains to modern memetics, so it's interesting to see other bits of Derrida's work.

  • @cosmicsans67
    @cosmicsans67 Před 6 lety +9

    My lit analysis teacher always tells us "You give something it's meaning" I always knew there was something in Shadows story but I didn't have the research to know what it was. This is an amazing video, thank you

  • @KingoftheJuice18
    @KingoftheJuice18 Před 6 lety +210

    It's hard to see how this mode of deconstruction is not self-defeating. At the end of the video you say that binaries can be rearranged into "new and perhaps better systems." But "there you go again" setting up "binaries" such as new/old and better/worse. If there are no stable structures of meaning, purpose, and value, then there is also no stable rationale or motive to "deconstruct" (or not deconstruct)....Your thoughts?

    • @jonasceikaCCK
      @jonasceikaCCK  Před 6 lety +188

      You're right in a certain sense. Deconstruction cannot be an end-in-itself because it's impossible to ALWAYS be deconstructive if we want to function in the world. However, precisely because deconstruction gives us no inherent goals or positive guides to action, it can be subordinated to higher ethical demands, which is why Derrida spent a lot of time talking about notions like responsibility, hospitality and forgiveness in his later works. Now, of course, these ethical notions themselves can be subject to deconstruction, and so the best we can do is remain open to changes in the binaries we use and acknowledge that it never forms a closed system

    • @KingoftheJuice18
      @KingoftheJuice18 Před 6 lety +45

      Thanks for your reply! If the end result of his inquiry is to say that all virtues, values, and principles exist in a kind of creative tension with other virtues, values, and principles (e.g., "There's a time for war and a time for peace" --Ecclesiastes 3), then this seems eminently reasonable. What appears to be less so is if people take the next step of suggesting that since anything can be deconstructed, therefore there's no such thing as discernible truth, ethical or otherwise. But I agree that we should always live in a state of ethical-intellectual openness, as opposed to a sealed-off, dogmatic, unreflective closedness.

    • @georgedarkrender388
      @georgedarkrender388 Před 6 lety +3

      I'll sign onto Deconstructionism, what is it we're going to deconstruct?

    • @KingoftheJuice18
      @KingoftheJuice18 Před 6 lety +14

      Deconstructionism is the scientific method applied to philosophy? How so? About what does Deconstructionism hypothesize, make predictions, and then test out empirically to reach reproducible results?

    • @plasmabat718
      @plasmabat718 Před 6 lety +2

      Well I suppose I meant more as in that the scientific method is about constantly getting a better understanding of the world through being critical of our current understanding of it, and then examining our understanding and seeing if there's evidence to support it.
      I think the aim of deconstruction is to better understand the world and to see if some of our current assumptions are wrong. You hypothesize that, for example,. morality is objective, and then predict that it will be, and then use all possible evidence to see if it holds up.

  • @smokelife6315
    @smokelife6315 Před 3 lety +4

    Sonic Adventure 2 Battle is my favorite game of all time. The music the dialogue, the stages , the story.
    The ending of couse was shocking and emotional with the final shot of the blue planet.
    Its regarded as the most memorable game on par with Sonic 3. Sonic 3 makes me tear up at the end. The music and imagery is truly beautiful. Powerful childhood nostalgia.
    I never thought I'd see a philosophical analysis of this.
    It just made it that much more meaningful to me.

  • @michaelmahoney5677
    @michaelmahoney5677 Před 6 lety +30

    Ya know what, I could make an entire video just on how SA2 explores the natural/artificial binary. Sonic and Shadow alone exemplify this, as you pointed out in the video. The stark contrast in level designs, such as green forest vs. weapons bed (just to name one example) could also be used to make this point. I could make a pretty convincing argument that the SA2 devs were on some real postmodern discourse with this "evidence".
    Your cherry-picking was phenomenal. You set out to apply postmodern analysis to a dumb (great, but dumb) video game and you did so brilliantly. This simultaneously validates the need for serious analysis of video games and exposes common flaws in literary analysis. Whether you meant to or not doesn't matter. As I said, you did precisely what you set out to do. Bravo.

  • @cad4922
    @cad4922 Před 5 lety

    I'm very glad that there are still good channels on CZcams like this, watching this video just put a big smile on my face. Please keep making videos. Great work and congratulations on the 50k subs...

  • @R0DisG0D
    @R0DisG0D Před 6 lety +13

    Interesting video as an introduction to deconstruction. I've been meaning to read Derrida for quite some time now. I've only recently gotten into philosophy from a Frankfurt School perspective. As someone currently reading Habermas, I know that their philosophies fundamentally clashed, so I'm eager to get to know the other side of the coin.
    It might also help to evaluate the differences between Adorno and Habermas, I'm not yet certain wich one of the two has the better case.

  • @Razsteroid
    @Razsteroid Před 6 lety +17

    This becomes very Hegelian near the end. Was postmodernism the first wave of remix culture?

    • @kategrant2728
      @kategrant2728 Před 5 lety +16

      In all seriousness yes. They understood remix culture was coming before we had the technology.

  • @qhotdog9343
    @qhotdog9343 Před 5 lety +3

    I've never seen any of your videos before, but an analysis of Baudrillard's death binary while the Sonic Adventure 2 soundtrack plays in the background must be what having a stroke feels like

  • @Bacchus8699
    @Bacchus8699 Před 5 lety +1

    Finally a Sonic video that analyzes the plots and themes properly. It's not the typical Sonic video where some guy just sits down and insults Sonic 24/7 using outdated memes that aren't even funny. Please do more of these actually this was a very well done video. You should actually analyze future Sonic titles like Sonic Battle, Storybook Games, Shadow, and etc. Even other gaming series too like Final Fantasy or whatnot, I'd love to see what other stuff you can analyze! :)

  • @DeathTheAura
    @DeathTheAura Před 6 lety +4

    1:56 fucking hilarious, hearing this philosophical analysis just to segway int: IN SONIC ADVENTURE TWO

  • @DensetsuVII
    @DensetsuVII Před 6 lety

    A fascinating interpretation. Small editing note that the sections of pure black feel distracting but other than that, well thought out and thought provoking work. Subscribed good sir! Well done!

  • @BlueSeraph89
    @BlueSeraph89 Před 6 lety +7

    How does this not have more views?
    This is so insightful!

  • @JonjonTV
    @JonjonTV Před 4 lety +2

    It's interesting to see a video done on this, i was actually thinking myself about the archetypal structure that Sonic Adventure has built up as well.
    I was surprised that you didn't go into the heaven and hell aspect more since the Chao aspect of the game is such a huge part of SA2B. You could raise Chao's to be good or bad, and some to have halos by giving them love and nurturing them properly. But if you wanted a hell like baby, which eventually turns dark after a while of mistreatment, you could possibly achieve that by throwing them around, not feeding them much. Or Change them the way they are by feeding them certain foods. So it also plays part because it shows you sort of the root, or foreshadows reasons why shadow is the color he is. He most likely came from a dark place. Raised differently and wasn't nurtured like the brighter color chaos. That honestly can be a video on its own though since it's not storyline i suppose.
    Cool analysis though!

  • @RoyalKnightVIII
    @RoyalKnightVIII Před 6 lety +31

    What a Way Past Structuralist analysis. Yeah!

  • @Jammyman998
    @Jammyman998 Před 6 lety +30

    I always found Shadow to be a fascinating character. Robotnik is far from your straightforward villain too. You don't need 4K graphics to tell a compelling story in computer games...

    • @videotape2959
      @videotape2959 Před 2 lety

      What does 4k graphics even mean.

    • @Jammyman998
      @Jammyman998 Před 2 lety

      @@videotape2959 4K resolution refers to a horizontal display resolution of approximately 4,000 pixels.[1] Digital television and digital cinematography commonly use several different 4K resolutions. In television and consumer media, 3840 × 2160 (4K UHD) is the dominant 4K standard, whereas the movie projection industry uses 4096 × 2160 (DCI 4K).

  • @milascave2
    @milascave2 Před 6 lety +15

    Indeed, spectrums are a much more useful way of looking at the world than binaries. That is what Nietzsche originally meant when he wrote: "beyond good and evil." The post-modernists are just taking it steps further.

    • @Saktoth
      @Saktoth Před 6 lety +5

      How are they taking it further? This kind of analysis of binaries is a favourite thing of post-structuralist and post-modernist thought and it frequently succeeds only to boil something complex down into polar opposites, which as you rightly say, is more like a series of spectrum, ones which do not even have binary ends but are more multi-polar. This kind of thinking strips the world of nuance, which you would think would make it easier to understand, but being easy to understand is not something post-structuralism is known for.

    • @iosefka7774
      @iosefka7774 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Saktoth Do you think Derrida invented these binaries? What are you even saying?

  • @MrMysterious420
    @MrMysterious420 Před 6 lety +3

    I like that you call him Robotnik and not Eggman

  • @stonecutter1217
    @stonecutter1217 Před 6 lety +1

    Incredible work. I love Sonic Adventures 2 as a child. But now as an adult, and a filmmaker, this deconstruction is very important to me. Great work and I hope to see more

  • @travcollier
    @travcollier Před 5 lety

    Not remotely the only way to analyze / understand the story, but an interesting approach and illustrative example of the particular deconstruction method. Worth a like.

  • @danielbelkin4652
    @danielbelkin4652 Před 6 lety +8

    I just wanted to say that I love you please never stop.

  • @elipticalecliptic481
    @elipticalecliptic481 Před rokem +1

    I'n actually mad that you got me genuinely invested in a philosophical analysis of SA2
    like I hate that it makes sense

  • @playah71
    @playah71 Před rokem +1

    Was
    Not expecting such philosophical breakdown well done to one of my favorite games if not my favorite

  • @justinvelez759
    @justinvelez759 Před 4 lety +4

    The Abraham/Robotonik transition made me a postmodernist

  • @abundantchemical6335
    @abundantchemical6335 Před 3 lety +2

    I almost put this in my favorites playlist but I chose to put it in the one for LSD instead.

  • @avshalomsagi9921
    @avshalomsagi9921 Před rokem +4

    The ultimate CZcams video

  • @18ncarbonara
    @18ncarbonara Před 5 lety

    The fact that this video exists and achieves such great quality is a testament to your intelligence and creativity.
    Also 10/10 meme lol keep doing you my dude

  • @theticknarthur
    @theticknarthur Před 6 lety +7

    Great application of analysis. Would it be too absurd or boring to do a series of philosophies applied to a single piece of media? Showcase how anything can be warped to fit a person's chosen perception and then illustrate how people choose their methods of perceptions to fit each individual's chosen beliefs. Or highlight the fallacies of altering personal perceptions and beliefs. Perhaps explain how perception is at times objective while still being entirely subjective to sensory apparatus. In any case, please continue.

    • @jonasceikaCCK
      @jonasceikaCCK  Před 6 lety +5

      That's actually a good idea, something I will consider. Thank you!

  • @wetwerd2003
    @wetwerd2003 Před 6 lety +1

    Omg glad i found you. Please keep em coming. Your my peterson for gaming

  • @TheBoing2001
    @TheBoing2001 Před 6 lety +9

    I would dub this analyse "neo-post-modern-ism". Sonic vs Derrida what a mix ! ;-)
    Excellent channel, too seriously cheerful to be ignored

  • @sebastianadellQ
    @sebastianadellQ Před 5 lety

    Thank you for this video and bringing back good old memories of 1 of my favorites games 😊

  • @raccooncollective
    @raccooncollective Před 5 lety

    This is my jam! Thanks for creating this video!

  • @janicea9060
    @janicea9060 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for helping me understand deconstruction practically for my thesis

  • @personmcpersonperson2893

    This is the exact kind of content I want to see. Great video

  • @paulwebb2078
    @paulwebb2078 Před 6 lety +2

    I love this video. Keep doing what you're doing.

  • @mendez704
    @mendez704 Před 5 lety

    Excelent channel. Have you considered doing a video in this direction of KOTOR 2 (knights of the old republic 2, one of the most philosophical games I´ve ever seen)?

  • @katobytes
    @katobytes Před 6 lety +5

    I feel as though this is an April Fool's video that couldn't be completed on time. Nice analysis.

  • @thomasw4422
    @thomasw4422 Před 5 lety +2

    That fade between Abraham and Robotnic... Something deep going on here

  • @MrBazBake
    @MrBazBake Před 5 lety +3

    "The Sonic version of AIDS"... the fug?

  • @jadenasher6290
    @jadenasher6290 Před 6 lety

    What an approach to this video game! Kudos. I'll sub for this.

  • @DarkAngelEU
    @DarkAngelEU Před 3 lety +1

    Isn't this also related to "Hegel's wound", in which he discusses the Fall and the concept of freedom? Because Eggman wanted to save his daughter, he grew away from himself and his wish to save his daughter. If he had stood his ground, and even if his daughter had died, none of this would have happened. He'd still be a genius scientist, non-corrupted, and Shadow wouldn't exist nor this absurd quest for the Emeralds.
    I don't even know if this accurate, I just read it and that "negation of the negation" part just triggered it off in my mind lol

  • @carachance7274
    @carachance7274 Před 6 lety +2

    You're a beast, liked and subbed.

  • @CrowsofAcheron
    @CrowsofAcheron Před 5 lety +2

    You ever notice how Sonic and Shadow have one eyeball with two pupils?

  • @girlswithgames
    @girlswithgames Před 2 lety

    i always come back to this vid. playing the life and learn song is a touch of genius

  • @wenjiazhang5396
    @wenjiazhang5396 Před 5 lety +3

    Pokémon been dialectical since gold/sliver 😂

  • @bruh666
    @bruh666 Před 6 lety

    I love this channel so much, incredibly interesting

  • @Tapahtumahorisontti
    @Tapahtumahorisontti Před 4 lety +2

    Quick sidenote: Humans did not evolve from chimpanzees. Chimpanzees do not predate us, their evolutionary history is as long as that of humans. They are not ancestors, but siblings.

  • @CheckinaCoulibaly
    @CheckinaCoulibaly Před 5 lety +3

    Well done. I like your analysis.

  • @hideyoshilacan66
    @hideyoshilacan66 Před 4 lety +2

    The introduction was amazing

  • @pjmeacham9034
    @pjmeacham9034 Před 6 lety +4

    Yo this shits fire. Do a Foucauldian analysis of GUN tactics xD

  • @knitfine1477
    @knitfine1477 Před 5 lety +7

    Has HBomberguy seen this?

  • @MarbleCellar
    @MarbleCellar Před 6 lety +5

    "my good friend derrida"

    • @somniloguy12
      @somniloguy12 Před 6 lety +2

      Is that a motherfucking Contrapoints reference?

  • @SpiritualitySelfDev
    @SpiritualitySelfDev Před 6 lety +8

    Live and learn coming in at 2 min felt great, but having the music continuously play while you spoke made it very difficult to listen to what you had to say and I almost turned off the video because it was so distracting.
    Just giving constructive criticism because I was immediately pulled in by the first minute, and almost BUT didn't leave because I loved your points :) keep it up!

  • @Catmomila
    @Catmomila Před 6 lety +4

    Why is this so good

  • @regularmoviereviews4119
    @regularmoviereviews4119 Před 6 lety +5

    "In pre-modern societies, the ends of life are given at the beginning of life:
    people do things in their generation so that the same things will continue
    to be done in the next generation. Meaning is immanent in all the ordinary
    customs and practices of existence, since these are inherited from the past,
    and are therefore worth reproducing. The idea is to make the world go not
    forward, only around. In modern societies, the ends of life are not given at
    the beginning of life; they are thought to be created or discovered. The
    reproduction of the customs and practices of the group is no longer the
    chief purpose of existence; the idea is not to repeat, but to change, to move
    the world forward. Meaning is no longer immanent in the practices of
    ordinary life, since those practices are understood by everyone to be
    contingent and time-bound. This is why death, in modern societies, is the
    great taboo, an absurdity, the worst thing one can imagine. For at the close
    of life people cannot look back and know that they have accomplished the
    task set for them at birth. This knowledge always lies up ahead,
    somewhere over history's horizon. Modern societies don't know what will
    count as valuable in the conduct of life in the long run, because they have
    no way of knowing what conduct the long run will find itself in a position
    to respect. The only certain knowledge death comes with is the knowledge
    that the values of one's own time, the values one has tried to live by, are
    expunge-able."

  • @latinobacon
    @latinobacon Před 6 lety +2

    The thought of a death caused a death

  • @THUNDERSTUD
    @THUNDERSTUD Před 6 lety +2

    This is the greatest thing I've ever watched thank God CZcams brought me here

  • @coltongrove8687
    @coltongrove8687 Před 5 lety +1

    DOWN IN PUMPKIN HILL I GOTTA FIND MY LOST PIECE

  • @1337rooster
    @1337rooster Před 6 lety +5

    When your youtube worlds collide

  • @guzzopinc1646
    @guzzopinc1646 Před 6 lety +3

    great video. thanks!

  • @rocket117
    @rocket117 Před 6 lety

    The underlying fact that this is all explained using SA2 MAKES THIS FUCKING HILARIOUS

  • @chompythebeast
    @chompythebeast Před 2 lety

    That crossfade at *8:07* constitutes a true high watermark moment for CZcams as a platform

  • @CTHD13
    @CTHD13 Před 6 lety +5

    This is amazing

  • @chiyo-chanholocaust8143

    Thank you! This is what I've been trying to tell my mom all these years

  • @tonycampbell1424
    @tonycampbell1424 Před 3 lety

    Hi, I'm Hareton Splimby and this is Serious Lore Analysis

  • @zcruzin1
    @zcruzin1 Před 4 lety

    The fact he’s getting this in depth about video game characters is sending me

  • @Enriiiiiii
    @Enriiiiiii Před 2 lety +1

    I love how I fucking forgot this was about sonic adventure 2 for a bit then it just hit me

  • @SlugKingsly
    @SlugKingsly Před 6 lety +1

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall it ever being stated in canon that Shadow is "immortal." He was created to be the "ultimate" lifeform and only survived for 50 years without aging because he was in stasis. I don't mean to be condescending, but overlooking the probability that Shadow is not immortal devalues your analysis. Despite this, I find your views fascinating and hope to see more from you in the future.

    • @user-vs6oe8fl3m
      @user-vs6oe8fl3m Před 5 lety +1

      Slug Kingsly Nah it's stated in these japanese databooks/guides/character profiles

  • @Frahamen
    @Frahamen Před 6 lety +35

    But that's just a philosophy.... A Game Philosophy!

  • @Gamingslave
    @Gamingslave Před 5 lety

    Wait some details you mentioned are not from this game? Were some details in shadow the hedgehog or in the completion of sonic heroes? I didn't compete sonic heroes and never played shadow the hedgehog...

  • @LogicGated
    @LogicGated Před 2 lety

    He's referenced this video many times before, time to finally watch it.

  • @somniloguy12
    @somniloguy12 Před 6 lety +8

    Awesome video but these comments make me want to hop over to the death side of the binairy.

  • @lugus9261
    @lugus9261 Před 6 lety

    This is some good shit
    Only seen two vids but subscribed already.

  • @fierypickles4450
    @fierypickles4450 Před 2 lety

    This man used sonic 2 player battle as an ex to philosphize. I was sold already by your content, but this really solidified it

  • @odb1612
    @odb1612 Před 5 lety +1

    chaos and order, responsibility, good intentions leading to bad outcomes... Peterson is you there?