Inside the Marine Corps' New Recon Sniper Course | Pt. 1
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- For decades, the only way to join the Marines’ proud fraternity of elite snipers was through the grueling Scout Sniper Course. From basic grunts to Recon Marines, the one-size-fits-all introduction to sniper tactics has been a test of mettle for generations.
Now, there is another path. Coffee or Die Magazine followed 10 students as they went through the Corps’ first-ever Reconnaissance Sniper Course. Designed by an elite cadre of Recon instructors, the nine-week course trains Recon Marines in the art of sniping, from basic fundamentals to advanced urban sniper tactics.
If they are successful, they’ll be the first Marines to earn the title 'Recon Sniper'.
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“Probably veg up with some this fucking green shit right here.”
-Marine Corp Recon Sniper and Botany School candidate.
thought he was talking about the vegetable-flavored green crayons
Use vegetation from the foreground. Recammo as you move forward! From head to foot. The one who leads sends stuff backwards. Or your greens will show when you are surrounded by brown!
It is nice to see the Corps evolving their training where the Marines learn valuable skills without being F'd with. Recon is definitely headed in the right direction. Keep crushing it Marines!
You see those Chinese characters on the side the buildings? (12:15) I wonder where they're preparing to fight the next war? =P
@@williamyoung9401 That ain't Chinese, it's Korean
you’ll learn a-lot after 20 years in the middle east
@@Isjwhsuoaisiwiw9idu9akwj same difference
@@cesarcoronel9135 thank God your not in the military
I’m a former Scout Sniper with 2nd Force Recon 69-75 and I’m impressed with the new Recon Sniper Training School. I did mine at Quantico. Oorah! Recon!
thanks for your service do you have any tips for me, When i join the marines i want to be a sniper
@@anthonyhays8137 dont fail your boot camp rifle qual lol
I'm lucky enough to have a very close friend who spent 10 year's in the Marines as a sniper he grew up with my son I taught them how to hunt now that he's home from over seas for the past year he has been teaching me sniping, And it's incredible the amount of knowledge he has and I never realized how much math was involved everything from wind to temp, effects the bullet,he hits a thousand yard target like I hit a hundred yard target,these young men that become snipers are truly the back bone of the military
I would say logistics is the backbone. Snipers are a special tool, hardly the backbone :D
@@ProAverageGuy a good sniper can end a fight with one round
@@patwatson2454 i'm not disputing that, it's a powerfull tool. But hardly the backbone. Don't misunderstand me, i see the sniper as a force multiplier like an MG. But backbone would be something you couldn't do without, like supplies, logistics you know.
@@ProAverageGuy I was going to flame you, but you are right. A scorpion has claws and stinger, but they are all connected to and cannot function without the backbone which is connected to a brain that it cannot function without. It amazes me to see people talking so much about being heroes, but neglecting to mention how often others had to save their lives.
Backbone.
Every Body in the three forces have a role to play. Ser.
This would probably make more marines try out for recon... Smart.
If anything, this will free up school seats for Infantry Marines in the regular Scout Sniper school, that are taken by Recon. From what I hear (two sons in the SS community)
only the 3rd MARDIV is scaling back its Scout Snipers while forming the 3rd Littoral Regiment. The 1st and 2nd MARDIV SS community is just fine (for now) and should be
better off not having to train Recon guys.
Recon is for the Marines, Raiders are for SOCOM. From what I'm hearing and understanding Recon has a hard time keeping and getting new applicants. If Recon had it's own sniper training course then ideally infantry battalions and companies should start sending Infantry Marines to Scout Sniper Training. I'm probably making too much sense so I imagine everything I just said won't happen in the Marines. Unless it's done a complete 180% change from when I EAS in 2003 from Active Duty Infantry.
not worth your time.
Thank you for this comment
@@TheLAGopher it also saves taxpayer money and frees up funds by eliminating redundant courses
i personally think this is a great change, and from what ive heard it used to be hard to get into scout sniper school as a recon marine, normally theyd send you out for some instruction but not the official scout sniper course, sometimes with seals, sometimes with the IDF or australian guys, whereever theres availability, IIRC they used to do this in order to free up slots and make sure recon marines who were pretty much certain to pass these courses didnt have to waste time with basic shit, so they could ensure that those who needed the training got it once before others got it twice, and so the people they trained in the course would actually go on to be scout snipers and be in a scout sniper platoon as opposed to going right back to a recon platoon and maybe getting borrowed once or twice. in all honesty from what ive heard this change simply makes it easier for both qualified recon marines and regular 311s to get sniper training, which is a great thing seeing as long range precision capabilities have saved our countries collective ass hundreds of times over.
9:01 Nice to know that’s Interstate 5 in the background.
I loved that you kept the commentary "we heard that the MC was thinking about doing away with the Sniper community, so we took matters into our own hands". Great production, thanks BRC. HMCS(DV/FPJ/FMF) SARC.
Soi is also getting a longer and better infantry training, interesting how the corps are reinventing their infantry
Yup. Heard heavy weapons plts are going and every devil is going to be trained in heavy in soi. Tanks are gone and the entire Marines are going suppressed after running tests with 3rd Marines. Big changes. Army is being defunded to give more to Air Force and Navy. Interesting times.
They needed to, getting out dated as fuck
The fact that eliminating SS was even considered is troubling.
Generals trying to leave their mark on the Corps
You will see more of this push in the future.
GySgt Carlos Hathcock doesn't deserve this
The fact that the Corps is lead by POGs and REMF, and doesn’t allow for Marines to take initiative is significantly more troubling.
Guarantee it is because of its abbreviation...
This is one of the dopest things I've seen the marine corps do. Makes me wish I stayed in man.
Read the contract. You can be called back. It's a Corporation. You signed.
@@anotherone5926 Once you finish your IRR time you can't be "called back". YOU are the one who needs to read.
@@JesusChrist2000BC True, but that ain't gonna stop them in a WW3 scenario. I am Med Perm Retired With a RE2 code. Been out since 2012, they can still bring my ass back in at some capacity because I am 'Retired".
@@returnfreedom I wouldn't go back even if they tried to pull anything. Plenty of young kids they can draft. Although as woke as they seem they'll probably get slaughtered in WW3.
@@anotherone5926 passed IRR 2 years ago.
Company command: we need to get rid of snippers.
Snipper: so you want us to become more deadly.
Command: not what we said.
Snipper: Roger become more deadly snippers.
Snipers.
@@lesflynn4455 Maybe he was talking about mohels.
Snippers they snip your balls off
@@ianhines2302 HAHA lol
Snippers need a bigger snipper whiffle.
This might sound kinda corny and cliche-like but I remember my days in the corps (3/1 13th and 15th MEU, weapons co.) and this means a lot covering this and explaining to people what these warriors go through. It means more than you would know covering things like this. Thanks a bunch!
Rahhh 3/1 India Co 🤟🏾
the Marine Corps getting rid of Scout Snipers... that's like, the Army getting rid of Rangers, or the Navy getting rid of, say, nuclear qualified Sailors... absurd.
Here is the problem, the scout sniper course is a waste of time for Recon Marines. Recon guys have already proven they can ruck, run, and swim to socom standards. Learn the skills and be tested on the skills to be a HOG and then move on so you can go train with your team and platoon as opposed to dealing with keepers of the badge living in the past knowing that the enemy and the battlefield across africa and the middle east has changed and continues to change every 6 months.
Maybe these new Marine recon snipers will be able to beat the Rangers, the coast guard, or the Colorado National guard at the next sniper competition
@Jaime D ha, no way. I appreciate that Marines lose to them every year. I grew in CO actually
Bro, force recon is every company in a recon BN by QUALIFICATION to go on a MEU and maintain as many capabilities as possible. Bravo Co 24 MEU Force Reconnaissance Detachment. Thats how they title recon units when they go on the MEU. The “force” company, at that time and likely currently, didnt do anything other than do BRC workouts (not designed to make you stronger or increase performance, but to break you), and dick around. While other people in A, B, and C company were actually training and becoming proficient in their skills in shooting, r&s, airborne and amphib ops.
The STA platoon marines that I was around knew most of the same things recon did in terms of hiding in vegetation, but werent super fishy 😂
Glad they're tooling around with new training. I was an 0317 from '06-'12. Wish we had this kind of diversified training in my day.
They had marsoc if you wanted it in 2006. Marsoc got pooped on too by JSOC community and Marine Administration in the hierarchy lol. Every one makes fun of the Marines because its the most hardcore untrained branch. I know its unfair to compare them to all special forces but why would you want to be a grunt Marine when you could go Delta or GB or Seals??? Basic Marines dont even compare. Its not an ego thing its a reality thing. They simply lack the training, thats why if you want to be a war fighter dont be a Marine unless you fully intend to go Recon or Raider if your serious about direct action. Food for thought... Thats why Navy is a lot more appealing to alot of people going to buds or Army Special forces or rangers. Even Airforce PJs and CCTs are trained to rediculously high levels than a grunt Marine. That's why its so laughable when the Marines make fun of Airmen. I have heard it and its so funny because they only wish they joined the Airforce. Air Force wants smart people and is way more funded then Marines. I have a lot of friends in and out of the Corps and they all agree too with what I am saying. "Untrained, badasses". The pilots are probably some of the best Marines I have spoke to in their demeanor and attitude. Im glad to see them pump up their training. Go Recon
@@codykoplin5337your comment is so full of ignorance it hurts
@oz70nyc50 Same man, I was an 0311 from ‘12-‘17 and it was a weird transition from just after Afghan, but not where the Marine Corps is now (which started around ‘18/19 with tactics, platoon sizes, gear, training, empowerment of junior marines, etc…). Hell, fire teams are completely different now. Not to mention 3rd Marines is now a “littoral regiment”, that mission sounds really cool
war isn't really cool man. you should try waking up to reality sometime instead of drinking whatever koolaid you've been sipping. it was never about being gung ho to go kill another human being, it was suppose to be a noble cause of defending loved ones from brutal enemies @@Eirik36
Learn from your history Marines. Every time we stand snipers down (usually after a conflict) we end up hurriedly standing them up again when the next fight comes.
My dad was a regular 0300 infantry marine in Korean War and was pressed into service to be a sniper. Platoon commander gave him a Springfield.03 to mark targets with tracer rounds and of course kill enemy soldiers. USMC had no specialized dedicated snipers at that time
@@TheCerebralDude In WWI they did, that’s why Marines were called “ Devil Dogs”.
@@TheCerebralDude that's bad ass! Awesome dude!
No one is getting rid of snipers so what are you crying about? This video is literally about snipers still in.
@@Mian8v
Didn't I hear someone say they are doing this to not lose the skills?
Marine Corps evolving with the times? Impossible.
Recon is being forced too due to shitty Leadership throughout the Corps. They are weakening it and Recon is trying to create that culture bubble.
There's going to be big changes in Marine Corps Structure
@@BasedAurelius Lmao, well said.
When I was with 3rd Force Recon, each platoon sent volunteers to Scout Sniper School. Same with lots of schools. We cross trained tons of people just to have the capabilities. You could go to schools year round if you wanted.
That's what I'm planning on doing starting off marine then go straight into Marsoc asap do dive school, recon training, airborne training, advanced medicine, and whatever else I can get on
@@uttermostvids631 thats awesome brother. MARSOC was brand new when I was on my last year of duty. My chronology of schools was Infantry training, BRC, jump school, combatant dive school, remote sensor intel phase 1 then 2, then SERE.
@@jldouglas77 that's great man must be nice to get paid to learn
@@uttermostvids631 Back then we were the red headed step children of the special operations community but there's one thing we had going for us....unlimited opportunity to train. If you volunteered for a school, they'd send you. Hell I got a license for a 5 ton and dragon wagon just because they wanted someone with one. I got an offer to go to primary marksmanship instructor school because they wanted a PMI in the platoon. It was great. So do everything you can, take advantage of it and good luck to you. That knowledge is lifelong.
@@jldouglas77 that’s superb.
As a Recon soldier, would you say your amount of training and opportunities to deploy superseded say that of an equivalent Ranger Batt soldier in the Army, & since exiting the service so you still deploy these skills in your present job or what?
Outstanding video... glad the Marines trusted BRCC to follow along with the new training and to show it right.
...oh, and KUDOS on the kick ass intro.
Hell yeah! The best branch paired with the best coffee in my opinion!
Solid video, Hoorah Marine Snipers and Cadre. Proud to Support All of You.
Content & Production Quality is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You guys did a fantastic job on this mini-documentary. Great content.
We need part 2 already!
awesome episode, thank u guys.
Awesome training! Glad these Marines are on OUR side! :)
Outstanding little documentary Marty. I can't for for the next episode.
Imagine casually driving on the road and recon marines are a few meters away training in the bushes😂
I have an interesting story with our unit prepping (last minute training before Iraq) - we were training other units to work with in 2002 (I was attached to RCT-5 at the time, so other companies and battalions in 5th Marines and 1st MarDiv). We were doing gas drills (putting on masks, etc...), and a little live fire here and there. One unit at a time, we issued the order to go home. After wondering why some civilian vehicles were stopping - pulling off the road, and some of the drivers/passengers appeared troubled - we noticed that one particular unit is alarming the civilians with guns still facing outboard, gas masks still on... Somehow their Ops officer didn't get word to stand down while on civilian roads. Oops!
Would luv to see part three🔥🔥
Another great film informative amazingly camera work
Notice how the signs of these training grounds are changing. Before they used to be in Arabic and shit but now it’s in Asian languages like Korean(the only one I recognized). The enemy has changed boys focus up!!
🧐
Yeah they're all in korean.
@@koreanguy9 ahh ok thank you it’s cuz I saw some other sign and it didn’t look quite Korean but I guess I’m not Korean to decipher what’s Korean or not😂🤷🏾♂️
I noticed that immediately too
The US military has been in Korea and Japan since WW2, they know who America's enemies are
POG status proud to say 👏I was a safety Vic for a similar course involving snipers....no worries no snipers were harmed during the training event just 2 MTVRs came back deadline thats all.
Graduated from Quantico in 1989 , back when it was the BSC (Basic Sniper Course) Class 7 Tach 4. Great video , Semper Fi
Awesome Channel! Thanks!
My cat saw this video.
Now he's a TIGER.
When are they going to learn how to 360 no-scope?
Boi they teach you that in basic along with the cheat code for unlimited Sprint 😂
I dig it. Thanks for the video.
Quality content!
All the 3531s that got out being like damn wish I did that rather then mop the motor pool in the rain.
3:30 nearly broke my heart. The basis for marines is being a riflemen. I was never in the infantry side but taking away the scout sniper program from marines it’s basically like neutering us.
What is the difference between scout and recon sniping? Just curious.
Scout means you’re actively going to a predetermined area to confirm or not of terrain, key personal, weapons, enemy forces. You might encounter light resistance and typically you’ll be deployed ahead of the main fighting forces.
Recon means you’re going to a predetermined location and observing enemy activity. When safe to do so go and collect sensitive info. It does not mean you’ll get into a gun fight just observe. If a key personnel does show up it’s up to you to decide he if lives or die. No command decision is involved just a set of objectives you get to decide how to complete. The No command decision comes from minimizing radio chatter and being picked off by enemy force who maybe listening in, this also allows recon to be more flexible and independent.
@@Gerickmb As far as I can tell, the Marine infantry battalions lacked sufficient knowledge of what was in front of them. The scout-sniper did not provide them with the information. So, they will now have dedicated scout platoons of 4 - 6 man teams sneaking and peeking in front of the battalion. Think of it as the old TV series 'COMBAT' with Sgt. Saunders perpetually on patrol, looking for the Jerries.
The infantry battalions will have some Designated Marksmen to handle distances between 300 yards and 600 yards or so. Normally, they will act as regular infantry Marines but with access to specialized rifles. They will probably go through a 2 week DM course.
Excellent video
4 am I'm driving in the middle of fucking nowhere out to Stone Bay. Passed New River 10 minutes back and haven't seen shit. Headed out to Stone Bay for annual rifle qual. Nothing but darkness and pine trees.
I see movement at the tree line just beyond my headlights. A scout sniper bubba is running, not jogging, this dude is full stride with a map in one hand and (probably) a compass in the other. I'm 20 minutes from the turn to Stone Bay and that is at 55 mph with the windows down trying to stay awake. Dude in the tree line would be lo-righty-lo ing it for quite some time. That scout sniper program is no joke. I don't know what part of training bubba was going through but I imagine it was a night navigation exercise.
Snipers are a different breed. Mad respect. You don't even get considered for that program unless your shit is squared away and you are bad ass.
Can’t wait for part 2🔥🔥🔥
Amazing. Marine infantryman 97-2006. Before the wars, we wore flack jackets. After the buildings fell. Infantryman we're issued Oakley's and Protec armor plate. During SOI instructor's used moonlight scopes from Vietnam. Unreal. The technology is amazing. The training excellent. Very capable. Semper Fi
Great vid!
Outstanding job Devil Dogs!
Strange. I went through Marine Scout Sniper School and we NEVER shoot positioned right by the window. Always shoot from far in the room!
I think the dude at 12:39 is holding a shader for that same purpose. Maybe that was cut as being to "sensitive" or tactics they don't wanna show?
When they are maneuvering and not holding position I don’t think they’ll set up far within the room as he’s prolly just gonna let off a couple shots and move on to a different shooting position.
Same lol 1 Marine Raider Scout Sniper we ALWAYS shot from far lol Semper FI GYN SGT
I think this is more of an overwatch thing than trying to shoot from a concealed position.
I went to sniper school too, and we shot from every position except a handstand naked. So perhaps you have to take a shot and post up on a wall or a window as opposed to taking 10 years to set up your crap for an ideal hollywood shot. Shoot from every position you can in as many conditions and demands as you can muster. Thats all combative shooting training ever has been. Glad to see Recon doing what the basic sniper course failed to do.
This is what I wanted to be, a Marine Recon Sniper. But I was born with too many disabilities. My family has served this country since 1776.
This was a badass video
that last shot was sick
When that guy said I divide by two cuz I'm a fucking genius I felt that
Respect
Didn't really get the divide by 2 part, any explaination would be welcome?
@@threadingRobiin probably some sniper math equation
When the 1stSgt sees this, he's going to march you to the Barber Shop for a real haircut....
Lol, I was thinking "Look at all those medium/low reg haircuts!"
And did you notice all the hands in pockets? Not your Daddy's Corps, that's for sure. I just hope this training doesn't make them miss any CRT lectures.
@@thescrambler692 Truth, but as you know, lethality is better when focused...so I'm sure their 1stSgt took care of these young, wayward Marines.
Love u guys all sounds like my Uncle a sniper in 67 s2 scout in Nam brings me back.
Just ordered a print of the magazine before the premiere ended 🤘
Damn now I can’t laugh at the kids who want to be a “recon sniper”
USMC snipers went through their recon course and serve in recon capacities, and it's pretty much the same in every branch and every other country
@@InvisibleHotdog I'm aware
@@KlASELI then why'd you make the comment? 🤔
@@InvisibleHotdog Yes I am VERY aware that marine reconnaissance the MOS of 0321 reconnaissance marine, and 0317 scout sniper both perform the same missions being reconnaissance. I would like to remind you that these are two distinct MOS's and while they both perform the same missions aside from that they do different things. IF I REALLY HAD TO EXPLAIN THE FUCKING JOKE IS THAT KIDS COME INTO A RECRUITERS OFFICE AND ASK TO BE RECON OR A SCOUT SNIPER.
@@KlASELI but even before this course, snipers were serving in recon platoons. And recruiters gave Recon pipeline slots in contracts. I get that you were trying to treat it like "Marine SEAL" but it just didn't work.
Marty Skovlund and BRCC knock it out of the park again with this mini documentary!
Currently going to airborne school with The instructors SGT Broderick and SGT Neff
Amazing men honestly
This looks awesome.
Love to see the military innovating and not staying stagnant. we get stuck in our "winning" ways and it comes back to bite us. Great production as well, love the work (and coffee) you guys put out!
And, what was "won"?
Who IS "free"??
Ya better do your homework. Every citizen is Legally owned. Join the Actual world, my friend.
@@anotherone5926 you have a reading comprehension issue, "winning" (in quotes) means that is not the case (tongue-in-cheek really) and no where in my post did I say "free". But why sully a perfectly fine post that applauds good cinematography by a company that makes great coffee? Learn to enjoy things, you'll be happier and less troll like. 😚😄
@@oneonlyxram ... said the confused bafoon. What in hell are you babbling, professor? My English courses in college were fun, and easy, and way back when folks were not dumbed down. Your tongue must be stuck to your cheek, eh. Too funny.
I'm done with your goofiness. Got boring. I don't watch TV, so, thanks for the laughs.
@@anotherone5926 Hey bud, I am here if you need a hug!
@@oneonlyxram I've got that covered, but thanks. It seems you've projected ... but, hey, it's only a Comment. Short comments are a poor way to communicate clearly. Hence,, the readers often make presumptions, assumptions, and/or cling tightly to misperceptions of another commenters' intentions, expressions , actual meaning, mood, and even motives. It's all up in the air ...on the web... By design!
OK this shit is bad ass! they're shooting like when u practice quick draw with your pistol at a target just far enough away to arch it a little u know.. ah little feel good like a calvary man shooting his 6 shooter.
but their shooting hell of far distances popping um off like they're 30 feet away. man ..
that shit is wow..
Very, very smart new & better Marine training. Now you are thinking outside.the box Examine current schooling training, adapt to improve, revise as needed learn from your past, & go forward into the future. Semper fi!!
Aww yeah, now the Recon sniper class is legit
I can't believe they took out tanks & traditional artillery from the Marine Corps.
Shameful
@@BasedAurelius It's sad what all these pseudo-intellectuals in academia & activists circles are doing to our military. If our enemies have tanks & artillery, our Marines need them, too.
dont forget 2nd AAVs are gone now along with 0351s
@@mulisha0351 It's a shame. Our Marines still need these weapons because our enemies will strike when & where we are the weakest.
A lot of young guys in this video. They'll grow into top notch warriors.
Hard to believe I used to be that young. I look at these guys and I think damn that was me 25 years ago. But I remember the training I got and the professionalism that became my life and I know we are still in good hands.
Istimewa👍👍👍👍
The m110 is one of the most beautiful guns ever made. Was thinking about building a replica without the suppressor
Definitely love the weight taken off of the concealment/ghillie suit part. I watched the sniper training school and so many guys failed out for that when they're fighting in the middle east and it didn't really make any sense. Love the marine mentality: "oh you're gonna take away our elite sniper training? We'll just make recon do it."
God Bless every single one of these men... God only knows how invaluable our snipers are to the men on the ground kicking in doors, freeing hostages; the list continues! My son will learn the value of protecting his family, home, country and brothers to the left and right. Again, God Bless!
This is a pretty cool unit!
That looks great
Jack Welch said it best about leadership structure. It should be a pyramid. Unfortunately we now have a bell shaped force structure. There needs to be a significant reduction of senior level officers and REMFs. This will not happen until SHTF in extremis. This goes for the entire DOD and many other three letter agencies.
Your little war isn't going to get very far without plenty of REMFs. It takes ten or twelve REMFs to support ONE fighter.
@@michaellefort6128 You totally misunderstand the point and are taking it out of context. First, I don't have wars and assuredly don't want them. I have been there and done that. Second, REMF's and POG's have successfully managed to infiltrate and screw up almost every damn first tier organization they gain access to. This is why there are now "stress" cards in basic training. The DOD and government are re-pleat with examples of administrative types wasting billions of dollars and tons of man hours on catastrophically dumb shit. Third, nobody but you cares about my comment so relax and move along. Take a chill pill and enjoy a nice relaxing day secure in the knowledge you unburdened yourself and that I actually read your statement and responded.
When do you think it will change? I mean, bucket head officers have been sending enlisted to their needless deaths since the inception of the Corps, so what is this fairy tale you are spinning?
@@chillwill5080 well i got to witness a bit of it first hand during the early years of the GWOT. The National Guard and the Reserves were full of fatties and profile commandos. Now this is a fraction of the total Army force structure mind you. But it was interesting to watch them either leave early because they were worried about being deployed or get chaptered out because they were non-deployable. Most government agencies have a bunch of bloat and waste everywhere. That's because of base line budgeting. So that was a small example of what I am talking about. There are examples historically of the military having to get "lean" to win. The rise of General Grant during the Civil War is a great example. I don't really make a distinction between dumb officers and dumb NCO's because there are plenty of both. When I was in Iraq in 90/91 i just knew we would be back. Told my squad mates it would happen. I knew it was too damn easy at the time. But, hind sight is always 20/20. So i predict that if we get embroiled in a severe war that risks the sovereignty of the USA and we can't resolve it quickly. That, is when shit will get very real and very quick.
@@jondavidmcnabb I knew during the first Gulf "war" that we would be back too. Just too much money to be stolen over in that region. Our government has become something that it was never meant to be for sure. I left the military in 2015 after 30 years, I was beyond disgusted with what I witnessed well before then. Spent my last tour training officers at ROTC, watching the marginal and questionable candidates being commissioned simply to meet numbers by equally incompetent senior officers explained everything I had ever seen during service. What a disgrace.
Question: I'm enlisting next year. Would I be able to do this without having to be a recon marine?
No. The Marine Corps is extremely stingy with money & its "school seats". Generally, you only allowed to go to schools that specifically support the MOS (your military job) you work in. Example- While a member of an infantry battalion, if a Marine wants to join the Battalion's own STA platoon (Scout Sniper/"Surveillance & Target Acquisition") he will need to have top marks among his peers in his PFT, cutting scores, and numerous other Company-wide competitive exercises or skills. He will then likely have to compete among his company in a "screening" test for the right to represent his company at the STA platoon selection/try-out's. If he makes it through the try-out, he will be asked to join the platoon, then train with the platoon for potentially a year in order to be ready & "earn" his school seat at the Scout Sniper Course. Very few things are "given" in the Marine Corps. Getting the chance to go to a school that is not needed by your MOS is highly doubtful. The only Marines that I have seen get school's somewhat easily are those in the Reserves. I had a friend who would withdraw from his college courses to go to Ranger school, SERE, the Scout Sniper course, and to do JTF-6 when it was still a thing in the early 1990's.
Dont do it kid! Use your brains, youll end up training to shoot and kill us americans...just look at what our military HASNT DONE IN 2020! They are turning anti american and will be folded into the UN military...dont be fooled kid!
@@caspers.8846 the UN military? Damn dude, pass me that blunt
@@mrs8171 facts 100 spot on that was my pathway.. U.S.M.C. Ret.
@@InvisibleHotdog don't worry it's going to happen.
Awesome 👏!
Great video with a look at what really goes on when getting started. So ... where the ladies at ?? Thx.
It's nice to see Marine SS instructors and active Snipers training them. Keep it close Marines, Semper fi from an Old Dog. Seeing the traffic of I5 behind them brings back allot of memories..
Interesting...I went through the SS School in '74 which was very southeast Asia centric at that time. I grew up hunting and shooting and had lots of high powered rifle usage and ballistic training (My Dad was an old hunter and Engineer). The shooting part was very easy to me (I had a perfect score on qual day in boot), the hard part about Scout Sniper School for me, as a smallish guy of 5'8" 148 lbs was all the heavy long distance humping (Land Navigation). I reinjured an old ankle football injury and really had to do just like football and tape my ankle every day to protect it and allow me to not have to drop for medical. These guys have all had lots of heavy humping experience alreday being in Recon so it makes sense to mostly just concentrate more on the advanced skills of being a sniper.
whoa, badass!!
AWESOME!!!!
This is a better recruitment video then that cartoon crap the army produced a couple weeks ago
I 2nd this!
This seems more like an advanced DM school.
Dang when I was in I hated Camp Pendleton but now, looking at it . I miss it. You can the see the 5 and the ocean in the back ground. Good times
Thank you all, and God bless
As a marine vet. I always admired these SOF guys. Even on the basic physically fit level. These guys are animals. I know my capabilities. I never once quit during anything physical during my time in the marines. But I know I do not have what it takes physically to make it to these courses. Notice I said TO these courses. Not through. I wouldn't even qualify to even be accepted. That's how much of a fuckin animal these elite guys are
Sniper War is a documentary about the famous sniper Dejan Beric "Deki" from the DNR. czcams.com/video/o5FfbXPMcsk/video.html
Recon looks so chill, you'd be crucified in the regular infantry for wearing a sweatshirt or unblousing boots like that. One the many reasons I got the fuck out lol.
Back in the early 90s the Marines lost their mind when they saw the SEALS destroyed their cammies by moving the bottom pockets on their blouse to their sleeves.
@@fmfdocbotl4358 I always get some quality entertainment value from random anecdotes like this whenever it's someone describing the Corps being neurotic af about uniforms --*especially* cammies-- which I get to add to the mountain of other well-known examples that form part of my vast repository of fairly useless information.
Saya sangat menyukai semua vidio tentang sniper👍👍
I was flying out on deployment and my friend told me he did some black rifle coffee military lottery thing for the command we were supporting, he'd won and when we got there they had a ton of yalls coffee 😂 usually our support teams are hated by our hosts but yall started that one off on a positive note, so thanks 😂
Wonder if TECOM is actually going to give these guys credit for the course.
“Ammo deficiency, I don’t think so”- any US armed forces branch
@@Nynexx I can't wait to clean that shit😅
Back in 1991 Recon Marines were fucking crazy animals…. Oh how I admired them.
What type of optics do they use? What is the zoom range used for these kind of operations?
Not sure if anyone else noticed how the signs were in Chinese on their test field, makes you kinda wonder 🤔
Ha ha, for years we trained at 29 Palms ( So Cal desert) before Desert storm, Afgan, Iraq, way before, kinda like the same thing, hmmm 😁
It's Korean, not Chinese
This is sick, I would have loved an opportunity for something like this, I’m getting out in a couple months.
Love it 😍
thanks
Anyone else notice that the signs in the urban hides are all written in Korean? I wonder if they will be sent in for the old Kim regime.
Yeah I was wondering about that. I assumed it would be in Chinese but maybe it's acting as a stand-in to avoid the Chinese government getting pissed off
@@geologick I can speak chinese (i will speak some if you want me to for proof) and that was korean.
That town got changed from Arabic to Korean while I was in. Pretty sure it was around 2017 when they made the change.
@@geologick Yeah but if the war continues with Korea, it will with china. Remember, more Chinese fought in the Korean war than even Koreans.
So basically a SGM couldn’t pass the real course now he’s in leadership and wants the qualification
This is a pretty ignorant comment. You should read the Commandant's Force Design 2030 and it'll give you more insight on this.
And the the current Commandant, General Berger, was a prior reconnaissance Marine.
@Scott Pino - Way to make a baseless ignorant comment Champ. You should be proper proud of yourself.
Looks awesome. I’d give it a try. : )
Very nice... I would love to do this course...
If "they" are thinking about ditching the scout sniper course, what other shenanigans are "they" trying to pull? We need to take this example and apply it to a well armed and trained citizenry.
I try to use a majority of these skills every deer season in Michigan! If you haven't hunted state land during rifle season you wouldn't understand! Ghullie and camo paint is a must clean and scent free clothes extremely important!!
6:27 good to see that they’re teaching our Marines some basic arithmetic.
Only just seen this video. When will the military top brass learn?? There seems to be a tendency to undervalue sniper skill sets during peacetime. Then cost-conscious high level planners and decision makers start axing sniper training programmes. Then generations of accumulated skill and experience fades quickly away. Then when wars start some bright spark bean counter remembers how useful (and ultimately cost effective) a sniper pair actually is. Then there’s a delayed reaction as responsible professionals get things back on track and fully up to speed. In the UK back in the day if it hadn’t been for the continued emphasis on sniping kept up by the Royal Marines that skill set might’ve slipped away entirely post WW2. Undervalued, underrated but actually an invaluable and priceless battlefield asset. Snipers now, blessed with superb equipment and excellent training are taking that skill set to a whole new level. Any brass hat wanting to waste that professionalism should be used for target practice. Well done gents.
Thank you guys for taking the SHOT so I dont have too!!! 🙏🙏💯