I always thought the Bat-embargo was stupid but when the Harley Quinn movie came out, there was tons of people who couldn't wrap their heads around the BOP there weren't the same as the Arrowverse. Sadly there are lots of people who can't distinguish nuances.
It's a frustrating rule that had a little merit, and the creative workarounds sometimes yielded fresher results. Like how we got Batgirl first in "The Batman" forcing Bruce to consider letting his walls down and people into his life. He didn't take Dick under his wing until after Barbara had show her merit and even saved him a couple of times. Really shakes up the dynamic.
The new edit in the middle of this one with the twitter screenshot was highly amusing. Also what a great episode. It rather dickishly kills off a great character (Tommy Monaghan) without him getting even one appearance and it still manages to be amazing.
Another great episode with the duo Arrow and Canary, even if here they're more adversaries to the real protagonists of Question and Huntress. Amazingly this is not the last we see of Mandragora's son Edgar either, appearing in Batman Beyond having developed psychic powers and become a criminal as well. The apple[phenia] just couldn't get far enough away from the tree.
I'd honestly have preferred if Edgar had fallen far from the tree. Maybe look like he's his father, but actually be a helpful and upstanding member of the community who just happens to be intimidating and have a bit of gluttony as minor vice.
It’s always fascinating to see what limitations can breed. I mean, the MCU also focuses on what we’re otherwise minor, unknown heroes simply because Marvel lacked the film rights to Spider-Man, the X-Men, and the Fantastic Four for the longest time, and then how they burned through a lot of properties early on in TV shows so now they’re constantly sifting around for new things to adapt, leading to freaking Moon Knight and Werewolf By Night.
Great episode on so many levels: like a classic film noir. And your analysis was remarkable including your focus on the closure that Huntress achieved and how Question helped her. This episode shows again the brilliant story telling, story boarding, and voice directing that typified the whole run of the DC animated series starting from Batman on through the JLU. It is also cool that the series brought strong representation to Justice League members who had no powers (except for Black Canary's mutant cry, which in this case did not even work against the villain)! It is as if DC animated laid the groundwork, background, context, and motivations for its characters and stories in ways the live DC movies never have. As they go through a "re-boot" as if that is going to help . . . In fact, the WB-DCU TV Animation Series has a stronger parallel in its dramatic development with the Marvel Cinematic Universe than it does with DC's own weak live-action cinematic universe, which never took the time or discipline to do what its cartoons so masterfully accomplished. BTW, one serious issue with the Double Date episode despite all of its great aspects: Huntress's alternative after her epiphany of justice was to drop a palette of wide flange metal beams suspended at least fifty feet over the villain as an alternative to shooting him directly with small flechettes from her bow-gun? And he comes out of it no worse than if a bookshelf had tilted over on him? Seriously, that was an absurd ending to an otherwise great episode.
This episode was basically a spaghetti western called "Kid Vengeance" (starring Lee Van Cleef) adapted to the DCAU. That's not a negative... just sayin'.
It's hilarious that the Bat embargo prevented Batgirl from appearing in this episode, because I don't think Barbara was actually Batgirl in The Batman for a few seasons. Same with Robin actually.
Mark Hamil is and will always be the Joker Kevin Conroy (RIP) is and will always be Batman Tim Dailey (or George Newburn) is and will always be Superman Clancy Brown is and will always be Lex Luthor And Jefferey Combs is and will always be The Question
The two mobsters talking baking was a treat! Given what we see later, Huntress was right to employ maxim 37 thinking by firing so many bolts.... insofar as making she used adequate force, not that killing in cold blood is or was a good thing for her to do. The Question: groaning from most of the table "Oh, not that kook!" Flash "I'll admit he's wound a bit too tight" Batman. Or something close to that. Point is, it really says something when Bats thinks you need to dial back the paranoia and loner schtick. .... okay, you have some whack receipts, but assuming that's not photoshop, it's still a receipt. ... Question has aged like meat in milk in the Sahara. With all the crackpots bending over backwards to justify blatant criminals as heroes and patriots who'll topple the deep state because some anon online told them.... I did like this character, but all I can see now is a red baseball cap waitt9ing on a shelf. And I hear Ratchet from TFP. How I didn't hear The Question in TFP Ratchet is my question. "Are we dead yet?" Classic episode. Sometimes it is adaptation to adversity that yields the best results. Of course, it helps when you have a writer of Simone's talent.
Hands down one of my favorite episodes. Jeffery Combs' Question is beyond measure.
Great voice work in the whole series
Limitations can foster creativity. Arguably my favorite episode of the show
It's why I have no sympathy for the folks who claim they have to discard canon to tell a story.
@@boobah5643 Sometimes canon is not worth keeping. SOMEtimes.
I always thought the Bat-embargo was stupid but when the Harley Quinn movie came out, there was tons of people who couldn't wrap their heads around the BOP there weren't the same as the Arrowverse. Sadly there are lots of people who can't distinguish nuances.
It's a frustrating rule that had a little merit, and the creative workarounds sometimes yielded fresher results. Like how we got Batgirl first in "The Batman" forcing Bruce to consider letting his walls down and people into his life. He didn't take Dick under his wing until after Barbara had show her merit and even saved him a couple of times. Really shakes up the dynamic.
The new edit in the middle of this one with the twitter screenshot was highly amusing.
Also what a great episode. It rather dickishly kills off a great character (Tommy Monaghan) without him getting even one appearance and it still manages to be amazing.
This is one of my favorite episodes, mostly due to who the voice actors are (namely Amy Acker, Jeffrey Combs, and Morena Baccarin)
Every time Jeff Combs gets to be a good guy, good things happen.
He needed that.
Another great episode with the duo Arrow and Canary, even if here they're more adversaries to the real protagonists of Question and Huntress. Amazingly this is not the last we see of Mandragora's son Edgar either, appearing in Batman Beyond having developed psychic powers and become a criminal as well. The apple[phenia] just couldn't get far enough away from the tree.
I'd honestly have preferred if Edgar had fallen far from the tree. Maybe look like he's his father, but actually be a helpful and upstanding member of the community who just happens to be intimidating and have a bit of gluttony as minor vice.
@@bthsr7113 That's not easy when your daddy's a big-time mob boss. You end up learning all the wrong lessons.
The Huntress and the Question make a good team.
I wish she remained in the league
Damn Chuck, I bet that moment on Twitter in 2017 really made you super smug
An amazing episode. Gail is an incredible writer when she wants to be.
what do you mean wants to be, she is an incredible writer
Can't believe you didn't mention how Huntress's dad was Scarface from the movie "Scarface."
I didn’t know
The Gail Simone MLP joke is even funnier now, because she ended up actually writing an episode of the show after this review originally aired.
Really? Which episode?
@@wdcain1 Season 9, episode 13: "Between Dark and Dawn"
It’s always fascinating to see what limitations can breed. I mean, the MCU also focuses on what we’re otherwise minor, unknown heroes simply because Marvel lacked the film rights to Spider-Man, the X-Men, and the Fantastic Four for the longest time, and then how they burned through a lot of properties early on in TV shows so now they’re constantly sifting around for new things to adapt, leading to freaking Moon Knight and Werewolf By Night.
Great episode on so many levels: like a classic film noir. And your analysis was remarkable including your focus on the closure that Huntress achieved and how Question helped her. This episode shows again the brilliant story telling, story boarding, and voice directing that typified the whole run of the DC animated series starting from Batman on through the JLU. It is also cool that the series brought strong representation to Justice League members who had no powers (except for Black Canary's mutant cry, which in this case did not even work against the villain)!
It is as if DC animated laid the groundwork, background, context, and motivations for its characters and stories in ways the live DC movies never have. As they go through a "re-boot" as if that is going to help . . .
In fact, the WB-DCU TV Animation Series has a stronger parallel in its dramatic development with the Marvel Cinematic Universe than it does with DC's own weak live-action cinematic universe, which never took the time or discipline to do what its cartoons so masterfully accomplished.
BTW, one serious issue with the Double Date episode despite all of its great aspects: Huntress's alternative after her epiphany of justice was to drop a palette of wide flange metal beams suspended at least fifty feet over the villain as an alternative to shooting him directly with small flechettes from her bow-gun? And he comes out of it no worse than if a bookshelf had tilted over on him? Seriously, that was an absurd ending to an otherwise great episode.
Sfdebris continuing his streak of precognition by way of sarcasm.
4:37 I was not expecting that reference.
Still, the Bat Embargo was pretty ridiculous.
Ah yes, Gail Simone. One of the best comic writers out there and totally not actually secretly a bear, no sir!
I'm going to need some context.
A bear? Like, shits in the woods, eats honey and fish, hibernates in the winter bear?
Grizzly, panda, polar, Yogi?
@@mitchfletcher2386 The concensus seems to be brown bear.
This episode was basically a spaghetti western called "Kid Vengeance" (starring Lee Van Cleef) adapted to the DCAU. That's not a negative... just sayin'.
Best episode of Justice League.
It's hilarious that the Bat embargo prevented Batgirl from appearing in this episode, because I don't think Barbara was actually Batgirl in The Batman for a few seasons. Same with Robin actually.
I'm not sure how to feel about Robin becoming the Batgirl
@@Lemon_Inspector that’s not what he said
@@Galvatronover I'm sure *he* had strong feelings about it, one way or the other, and I don't think I want to know which.
@@Lemon_Inspector You need glasses. Also, there was a Robin who became Batgirl in the comics. Her name was Stephanie Brown.
Nah is more fox Mulder meet Alex Jones if he was rorschach ( yes i know rorschach was inspiration by the question and mr a )
O have you thaut of doing spawn the animated series
Or the new adventures of captain scarlet
I demand my little conspericy pony.
Mark Hamil is and will always be the Joker
Kevin Conroy (RIP) is and will always be Batman
Tim Dailey (or George Newburn) is and will always be Superman
Clancy Brown is and will always be Lex Luthor
And Jefferey Combs is and will always be The Question
The two mobsters talking baking was a treat!
Given what we see later, Huntress was right to employ maxim 37 thinking by firing so many bolts.... insofar as making she used adequate force, not that killing in cold blood is or was a good thing for her to do.
The Question:
groaning from most of the table
"Oh, not that kook!" Flash
"I'll admit he's wound a bit too tight" Batman.
Or something close to that. Point is, it really says something when Bats thinks you need to dial back the paranoia and loner schtick.
.... okay, you have some whack receipts, but assuming that's not photoshop, it's still a receipt.
... Question has aged like meat in milk in the Sahara. With all the crackpots bending over backwards to justify blatant criminals as heroes and patriots who'll topple the deep state because some anon online told them.... I did like this character, but all I can see now is a red baseball cap waitt9ing on a shelf.
And I hear Ratchet from TFP. How I didn't hear The Question in TFP Ratchet is my question.
"Are we dead yet?"
Classic episode. Sometimes it is adaptation to adversity that yields the best results. Of course, it helps when you have a writer of Simone's talent.