EJ's Rolling and Bracing 4 Phases of the Roll
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- This is the Meat and Potatoes of the roll. Here is where you learn to roll while sitting in front of your device... :)
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Thanks, Eric!! I'm 61 years old and have never rolled a kayak. I intend to be fairly proficient doing so before I'm 62.
Did you succeed?
I love it this was only posted a year ago but looks like 1985! Thanks Dan thanks Eric
Lol, that's what I thought. Why does it look like the 80 s?
Wait?! Isnt this from 80’s?!😃
I've got 8 yrs of college under my belt, and years of hands on training in manual labor gigs, and EJ is easily the BEST instructor I have ever heard. Extremely clear, smooth, and not missing pertinent details. Thanks for taking the time to upload these videos for us! Cheers from Vermont.
Agreed
Fantastic way of teaching, I think it has become clearer to me than ever. Now it's a matter of cheering up and practicing!! Thank you!!
Man EJ you make it look so easy. I just picked up a Zen 3.0 L. Can't wait to roll it. You guys say it's an easy boat to roll. Looking forward to it. I'm 69 years old.
How’d it go? Were you able to roll it?
@chrispaine2265 yes, second try I got it. Finally got some good weather and some time off too myself. My daughter helped me. Actually stood in the water by my boat. But first try I think I lifted my head to early,, so I did it again and bam!! Now I'm hittin' every roll. Even a few on the other side. Woohooo!!!
Super clear, perfectly explained. The best I ever saw. Thank you very much.
The key to rolling is the hip snap. I struggled with this for a long time, because while we always hear that we need to do the hip snap, there isn't much instruction on what exactly that is, what your hips and legs need to do to perform it. It wasn't until I was reading an article on the hip snap that I found out that it is bringing your low side knee up against the thigh brace while kicking your high side foot down on the foot brace. Once I read that, I finally was able to successfully perform my first roll.
True! The “Snap” is elusive, but when you think of high side/low side and think of getting the kayak upright, makes sense!
I avoid teaching the 'snap' or 'flick' (i.e. those terms) because it emphasises a 'hit' view of sudden motion, rather than it being a flexibility and posture issue that allows the boat to be rotated back beneath the body's center of mass.
Young males are all for the aggressive fast dynamics of 'flick/snap' but as you get older and the backache kicks in you think different. Similar for females, both young and old, using the right flexibility makes for much easier rolling.
There are plenty of small finesse aspects to making the roll that bit easier, with lots of 90% complete, 50% to go, steps to a great roll.
@@philipoakley5498 I hear you. I'm 42, overweight, and have a couple herniated disks.
@@waynefatguyinakayak7408 For the 'beginners' and those with low back mobility I start with "buttocks", that is simply sitting upright, and then shifting to left buttock, then right buttock and back, like sitting on a bar stool. You stay upright, but the boat shift (edges) beneath you, and _then_ you feel the knee engagement to balance the edge. This is a nice start to the smooth 'rocking' of the boat that others call a 'snap'. (See Scottish Paddler, iss 136, p28-29).
You can develop that buttock shift then to a focus on the thigh motion.
Then do T-rescues, keeping head low, that swaps the buttock/thigh as you change from your boat upside down and miles away from the rescue boat, and your boat being rotated underneath you as it closes the gap between boats due to that thigh-buttock-hip action and it pops your body up, with head following last. Practice that a lot until it's smooth and easy and the boat does the heavy lifting. Note, I end up with head facing the water, not the sky. And then try using your paddle rested on a large float or body board (as if a continuance of the T-rescue)
The hidden part is next, when you actually roll; your hip/shoulder posture, when setting up, is 180 degrees away from the final up & supported posture, so work through the shoulder-back-hip rotation stage while keeping head *at* water level (that big float again). Not forgetting all those regular back exercises (knee to the left, knees to the right, on your back with knees up in an A) that keep it flexible.
And compare YT videos to see what cheats each of the instructors is sneaking in to make it work for them;-)
Love this. I hadn't paddled for 18 years until recently. I used to be comfortable doing most things, but gave up for some reason. Watched this twice then went out having never been in a boat for nearly 2 decades and could still do it without any problem. Just do exactly what EJ says here.
Thanks mate, very clear, very precise and very encouraging.
By far the best techniques to learn the roll. Other videos put you upside down and in the ready position to start which made no sense. Your approach is what I was intuitively thinking would be better.
I was late to the game and you my friend helped me do something I only dreamed of 20 years ago. Thanks for your great tutorials and everything else you have done. Seeing how your kids have grown to become amazing paddlers and good people with a love of the sport speaks volumes of your ability as a teacher, father and mentor. Recently Team Jackson accepted a new member into your ranks. He is a "Heavenly" paddler that I had the honour to work with as he developed into a great paddler. I knew he was destined for greatness and glad to see that he is part of your family. Thanks for helping and inspiring me to achieve my own meager dreams and what you have provided for the paddling world. Perhaps one day I will have the chance to shake your hand and thank you in person.
This is one of the best tutorials I've seen.
Great video. I have just dusted off my slalom boat after not having paddled for 35 yrs. I used to compete in slalom (only in lower divisions) , but I was never taught to roll properly & I would fail more often than roll successfully. This video has highlighted a number of flaws in my technique & I can't wait to get out to put your teaching to practice. Thank you. I'm looking forward to catching up with your other videos too.
Thank you for this! A lot of videos that show cool rolls with strange paddles, but you go through super clear, step by step how to learn this critical technique. I just moved up from a recreational kayak (5 yrs in a pungo120) to a decent sea kayak (P&H160), and I want to be prepared for going out into the Hudson with a much tippier boat. I'm heading for the pool right after I finish this comment, and getting ready for home base! Thank you again!
You're a bloody legend Eric Jackson, just did my first roll in the pool. Did about 15 minutes yesterday and another 30 minutes today and I'm up. SWEEEEEET! I was tempted to rush through but I didn't. I did the paddle on the pool and some paddle in the water drills and then the roll was SO easy. Thanks heaps! I tipped to the right with my paddle in the ready position on the left, then got the paddle setup in the position you described, then really twisting my hips to the left and pushing my right knee to the left makes the hip flick work so well. THANKS!
Thank you!! I learned to roll from this video 😃
Fantastic instructions!
Such a great explanation! Eager to practice this
When did Saul Goodman start doing kayak videos?
Giving this a go today:)
Amazing ❤❤❤
killer video. thanks
Thank you
Hola , solo queria darte las gracias por este magnifico tutoria , llevaba tienpo trantando de aprender la tecnica de Rolling and Bracing sin haberlo conseguido , pero gracias a tus consejos y explicacion ha sido posible que aprendiese la tecnica ,. MUCHAS GRACIAS
With the hip snap leaning on your left, which knee are you driving up?
For less confusion:
1st pause the vid
2. Mute the sound
3. Set speed to x25 or x50
4. Just repeatedly watch the little part at 7:42
And remember, keep that knee down (less or no upward pressure toward the kayak's deck) which is 'the first knee to come up during the roll'. This is to keep weight point down and not counterworking the momentum.
Today my pool is tolerable enough for these four steps.
I've been patiently waiting.
I'm so excited.
In my mind, I already know how.
Thanks for the session
I am confuseda bout the blade 90 degree upright position in the phase 3 portion of the video. Please explain!
Is C to C roll better than the one taught here? I am a beginner just learning how to roll and I have been using your method to learn, but some people have been discouraging me from learning it, they say your method is hard on the shoulders and it exposes the face and head to obstacles such as rocks. They also say that the finish positions is unstable... I really like your teaching method and would like to be able to have some concrete answers to the concerns above. Thanks for all the help you provide!!
Hes a world champion kayaker. His advice is going to be better than anyone teaching you. Do what he says you won’t go wrong. But also do what you feel works for you if it’s successful
C2c roll is more effective for me in combat scenarios, but it is a very slow roll to do. The best roll is the one that gets you back up fastest. For some that is a sweep roll, others its a back deck roll(don't do those in shallow water because your face is exposed).
Brilliant thanks Eric, Going to try this for the first time tomorrow. Hoping the RAM will help when upside down.
Do i need to mirror the technique if i tip over to the opposite side?
I have the problem of being underwater and going to home base and then forgetting to not inhale water cause I just did a thing lol. I bought some nose plugs but do you have any tips for not inhaling water if I don’t have nose plugs in? It makes me panic and screws up my roll, and makes staying out on the water rather unpleasant.
Nose plugs? Get a nose clip and attach it to the chin strap of your helmet. Squeeze it onto your nostrils anytime you attempt anything in whitewater which may go wrong. This should stop you taking in water unnecessarily
I have been watching your videos to freshen up on the ideas since I paddled last (25+ years ago). I was proficient in my roll to either side and hand rolling. However we always rolled up almost kissing the front deck. The supposed advantage was protection of the face. I notice you always roll up in back. It offers no protection but then on the other hand in all my years of paddling contact with the bottom was very rare. If the water was that shallow, why get upside down ;-) Your thoughts?
The thing is, you are super protected in the home base position, especially if you tuck forward a little bit. He does finish the role on the back but by that point you are already right side up.
Is this C to C roll?
This is the "go from upside down to right side up roll". no name on it- because if you are repeating the same things--- just watch again.
Then there was Dane!
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God dammit Nigel. At least practice practice practice until you get it right!